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Itshim 19-07-2021 19:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36086896)
Used up 50/50 and Ask The Audience then? ;)

Thanks.

Love it:D

epsilon 19-07-2021 19:33

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36086893)
Am I right in thinking QVC Extra (when launch) will get EPG Channel 743?

Yes, where else would they put it? :p:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36086896)
Used up 50/50 and Ask The Audience then? ;)

Thanks.

I asked Jeremy but he suggested Amazon Prime Video. Gosh! these streamer types have one track minds. :D

Media Boy UK 19-07-2021 20:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon via DS Forum (Post 36086904)
the serial number issued to QVC Extra had left a gap for a further 10 channels to be added, which is enough for the Eurosport channels plus a couple more.

As you say Virgin Media has 11 new serial numbers has been issued.

But with the Eurosport Top up channels and QVC Extra that 9 Channels.

So any of the following can happen to the two unknown channels:

A) Nothing.
B) Al Jazeera English HD and Al Jazeera HD (On new serial numbers)

C) BBC Two Northern Ireland (UK Wide) and BBC Two Wales (UK Wide)
D) Heart 90s and Heart Dance

E1) Craft Extra and Craft Extra
E2) Create & Craft HD and Ideal World HD (On new serial numbers)

F) (Two new Adults on demand channels)
G) Nick Jr +1 and Nick Jr. HD (On new serial number for Nick Jr. HD)

H) Pick +1 and Sky One +1
I) Boomerang HD and CNN International HD (On new serial numbers)

Or two from any of the following:

-Virgin Radio UK
-B4U Plus
-MUTV HD
-That's TV Gold
-POP Max
-CNBC HD
-Gemporia Craft

epsilon 19-07-2021 21:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36086920)
As you say Virgin Media has 11 new serial numbers has been issued.

But with the Eurosport Top up channels and QVC Extra that 9 Channels.

So any of the following can happen to the two unknown channels:

A) Nothing.
B) Al Jazeera English HD and Al Jazeera HD (On new serial numbers)

C) BBC Two Northern Ireland (UK Wide) and BBC Two Wales (UK Wide)
D) Heart 90s and Heart Dance

E1) Craft Extra and Craft Extra
E2) Create & Craft HD and Ideal World HD (On new serial numbers)

F) (Two new Adults on demand channels)
G) Nick Jr +1 and Nick Jr. HD (On new serial number for Nick Jr. HD)

H) Pick +1 and Sky One +1
I) Boomerang HD and CNN International HD (On new serial numbers)

Or two from any of the following:

-Virgin Radio UK
-B4U Plus
-MUTV HD
-That's TV Gold
-POP Max
-CNBC HD
-Gemporia Craft

As I understand it, they don't always use every number, so don't read too much into it. That was part of the speculation at the weekend, there was a large gap but Virgin don't always fill the gaps. It was also said that sometimes gaps can be there for months before any channels appear with the serial numbers, so it wasn't a guarantee that numbers were reserved for the Eurosport channels. The Eurosport channels then appeared with serial numbers from the gap so, this time, the speculation was right.

There are lots gaps in the sequence, probably more gaps than there are channels available to fill them. Virgin sometimes backfill as they did when the extra ITV HD regions were added but most of the gaps don't get filled at all.

As for Virgin Radio UK. Will Virgin ever add more radio stations? The new packages don't list radio stations and rely on the Radioline app.

RichardCoulter 19-07-2021 21:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Another reason why I wouldn't want the 360 as I record a lot of radio.

Media Boy UK 20-07-2021 10:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36086843)
But my TiVo says BBC Red Button HD is staying broadcast after Thursday.

So I think the following will happen:

NOW > (Was)
Eurosport UHD > (BBC Red Button 2)
Eurosport 3 HD > On CO75
Eurosport 4 HD > On CO75
Eurosport 5 HD > (BBC Red Button 3)
Eurosport 6 HD > (BBC Red Button 4)
Eurosport 7 HD > On CO64
Eurosport 8 HD > On CO64
Eurosport 9 HD > (BBC Red Button 5)

Update:

Eurosport 5 HD tests has appeared today on CO75.
Eurosport 6 HD tests has appeared today on CO75.
Eurosport 9 HD tests has appeared today on CO64.

Also Virgin Media are now testing with Video.

RobboEdin 20-07-2021 10:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086926)
Another reason why I wouldn't want the 360 as I record a lot of radio.

You’ll finally have no reason to stay. I wonder if any other supplier allows recording of radio?

RichardCoulter 20-07-2021 10:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36086972)
You’ll finally have no reason to stay. I wonder if any other supplier allows recording of radio?

I'm sure there will be.

Media Boy UK 20-07-2021 10:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086973)
I'm sure there will be.

I think some Freeview HD boxes do.

But you can only get the now and next epg on older Sky Boxes.

RichardCoulter 20-07-2021 13:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36086974)
I think some Freeview HD boxes do.

But you can only get the now and next epg on older Sky Boxes.

Thanks. If I don't move to Sky i'll probably use Freesat & Freeview with streaming services as and when required.

Apparently, radio can only be recorded on Sky Q via manual recordings so, even if I move to Sky, I might record radio separately via Freeview.

Anyone know if radio can be recorded on Freesat? If not, I'm sure a generic satellite receiver will suffice.

Legendkiller2k 20-07-2021 13:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086989)
Thanks. If I don't move to Sky i'll probably use Freesat & Freeview with streaming services as and when required.

Apparently, radio can only be recorded on Sky Q via manual recordings so, even if I move to Sky, I might record radio separately via Freeview.

Anyone know if radio can be recorded on Freesat? If not, I'm sure a generic satellite receiver will suffice.

If you get a none freesat sattelite box then you can record rafdio, as it's none freesat you might want to spend a bit of time on set up at organizing your channels.

Raider999 20-07-2021 13:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086989)
Thanks. If I don't move to Sky i'll probably use Freesat & Freeview with streaming services as and when required.

Apparently, radio can only be recorded on Sky Q via manual recordings so, even if I move to Sky, I might record radio separately via Freeview.

