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But they didn’t go out to where the bombs were dropping, which is the equivalent of going to social gatherings (except this time it wouldn’t be the ones at the bombing sites who were harmed, but those they met afterwards).

Also, there were draconian war-time laws and restrictions on personal liberties, including movement and transportation - often the people (not you) who invoke "the blitz spirit" only remember the working together for a common goal, not the rationing, black-outs, children evacuees, black-market spivs, conscription (on the Home Front, such as the Women’s Land Army, the Bevin Boys), the 60,000 dead and 86,000 seriously injured from the aerial bombing, etc..

To quote from the Imperial War Museum site Surely we should learn from that, not just repeat it.

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Now this is a good idea, I hope other similar companies follow suit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETjASCxX...pg&name=medium

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VE Day found Britain exhausted, drab and in poor shape, but justly proud of its unique role in gaining the Allied victory


This time around exhausted drab and in poor shape is our starting position.

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A London hospital has confirmed a "critical incident" due to a surge in COVID-19 cases.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/news/hospitals...027189.article

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...s-you-11960660

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Not everyone lives near Grimsby/Cleethorpes...

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No some poor folk live in Leeds;)

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BREAKING: UK Government orders mandatory closure of all pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants in the UK.

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Bars, clubs, resturants etc to close from tonight.

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Night clubs, theatres, gyms, cinemas and leisure centures must also close on the same timescale.

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Government to pay 80% of wages for employees not working, up to £2,500 a month, Chancellor Rishi Sunak says

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I don't use any of those but it's a big change for many,hope the staff are all getting paid by HM GOV.


just seen Hugh's post so that's a relief



How long before panic buying of booze begins.

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So in these last few days the Prime Minister and the chancellor has basically nationalised the economy.

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Bet there's plenty of Corona!

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627 deaths from Italy today. On an uncontrolled growth rate this could be 1,000 a day in 2 or 3 days.

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White wine was depleted in Sainsbury's this afternoon. Spirits holding up well.:D

At least there were a few veggies available. No spuds or sweet potatoes though, plenty of loose broccoli.

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White wine is not a essential though.:D

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Speak for yourself Mr Teetotal.:D

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Tea might be easier to get then alcohol soon though.:p:

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Well the tea aisle was stripped as well.

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Homebrew might make a comeback.Potato peel wine anyone?

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I thought it was pea pod vodka?

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That might be a bit strong for you old chap but l do recommend parsnip wine if you can get hold of some as Dad told me thats pretty strong stuff.;)

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Just made a batch of wheat beer 5 gallons, got mead,home made spirit/ sippin shine, wine[ bit rough but drinkable] and 4 bottles of shop bought port, and a kit to make 5 gallons of IPA. just need crisps and i'm good.

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Just received an email from Kennedy Space Centre (I asked for a refund on 4 tickets and parking, due to them closing for an indefinite period from 16th March, and our tickets were for the 19th March - didn’t feel the need to point out we weren’t in the USA on this date...).

Thought CF-er’s might find this amusing.

The 1990’s called, and asked for their technology back...

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Aye, they've gone further than even Corbyn wanted to, but I applaud them for doing the right thing.

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That is actually amazing, they're throwing everything behind trying to save this situation as best they can.

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Who the hell has a fax machine these days! I wonder if it's designed to put you off from claiming??

ISTR that there are/were sites online where you basically sent an email to a fax machine and it came out the other end as a fax. Maybe this would enable you to do it this way Hugh?

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Free 30 day trial.

https://www.myfax.eu/

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I understand it, but as China seem to have cracked this in 3no. Months, I would hope we see things getting back to normal by June.

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One would hope for that scenario that is for sure but l think they want us to prepare for the worst case scenario just in case that is the scenario that we end up with.

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Thanks - very much appreciated.

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Shame on people politicizing the situation with nationalisation and corbyn comments....

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The Daily Telegraph's sentiments were just that....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ntire-economy/

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Does any one believe China has cracked this?, they've been deporting foreign journalists and arresting their own ones.

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In China people do as they are told, we don't because we're either thick, or know better, and that's why we're in trouble. We're going the way of Italy I'm afraid if not worse. They at least have locked areas down which we should have done with London a week ago.

