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https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/...ws-understands

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Well Happy Birthday Bozza, an early retirement as a present? ;)

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but he didn't know it was a party :rofl:

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Interesting - Johnson refused eight times today in a TV interview to say whether a £12bn national insurance hike would go ahead as planned in April.

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You do know white people can be Muslim don't you and to right they get heard if it's called for

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I didn’t bring anything into it… your comment was all encompassing

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Probably because it wasn’t. :rolleyes:

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I came here to post this, but you beat me to it… :D

“It was on his birthday, there was birthday cake, M&S snacks, his partner got people together in a room to sing ‘happy birthday’ and eat snacks, but OB says let’s wait until Sue Gray’s report to find out if it was a birthday party”

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So what do you want him to do? The increase is the plan, but people are reacting against it. Would you prefer him to ignore those disagreements and press ahead or take time to consider the arguments and alternatives?

Whichever way he bends, it will never satisfy you.

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So what I’d they interrupted a meeting to do this? These people were his work colleagues and of course his wife. The whole thing is nonsense.

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what a surprise defending the underfendable again OB

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If it was only this party and Boris Johnson is lying about how long he is in there and that he didn't invite people to his flat afterwards - and Johnson lies all the time remember - then this one isn't as bad. Of course this isn't the only time, it happened time and time again.

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He' s been sacked for lying many times, he will be again, shortly.

Spare him no tears, he has a few pennies in the bank, and he ' got Brexit done' ( by lying) , making the rest of us poorer, which is the main thing..... Jolly japes for the old chap, onto the next jolly wheeze !

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I said before with the Friday Drinks (although that was a bit too much still) that if it's a bunch of people already working stopping for a quick cake/drink/food then I really don't think that's as big a moral failing as hosting an actual party with invites sent out.

The Christmas Party they had in 2020 and the May 2020 'bring your own Booze' parties are the real problem ones. The one on the eve of the Prince Philip funeral was poor as well. Wine Fridays wouldn't have been as bad if they hadn't gone to such effort to get a wine fridge and smuggle in wine in a suitcase because they knew it was dodgy.

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Thank God that Gordon Brown saw fit to get rid of the UK gold reserves so Boris couldn't get his hands on them.


Not that it matters, I'm just adding to the drivel on here :D

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1643060960

They didn’t "interrupt a meeting", they held the "meeting"* in the Cabinet Office to surprise him. As the article stated https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1643062212

*or "work birthday", as you’d probably call it…

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Loved Lulu Lytle’s comment So, uninvited, she wandered down unescorted three flights of stairs from decorating the flat at Number 11 Downing Street, walked along the corridors between No. 11 and No. 10, then gained access to the one of the most secure rooms in the country, the Cabinet Room, as requested?

So she wasn’t invited, just requested…

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Letter to a 7-year-old from Johnson.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1643064428

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/sta...217475/photo/1

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Anything new here :zzz:

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The party leader can have his cake and eat it. Many doubted this.

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Please, can everyone stop posting for a while? I am waiting on OB's posts and I don't want to miss any. Seriously, this is better than binge watching Netflix!


and, good night!

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Scotland Yard poised to announce it will launch a criminal investigation into eight out of seventeen reported 'Downing St parties' so says Cresida Dick, reported by The Telegraph.

Dame Cresida obviously been hitting up Boris for guidance on how to perform majestic U turns.

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Does this mean Sue Gray will have to suspend/not publish her inquiry, as it could prejudice the police investigation?

Handy…

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Could this be 'living with' the enquiry? perhaps?

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Evening Standard reports the following.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...=1#post-359103

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I wonder if Gray has discovered something else that warranted referring to the police? The line that they're in contact with the Met Police could be taken either way.

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I find it alarming that there are people that still defend Boris and in fact defend the whole Conservative party.
With the latest birthday celebrations news it more than ever important that Boris leaves. Immediately.


And I really think we could do with a genrral election. This country would run a lot better on a co-alition government in my opinion.
Neither the Conservatives or labour have got it right at the moment.

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Ooops. Mystic Old Boy strikes again!

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...ghani-12514080

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From the Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ties-f2tvj9vq6

Sue Gray works in the Cabinet Office…

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Sue Gray report will not be published until criminal investigation has concluded, Sky News understands
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...ghani-12514080

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Yeah, it's gonna help him get past it. Now they can say 'police investigation' and the worst of the anger will have gone by then.

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Are we soon to see a new record for "Taken into Considerations " come sentencing time? :D

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looks like downing street staff could get fixed penalty fines if found guilty, meanwhile Sue Gray report not happening.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1643109552
:D

Attachment 29582

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No doubt it will be brushed under the carpet.

That carpet certainly must have a lot of things underneath it by now!

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I wonder if Cummings has anticipated this course of events and will react accordingly? Maybe time for some leaks on those PPE contracts?

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This will work to Bojo's advantage if he is deemed to have broken no laws.