Anyone know if radio can be recorded on Freesat? If not, I'm sure a generic satellite receiver will suffice.


On skyQ You cannot record tv using manual recordings, so I cannot see being able to record radio in that manner.

RichardCoulter 20-07-2021 14:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36086995)
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If you get a none freesat sattelite box then you can record rafdio, as it's none freesat you might want to spend a bit of time on set up at organizing your channels.

Thank you.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36086999)
On skyQ You cannot record tv using manual recordings, so I cannot see being able to record radio in that manner.

Really? I never knew that about Sky Q, what a step backwards!

ozsat 20-07-2021 14:34

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
You can record radio on SkyQ - but there doesn't seem to be any useful series links.

Also users record that recordings on some channels seem to keep dropping out of the scheduled list - but that is a problem with the provided listings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36086999)
On skyQ You cannot record tv using manual recordings, so I cannot see being able to record radio in that manner.


DECKAS 20-07-2021 16:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086989)
Thanks. If I don't move to Sky i'll probably use Freesat & Freeview with streaming services as and when required.

Apparently, radio can only be recorded on Sky Q via manual recordings so, even if I move to Sky, I might record radio separately via Freeview.

Anyone know if radio can be recorded on Freesat? If not, I'm sure a generic satellite receiver will suffice.

I record Planet Rock on a Humax HDR 1100

Media Boy UK 20-07-2021 16:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36086636)
New Channel set to launch on Virgin Media?

Virgin Media UK has started to play about with "Live Events" old slot on CO01.

As of July 17th the DBR Video Capture picture is showing two Purple and Black lines but is still in MPEG2 Mode.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

Information as seen by Media Boy on July 17th at 21:05 (Some info maybe out of date).

Something is in the wind as Live Events Channel on CO01 slot 26 has been playing up since about 3.15am last night.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

About time to as Live Events on V+ Boxes was axe by Virgin Media UK by November 2019.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...2&postcount=52

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Guardian: BBC Three’s return to broadcast TV faces delay amid concerns from rivals

The BBC’s plan to bring back BBC Three as a standalone television channel could be delayed, following concerns that the proposal might damage commercial rivals.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ns-from-rivals

Media Boy UK 20-07-2021 21:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36086845)
Yes, there was a rumour about a UHF channel being added when Virgin changed the sid number of BBC Red Button 2 from 1102 to 1107, over the weekend, without changing the numbers of the other red button services. The speculation was that, as it was only creating space for a single service, it would be for a UHF channel. The service names appearing today confirmed this. Another timing difference, digitalbitrate hasn't updated Red Button 2's sid number yet.

BBC Red Button 2 has been rename Eurosport UHD tonight by Virgin Media.

epsilon 21-07-2021 02:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087080)
BBC Red Button 2 has been rename Eurosport UHD tonight by Virgin Media.

Strictly speaking, Virgin moved BBC Red Button 2 last weekend. Digitalbitrate holds onto the old information for a while to show the end date for removed services and that is all you were seeing there. As soon as a new service is given the old sid number, digitalbitrate can no longer show the removal date for the old one.

It's good to see that the Eurosport pop-up channels are now on the actual EPG.

Media Boy UK 21-07-2021 23:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Media Boy Sources says Sky are going to stop providing their channels to other providers in the future, Comcast want Sky channels exclusive to Sky and Now.

ScottishSteve 22-07-2021 00:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087176)
Media Boy Sources says Sky are going to stop providing their channels to other providers in the future, Comcast want Sky channels exclusive to Sky and Now.

Although possible as it is their channels are they really going to do that and miss advertising a subscription revenue from millions of households?

Not to mention their move of Sky Arts to Freeview.

Martin_D 22-07-2021 00:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087176)
Media Boy Sources says Sky are going to stop providing their channels to other providers in the future, Comcast want Sky channels exclusive to Sky and Now.

That really would not surprise me it’s Comcast we’re talking about

RichardCoulter 22-07-2021 00:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087179)
Although possible as it is their channels are they really going to do that and miss advertising a subscription revenue from millions of households?

Not to mention their move of Sky Arts to Freeview.

They lost a lot when Sky basic channels were removed from VM. Not to say it couldn't happen though if they think they will be able to mop up the customers of competitors

It won't affect BT and some others who now provide TV via Now TV anyway. Maybe VM will simply become a Now TV reseller too?

OLD BOY 22-07-2021 09:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36087179)
Although possible as it is their channels are they really going to do that and miss advertising a subscription revenue from millions of households?

Not to mention their move of Sky Arts to Freeview.

They will bring in the money via streaming instead. I am sure they will be quite happy to welcome Virgin customers to their own platforms, whether it's satellite or streaming.

johnasimmons 22-07-2021 09:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087176)
Media Boy Sources says Sky are going to stop providing their channels to other providers in the future, Comcast want Sky channels exclusive to Sky and Now.

It will probably see the emergence of the NOW app on VM

OLD BOY 22-07-2021 09:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36087198)
It will probably see the emergence of the NOW app on VM

At least Virgin viewers would gain access to Sky Atlantic through their boxes. At last.

johnasimmons 22-07-2021 09:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087200)
At least Virgin viewers would gain access to Sky Atlantic through their boxes. At last.

I've had a NOW TV box (recently had to replace it with a NOW tv stick) for 7+ years just to get Sky Atlantic - never had any problems with it but a NOW app on VM would be good!

Legendkiller2k 22-07-2021 12:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087181)
They lost a lot when Sky basic channels were removed from VM. Not to say it couldn't happen though if they think they will be able to mop up the customers of competitors

It won't affect BT and some others who now provide TV via Now TV anyway. Maybe VM will simply become a Now TV reseller too?

Tbf back then NOW didn't exist, it'll be a different ball game this time around especially with the rumoured SKYQ online service too.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087200)
At least Virgin viewers would gain access to Sky Atlantic through their boxes. At last.

