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Brazen about-face by Trump in TPP policy rethink
A sensible decision if Trump is serious about standing up to China. Obama designed TTP as an economic defence against a rising China. The cent seems to finally have dropped with Trump, against a background of his failure to deliver a bilateral deal with countries like Japan and growing anger from the agricultural community that they have both been denied major new markets and that they will be in the firing line for reciprocal tariffs from China.
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However, as for the crime, he has not been charged with anything yet so we don't actually know if he has committed a Federal crime or State crime. At the end of the day, the witch hunt started by biased and corrupt individuals to attempt a coup against the duly elected President of the United States, is being slowly unpicked and the perpetrators weeded out. (Comey, McCabe, certainly appearing to look like bent cops, appearing to be propped up by Crooked Hillary and DNC, who paid for the dossier with information said to be from Russians, that's the real collusion). What is it Mueller is actually investigating now, huh? No evidence of Russian collusion, collusion itself is not actually a crime... It needs to be shut down, it's a rogue investigation with the lead prosecutor (Mueller) on a fishing expedition. We're learning this weekend, from Comey's new book, about making a judgement on the Crooked Hillary investigation weeks before the election and deciding on whether to hold back on making an announcement. Because he felt she was going to win (Thank heavens she didn't), he decided to announce just weeks before November 8th that the FBI was re-opening the Clinton email investigation, he said he couldn't wait on it after this date, because if she would have been elected, he said she would have been illegitimate. IMO that's abuse of power, if a crime investigation is being re-opened, you don't ponder to sit on something. Of course we know what happened and he decided not to wait, but the fact he was pondering on it depending on the polls, suggests is reasoning is very questionable being responsible for the FBI. In his new book he has also thrown former Attorney General, Loretta Lynch under the bus, by suggesting there is yet, an undisclosed, still classified piece of information on Lynch that suggests it is quite the scandal, that the American people are not yet aware of. Wonder if it is something to do with meeting Bill Clinton on the back of a plane, while it sat on the tarmac in Phoenix just days before the FBI were due to announce the end of the Clinton email investigation..... the so called official reasoning being....that they are discussing the grandkids for 40 minutes. Yeah sure. BOLLOCKS, I say! :rolleyes: |
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It’s amazing that all these Republicans who were nominated by Trump, or by people nominated by people Trump gave positions to, are all conspiring against Trump...
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Mueller has nothing on collusion, this is why he is now "squeezing' Cohen to get him to cooperate and dish the dirt on Trump. If there is any to dish. The entire witch hunt needs to be shut down, it is a fraudulent investigation, set up by bent officials in the DoJ and FBI, who clearly think they are above the law, think they can mislead a FISA court to spy on Americans, mainly Carter Page, but more crucially, Trump and his transition team. Totally ILLEGAL!! |
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Mueller was appointed in part because of the amount of leaks from the FBI making their investigation untenable. Now that Mueller’s investigation is isn’t telling everyone what is happening it must be because he isn’t doing anything?
If he has nothing then there is no risk to Trump. We know stuff is happening because from time to time he pops up with charges for someone such as the Russians that were implicated . Mueller also is investigating Russian interference and anything relating to it. |
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Looks like the fired employee has an axe to grind, fellow law enforcement, particulary on CNN of all places said Comey was a "Feckless leader."
Comey didn't hold back on President Obama as well, said he acted inappropriately on two occasions when he spoke publicly and took it upon himself to exonerate Hillary Clinton, saying there was nothing to the allegations, Comey said it was inappropriate because there was an active criminal investigation on Hillary that had not yet been concluded, he was concerned that FBI investigators could be "shaped" in to holding out on the Presidents words. ---------- Post added at 14:27 ---------- Previous post was at 14:11 ---------- Here is the clip.... CNN Throw Down: Gagliano Torches Stelter’s Lionization of ‘Feckless Leader’ Comey https://www.cnsnews.com/video/cnn-th...s-leader-comey |
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Are we sure this not an attempt by Russia to misinform.
