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The thing is actual votes aren’t turning up in that manner.

This is based on a published database updating - without knowing the full detail of what got updated when - it’s entirely possible within their processes of segregating and counting ballots that numbers for an individual candidate could update but not others.

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CBS seems to have disabled embedding. Here's the full link, it works on the Youtube website: https://youtu.be/17EOwbctx5w

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Who thought there could be so much amusement to be gained over a US President election? I was deeply bored last night but this morning there is comedy gold everywhere. :rofl:

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I think CNN are getting ready to project this thing in the next few hours.

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Wolf Blitzer on from the get go this morning.

But yes if this next tranche of Pennsylvania votes goes heavily Biden and puts him tens of thousands in front and say Trump needs 60%+ of those outstanding at that point I think they’ll say there’s no evidence to say that he will and call it.

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If Biden wins then convention says they can start phoning world leaders at the permission of the sitting President. I can see Trump telling world leaders not to accept those calls or risk his wrath.

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thank you

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This has never happened - you are talking round things.

What has happened is that mail-in ballots from very strong Democratic-leaning areas are coming in, and they are between 60% and 80% for Biden - these people opted for mail-in ballots because of all the hints of polling site intimidation* put about by right wing media.

*by all those morons with guns you mentioned earlier.

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It wasn't my opinion it was the trump campaign's opinion.

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Exactly. When I saw that sad, repetitive rant from Trump last night, I thought no one in the UK would believe what the old man was saying. My bad.

Fortunately, he'll now have opportunities for earlier nights in the future and can spend some quality time with his family. :)

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Sounds like the 2002 election





















in Iraq.

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whether the next president is chosen via vote rigging or a supreme court decision,i think the office is damaged for the foreseeable future.

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I fail to see how Biden winning at a canter (if he gets to 306) damages the office.

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Sadly, the damaged goods will be Trump as his party turns on him. I hope he has a dignified exit.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/us-p...ud-b51590.html

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I’m with Seph I want to see Trump carted out by Secret Service agents howling at the moon about fraud. Ideally crying.

As long as there’s not civil unrest where innocent people get hurt.

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With every republican crying fraud how can it not be damaged.

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Dem guns aint for decoration.

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There's a very big chance of that from his 'Cult' of followers. There has been a 1 nautical mile no fly zone above Biden's house for the last couple of days, due to expire tomorrow but may be extended and the secret service have sent more agents. The precautions could be as they are expecting him to be declared President elect.

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Quite simply, as evidenced earlier, every Republican isn't.

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There’s one Republican crying fraud.

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Biden ahead in Pennsylvania.

Just a matter of time until networks call it

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I’m fairly sure these are standard for a President elect and not an indication of a threat to Biden. Part of the problem is as he’s not formally President elect they can’t bundle him to Washington and do what they would usually do.

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Hence my last sentence.

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Later today possibly.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1604671316

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I was agreeing with you - apologies if it read otherwise.

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Can you point me in the direction of said evidence.

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Whose going to call it first?

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I can see them trying to make sure they all go at the same time.

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If Fox News goes first it'll wind Trump up more

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Sure will a Republican Pennsylvanian Senator do?


https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status...93424738574337

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Well that's one out of millions ,he'll be popular with the general population.

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I don't think the court cases are a big concern. If he has proof then he can run with it and he should, if he doesn't he won't get far. Same with recounts.

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Isn't the talk of Trump facing court, IIRC something about grabbing women the P....


I'll stop there in case I breach rules

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Some more - so not "every Republican"...

Have some more...


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...of-voter-fraud

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What percentage of a gnats pubic hair is that then.

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https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/...32414925615106

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The only court case of any concern at all to me was Pennsylvania and votes coming in after Election Day. If Biden is tens of thousands clear without these ballots being looked at in any case the point is moot.

Georgia strikes me as likely to go to a recount but then again the evidence from the past is that recounts don't significantly alter outcomes.

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So 100% of 3 republicans :scratch:

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What i want to know is when do the recounts start and will this be over by xmas.

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If Georgia recounts that process will only begin after certification and a request, which could be as late as November 24. That said, it'll all be over tonight. The real question is how long el Presidente clings on in denial like a tin pot dictator in South America.

Somewhat ironically if this was happening in an oil rich country in South America, the Middle East or North Africa the Americans would have had boots on the ground by Wednesday lunchtime and pick their preferred winner.