Imho i think VMs tv days may be numbered, they will concentrate more on the broadband they're already testing 3gbs speeds.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36087202)
I've had a NOW TV box (recently had to replace it with a NOW tv stick) for 7+ years just to get Sky Atlantic - never had any problems with it but a NOW app on VM would be good!

Get a fire tv stick if you can NOWTV is on them now and you get access to more apps including plex which is great if you have stuff you purchased on a computer or even home videos etc you can view on your tv without need to run leads across.

Raider999 22-07-2021 13:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087227)
Tbf back then NOW didn't exist, it'll be a different ball game this time around especially with the rumoured SKYQ online service too.

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Imho i think VMs tv days may be numbered, they will concentrate more on the broadband they're already testing 3gbs speeds.

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Get a fire tv stick if you can NOWTV is on them now and you get access to more apps including plex which is great if you have stuff you purchased on a computer or even home videos etc you can view on your tv without need to run leads across.


SkyQ online service has been rumoured for years, very unlikely to happen at all according to SkyQ forum.

heavyside 22-07-2021 13:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
IIRC Virgin Media is currently testing a service to bring many streaming services together under a single umbrella for its subscribers.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...t-service.html

OLD BOY 22-07-2021 13:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36087236)
IIRC Virgin Media is currently testing a service to bring many streaming services together under a single umbrella for its subscribers.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...t-service.html

Yes, for broadband only customers, at least initially.

Legendkiller2k 22-07-2021 15:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36087233)
SkyQ online service has been rumoured for years, very unlikely to happen at all according to SkyQ forum.

It's happening documents are there it's just a matter of when it's happening, it's certainly being tested in house.
But then again this is Comcast we're talking about who tend to scrap good ideas lol.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36087236)
IIRC Virgin Media is currently testing a service to bring many streaming services together under a single umbrella for its subscribers.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...t-service.html

Yeah some of you might laugh and say "Legendkiller has lost his marbles the heat is getting to him." but one to watch is Pluto tv, especially now Viacom own them.

Media Boy UK 22-07-2021 18:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087247)
It's happening documents are there it's just a matter of when it's happening, it's certainly being tested in house.
But then again this is Comcast we're talking about who tend to scrap good ideas lol.

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Yeah some of you might laugh and say "Legendkiller has lost his marbles the heat is getting to him." but one to watch is Pluto tv, especially now Viacom own them.

Don't you mean ViacomCBS?

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Comcast to buy ViacomCBS?

Quote:

Those initial meetings paved the way to more wide-ranging conversations about other ways the two media companies might work together — talks that sources say could lead to some combination of Comcast’s NBCUniversal unit and ViacomCBS. No formal offers have been made.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnchm...h=757fbcc11056

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Missing Eurosport UHD on Virgin UK Channel 523 - not on TiVo boxes

Try this:

Home > Help & Settings > Help > TV Care > I'm missing some channels, and give it perhaps 15 minutes to do the necessary update.

Sources: Virgin Media Forum and japitts

Legendkiller2k 22-07-2021 18:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087260)
Don't you mean ViacomCBS?

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Comcast to buy ViacomCBS?



https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnchm...h=757fbcc11056

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Missing Eurosport UHD on Virgin UK Channel 523 - not on TiVo boxes

Try this:

Home > Help & Settings > Help > TV Care > I'm missing some channels, and give it perhaps 15 minutes to do the necessary update.

Sources: Virgin Media Forum and japitts

Yeah lol i'm used to calling them Viacom, old habits.

cheekyangus 22-07-2021 20:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
What's the point on Ch523 showing on Tivo?

V6 (which runs TiVo, I know) is UHD capable bit Original VM TiVo isn't.

Usually when someone says TiVo on a VM related forum they mean original flavour, not V6.

Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic, but sometimes you have to be to stop others being confused.

Media Boy UK 22-07-2021 20:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087278)
What's the point on Ch523 showing on Tivo?

V6 (which runs TiVo, I know) is UHD capable bit Original VM TiVo isn't.

Usually when someone says TiVo on a VM related forum they mean original flavour, not V6.

Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic, but sometimes you have to be to stop others being confused.

Virgin Media UHD also appeared on TiVo boxes.

RichardCoulter 22-07-2021 21:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087279)
Virgin Media UHD also appeared on TiVo boxes.

Does it show the UHD picture downscaled or is it blank?

Media Boy UK 22-07-2021 21:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087283)
Does it show the UHD picture downscaled or is it blank?

It goes by the channel number when you get to Virgin Media UHD. It look like an channel you do not pay for on the EPG listings.

RichardCoulter 22-07-2021 21:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087227)
Tbf back then NOW didn't exist, it'll be a different ball game this time around especially with the rumoured SKYQ online service too.

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Imho i think VMs tv days may be numbered, they will concentrate more on the broadband they're already testing 3gbs speeds.

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Get a fire tv stick if you can NOWTV is on them now and you get access to more apps including plex which is great if you have stuff you purchased on a computer or even home videos etc you can view on your tv without need to run leads across.

Oh yes, it's a whole different ball game these days; that's why I think this claim is plausible.

spiderplant 22-07-2021 21:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087278)
What's the point on Ch523 showing on Tivo?

To encourage people to upgrade?

epsilon 22-07-2021 22:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087278)
What's the point on Ch523 showing on Tivo?

V6 (which runs TiVo, I know) is UHD capable bit Original VM TiVo isn't.

Usually when someone says TiVo on a VM related forum they mean original flavour, not V6.

Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic, but sometimes you have to be to stop others being confused.

I guess there is no way of marking the channels to stop them showing on the Tivo. Which makes sense as there wouldn't have been UHD channels when the Tivo firmware was written. New channel markers should be possible but would need a firmware update. UHD channels will be greyed out on the EPG as will any channel not included in the subscription.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087285)
Oh yes, it's a whole different ball game these days; that's why I think this claim is plausible.

Plausible if Sky want to lose wholesale income from other providers along with reduced advertising income for a lower reach. But why would they want to lose that income?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087283)
Does it show the UHD picture downscaled or is it blank?

