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What do you mean by "the white thing is like an optical illusion" Gary?

Are you yourself seeing something by way of an "optical illusion" that nobody else might be seeing?

Do share, I'm sure there are people interested in what it is you (think) are seeing.

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I'll help you out a bit.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/09/55.jpg

Ignore the senile red shoes.

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Gary,

Those are his vestments, he is actually wearing them, it's not an optical illusion.

Many hundreds of thousands of the clergy have been wearing similar garments over the past few hundreds of years.

Hope that helps.

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never mind him what's that geezer next to him come as ???:)

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I did say it's like an optical illusion. I didn't say it was an optical illusion.

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A Blackpool stick of rock. :)

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I feel I must point out that there are a growing number of atheists whom I can only describe as extremist in the way they present their case,go after Christian institutions and Christian notables and seem to want to attribute all of society's ills to the influence of religion.

I certainly understand the term Nazi atheist.However invoking the term Nazi loses the argument straight off as it does when they are dragged into any debate..

I as an fairly laid back atheist certainly don't like extremist atheists anymore than I appreciate fanaticism in any of it's forms.;)

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I like the subtle humour.

However, in this instance I think it is the perfect time to show that those who do not believe in supernatural beings (I don't like to be categorised as an atheist), can have a higher moral attitude than the leader of the catholic church and simply turn the other cheek.

Just ignore him and he'll go away.

Let the catholics and christians enjoy their leaders visit.

I enjoy the fact that I am not as gullible, and easily fooled on a daily basis.

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Help me out again Gary. Which particular optical illusion that you have experienced is it "like"?

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[tongue in cheek]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/09/28.gif

[/tongue in cheek]

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I think this might be worthy of its own thread, but I'll put it here for now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11346001

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I don't know. like an optical illusion where a man dressed all in white looks like he's something that we find fascinating. when if you were to put a suit on him he wouldn't be so fascinating.

I describe it as an optical illusion because of the following reasons that I will break down for your benefit.

optical = eyes, to see, vision.
illusion = false mental image.

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That might be a disguise, a deception, an affectation ... any number of things. But not an optical illusion.

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Terror alert and arrests over pope's visit :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11346001

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Yes, I'd already gathered that.

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IMO you are talking total nonsense there! He is wearing white as its tradional dress within the Catholic church.

All the priests that were at the mass yesterday were also wearing white.

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Having listened to that speech in full, as it was made, I think the accent was on extremism rather than Nazism. He used that as it's an obvious example from his own personal experience. Believe me, I'm no fan of the office held by Joseph Ratzinger, but fair's fair, when it comes to Nazis he knows what he's talking about (and no, I'm not poking fun at his membership of the Hitler Youth, quite the opposite).

It so happens that Nazi extremism was fuelled by an extremist atheistic worldview. What would be more interesting would be an acknowledgement from Herr Ratzinger of the pain caused by Romish extremism, such as the Inquisition (whose successor organisation he was head of prior to being elected to the office of Bishop of Rome).