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Wittmann 22-03-2015 11:02

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35766508)

That's puzzling. Is your Superhub close to the TV? If so, are they plugged into the same mains extension lead?

No, my PC is at the other end of our through lounge, about 16 feet away.

The TV devices suggestion - same TV as with V+, but this never happened ever before.
The power saving has been set to OFF ever since I had the TiVo.

MalteseFalcon 22-03-2015 11:05

Re: TiVo
 
Ah. I assumed it was the TiVo and not the TV, sorry. No ideas then.

Wittmann 22-03-2015 11:18

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35766515)
Ah. I assumed it was the TiVo and not the TV, sorry. No ideas then.

I assume it is the TiVO since the problem only started to happen after the TiVo installation.

The set tends to be on a long time during the day and evening, as my wife is not well and the TV is all she has to brighten up her time.

devilincarnate 22-03-2015 12:01

Re: TiVo
 
Could there have been a power surge that shut everything down?

joglynne 22-03-2015 12:03

Re: TiVo
 
If I remember correctly when the V+ was first available quite a lot of people had problems using the remote. It took some convincing to accept that it was actually a problem between the remote signal and light bulbs which had never effected our original Sammy STB.

I realise that this did not happen with your V+ but you have added a new piece of equipment which maybe is picking up on a setting on the TV. So is it not possible that there is setting on your TV which the Tivo is being effected by as Spider says?

GrimUpNorth 22-03-2015 13:12

Re: TiVo
 
I'm enjoying this.

Cheers

Grim

spiderplant 22-03-2015 13:21

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wittmann (Post 35766513)
The TV devices suggestion - same TV as with V+, but this never happened ever before.

But it's happening now. IF the TiVo is doing this, CEC is probably responsible. So turn off CEC at the TV end, just to be sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wittmann (Post 35766513)
The power saving has been set to OFF ever since I had the TiVo.

Check it again to make sure the setting was saved.

Wittmann 22-03-2015 13:40

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35766520)
Could there have been a power surge that shut everything down?

I have no idea.

RichardCoulter 22-03-2015 19:46

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35766538)
I'm enjoying this.

Cheers

Grim

That's why you come on here isn't it.

GrimUpNorth 22-03-2015 20:08

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35766617)
That's why you come on here isn't it.

Question or statement?

If it's a question then yes. If it's a statement then you're being a bit presumptuous ;).

Maybe now's a good time for you to try the app you've just seen on Click.

Cheers

Grim

Wittmann 23-03-2015 09:49

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35766540)
But it's happening now. IF the TiVo is doing this, CEC is probably responsible. So turn off CEC at the TV end, just to be sure.

Check it again to make sure the setting was saved.

Power saving - I have checked it and it has been saved.

CEC - If I am wrong here Spider, nobody's perfect.

As I understand CEC, it is a function enabling the TiVo to control the TV according to the configurations made in the settings and remote. The TV becomes a part of the TiVo circuit - it is the visual arm of the set-up.

By disabling CEC either at the TV end or the TiVo end, this control ability is not possible. Therefore I would lose all kinds of facilities, including remote volume and mute controls, Standby control, going back to two remotes, Power Saving and Sleep, probably much more. My connections are HD.

I have looked at the TV menu and cannot see any means of disabling CEC. In fact I cannot see anything resembling CEC.

This loss of automated TiVo/TV control is not acceptable.

spiderplant 23-03-2015 10:07

Re: TiVo
 
TiVo doesn't use CEC to control mute and volume. The commands are sent directly from the remote to the TV by infra-red. So disabling CEC will have no detrimental effect.

Goodmans are unlikely call it CEC, but I wouldn't know what name they use. Do you still have the TV manual?

Wittmann 23-03-2015 10:13

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35766709)
TiVo doesn't use CEC to control mute and volume. The commands are sent directly from the remote to the TV by infra-red. So disabling CEC will have no detrimental effect.

Goodmans are unlikely call it CEC, but I wouldn't know what name they use. Do you still have the TV manual?

Appreciate the information about TiVo and CEC.

Spider, I think you are my only hope. I will go through the Goodmans menu and list any item that "may" be CEC in disguise and post them. Perhaps you can identify the culprit. Their menu has beaten me so far regarding CEC.

I am delighted with TiVo, but as well as acquiring a super Cable/TV facility, I seem to also have acquired a career.
Thanks Spider.

Stop It 23-03-2015 10:18

Re: TiVo
 
I'd be shocked if a Goodmans TV used CEC in all fairness.

Does the TV go into standby while using the TiVo remote or just at random? I fear we may be going down the wrong path here but if you could give us the exact model number of the TV I'll gladly see what it can and can't do and go from there.

Wittmann 23-03-2015 10:36

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop It (Post 35766712)
I'd be shocked if a Goodmans TV used CEC in all fairness.

Does the TV go into standby while using the TiVo remote or just at random? I fear we may be going down the wrong path here but if you could give us the exact model number of the TV I'll gladly see what it can and can't do and go from there.

The TV is put on Standby automatically purely at random. It happens suddenly while watching a program and I have to hit the remote Standby button to bring the screen back again. Can happen 3 times a day or go a couple of days with no problem.

My Goodmans TV model is :-
GTVL32W25HDF 32 inch LCD Monitor TV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35766709)
Goodmans are unlikely call it CEC, but I wouldn't know what name they use. Do you still have the TV manual?

Looking for anything that may be CEC, I have :-

The on screen menu gives :-
Video - nothing.
Audio - Surround modes = AVC.
Equaliser - Timing, Set-up - nothing else.
Preference - nothing.
Connectivity - Scart 1 = DTV, Scart 2 = TV.

It does not look as if my TV has a CEC control and certainly nothing that affects Standby..


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