If selected from the EPG it will come up with the prompt it displays for any channel not subscribed. If selected by channel number it will display an error message saying something like channel not available or a subscription may be required. The old boxes aren't capable of decoding HEVC, so downscaling the picture isn't an option.

RichardCoulter 22-07-2021 22:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I remember before I got a V+ HD box, the only HD channel at the time didn't show up at all (BBC HD on channel 108).

ScottishSteve 22-07-2021 23:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087293)
I remember before I got a V+ HD box, the only HD channel at the time didn't show up at all (BBC HD on channel 108).

I think the reason behind showing them on legacy boxes now is to give you a taste of what you are missing and would maybe entice some to upgrade or re contract

Legendkiller2k 22-07-2021 23:35

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Plausible if Sky want to lose wholesale income from other providers along with reduced advertising income for a lower reach. But why would they want to lose that income?[COLOR="Silver"]





People said the same about Disney moving everything to their own platform, oh look what happened.
NOWTV which is SKY is widely available much more widely than Virgin Media is, SKY are already getting around ad revenue loss by having adverts on NOWTV VOD unless you upgrade to boost (kerching). It's happening maybe VM will go BTs route and provide the NOWTV service instead.
VM are going to focus more on faster broadband speeds and the tv will eventually be dropped one thinks.

cheekyangus 23-07-2021 00:14

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087295)
People said the same about Disney moving everything to their own platform, oh look what happened.
NOWTV which is SKY is widely available much more widely than Virgin Media is, SKY are already getting around ad revenue loss by having adverts on NOWTV VOD unless you upgrade to boost (kerching). It's happening maybe VM will go BTs route and provide the NOWTV service instead.
VM are going to focus more on faster broadband speeds and the tv will eventually be dropped one thinks.

Difference with Disney was that most of the content they made was on other broadcasters channels, closing their own channels didn't make much difference. Sky, until they started investing heavily in their own content, broadcast a lot of content on their channels that they didn't make. Outside of Sport I wouldn't be surprised if the most popular content on Sky channels is still the stuff they get from other providers, the Sky-branded productions rarely get talked about by people I know.
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36087287)
To encourage people to upgrade?

MB mentioned the "how to get missing channels" method in the post above mine, I wasn't really thinking about greyed out channels when I said what I did, I was thinking about what the point of mentioning that method was if the box wasn't even listing it since all it would solve is adding an additional greyednout line on the EPG.

I agree encouraging to upgrade is a reason for a greyed out listing on an incapable box.

I'm not sure if I'm wording any of this properly, I'm literally yawning as I type this. Apologies if it's nonsense. :o::D

epsilon 23-07-2021 06:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087295)
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087288)
Plausible if Sky want to lose wholesale income from other providers along with reduced advertising income for a lower reach. But why would they want to lose that income?

People said the same about Disney moving everything to their own platform, oh look what happened.
NOWTV which is SKY is widely available much more widely than Virgin Media is, SKY are already getting around ad revenue loss by having adverts on NOWTV VOD unless you upgrade to boost (kerching). It's happening maybe VM will go BTs route and provide the NOWTV service instead.
VM are going to focus more on faster broadband speeds and the tv will eventually be dropped one thinks.

BT had recordable IPTV stream boxes on their system so the conversion was seamless. That's not really the case for Virgin where new boxes would probably be required to record IPTV streams. Even with a basic Now TV app would be unlikely to be added to original flavour Tivo models which, probably, still make up a significant proportion of the boxes on Virgin's network.

As I've said on another forum, withdrawal of a significant number of channels would be a significant blow to Virgin's tv platform. Coupled with a loss of subscription income, would they really invest in supplying new boxes just to act as an income collector for Sky?

NOW is hardly on the same scale as Disney, it just doesn't have as much to offer. It would be a very risky move for Sky to stop providing their channels to third parties if the NOW provision is the only alternative.

However, this is currently a rumour from an unnamed source. I'll not worry about it unless and until the usual reliable industry sources make similar reports.

---------- Post added at 06:25 ---------- Previous post was at 06:18 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087296)
Difference with Disney was that most of the content they made was on other broadcasters channels, closing their own channels didn't make much difference. Sky, until they started investing heavily in their own content, broadcast a lot of content on their channels that they didn't make. Outside of Sport I wouldn't be surprised if the most popular content on Sky channels is still the stuff they get from other providers, the Sky-branded productions rarely get talked about by people I know.

Sky seem to get most of their bought in content from NBC and CBS, so an NBCUniversal / ViacomCBS merger with a combined streaming service would be a significant change to the playing field. Although combining the NBC and CBS networks in the USA isn't going to get regulatory approval.

ScottishSteve 23-07-2021 10:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
A broadcast engineer at Sky has tweeted

‘we’ll be delivering both 5.1 and Atmos for EPL in UHD HDR starting August 13th’
https://twitter.com/ColinSladen/stat...693387776?s=20

Sky have also confirmed this in a press release
https://www.skygroup.sky/article/-an...remier-league_

Maybe there could be some movement on the horizon for Virgin customers on that date.

OLD BOY 23-07-2021 11:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087297)

BT had recordable IPTV stream boxes on their system so the conversion was seamless. That's not really the case for Virgin where new boxes would probably be required to record IPTV streams. Even with a basic Now TV app would be unlikely to be added to original flavour Tivo models which, probably, still make up a significant proportion of the boxes on Virgin's network.

As I've said on another forum, withdrawal of a significant number of channels would be a significant blow to Virgin's tv platform. Coupled with a loss of subscription income, would they really invest in supplying new boxes just to act as an income collector for Sky?

NOW is hardly on the same scale as Disney, it just doesn't have as much to offer. It would be a very risky move for Sky to stop providing their channels to third parties if the NOW provision is the only alternative.

However, this is currently a rumour from an unnamed source. I'll not worry about it unless and until the usual reliable industry sources make similar reports.

Why is it necessary to record IPTV streams when the programmes are already set out on demand within the app? I’m not sure I follow that argument.