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The most recommended comment in today's FT makes an incisive point.
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Not illegal. Just interesting.
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A comment is such a comment, not fake news.
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None of those showed up on my google search. Either way, perhaps Nikki spoke out of step. Not her role to decide on Sanctions. That’s up to the U.S government. We will see what happens down the line. Not that Sanctions really work.
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Interesting piece about James Comey by the BBC's North American editor Jon Soppel who has read the book and watched the interviews. He concludes that Comey is still a threat as Trump has been unable to prove him a liar. And Trump's poor record on the truth front won't make this task easy.
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Comey has his signature on a dodgy FISA Application. He leaked his Classified memos to the press. Comey should have a lot to worry about, legally, so is not walking tall, IMO and even more so as fellow law enforcement officials come out against his stance and book writing.
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Sanctions may not have stopped all of Russia's games but they have severely limited them and nearly month on month the defence budget is revised downward with some new equipment orders placed on hold. Further sanctions will tighten the economic noose even further possibly to the point that Putin won't be able to hide them from the Russian people and may start to cut into his budget for nuclear rearmament which is about the only thing keeping him at most serious tables.
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Putin has already amassed a sizeable wealth. Further sanctions won’t do a thing. I guarantee it. Past Sanctions have not stopped any if their games, in fact they are increasing their hostilities, increased cyber attacks. The attempted murder on British soil, using Nerve Agent. Flying warplanes near to or approaching British airspace....
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So the hope is sanctions cause him enough trouble with some of these people that for his own self-preservation he has cede some compromise. There is a good, quick, BBC overview of the factions that make up Russia's ruling elite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXQ3O9urYMc At the very least the sanctions mean he has to annoy some people domestically, they offer some resistance and political cost to him. At the end of the day it's really the only tool we have since we're not going to invade. |
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Mick continued sanctions are hurting Russia's military yes they have vast stockpiles of obselete equipment and of their current ground forces only flagship Putin supporting formations have anywhere near full combat capability much of their military equipment is rotting away from a lack of spare parts and trained personnel to install them. This is being repeated within their air force and navy and the longer sanctions go on the less money there is to remedy the situation as much as 50% of Russia's nuclear arsenal is not oprationally capable of course the remaining 50% is sufficient but the degradation is ongoing and as that situation worsens so we see more aggressive rhetoric and increased cyber attacks as that's relatively cheap to continue.
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Trump has criticised Putin once - he’s criticised serving members of his own staff and Cabinet more. The closest Trump has come to criticising Putin before was more than a year ago, in an interview, when Trump said “And frankly, Putin is backing a person that's truly an evil person." (talking about Assad after a previous chemical weapons attack). Of course, if you have links to where Trump has personally criticised Trump (other than the two instances I’ve mentioned), more than happy to admit I’m wrong. |
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I think I got your point. You go on about him not criticising Putin because of your very obvious hate for the man, and that's fine to hate him - I hate Crooked Hillary for the potential crimes she has committed and it appears she has appeared so far to get away with them. That said, I see no criticisms on Corbyn by you, who has not even once called out Putin by name and still refuses to do so. You say Trump has called out on Putin once, it's bloody more times than the leader of the opposition IN this Country has. |
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I don't hate Trump, I hate what he's doing to a country that I admire very much, and how he is abusing his power and the office of the President - he acts like a spoilt 10 year old when he is the leader of the free world and the most powerful nation on earth. I dislike him because he hasn't criticised Putin, the leader of the country which has been trying to undermine democracy in the USA (and other places), as unanimously confirmed by all his Intelligence Community agencies, but criticises everyone else.