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They've stopped the spread. But now they need to get back to normality, somehow, without it flaring up again.

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If you’re fed up singing "happy birthday" when washing your hands, I’ve made up a couple of alternatives...

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As someone who works in a pub, today has been interesting. I look forward to see what the coming weeks/months bring.

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In this day and age, that’s ridiculous on their part. Wouldn’t it be prudent, to perhaps screw their refund process and initiate a charge back, if paid by card, for non-deliverance of goods, rather than piss about with faxes?

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I'm currently sitting at my mum hospital bedside.


She is very ill (not Covid-19) related.

On Thursday I was taking a small break as I'd been up close to 30 hours.

I saw 3 helicopters do a touch and go training exercise.

Then the ward mums on was moved.

They have totally emptied one side of the hospital and is on standby

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The military are on alert to assist the civil authority. They will be doing exercises to test their readiness to move supplies, and probably very sick people as well. Hospital wards that are not normally equipped for critical care are being prepared to become impromptu ICUs. This is all contingency planning - they will be hoping it’s not necessary to use any of it in the end, but it’s better that they’re prepared than caught out.

I will also add, though it looks frightening when a lot of military hardware suddenly starts appearing, just the time I spent around this stuff, and the people who operate it, back in my salad days as a CCF cadet, it really isn’t - these people are absolutely smegging brilliant at what they do. If it’s necessary for the military to step in they will keep things moving.

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Various freebies on offer for these trying times.

Ubisoft - free trials, and free weekend on Assassins Creed - https://news.ubisoft.com/en-gb/artic...oft-games-free

New York Met - various recordings of Operas, and clips of others - https://www.metopera.org/user-inform...opera-streams/ and https://www.metopera.org/discover/video/

BBC Teach - Live Lessons - https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/live-lessons

Watchdogs game - free for a limited period - https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-U...atch-dogs/home

And The Stanley Parable - https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-U...y-parable/home

Call of Duty:Warzone - free Battle Royale-type game - https://blog.activision.com/call-of-...f-Duty-Warzone

Coldplay’s Chris Martin doing a 30 minute Instagram concert from his house - https://www.instagram.com/tv/B90Ft_k...ource=ig_embed

Ken Burns’ baseball documentary on PBS - https://www.pbs.org/show/baseball/

San Diego Zoo live cams - https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/live-cams

Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History - Virtual Tours - https://naturalhistory.si.edu/visit/virtual-tour

Some self-education MOOCs - https://lifehacker.com/you-can-take-...ree-1830066444

Steam - Football Manager 2020 - free till Wednesday - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1..._Manager_2020/

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Starting to get really tired and frustrated at all the people trying to say it's a "man made virus" to control population/tackle climate change or whatever idiotic reason they can think up.

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Morons got to moron...

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Did it work? I did a search, but it came up with a site that hadn't been updated since 2004! Good that Pip found one for you to try.

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One of the country's leading Ear, Nose and Throat consultants has told Sky News there are new signs for detecting COVID-19 in patients.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...smell-11961439

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Limiting your access to social media and news is the best advice I've had so far. I'm even limiting my time on CF ;) A walk is the best medicine.

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Part of my job involves monitoring social media and as I'm WFH for the foreseeable future I'll be exposed to these Stupids on a daily basis.

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... and the Health Secretary has just told a news conference that the key symptoms to look out for for diagnosis and self isolation are still raised temperature and a new, persistent, dry cough.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51984399

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Some important news just breaking as 8,000 more hospital beds and 20,000 extra staff join the COVID-19 fight.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...fight-11961532

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In 50 yrs they'll look back and...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETpH5pAU...g&name=900x900

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And where they exactly have they come from ? Hopes it's not retired staff they hope to recruit but haven't yet. If I was over 60 and more vulnerable I'd be thinking hard before putting myself in the the firing line.

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The private sector.

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If you read it, you would see, its private hospitals.

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I hope to God that this is fake news or sensationalism:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...88b8DB07MIse1M

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Probably both...

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It seems some are still not listening..