BenMcr 23-07-2021 11:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087310)
Why is it necessary to record IPTV streams when the programmes are already set out on demand within the app? I’m not sure I follow that argument.

I think BT use IPTV for live linear channels as it's Freeview + Pay TV channels through a recordable box.

epsilon 23-07-2021 12:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087310)
Why is it necessary to record IPTV streams when the programmes are already set out on demand within the app? I’m not sure I follow that argument.

Is everything shown on the channels also available on-demand?

The point was that BT's boxes can actually record IPTV streams. Many viewers prefer to record and watch at their leisure rather than be restricted to the, often, limited availability of the on-demand content. I believe I've seen you make that point yourself.

Legendkiller2k 23-07-2021 13:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36087311)
I think BT use IPTV for live linear channels as it's Freeview + Pay TV channels through a recordable box.

BT used to use multicast for their channels combined with freeview, not sure if it's still multicast now though.
Plusnet and Talktalk were similar using multicast.
Multicast is basically IPTV.

---------- Post added at 13:20 ---------- Previous post was at 13:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087317)
Is everything shown on the channels also available on-demand?

The point was that BT's boxes can actually record IPTV streams. Many viewers prefer to record and watch at their leisure rather than be restricted to the, often, limited availability of the on-demand content. I believe I've seen you make that point yourself.

No quite a bit of stuff on the channels wasn't available via on demand as is the same with SKY and i think VM.

epsilon 23-07-2021 13:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087320)
No quite a bit of stuff on the channels wasn't available via on demand as is the same with SKY and i think VM.

That's what I thought but OLD BOY seemed to be suggesting that all content is available on-demand.

Aguero9320 23-07-2021 19:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087297)
BT had recordable IPTV stream boxes on their system so the conversion was seamless. That's not really the case for Virgin where new boxes would probably be required to record IPTV streams. Even with a basic Now TV app would be unlikely to be added to original flavour Tivo models which, probably, still make up a significant proportion of the boxes on Virgin's network.

As I've said on another forum, withdrawal of a significant number of channels would be a significant blow to Virgin's tv platform. Coupled with a loss of subscription income, would they really invest in supplying new boxes just to act as an income collector for Sky?

NOW is hardly on the same scale as Disney, it just doesn't have as much to offer. It would be a very risky move for Sky to stop providing their channels to third parties if the NOW provision is the only alternative.

However, this is currently a rumour from an unnamed source. I'll not worry about it unless and until the usual reliable industry sources make similar reports.

---------- Post added at 06:25 ---------- Previous post was at 06:18 ----------


Sky seem to get most of their bought in content from NBC and CBS, so an NBCUniversal / ViacomCBS merger with a combined streaming service would be a significant change to the playing field. Although combining the NBC and CBS networks in the USA isn't going to get regulatory approval.

If NBCU and ViacomCBS choose to merge in the future, I could see CBS spun off and sold to Warner-Discovery. Popular content from The CW could always be aired on CBS, with the other network being closed and most CW content becoming Max Originals.

Media Boy UK 25-07-2021 00:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
BBC Cuts:

-BBC Parliament (Channel 605) will be broadcasting BBC News 24 hours a day from Monday until September.

-From 6am on July 31st BBC Scotland (TV Channel) will be broadcasting BBC Two from Midnight to 7pm.

RichardCoulter 25-07-2021 02:10

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087373)
BBC Cuts:

-BBC Parliament (Channel 605) will be broadcasting BBC News 24 hours a day from Monday until September.

-From 6am on July 31st BBC Scotland (TV Channel) will be broadcasting BBC Two from Midnight to 7pm.

I thought that BBC Scotland only broadcast at night anyway?

ozsat 25-07-2021 07:16

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
There is no change to BBC Scotland - it will still be programming from 7pm to midnight with the 'This is BBC Scotland' info screen between midnight and 7pm.

There is still an occasional day when some odd daytime programming may appear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087373)
BBC Cuts:

-From 6am on July 31st BBC Scotland (TV Channel) will be broadcasting BBC Two from Midnight to 7pm.


muppetman11 25-07-2021 09:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36087335)
If NBCU and ViacomCBS choose to merge in the future, I could see CBS spun off and sold to Warner-Discovery. Popular content from The CW could always be aired on CBS, with the other network being closed and most CW content becoming Max Originals.

They aren't looking to merge more partner for an International Streaming service.

https://deadline.com/2021/07/comcast...nt-1234796476/

OLD BOY 25-07-2021 10:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087373)
BBC Cuts:

-BBC Parliament (Channel 605) will be broadcasting BBC News 24 hours a day from Monday until September.

-From 6am on July 31st BBC Scotland (TV Channel) will be broadcasting BBC Two from Midnight to 7pm.

The BBC Parliament channel cannot broadcast the discussions at Westminster during the summer recess anyway, so it's not really a 'cut'.

1701-e 25-07-2021 12:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087379)
The BBC Parliament channel cannot broadcast the discussions at Westminster during the summer recess anyway, so it's not really a 'cut'.

Exactly in fact it was used as an Olympic channel in the past if memory serves me right as no real loss what with all the repeats

RichardCoulter 25-07-2021 18:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Cuts to BBC Parliament are on the way soon though.

In the past they have normally shown repeats eg reruns of General Election coverage.

Media Boy UK 25-07-2021 18:57

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087415)
Cuts to BBC Parliament are on the way soon though.

In the past they have normally shown repeats eg reruns of General Election coverage.

The BBC Parliament cut has started - the party Conferences season will not be shown in full live on BBC Parliament this year.

Also the BBC Scotland broadcasting BBC Two thing may not happen on July 31st after all as my Freeview TV Set EPG says "This is BBC Scotland" and the listings for BBC Scotland on the BBC web site says that BBC Scotland will just join up with BBC Two when BBC Two joins BBC News overnights.

OLD BOY 25-07-2021 20:21

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36087415)
Cuts to BBC Parliament are on the way soon though.

In the past they have normally shown repeats eg reruns of General Election coverage.

