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Peoples thinking? knowing that you can't get drugs when you're dead?

I'm just saying you don't know that just because it didn't work once, that it won't work 45 years later.

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If the death penalty isn't a deterrent in the US, why should it be one here?

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I'm sure it's a deterrent to some. just not all. we aren't America.

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I will never understand why people have this assumption that if a murderer is jailed until he dies, who pays for him whilst he is serving time - US in taxes.

If a person commits murder in the States, is an almost certainty he will face the death penalty.

In this silly country, a murderer gets life, which l believe is 15 years, unless the judge says otherwise, WE pay for him to live in a life of Luxury, FREE, everything he/she wants gets, We should have the death penalty brought back to deal with killers - l would pull the plug.

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If people in America commit an offence that warrants the death penalty and its carried out, they will not commit the same offence again. I`m all for it if its proved beyond a Reasonable doubt.
In this country of ours, there is NO DETERRENT!!!!!!! People can do what they want without any fear on the whole of any loss of liberty or anything to make them think twice of the consequences of being caught.

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Not true, Arthur. The national average in the USA (well, in 2004) is that 2.5% of convicted murderers are on Death Row.

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Well abortion was illegal but women still had back street abortions.

Homosexuals were imprisoned for the act of homosexuality.

Children were caned in school.

Only married women were allowed to be proscribed the pill.

The Krays were torturing and murdering people.

Yep life was different alright...;)

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Okay, let's put it this way. How would you quantify 100% certain?

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Yep. completely different.
another thing was the chances of being caught we're very slim so the deterrent was ignored if you like.

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To add to that, the death penalty isn't law in every American state and for the amount of time some prisoners stay on death row, it might as well just be a life sentence. There are a number who've been on death row for decades.

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What the ...........?

And there is no way of knowing that it would either, so best left alone then really. :rolleyes:

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If you had the cane at school, it made you think twice about doing the same thing again Maggie!.
The krays mainly went after their own kind, they took care of the situation if a woman was beaten up or raped. I`m not saying they were angels but the east end was safer when they were around.
So called Back street abortions still happen today, but now, its called the morning after pill.
And "proscribed" is actually spelt prescribed. ;)

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That's what I said.

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They took the deterrent away, and it all went berserk :)

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But the complaint against the cane in school was it was the same few idiots who still got caned,again and again and again and again........it wasn't a complete deterrent..anymore than hanging was.You all avoided my mention of the Krays...they weren't scared of hanging, in fact they weren't scared of anyone.Their record on National service is a real eye opener.

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Oh the morning after pill is not back street abortions that's stretching it a great deal..and very emotive.

I already explained about how caning was only a deterrent for some of us..there were those that never learned.:rolleyes:

And The Krays were still murderers who weren't scared of being hung...it doesn't matter whom their victims were.Safer?Not really it was just certain crimes were less reported.In fact there was less news and it certainly wasn't available 24/7. Tv and Radio were shut down for most of the evening.Only two TV stations.So there was less concentrated reporting of the crimes taking place.
I very much doubt that Brady and Hindley were even thinking about being caught even less that they weren't going to hang..

And then there were still those who committed murder despite the chances of being caught, tried and hung.It may have deterred some but not all.

Proscribed,precsribed..not often I use the wrong word.;)

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I thought the complaint was that it was cruel and un PC.

They were too far up their own bums to be bothered.