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ifies-11961382

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The number of COVID-19 deaths in UK rises by 53 to 233.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...o-233-11961375

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Sorry about this being so small, I couldn't work out how to enlarge it.

It's about how we can say thank you to our NHS staff & carers.

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As I posted in the other thread: Preview the post, click on the attached image to get the full size version, copy the board URL and then enclose it in [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] tags You can type these directly or access them from the editor toolbar (The small square with the pyramids in)

Recheck in preview and then post.

HTH

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Whatever

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OK now things are getting properly stupid. I'm starting to see Facebook campaigns for "3 months of no council tax", "3 months off from paying car tax", and the best one so far, "No VAT for 3 months".

It goes some way to confirm my belief that when a government tries to help people, there will always be plenty who are only too ready to chance their luck for a freebie.

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I think it's a good idea. It should show NHS staff & carers that we appreciate them and help people on their own in isolation feel less isolated.

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:tu:

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For every freeloader, every selfish hoarder or profiteer there's someone else doing something good for society, there stories are being lost in the maelstrom at the moment but the longer this goes on the more they'll surface, the people shopping for the elderly, bosses keeping pepple in work out of their own pockets, carers going above and beyond, volunteers delivering medical supplies and the thousands of retired NHS staff coming out of retirement to help out, I'd rather dwell on these people than the **** of the earth. Besides which we'll get our own back on the freeloaders, hoarders and profiteers as this isn't going to last forever but the stain on their characters in their communities just might.

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Pointless virtue signalling.

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It’s already got into people’s heads that they are now entitled to 3 months off work paid!

Which is not the case.

You can still go out, and work. As long as you distance yourself and follow hygiene rules.

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Pointless cynicism - if it makes people feel good in a time of stress, and show NHS (and other public service) staff that they are appreciated, who is it hurting?

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:clap::clap::clap:

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I think a more effective way to show NHS workers how much we appreciate their work is to not give them any hassle should we need them - when I was at Morriston hospital on Friday a nurse told me some people waiting for non-urgent appointments etc were getting pretty arsey towards them - and once all this has passed, unanimously pushing the government for a far more generous pay rise as well as reminding Boris of how his government decimated the NHS over the past 10 years when it comes to election time.

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The more people go on about showing support, the more people feel down when it isn't shown, whereas without any discussion they may not of thought about it either way.


Too many people in the media raising unnecessary issues and giving ready-made excuses for people's behaviour. Eg "We're social animals therefore gathering together is a must". Eg There was a documentary about wildlife around Wales. The rabbits isolated on an island didn't have the required resources to maintain reproducing at their normal rate. They reduced that rate in response to that. If they could behave themselves, why can't humans?:rolleyes:

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No one, it’s just pointless

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The trouble is with limiting items is this.


My sister was buying food for 3 people so only bought what she wanted. but the checkout person said a two item limit.

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Another thing I'm finding very frustrating is how the WHO and similar seem to be worried about "stigmatising" the Chinese in this.

People are ill and dying, now is not the time to be concerned about political correctness.

I am not suggesting we ought to be hostile in any way to Chinese people, that would be ridiculous.

But we must never ever allow ourselves to forget what their "culture" (which it appears we are told is behind this) caused the world to go through.

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How long before the government insist that holiday parks close??

The selfish top box brigade are arriving in droves with no thought for the residents down here.

Bog off home grockles you aint wanted here. :mad::td::upyours::upyours:

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Maybe the local shops should refuse to serve non locals. They'll soon starve and run home.

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On a lighter note......

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/03/7.jpg

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We know a few medics (GPs, nurses, hospital staff such as anaesthetists/A&E staff), who liked the sentiment, so, if you don’t mind, I’ll take their opinion over yours... ;)

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Bear with me.

Currently my is seriously ill in our local hospital.

I was up at 6am on Wednesday, that night she had no feeling from the knees down.


We had to call 999, and all they kept asking about was Covid-19 symptons, in A&E i had to call my sister at 6am she came and I was in bed by 8am, 9am my sister phoned me in tears, her o2 levels had plummeted to 50.


I raced to the hospital, and we where advised to get family to see her, so I raced home again got my dad up there, luckily a disabled bay was free.