Yes, but repeats do not add value. Take away the repeats from scheduled TV and you will have a lot fewer channels while losing nothing.

Carth 25-07-2021 21:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087418)
Yes, but repeats do not add value. Take away the repeats from scheduled TV and you will have a lot fewer channels while losing nothing.

In turn saving energy and 'saving the planet' ;)

cheekyangus 26-07-2021 10:11

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087416)
The BBC Parliament cut has started - the party Conferences season will not be shown in full live on BBC Parliament this year.

Also the BBC Scotland broadcasting BBC Two thing may not happen on July 31st after all as my Freeview TV Set EPG says "This is BBC Scotland" and the listings for BBC Scotland on the BBC web site says that BBC Scotland will just join up with BBC Two when BBC Two joins BBC News overnights.

They'd be better showing This Is BBC Scotland as it's better for the transmission of other channels on the relevant multiplex.

When Prince Phillip died and all the BBC channels started showing the same thing they ended up taking some channels off-air to stop the ill-affects of what happens when all channels show the same thing on a multiplex. At least that was what I heard from some techy folk, who are more techy than me, at the time.

Not that this is really a problem as BBC Scotland channel doesn't have the ten zillion regional variations of BBC1 which was part of the problem on some platforms at that time.

Anyways I'm blabbing in my own wee world offtopic. Ignore me. :D

---------- Post added at 10:11 ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087418)
Yes, but repeats do not add value. Take away the repeats from scheduled TV and you will have a lot fewer channels while losing nothing.

They do for people that don't see things the first time around, or aren't techy, or have internet.

I know many people that have discovered shows a long time past original transmission, and can't use on-demand.

Everyone uses TVs differently.

ozsat 26-07-2021 17:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
The schedules up to 7th Aug do not show BBC2 being carried on BBC Scotland.

They are still as usual 7pm to midnight only then 'This is BBC Scotland' from midnight to 7pm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087416)
Also the BBC Scotland broadcasting BBC Two thing may not happen on July 31st after all as my Freeview TV Set EPG says "This is BBC Scotland" and the listings for BBC Scotland on the BBC web site says that BBC Scotland will just join up with BBC Two when BBC Two joins BBC News overnights.


Media Boy UK 27-07-2021 17:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
From August 9th the listings for Eurosport UHD and Eurosport 3 to 9 HD Channels all say coming soon so it maybe nothing but when the channel closes Virgin EPG say "Channel No Longer Available" or is Virgin set to launch 7 HD Channels and an UHD Channel?

Here is the make up list of channels that may launch after August 9th.

Sky Sports UHD

1) Create & Craft HD
2) Ideal World HD
3) MUTV HD
4) CNBC HD
5) Nick Jr. HD
6) Boomerang HD
7) CNN International HD

Or Virgin can reuse the slots to launch 8 SD Channels:

GREAT! movies action +1
GREAT! movies classic +1
GREAT! movies +1
POP Max
POP Max +1
POP +1
Tiny Pop +1
B4U Plus or Nick Jr. +1

epsilon 27-07-2021 18:17

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087607)
From August 9th the listings for Eurosport UHD and Eurosport 3 to 9 HD Channels all say coming soon so it maybe nothing but when the channel closes Virgin EPG say "Channel No Longer Available" or is Virgin set to launch 7 HD Channels and an UHD Channel?

Here is the make up list of channels that may launch after August 9th.

Sky Sports UHD

1) Create & Craft HD
2) Ideal World HD
3) MUTV HD
4) CNBC HD
5) Nick Jr. HD
6) Boomerang HD
7) CNN International HD

Or Virgin can reuse the slots to launch 8 SD Channels:

GREAT! movies action +1
GREAT! movies classic +1
GREAT! movies +1
POP Max
POP Max +1
POP +1
Tiny Pop +1
B4U Plus or Nick Jr. +1

This perhaps: https://www.timeanddate.com/events/s...pic-games.html

ozsat 27-07-2021 18:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Or perhaps they will be use for the Paralympic Games later in August?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087607)
From August 9th the listings for Eurosport UHD and Eurosport 3 to 9 HD Channels all say coming soon so it maybe nothing but when the channel closes Virgin EPG say "Channel No Longer Available" or is Virgin set to launch 7 HD Channels and an UHD Channel?

Here is the make up list of channels that may launch after August 9th.

Sky Sports UHD

1) Create & Craft HD
2) Ideal World HD
3) MUTV HD
4) CNBC HD
5) Nick Jr. HD
6) Boomerang HD
7) CNN International HD

Or Virgin can reuse the slots to launch 8 SD Channels:

GREAT! movies action +1
GREAT! movies classic +1
GREAT! movies +1
POP Max
POP Max +1
POP +1
Tiny Pop +1
B4U Plus or Nick Jr. +1


gba93 27-07-2021 18:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36087611)
Or perhaps they will be use for the Paralympic Games later in August?

Sounds more likely.

Media Boy UK 27-07-2021 19:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36087610)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36087611)
Or perhaps they will be use for the Paralympic Games later in August?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 36087612)
Sounds more likely.

Channel 4 has got the rights to the Paralympic Games 2020 and they confrimed that it will be shown on Channel 4 HD, More 4 HD and All4.

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...es-programming

---------- Post added at 19:20 ---------- Previous post was at 19:13 ----------

Paralympic Games will be shown on Channel 4 until 2024.
Discovery will show Olympic until 2024 and also sub-license the rights to BBC.

ozsat 27-07-2021 20:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
C4 will have 16 streams - so perhaps they plan to put some on satellite and cable.

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...on-studios-and

Media Boy UK 27-07-2021 20:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36087629)
C4 will have 16 streams - so perhaps they plan to put some on satellite and cable.

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...on-studios-and

As you said "perhaps". Maybe the 16 streams Channel 4 is on about will be on All4.

I have not see reports yet on anything testing on Sky from Channel 4. Unless they close their music channels for the few weeks.:D

ozsat 27-07-2021 20:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I've never known 'Coming Soon' to be displayed in the EPG when a channel is being changed from one to another.

