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Its a requirement (to prove eligability) in some states apparently, and many others have tried to introduce it in the last few years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ty_legislation

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I tend to see things in black and white.

Obama gets asked to show BC - he shows, instantly any question is killed - just like that, great way to stop all that dead in the water. The alternative to fudge and divert and not do anything for a time only fuels speculation - that could have been avoided.

Same goes for Hilary and her health - you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see she's not firing on all eight, produce an affidavit doctors report -sorted - although I'm not so sure in her case that's possible, but same principle.

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House investigating latest Clinton email scandal as major news outlets start running with it. :erm:

Not looking great. Having looked through it myself, everything there points to Paul Combetta, the username, the dates, questions asked and the fact a 2 year inactive account was suddenly wiped when the story broke.

This guy made one mistake after the other. The last as stated before was that Reddit posts could be archived, which they were before he got the chance to strip it all.

If it can be proven without a doubt that it was him, he's then supplied evidence that Clinton attempted to tamper and delete emails whilst under Federal investigation. Thus committing what I believe would be a Federal offence.

Two corrupt numptys up, one of them wins. Nobody else wins.

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Well as I said I think history will disagree with you on that for the reasons I mentioned. Either way I think it's too early to make declarations on his legacy.

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It seems they attempted to introduce it with varying degrees of success in the wake of the Obama case. It wasn't a requirement before him.

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I don't think you should legitimatise and pander to these people conspiratorial prejudices or that Obama should have to submit to an additional test of his citizenship than that of other candidates. Eventually he did have to do it but it's shameful that it was brought to that and the people who forced it should be admonished.

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I would agree but didn't Obama himself bring his place of birth into question, he wrote some stuff before he came into politics indicating he was born in Kenya or some such place.

If that's true, surely it's not unreasonable to ask for some proof?

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Obama never wrote anything. It was an article from the 90's that included the error that he was born in Kenya. Something later corrected with statements indicating the people in charge had always assumed he was born in Hawaii and was a simple mistake. Given his father was a known figure and Kenyan whilst Obama was relatively low key, it's not an impossible mistake to make.

It then led to this, which people believe Clinton fueled when going head to head.


All in all the people that lit this fire achieved the reaction they wanted but failed to get the result they wanted with Obama serving 2 terms comfortably.

Funnily enough, part of the Clinton email scandals and their handover were set to reveal that they were fueling the Obama citizenship debate by junpstarting reporters with stories to circulate. Naturally as seen above, its clear someone deleted or tampered with those emails so we'll never know.

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Wasn't it e-mails at the state department we're talking about here? That's the issue with the whole thing. Nothing wrong with deleting campaign e-mails.

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Interestingly as an aside one of the Republican candidates in the Primaries, Ted Cruz, was born outside the United States and would likely have been fine to run had he got the nomination.

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Bring back Ronnie Raygun...

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Trump or Clinton will bring equal problems although in different area's and how those problems are handled will decide the legacy of that president. Pretty poor showing that these are the presidential candidates as neither are exactly shining lights of what's good and i predict whoever gets the job in the end will carry with them the stench of corruption.

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Yeah, sorry mixed up with the other email leaks showing Clinton's apparent issue with Obama (Powell leaks). But yeah Canadian born Cruz faced no opposition then and would seemingly be allowed to run but I bet the opposing side would have taken digs at it had he got the nomination much like Obama.

Its said they suspected for some time though that Clinton was essentially slagging him off, a white house admin having being 'concerned' about the nature of these emaills. I just wonder what Obama makes of Clinton in regards to all this nonsense and whether we'll see the Reddit uncovering blow up even further.

You're not a Clinton without a good old Scandal, you're not a Trump with out being a massive *hole.

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i agree ,they only did it because of his skin colour

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Yeah, they didn't wait long to give that away, claiming he was Muslim and would bring Sharia Law to the US.

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HOC orders Reddit to preserve 'Technician posts' for investigation.

What kind of damage can this cause to Clinton? I know its a federal offence but would she really be charged with anything? Could it be campaign ending, or is that a bit far?

https://www.rt.com/usa/360255-hillar...emails-reddit/

Also can Combetta's immunity now be reversed? Even if he was ordered to do it, he's still the button pusher, so should be facing it alongside her.

Looks like they're going to go through the old IP trail and see if they make a further link with Combetta. If he makes Reddiy posts like that I wonder what the odds on a VPN are.

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Doubt it. They would have to first prove he made the posts, then if he did he already has immunity and has exercise his right not to talk which would probably end the trail stone dead. Even then you would need to prove she ordered it and that is happened against e-mails relevant to the investigation.

Unless new evidence is uncovered it's currently a story that won't get anywhere.

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Meeting results

Clinton still ahead in polls, Trump needs this to blow up imo. There's surely nothing else she could faff up in the space of a month and a bit.

Some Trump humour though, NFSW comedy (South Park) but pretty relevant to Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1xiAXMqJIQ (A Parody of Trump's taking them all out swerve)