My sister got my nephew and niece, she burst in to tears. My sister made them take me home and I got into bed after 38 hours.

While there I had to take my dad home, and in the car park 3 helipcopters did a tough and go.

Then the A&E ward my mum was on was moved, they have basically closed a part of the hospital ready for Covid-19.

She has a 50/50 chance at the moment.

I cannot praise the NHS enough, even more so when the shelfs are empty.

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So sorry to hear about your Mum. I hope she pulls through and you can get her home as soon as possible.

Hugs, Jo

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Talking to an old friend on the blower this morning and he's currently on oxygen at home for a lung condition after a stay in hospital. He's dreading getting this from one of his carers.

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I wasn’t in search of your approval or seeking your agreement.

I’m looking forward to similar campaigns for warehouse staff, shelf stackers, HGV drivers, post workers, communication engineers, and basically anyone working through this crisis ensuring the country doesn’t stop.

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Very true, i've been moved by everything from seeing examples of young lads shopping for older people to young mothers swapping items to help each other through.

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I created a thread suggesting loyalty cards could deal with this but, sadly, it looks like a non starter.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33708847

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Aye, eating bats ugghh. We are told that we are supposed to respect all other cultures, but some I find just just intolerable.

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I wish you all the best in this awful situation. Anyone who thinks that it's pointless virtue signalling to show our gratitude for NHS staff and carers who may be putting their own lives at risk to help us knows how important this initiative is.

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The problem is, people *are* being hostile to the Chinese as a result of this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...virus_pandemic. Hostility, in a lot of cases, involving violence.

I'm not defending the Chinese. I have little doubt that their practices helped this virus spread to Humans, and while they are sharing data now, there is apparently some concern that they didn't share it quick enough. But I do think it wrong to blame invidividual people who may, or may not, have anything to do with it.

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I was sent a text a few weeks back by someone who was slightly worried that they were sitting next to Chinese people in a restaurant. I pointed out at that point they were far more at risk from people who had spent a romantic weekend in Northern Italy.

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Major new measures to protect people at highest risk from Coronavirus.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...om-coronavirus

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It's a bit of a surprise that 1.5m people are in those groups, especially as most of those conditions tend not to appear in the young, eg severe COPD.

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Absolutely, nobody should blame individuals. However as it seems to have been a "cultural" issue people are too scared to address the issue and that is very wrong.

I cannot stand Trump but he's absolutely right to refer to it as the "Chinese virus".

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Well there's not a "the corona virus", as there's been more than one. If he'd referred to "Covid-19", would anybody have known what he was talking about? Nobody fusses over referring to "Spanish Flu".

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Nobody fusses over the Spanish flu because there’s little point renaming something 100 years later. Trump is actively calling this something that it isn’t to dog whistle it his supporters, and while there is more than one coronavirus unless you are in a specific scientific community there’s a 100% chance you mean the one killing tens of thousands of people right now.

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Complete and utter madness IMO.:banghead::banghead:

https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news...ional-17962039

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nor...icter-17961170

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I think Chris said it best, Den.

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Most definitely as l do despair that many are just not getting the message or have just wilfully chosen to ignore it.

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Not a care for those like my Sister in Law & her daughter who are Chinese, but have not set foot in China for a decade or more.

Words matter.

Coronavirus covers things like the common cold, yet Corona Beer sales dropped drastically.

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As I said a few pages ago this us what worries me, there are a lot of stupid 'we know better'people in this country. Street markets in London rammed full of people too. Just because China has managed to control this, we shouldn't assume we will, totally different cultures. They respect authority, we don't.

Boris needs to ditch his libertarian principles and start insisting rather than asking. Lockdown time should have been a week ago, particularly in London.

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At least the argument could go "I asked nicely before, but you all ignored it, so this what is going to happen". Would the British police enforce it the same way as those in France, or armed soldiers in Italy?

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As of 9am on Sunday, there were 5,683 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK.

And 281 patients in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus have died.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...emand-11961884

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The British police lack the manpower. Italy and Spain have almost double the police numbers and lower populations.

We will have the army on the streets.