If they do the same on Sky they could use the existing Eurosport streams there.

But your list of HD channels would be nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087633)
As you said "perhaps". Maybe the 16 streams Channel 4 is on about will be on All4.

I have not see reports yet on anything testing on Sky from Channel 4. Unless they close their music channels for the few weeks.:D


cheekyangus 28-07-2021 00:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I didn't realise there was a Eurosport On-demand area until I noticed the Catch Up With Tokyo 2020 at the bottom of my V6 Home menu.

Bound to disappear after Olympics. Shame.

Phunkenstein 28-07-2021 00:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Here’s a big one…

https://deadline.com/2021/07/comcast...se-1234800769/

Sky One is off to the EPG in the erm, Sky… Showcase and Max are the new channel brands…

cheekyangus 28-07-2021 00:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36087649)
Here’s a big one…

https://deadline.com/2021/07/comcast...se-1234800769/

Sky One is off to the EPG in the erm, Sky… Showcase and Max are the new channel brands…

Beat me to it!

Another article on the topic.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sky-on...ve-newsupdate/

It reads to me like Sky has basically moved all Sky Original shows to Sky Max and Showcase will basically be showing bits from all the other channels.

They don't mention Sky Replay but Sky Showcase sounds like Replay in concept, even though it's getting Sky 1's slot on Satellite. So maybe Replay is being axed? Pick is basically SkyReplay+1or2Years, so isn't really needed, so it makes sense to me.

They mention Sky Originals going to Sky Max but not what is happening to all the 3rd party imports like The Flash, Supergirl, Legends Of Tomorrow etc. Are they being rehomed or are they being cut loose?

Wednesday 1st September is the date given.

---------- Post added at 00:54 ---------- Previous post was at 00:47 ----------

I wonder if VM will think "What's the point of Sky Showcase? We'd rather have Max and/or Atlantic".

If Showcase is going to show content from all Sky's channels, VM customers will get a selection of Atlantic content via it if Showcase is directly replacing Sky1.

Since this is all 2 months away presumably VM will know about this all already since it involves a service they carry ending.

Legendkiller2k 28-07-2021 02:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36087649)
Here’s a big one…

https://deadline.com/2021/07/comcast...se-1234800769/

Sky One is off to the EPG in the erm, Sky… Showcase and Max are the new channel brands…

SKY Max is a new channel so may not launch on VM i'm back in office Thursday so will see if there is any info on this.
Expect more rebrands to come in the future too.

TimeLord2018 28-07-2021 09:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087654)

It reads to me like Sky has basically moved all Sky Original shows to Sky Max and Showcase will basically be showing bits from all the other channels.

They don't mention Sky Replay but Sky Showcase sounds like Replay in concept, even though it's getting Sky 1's slot on Satellite. So maybe Replay is being axed? Pick is basically SkyReplay+1or2Years, so isn't really needed, so it makes sense to me.

.

Yes Sky Replay is closing aswell , Sky Original Comedy is moving to Sky Comedy

---------- Post added at 09:27 ---------- Previous post was at 07:52 ----------

Both will be available on Virgin
Quote:

The channels will be available to Sky customers at no extra charge. They will also launch on streaming service NOW and on Virgin and BT
.
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...se-and-sky-max

cheekyangus 28-07-2021 10:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Many thanks for the link TimeLord2018.

Phunkenstein 28-07-2021 11:41

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Sky’s press release does appear to stress that Sky Atlantic “…will remain the exclusive home of high-concept original dramas such as Landscapers, I Hate Suzie, Gangs of London and Chernobyl, as well as being the home of drama from HBO and Showtime.”


Looks like the Atlantic content will not be on Showcase and the dream still eludes Virgin subscribers…

johnasimmons 28-07-2021 12:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36087676)
Sky’s press release does appear to stress that Sky Atlantic “…will remain the exclusive home of high-concept original dramas such as Landscapers, I Hate Suzie, Gangs of London and Chernobyl, as well as being the home of drama from HBO and Showtime.”


Looks like the Atlantic content will not be on Showcase and the dream still eludes Virgin subscribers…


After over 10 years it looks like the only way to get Sky Atlantic is via a NOW Stick for VM subscribers

Legendkiller2k 28-07-2021 13:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36087657)
Yes Sky Replay is closing aswell , Sky Original Comedy is moving to Sky Comedy

---------- Post added at 09:27 ---------- Previous post was at 07:52 ----------

Both will be available on Virgin
.
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...se-and-sky-max

Thanks Timelord saved me a lot of work tomorrow lol.

muppetman11 28-07-2021 13:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Another pointless channel change

Mad Max 28-07-2021 14:20

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36087698)
Another pointless channel change


Another pointless channel ...:D

muppetman11 28-07-2021 14:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36087700)
Another pointless channel ...:D

:D

Make it look like we are offering more , Sky has gone backwards under Comcast ownership in my opinion.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2021 14:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Why is Syfy and Movies 24 brands are still here?

Phunkenstein 28-07-2021 14:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087703)
Why is Syfy and Movies 24 brands are still here?

Well they were previously NBCU channels before Sky took operational control - if I had to guess, there may still be some outstanding carriage deals struck by NBCU that still have to run - thinking places like Virgin and Vodafone in Ireland and any legacy tv subscribers from Talktalk… Virgin’s U.K. deal with Sky in 2019 covered those NBCU channels.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2021 14:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36087704)
Well they were previously NBCU channels before Sky took operational control - if I had to guess, there may still be some outstanding carriage deals struck by NBCU that still have to run - thinking places like Virgin and Vodafone in Ireland and any legacy tv subscribers from Talktalk… Virgin’s U.K. deal with Sky in 2019 covered those NBCU channels.

What about Universal Channel? That channel is become known as Sky Comedy in 2020.