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The recounts won't matter in all likelihood. Assuming Biden wins Pennsylvania and Nevada then Biden has the Electoral College votes without Georga and Wisconsin. Michigan and Pennslyvania look like they'll be above the threshold for a recount.

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Any recounts would be quicker as postal votes won't need to be opened and verified before counting.

BREAKING: Recount announced in Georgia.

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Looking forward to you providing proof that every Republican is crying "fraud" (there are nearly 70 million Republican voters in this election, so it may take you a while... ;) ).

Narrator: This isn't going to happen.

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Michigan and Pennslyvania are the centres of accusations of foul play so all the legal challenges will probably centre there.

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Captain pedantic rides again

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To be fair, I'm not sure even a majority of Republican voters believe there has been fraud.

I don't doubt that many of his hard core supporters believe his claims, but they don't sum anything close to 70 million.

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How comforting for you :angel:

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Biden to give a speech tonight.

I wonder how he handles doing so when I think it's clear Trump isn't going to concede?

Ideally, he should play that down and do the usual magnanimous complimenting on your opponent when you win an election. Boosting Trump's ego might also ease him into moving on from this (likely) defeat.

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Who is saying he has won ?

Your plan just might enrage trump, congratulating him on losing might not be the best idea.

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Depends if the networks project him as doing so or not. We are sort of expecting it I think.

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Ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. :D

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I watched Nancy Pelosi earlier claiming a win for joe and setting out her plans for the future,if Trump has seen that i would guess he has he will be fuming.

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Says Major Mistake... ;)

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Hillary can sing :shocked:

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Why would you think they care? Indeed why should you care? Trump isn't polite to them.

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I don't think they like ex-President Trump on CNN :D

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Thing is, it is convention to address him as president for the rest of his life in official settings. What are the odds they will do it.

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Pretty high, I would imagine - Fox News call Obama ”President Obama" (some of the "opinion" shows on Fox, not so much...).

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Talking of Fox news.

Link

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That's pretty scary and Fox News have been good at pushing back until now. Bit weird tbh.

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Do you use president elect after the opponent has conceded?

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Will sleepy Joe be allowed visits to the Whitehouse from his care home?

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I'm sure that after serving his Presidential term, he would then be welcomed back regardless of his residence.

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Concession is a traditional piece of political theatre but has no constitutional meaning. The US constitution terminates a presidency at midday on the 20th of January following an election. Even a winning president must be sworn in again. Trump will certainly be ungracious enough to refuse to concede, but if the numbers are clear, and it is obvious how the State Electors will cast their votes, it’s fair enough to call the winner the president-elect even before that ceremony takes place. That said, the designation itself probably has no legal meaning before the election ceremony, so if any of the news networks wish to be as churlish as soon-to-be-ex-president Trump, that’s their prerogative.

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Marine One will be able to take him to and fro...

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This slow count is now starting to get absurd. There are states that can literally only show a handful of new votes after several hours. America needs to sort this for next time.

Florida has 22 million people, they completed on the night.
Nevada has 3 million as is still doing it.

I know some states can't count before election day whereas Nevada can but that's still a joke.

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Speaking of which - here’s how it was done 12 years ago...

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You would need to ask president Harris,there's no way this about electing the old crumbling fart with dementia.

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No, he lost - Biden won...

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Been watching tv has the election been called ?

Just fact checked and your talking rubbish

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When your perpetrating the biggest fraud in human history it's essential not to be seen to be in a hurry ,if it takes longer it looks legitimate,this would make a great film it could rival the sting for it's audacity.

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You’re sounding more and more like the Donald, lots of accusations, no evidence or facts to back them up.

Each of the States run their own elections - you appear to be accusing Georgia of scheming against their own party’s candidate...

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i don't think you understand where i'm going with this,stay riveted to my posts as the night progresses.

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It is not though that Florida was won so significantly that nobody really cares about a few thousand partially completed postal ballots, provisional ballots and absentee ballots.

They will still have officials wading through these things before finalising their results in a few weeks time. However nobody is rushing them, and nobody has a great interest in standing over them while they check these things as it won't affect the outcome.

I do agree though that the process needs to be ironed out and made consistent across the 50 states and DC.

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2000 was a stolen election in the US. Won by lawyers and money. Never again or democracy dies.