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It will work to his advantage, period. As Damien has explained, the new repost from Ministers will be "Wait until he police report is published." By the time it's published people's anger will have reduced and we'll be focused on something else like fuel bills and inflation.

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If Bozza doesn't get his collar felt then no need to release the report, I can see it coming. As the Met allowed it to go on under their watch they need to be seen to be doing someone or something and that someone will be a junior none of us have ever heard of (who will already be in place to take the fall in return for a nice civil service career in another department).

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you would have to look at the COVID Act (whatever it's called) said at the time. As there was "guidance" and "law" at the time. One legally mandated and one not, and the two were regularly conflated.

I certainly can't be arsed to look back but I'm sure skilled lawyers will be able to prove Boris did nothing illegal as the legislation was brought in on the hoof, not debated and was poorly written (as I recall)

So no comment until the police investigation is over (probably in about 3 months) by which time it may have all kicked off in Ukraine and no one will care.

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Even if he has, Fixed penalty notices issued for offences under coronavirus legislation are non-recordable, so whether an FPN is paid or contested, it will not be recorded on the Police National Computer. Local records may be held by the relevant force.

The media at the moment going on about criminality at No. 10, but as there will be no criminal record, any FPN, issued and paid by the recipient, it won’t be criminal, unless the fine isn’t paid, when anyone pays a fine, they are releasing themselves from criminal liability and subsequent prosecution.

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It’s also about ethics and leading by example.

If those who set the guidance and laws, and who were on the TV all time telling everyone to follow the guidance and laws, and also chastising in the media those who didn’t follow the guidelines and laws, are seen to be blatantly and repeatedly breaking the guidelines and laws with no comeback, when others did at often great personal emotional cost, why should anyone bother in the future?

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Which is actually one good thing to come out of it, as I don't think we'll ever see another lockdown now for that very reason. Every cloud and all that.

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I think the majority of the country don’t give a shit. The rules were unnecessary anyway, 17,372 people died of Covid, not with and yeah people do unfortunately die of Pneumonia, we certainly don’t lockdown the country and the economy to prevent the spread of Pneumonia. The first lockdown, may be the first few weeks worked but by week 4, 5 and 6 people were getting fed up being locked up, effectively under house arrest.

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I think they give a shit that's there's a lying, hypocritical, clown failing to run the country, and he is just having a laugh at our expense.

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Agreed. If some people want to be walked over, so be it. But the majority of the country have now seen Johnson for what he is. If you vote for a clown, should you really be surprised that he turns up to parties?

Don't know why you're going on about the fines. It's lying to Parliament that is the potential issue.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1643112883

It was just ten minutes with a cake…
it was just a few staff in the garden….
it was just a childcare bubble….
it was just wine and cheese…
it was just a Christmas quiz…
it was just a leaving party

it was just…

it was just…

it was just not what nearly everyone else was doing…

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Some do, and some dont. :sleep:

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I’m laughing at you..

But seriously….Yawn. Change the record. We know you Remainiacs don’t like him, I think I’ve said, he is not my favourite and I actually voted in the last poll that he should resign. But now, I really really don’t care.

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Nearly everyone else?

Utter rubbish, most people broke lockdown rules and that’s a fact.

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Because breaking Covid laws is not criminal.

P.S Politicians lie all the time. (Didn’t you know?) :rolleyes:

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More likely to be some do and most don't.

Lots of crap going on in the UK that people are more 'concerned' about, but those things aren't dragged up by the media every 5 minutes.

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Oh dear, is Boris in trouble?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...k-b978615.html

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If there are new developments, those stories are reported eg Ukraine, fuel bills, Covid restrictions etc.

There have been new developments with No 10 and its 17 parties for the last few weeks. If someone leaks a new revelation to ITV or The Telegraph, they won't sit on their hands as you may prefer but they'll crack on and publish it. If there were no parties, there would be nothing to publish.

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Again, “criminal investigation”, it’s lazy journalism. Or to make the story more sensational.

Yes, Cressida Dick stated an investigation has been opened, she didn’t go so far as to say it’s criminal, because it isn’t. Under Coronavirus legislation, breaches are not regarded as criminal, and breachers don’t get a criminal record.

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Change the record for god's sake, it's a witch hunt, apart from the loony left remainers, I don't think most people give a toss tbh.

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Source?

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My mates.:D

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1643115989

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1643115989

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Pretty sure 3 people ≠ "most people"… ;)

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Those arguing for the police to become involved have shot themselves in the foot. You've got to laugh!

There is no way that Boris will be prosecuted or fined as it is pretty clear from what we know that there is insufficient evidence to do so, and so this is even better than the Gray report.

:D:D:D

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Boris Johnson is willing to be interviewed by police investigating events in Downing Street and Whitehall for potential breaches of coronavirus regulations but does not believe he has broken the law, Downing Street has said.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-launc...vents-12524866

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Some people like to believe the discredited Cummings when it suits them, Andrew.

