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Gavin78 19-08-2015 01:14

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I also got an email the other day as well so I'm in. damn though if it's wifi share them benefit claimants around my area are going to be wetting themselves downloading porn, films and anything else they can get their hands on

RainmakerRaw 19-08-2015 01:24

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794268)
I also got an email the other day as well so I'm in. damn though if it's wifi share them benefit claimants around my area are going to be wetting themselves downloading porn, films and anything else they can get their hands on

So all the benefits claimants, who would need to have their own VM subscription to qualify to use your hotspot, will be leaving their broadband-supplied homes and queuing up to pillage your free public hotspot after signing in with their VM credentials? OK. :p:

jalzoo 19-08-2015 04:24

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794268)
I also got an email the other day as well so I'm in. damn though if it's wifi share them benefit claimants around my area are going to be wetting themselves downloading porn, films and anything else they can get their hands on

I know your excited about the trial but that is pretty uncalled for. Not every person on benefits is a scrounger.

RainmakerRaw 19-08-2015 04:36

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Originally Posted by jalzoo (Post 35794281)
I know your excited about the trial but that is pretty uncalled for. Not every person on benefits is a scrounger.

Your pre-edit post (yay email notifications) raised a smile. ;)

Rexz 19-08-2015 11:04

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Would modem mode remove this wifi hotspot? How does it work? Is there anothe CM inside to receive a seperate signal?

Gavin78 19-08-2015 11:49

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I didn't say everyone i said in my area. But if you are going to pull me down least get your facts right. The row of flats opposite my road 1 down and 1 up a row of 10 of them are all occupied by benefit claimants who have been long term unemployed.

They are often fighting, police are often round windows getting put through. They get moved on but the next lot turn up. I mentioned a couple of empty ones when my brother wanted to move closer to me which is when i found out they were just for long term benefit claimants.

I could go on to be honest. Ive had to claim myself in the past so like i said in my post i said my area i didn't inc the whole of the uk

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Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw (Post 35794269)
So all the benefits claimants, who would need to have their own VM subscription to qualify to use your hotspot, will be leaving their broadband-supplied homes and queuing up to pillage your free public hotspot after signing in with their VM credentials? OK. :p:


Who knows lol it's a vm area lag free usually. If its the case you need to be a vm customer to use the hotspot i suppose we'll have to wait and see what it is. Unfortunately when the trial goes live there will be an NDA i assume so won't be able to say.

RainmakerRaw 19-08-2015 12:16

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794327)
If its the case you need to be a vm customer to use the hotspot i suppose we'll have to wait and see what it is. Unfortunately when the trial goes live there will be an NDA i assume so won't be able to say.

VM have already confirmed that's the case I believe. It was in one of the many articles posted recently. I'm looking forward to receiving the trial hardware! Hopefully it's an improvement on the usual bargain basement stuff.

Kushan 19-08-2015 13:23

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Originally Posted by Rexz (Post 35794319)
Would modem mode remove this wifi hotspot? How does it work? Is there anothe CM inside to receive a seperate signal?

Unconfirmed but I'm going to guess "no". You have to opt-out of the wifi hotspot via MyVM, which implies it's a change at the config level of the hub rather than modem/router level. In other words, I don't think modem mode is going away, if anything it could just mean the hotspot is stronger.

Gavin78 19-08-2015 13:53

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Could this also be something to do with easing pressure on the 4G network it was in the paper the other day that emergency services will be moving over to the 4G network and given preference to the network over regular 4G.

wouldn't surprise me if there was some deal struck to kick start all companies to use wifi sharing to take some pressure from the 4G network

Kushan 19-08-2015 14:51

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794345)
Could this also be something to do with easing pressure on the 4G network it was in the paper the other day that emergency services will be moving over to the 4G network and given preference to the network over regular 4G.

wouldn't surprise me if there was some deal struck to kick start all companies to use wifi sharing to take some pressure from the 4G network

Yes and no. Virgin mobile is an MVNO, they don't have their own infrastructure instead they essentially rent space on EE's network. This means every time someone sends an SMS, makes a call or downloads data on Virgin mobile, it costs Virgin money. By encouraging Virgin Mobile users to use wifi, Virgin doesn't have to pay EE as much money. No doubt that's the real business decision behind this.

David-T-Rex 19-08-2015 22:26

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794345)
Could this also be something to do with easing pressure on the 4G network it was in the paper the other day that emergency services will be moving over to the 4G network and given preference to the network over regular 4G.

wouldn't surprise me if there was some deal struck to kick start all companies to use wifi sharing to take some pressure from the 4G network

Thats not going to happen for a LONG time. EE are the only bidders... Airwave will be going for a while longer.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01..._onmishambles/

Stephen 19-08-2015 22:35

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794345)
Could this also be something to do with easing pressure on the 4G network it was in the paper the other day that emergency services will be moving over to the 4G network and given preference to the network over regular 4G.

wouldn't surprise me if there was some deal struck to kick start all companies to use wifi sharing to take some pressure from the 4G network

Emergency services already take priority on mobile networks.

qasdfdsaq 20-08-2015 12:21

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35794342)
Unconfirmed but I'm going to guess "no". You have to opt-out of the wifi hotspot via MyVM, which implies it's a change at the config level of the hub rather than modem/router level. In other words, I don't think modem mode is going away, if anything it could just mean the hotspot is stronger.

Since "modem mode" does not turn off the modem or the routing functionality of the router then it's quite possible it would work as normal. Though that might displease people who use modem mode to avoid the the Superhub's wireless.

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35794345)
Could this also be something to do with easing pressure on the 4G network it was in the paper the other day that emergency services will be moving over to the 4G network and given preference to the network over regular 4G.

VM don't have a 4G network.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35794419)
Emergency services already take priority on mobile networks.

Emergency services don't currently use normal mobile networks - not for priority/critical communications anyway. They have their own. The whole proposal is they share public networks in future.

Broken Hope 20-08-2015 13:32

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35794477)
Since "modem mode" does not turn off the modem or the routing functionality of the router then it's quite possible it would work as normal. Though that might displease people who use modem mode to avoid the the Superhub's wireless.

Really? Then why do they disable the other ports on the switch when you turn on modem mode?

Ignitionnet 20-08-2015 14:07

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Originally Posted by Broken Hope (Post 35794489)
Really? Then why do they disable the other ports on the switch when you turn on modem mode?

Modem mode is an emulation of a modem. The routing is still there it's just running in bridge mode. This is actually the case for all cable modems.

A conscious decision was made to have modem mode disable the additional switch ports. There is no reason for it to have to be this way, and if VM allowed multiple public IP addresses via their configuration it wouldn't be.


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