Sky can do the following if they wanted to:

Syfy - Sky Drama or close with shows moving to soon to launch Sky Max or Sky Witness.
Movies 24/Movies 24 + - Sky Comedy Gold/Sky Comedy Gold +1 (NBCs Comedy shows from 1960s to 1990s).

gba93 28-07-2021 14:47

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36087686)
After over 10 years it looks like the only way to get Sky Atlantic is via a NOW Stick for VM subscribers

After 10 years anyone who wants Sky Atlantic should have it by now - why, oh why are we still wittering on about it - those that want it should go and get it and then we can all move on (please). :mad:

Legendkiller2k 28-07-2021 14:49

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087703)
Why is Syfy and Movies 24 brands are still here?

SYFY is a global brand so that'll be staying, movies24 might aswell change that to romancemovies or even better crapmovies.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2021 14:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 36087708)
After 10 years anyone who wants Sky Atlantic should have it by now - why, oh why are we still wittering on about it - those that want it should go and get it and then we can all move on (please). :mad:

I can see Sky Atlantic being axe in 2024 anyway as Discovery are in the middle of taking over the owners of HBO right now.

---------- Post added at 14:52 ---------- Previous post was at 14:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087709)
SYFY is a global brand so that'll be staying, movies24 might aswell change that to romancemovies or even better crapmovies.

I did see rumours online last year that Movies 24 was set to close in 2021 but nothing been confirmed.

cheekyangus 28-07-2021 14:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the comic book series like The Flash and other 3rd Party Sky 1 imports, all move to Syfy and Sky Witness.

Movies24, during Christmas, gets better ratings than likes of Sky Comedy, Sky Nature and Sky Documentaries. Though the rest of the year that not the case. Maybe they'll just axe Movies24+.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2021 14:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087712)
I wouldn't be surprised if the comic book series like The Flash and other 3rd Party Sky 1 imports, all move to Syfy and Sky Witness.

Movies24, during Christmas, gets better ratings than likes of Sky Comedy, Sky Nature and Sky Documentaries. Though the rest of the year that not the case. Maybe they'll just axe Movies24+.

DC shows are moving to Sky Max (Sky Max HD?)

cheekyangus 28-07-2021 14:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36087709)
SYFY is a global brand so that'll be staying, movies24 might aswell change that to romancemovies or even better crapmovies.

My mother watches it a lot. It isn't just romance movies. Not my cup of tea, but I've seen worse on other channels.

---------- Post added at 14:59 ---------- Previous post was at 14:57 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087713)
DC shows are moving to Sky Max (Sky Max HD?)

They've said Max is for Sky Originals and Entertainment shows, DC stuff doesn't fit that. Though they may go to Max until WB reclaims them for their own streaming service.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2021 15:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36087714)
My mother watches it a lot. It isn't just romance movies. Not my cup of tea, but I've seen worse on other channels.

---------- Post added at 14:59 ---------- Previous post was at 14:57 ----------



They've said Max is for Sky Originals and Entertainment shows, DC stuff doesn't fit that. Though they may go to Max until WB reclaims them for their own streaming service.

Here my source - https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-shake-up.html

cheekyangus 28-07-2021 15:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087716)

Ta. They quote Variety, which is a trade paper, as source for the relevant section, which I believe a trillion times more than The Sun. So yeah, sounds like that is the case.

Phunkenstein 28-07-2021 15:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
It’s in the actual Sky Press Release -

Sky Max’s launch schedule will include blockbuster entertainment such as the return of Never Mind the Buzzcocks, The Russell Howard Hour and DC Super Heroes.

cheekyangus 28-07-2021 15:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36087724)
It’s in the actual Sky Press Release -

Sky Max’s launch schedule will include blockbuster entertainment such as the return of Never Mind the Buzzcocks, The Russell Howard Hour and DC Super Heroes.

So it does! Ooops! My coffee is faulty. :D

I normally read them referred to collectively as the Arrowverse so my brain refused to cooperate. :dunce:

Thanks Phunkenstein!

OLD BOY 28-07-2021 16:19

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36087676)
Sky’s press release does appear to stress that Sky Atlantic “…will remain the exclusive home of high-concept original dramas such as Landscapers, I Hate Suzie, Gangs of London and Chernobyl, as well as being the home of drama from HBO and Showtime.”


Looks like the Atlantic content will not be on Showcase and the dream still eludes Virgin subscribers…

I expect you are correct, although I would point out that, as you say, the press release states that SA will remain ‘the exclusive home of high-concept original dramas’. That does not necessarily mean that Sky Atlantic will remain exclusive to Sky satellite and Now TV viewers.

However, it is probably fairly safe to assume that it will, given the history.

Dave42 28-07-2021 16:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087734)
I expect you are correct, although I would point out that, as you say, the press release states that SA will remain ‘the exclusive home of high-concept original dramas’. That does not necessarily mean that Sky Atlantic will remain exclusive to Sky satellite and Now TV viewers.

However, it is probably fairly safe to assume that it will, given the history.

as i have always said sky will never let VM have SA OB

OLD BOY 28-07-2021 16:42

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36087702)
:D

Make it look like we are offering more , Sky has gone backwards under Comcast ownership in my opinion.

Not really. Sky Replay (SD only) was a waste of space. At least Sky Showcase will be taking the pick of programmes from across its channels and in HD.

So that is an improvement and the number of channels remains the same. Sky One’s successor, Sky Max, looks to be an improvement, benefiting from an increase in original content from Sky Studios.

With the launch of Sky Nature and Sky Documentaries recently, it appears that Sky is concentrating on improving content quality rather than new channels screening hours of rubbish.

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 36087708)
After 10 years anyone who wants Sky Atlantic should have it by now - why, oh why are we still wittering on about it - those that want it should go and get it and then we can all move on (please). :mad:

As explained very patiently over the years, many of us want to stick with Virgin Media and want that channel on our boxes.

I would not go to the Sky platform by choice.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36087710)
I can see Sky Atlantic being axe in 2024 anyway as Discovery are in the middle of taking over the owners of HBO right now.

Could be, but Sky Atlantic shows more than HBO programmes.

HBO is likely to be streaming only when the existing contract runs out.


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