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Kushan 23-01-2014 09:23

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35665009)
Care to elaborate?

I have no idea how many but I do know some have chosen BT or PlusNet because Sky's policy on Fibre BB.

Oh I'm sure some people have picked an alternative provider, I just meant that in the grand scheme of things, the vast majority of customers probably just don't care about using their own equipment. We, of course, are exceptions to that.

Martin_D 23-01-2014 09:46

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Hi,

Am looking for some help. I am looking at getting a second line installed which provider is the best for fttc.

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Ty :)

Mick Fisher 23-01-2014 18:21

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35665227)
I think Mick meant his equipment went off, as oppose to openreaches kit which is on a UPS

That's correct although I believe the exchange was affected as well.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35665241)
Oh I'm sure some people have picked an alternative provider, I just meant that in the grand scheme of things, the vast majority of customers probably just don't care about using their own equipment. We, of course, are exceptions to that.

Yes I see what you mean and you are probably correct.

Although with the increasing number of devices seeking an internet connection some people, who previously wouldn't have bothered, are becoming quite clued up on creating and running their own home networks.

It is at this juncture that the shortcomings (the 10/100 ports and indecipherable interface of the sky hub for example) of inferior ISP supplied devices become apparent and folks start to look for something better, only to find their ISP doesn't want to know and they have to jump through hoops or settle for a double nat solution.

Kushan 23-01-2014 18:42

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35665403)
Yes I see what you mean and you are probably correct.

Although with the increasing number of devices seeking an internet connection some people, who previously wouldn't have bothered, are becoming quite clued up on creating and running their own home networks.

It is at this juncture that the shortcomings (the 10/100 ports and indecipherable interface of the sky hub for example) of inferior ISP supplied devices become apparent and folks start to look for something better, only to find their ISP doesn't want to know and they have to jump through hoops or settle for a double nat solution.

I absolutely agree with this. It boggles my mind that the likes of Sky still aren't sending out equipment with gigabit ports. It's not like gigabit hasn't been standard on PC's and Laptops for over a decade now. Even the bloody superhub has gigabit ports and it came out nearly 3 years ago. Of course, one could argue that Virgin had to have gigabit if they wanted to roll out 100meg and higher and Sky doesn't, since 80Meg is about as high as it tops out, but it's still going to slow up the home network between devices.

Kabaal 23-01-2014 20:00

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35665415)
since 80Meg is about as high as it tops out, but it's still going to slow up the home network between devices.

I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a clue.. i wouldn't have thought that would clog up anything in the home network. They have 100mb/1GB throughput each i would have thought rather than sharing for example 100mb between 4 ports.

telfordcable 23-01-2014 20:52

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
BT Home Hub 5 is totally nightmare (worse ever VDSL modem wireless router)

1) you cannot see any full line stats eg: Noise Margin, Line Attenuation, Power, CRC Errors etc
2) the wifi on Home Hub 5 is totally useless (connected at 72.0Mbps link speed) out of 300Mbps on the 2.4GHz mode
3) the sync rate was 1.5Meg lower than my Netgear DGND3700v2 because the speed test was 1.5-2.5Meg less.
4) U cannot use think broadband (broadband quality monitor) because the HH5 doesn't have any ICMP pings setting.
5) This HH5 ping is awful high at 34ms compare to my Netgear router only had 15ms.
6) No ADSL setting (ADSL/ADSL2+/VDSL mode) it auto itself

Kushan 23-01-2014 21:02

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35665440)
I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a clue.. i wouldn't have thought that would clog up anything in the home network. They have 100mb/1GB throughput each i would have thought rather than sharing for example 100mb between 4 ports.

Not so much that it clogs it, more that if you want to transfer a file, it will take 10x as long.

qasdfdsaq 24-01-2014 01:06

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35665227)
I think Mick meant his equipment went off, as oppose to openreaches kit which is on a UPS

But then that's irrelevant to the service as it wouldn't be a service outage.

Nonetheless on BT neither my equipment nor the cabinet or exchange equipment went down during a power outage. My attainable line rate shot up from 88Mbps to 120-something Mbps though because everyone else's equipment went down.

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Most homes that I've visited "on the job" have had no wired devices connected to any of the ports at all.

blue166 24-01-2014 14:06

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
So how many meters are you guys from your FTTC?

qasdfdsaq 24-01-2014 15:18

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35664854)
Have you got an unlocked modem?

If so what's your stats?

Had.

http://qasdfdsaq.com/images/misc/lin...30226-1820.png

Those were from the last time my line resynced, yeah it stayed up for about 7 months between that and me disconnecting in September.

Mick Fisher 25-01-2014 18:15

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue166 (Post 35665610)
So how many meters are you guys from your FTTC?

As the crow flies about 70m but it goes underground to the other side of the road and then emerges opposite before going up and over via poles so I couldn't say for sure but would think the routing pushes it to a bit over 100m.

blue166 26-01-2014 21:54

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Can I ask if anyone else here is using the ASUS RT N66U with PPPoE and an Openreach modem? If so can I please have feedback with how you find it.

Also should the MTU be left at 1492?

Thanks,

craigj2k12 27-01-2014 00:54

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue166 (Post 35666229)
Also should the MTU be left at 1492?

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/MTU2.htm

adduxi 28-01-2014 21:15

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue166 (Post 35665610)
So how many meters are you guys from your FTTC?

About <30M directly, BUT ...... the line actually goes away from my house, up the road, around the corner to another smaller cab, back again past the main cab and then to the premises. I would guess it's well over 100M, but I've never done an accurate measurement.
I was surprised when I found out, as I thought it was much, much closer :(

Anyway, despite the distance, it's pretty much 65/18 most of the time.

telfordcable 04-02-2014 13:33

Re: (Advice) Thinking of leaving Virgin Media 120mb for BT Infinity up to 76mb
 
First of all, goodbye virgin media cable broadband as my 120/12 service will be disconnected on the 16th February after hand my notice in last month.

Got my FTTC available now and Plusnet had confirmed that BT Wholesale had accepted and commited installation date for 13th February for Unlimited Fibre 80/20. Can't wait to get rid of rubbish virgin media service. Since 2007 I been with virgin media, lots of downtime, high congestion in my area, fed up of stupid traffic management. Also, sick of greedy virgin kept increasing price.

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