Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34685994)

Good point Fugazi raised, VM can also learn a thing or two from ppl doing this sort of things, I know quite a few ways how vm can secure there existing system, but it's all about money.

I don;t class this as theiving, if something is in your house in this case a cable connection you got the right to do what ever you want regardless.

A theif is someone who breaks into your own house, steals things and then batty rapes you.

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34686004)

that is utter tosh and its also thief i before e except after c

it does not matter if you class it as thieving. The law is above you and that decides not you

Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34686014)

It's ntl/virgins' fault for not being able to secure their product.

Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34686014)

It's ntl/virgins' fault for not being able to secure their product.

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34686016)

so if I am pickpocketed its my fault for not having my wallet in my hand? its the shopkeepers fault for not having a mars bar locked away? Enuff we all have free will we choose if we are going to do good or do bad. Each and everyone of us makes the choice. Why lie about it and say its not theft? why try to make out the perpetrators are innocent they are not? It makes no difference to me if someone steals cable honestly I do not care I got more important things in my life going on. These guys are just peeing on my shoes and saying its raining

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34686016)

so if I am pickpocketed its my fault for not having my wallet in my hand? its the shopkeepers fault for not having a mars bar locked away? Enuff we all have free will we choose if we are going to do good or do bad. Each and everyone of us makes the choice. Why lie about it and say its not theft? why try to make out the perpetrators are innocent they are not? It makes no difference to me if someone steals cable honestly I do not care I got more important things in my life going on. These guys are just peeing on my shoes and saying its raining

Originally Posted by David F (Post 34686023)

Honestly I would pocket it but you will not see me anywhere on this forum profess to be sweetness and light.If I saw the person drop it I would tell them though

You do not find the cable tv signal (you see I know whats coming next ;)) you actively purchase steal or otherhow obtain equipment capable of decrypting a signal. You see you decrypt so you change the state in which you "find" it so I am sorry but your analogy falls at the first hurdle

Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34686025)

I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it.
I get another bike, I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it. Again I have to get another bike. I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it.

I get another... I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, but this time I use a good lock and chain to secure it to a lamp post, no ****er takes it. Lesson learned.

ntl/vm fail to secure their bike to the post over and over again! Knowing full well that someone will, given half a chance, take it. And they still fail to get a good lock and chain! No lesson learned.

Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34686025)

I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it.
I get another bike, I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it. Again I have to get another bike. I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it.

I get another... I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, but this time I use a good lock and chain to secure it to a lamp post, no ****er takes it. Lesson learned.

ntl/vm fail to secure their bike to the post over and over again! Knowing full well that someone will, given half a chance, take it. And they still fail to get a good lock and chain! No lesson learned.

Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34686030)

i thought it's the law you have to hand it in to the police station and if its not claimed in 3 mths then it becomes yours, if you pocket it then its theft. We all steal something one way or another.

However i do purchase the signal , i actually pay £25 a mth for phone,tv, bb, so I am not stealing the signal, its not that im not paying anything to vm.

anyway i only watch tv 3-2 hrs a day if that mostly im on the net or out. TV is there for the footy.

Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34686030)

i thought it's the law you have to hand it in to the police station and if its not claimed in 3 mths then it becomes yours, if you pocket it then its theft. We all steal something one way or another.

However i do purchase the signal , i actually pay £25 a mth for phone,tv, bb, so I am stealing the signal, its not that im not paying anything to vm.

anyway i only watch tv 3-2 hrs a day if that mostly im on the net or out. TV is there for the footy.

Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34686025)

I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it.
I get another bike, I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it. Again I have to get another bike. I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, someone takes it.

I get another... I go to the shop on my bike, I leave it outside the shop, but this time I use a good lock and chain to secure it to a lamp post, no ****er takes it. Lesson learned.

ntl/vm fail to secure their bike to the post over and over again! Knowing full well that someone will, given half a chance, take it. And they still fail to get a good lock and chain! No lesson learned.