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Cummings is leading them by the nose.

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Nothing to do with the fact that it's his home, and in any case there were limits on the number of people you could see in your home.

The police may conclude that events were different from what some people imagine, which will show the the PM did not lie to Parliament.

This whole issue relates to whether these 'parties' were such, or whether they were work events, and also whether Boris Johnson was aware of the breaches of regulations.

People are confusing allegations with facts and so I'm relieved to hear the police are now involved to shut the people up who are baying for blood.

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The Boris-haters cannot see how they are being manipulated by the very person who was the victim of their hate not long ago.

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If he's got the evidence it doesn't matter what people think of him.

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It's like the episode of Yes Prime Minister that was too fanciful to broadcast. The met investigation could well be the get out of jail free card that Bojo was praying for.

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He certainly seemed a bit perkier at PMQs last Wednesday than he had done in that Beth Rigby interview just the day before. Maybe his lawyers had said the Met investigation was highly likely which would buy him more time.

However, Peston bad thinks it's net bad for the Conservatives. I suspect it's net bad for the Conservatives but net good for Johnson. Here's an extract from Peston
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-25/...-boris-johnson

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Peston seems quite clear.

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https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/sta...72416711045123

The Met Police have no objection to the report being published. Looks like the Government is simply deciding it can wait.

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Hopefully it will get raised in PMQs.

But maybe the fact that Johnson didn't tell his ministerial colleagues about the Met investigation at this morning's meeting might be a juicier question to pose.

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I'm sure sir wet flannel pizza party will ask all the wrong questions.

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What do you think the right questions the Opposition should be asking the PM tomorrow are?

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62% of a 3559 people survey think the PM should resign

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics.../01/25/961e4/1

A majority for that view across all survey demographics except just Conservative voters.

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What are we doing about the Russia situation.

Are our gas supplies under threat

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The first one is unlikely to be needed as the PM will give a statement to the house. I suggest the second is likely but if Johnson swerves questions about publishing the Grey report then Starmer may run out of questions.

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The other matter is now in the hands of the police it would be improper to comment on it.

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The key thing that can happen and is being pushed for is to ensure that the full Sue Gray report is released and not an executive summary controlled by the PM.

The Met has already said they have no issue in that happening - even if then questions of any illegality has to be reserved for the Met inquiries.

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The Police are happy for the report to be published so to ask why the government is holding it up is a logical question.

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The police inquiry must take president over the internal one, It would be wrong to undermine the police report with it.

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If the Police thought it would undermine the inquiry they would have said so and request it not be released.

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That’s right, and any further questions from Starmer can be answered with a simple ‘Inrefer the art Hon gentleman to my previous answer. Should be done and dusted in no time!

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And what if the two enquiries come to different conclusions, which one do we accept.

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The PM is not holding up the inquiry. The date of publication of the findings of fact is up to the investigation team.

Due to the drip, drip tactics of Cummings and other wreckers, the inquiry might not now be completed for some weeks.

It’s time for these people to put up or shut up.

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Exactly.

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The Gray report is looking to establish the facts, whereas the police are looking at whether any laws were broken.

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eport-26046517

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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...29913387933697

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Fully expecting lots of tears and shouts of 'cover up' when the police report comes out as "nothing to see here, move along" ;)

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Sue Gray report going to tell us what we already know. That there were more than a few parties in Downing Street.

Got news for the Remainiacs. If Boris has to go. It’s not going to stop Brexit or reverse it, as the silly old prick, Michael Heseltine alluded to this morning on Sky News. :rolleyes:

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Not heard of that nutter for a while, honestly thought he was dead. Just goes to show how far down Sky News will go to get views/comments that reflect their position :D

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I can't see that being a widely shared view about trying to reverse Brexit. You can't stop something that's done either.

Also how can you have 'Remainiacs' when we've left?

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it not about Brexit at all it about him making rules for everyone and none for him and all his lies about it he thinks he above the law

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welcome to the world of Politics and Big Business :p:

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Spot on Ben. No large UK political party has rejoin in their manifesto.

It's interesting that on this forum, Leave voters like Chris and Seph are at the head of the queue in demanding Johnson does the decent thing and resign, in order to increase the Conservatives' electoral chances in 2024.

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it not big Business that gonna remove him it his own MP's

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I was simply pointing out that Politicians and Businesses are well known to tell lies, and often get away with it

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Good question.

In my view - A Remainiac is someone like Heseltine, Lord Adonis who think Brexit is reversible when and if Boris resigns. They have pretty much said so.

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We're all remainers now, as in we remain outside the eu

Speaking of unpopular views Mark Jennkison said earlier "the Labour Party was in cahoots to bring down the democratically elected PM" :spin: what a berk, his constituents deserve better

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They'd be mental to go near it full stop

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Do people think that when Johnson resigns, he will also resign as an MP or will he remain as an MP until the 2024 election?

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i think he resign as a MP as well but we will see