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I can't wait.

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See you at the funeral ;)

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On CNN they made the point earlier that overturning a single state result is one thing, overturning four or five against the popular vote isn't something that I'd imagine the Supreme Court are interested in doing.

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Wow 2 followers i think i might get a twitter account.

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I've figured it out. There are at least two fraudsters waiting for the other to present ballets so they can then counter with a higher amount.

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In typical american showbiz style one state wants to be the one that makes the difference and announce their result to call the presidency.

It's utterly pathetic.

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They going to have a dance off?:erm:

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I'm bored again so I'm off to bed..Maybe there will be a winner at some point tonight.

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Surely if true Pennsylvania just does it? It's in their control. Or Nevada forces Fox to call it.

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It's worse than a soap opera.

Make it stop please.....................

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BREAKING: New US Supreme Court order issued just now from Justice Alito:

All Pennsylvania ballots received after 8pm on November 3 must be:

(1) segregated and kept separate from other ballots; and
(2) counted separately from timely ballots.

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Apparently this was being done anyway. It's also unlikely to matter as even without the count Biden will take the state.

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Yeah they still haven't been counted for this reason. This seems to simply ensure they're counted separately so no lagging pre-election day votes get mixed in.

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Bi den Donald..

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'Why can't President Trump go back to the White House?'

'It's ForBiden' :)

I'll get my coat.....

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Donald Trump needs to get his big boy trousers on and accept that the people have spoken and do his concession speech like presidents before him..

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It's poor PR for Western democracy to see the election results challenged in such a sordid manner. Putin, Xi Jinping, Alexander Lukashenko must be particuarly happy to hear of Trump's legal actions.

it's also creating a chasm between the Trump family and the Republican Party. If Ivanka hoped to run for President then Trump's killed this ambition off for many years...but knowing the average age of US presidents, this may not be an issue! ;)

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I really don't think Trump has done a bad job until the COVID 19 hit which he has handled in a disgusting way, I do laugh at all the people getting on the I hate Trump bandwagon when they actually haven't seen his polices, pre covid the American economy had improved.

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It's not his policies for me, it's just him.

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No it wasn’t, if you check the order issued it was dated yesterday, a second intervention that is requesting separated ballots arriving late not be counted towards total. May also be subject to a mandatory recount, because Democrats lead by a Dementia patient have systematically cheated en masse by harvesting ballots and having dead people vote, why did they not allow poll watchers in, why did they board up windows to stop the public from seeing the count, and now we have the FBI involved in claims from a postal service worker who claims workers were ordered to backdate late arrived ballots, what a ****ing disgrace Democrats are. If Biden wins, he will be an illegitimate president.

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The thing is there is a big difference between what Trump and the RNC are saying and the legal suits they've so far issued.

I still think it's more political theatre than a substantial push so far.

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If this is all true they can prove it in court.

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No, that’s bullshit. Trump has every right to ensure voter integrity, making sure cheating isn’t happening by the back door. there are massive issues here in play, happening by the corrupted Democrats led by dopey gaffe prone Joe.

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Yes but you can't not vote for someone because you don't like them but have the best policies, sure you'd rather have someone you don't like personally and has very good polices than someone you like and has bad policies, I don't like Boris but he had better polices than Corbyn.

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https://swarajyamag.com/insta/us-pos...roject-veritas

This election is looking like the biggest fraud in human history ,it should definitely be scrutinised by the courts to ensure that democracy has not been stolen from the American people.

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It isn’t true and much of it has already been dealt with by the BBC’s fact checking team.

For example on the issue of screening windows, this was done at the request of the tellers sitting close to them who were feeling intimidated and distracted by the baying mob just a couple of feet behind them. Crucially, there were already well over a hundred poll watchers inside the venue at that time, so suggesting that the idea was to prevent the count being monitored is just nuts.

I’ve taken to reading Fox News over the past couple of days (I know :disturbd: ) because it’s useful to see how the most Trump-friendly outlet is seeing this. And I can see absolutely no hint of them making a big deal of the ruling in Pennsylvania.

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From the 28th October
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ds/6054492002/

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Strange how you only espouse the rule of democratic democracy when it suits your political agenda Mick.

Nice to see you always see the Democrats as corrupt but that flimsy statement does not seem to apply to your Republicans.