I think Corbyn is great - he's the main reason the Tories stayed in power; if Labour had a decent leader, they may have won the last election (so I am hoping he stays Leader); also, Corbyn is completely in the wrong not condeming Putin. As for the statement "I see no criticisms of Corbyn by you", here you go... https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...n#post35942417 Quote:
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Compared to how often Trump hits out at other people Mick it's a valid point he seems to only hit out at Putin when he really has too rather then as much as Putin deserves given what is happening on his orders. I was happy when Trump won i honestly thought it would be the start of a rebalance badly needed in western politics and that he would grow into the position of president. While he hasn't been a total disaster as a president yet he hasn't been what many hoped he would be and the way he acts on social media is not presidential.
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Trump needs to get a grip on things this has done nothing but cause embarrassment and reflects poorly on the U.S and its credibility this sort of thing should not be happening and i think Haley is entitled to know who changed the policy.
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What would be the point of re-investigating if it was already proved there was nothing crooked or criminal going on? Or any evidence that the investigation was flawed?
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There is a massive big investigation in to "Inconsiderations", that took place during that investigation of Secretary Clinton and the investigator, investigating the investigators is the U.S Office of Inspector General, who started his investigation in January 2017. BREAKING: 11 members of Congress have MADE criminal referrals to AG Jeff Sessions, FBI Director Chris Wray, and US Attorney John Huber to conduct a criminal investigation of the following individuals: -James Comey (Former Director of the FBI) -Hillary Clinton (Former Secretary of State) -Loretta Lynch (Former U.S Attorney General) -Andrew McCabe (Former Deputy Director FBI) -Peter Strzok (FBI CounterIntelligence Agent) -Lisa Page (FBI Counsel) Criminal Referral Page 1 https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1524082924 |
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What ever happened to the criminal referral for Christopher Steel?
It's a bizarre system that let's politicians refer people for investigation especially when they may be politically motivated. The whole point should be that these systems are separate. At the moment there seems to be a move from a minority of Republican congressmen to fire and shut down investigations into Trump, including the New York one, and start an investigation into Clinton and other Trump critics. It's bordering on tin-pot dictator stuff when politicians dictate who gets investigated and whose doesn't. If there is evidence then hand it over to the proper authorities and let them do it. It's vital these things are separate. |
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11 Republican members of Congress - quelle surprise?
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I really think the best thing would be to let all the multitude of investigations complete without politicians weighing in all the time. It's mental.
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You claim these Congressman are being political, well you and Hugh are doing the exact same thing, Trump must be investigated but never Hillary, she is not above the law and needs to be held to account and properly investigated, not investigated in a shoddy way like prior investigations clearly have been. Alas, the only justification that I take with great pleasure is Hillary's monumental loss, especially where there is strong indicators of cheating and yet she cannot win an election, even after all the cheating.... ---------- Post added at 23:15 ---------- Previous post was at 23:10 ---------- Quote:
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Talking about Bengazi.
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There are a lot of questions that should have been asked and answered and weren't regarding Benghazi and hillary clinton has some of those but given the cheating she was a part of during the last presidential election I don't understand how an investigation into Trump is ongoing but not one into her conduct. Both the department of justice and the F.B.I need a thorough examination and if need be restructuring to prevent the level of bias there has been in the past happening again.
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I have never said there should not be an investigation of Trump, I have said the investigation that has been ongoing for a long time has turned up nothing and now needs to be shut down, there is that difference. Robert Mueller clearly has nothing on Trump, he revealed two weeks ago Trump was not under any criminal investigation. He is now on a fishing expedition, going after Cohen, to squeeze him, to flip him. ---------- Post added at 09:00 ---------- Previous post was at 08:59 ---------- Quote:
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I think the last few years have shown that there are deep disturbing aspects to the U.S political system and it doesn't matter whose running for president those aspects come into play as a matter of course. The same could be said about many western political systems there is a completely hidden layer that has far too much influence on something it shouldn't. Democracy is a wonderful ideal but more and more i wonder if it truly exists anymore as so many forces work to alter the perception of voters and seem to dictate to our elected representatives what they will do.
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BREAKING: Justice Dept. watchdog sends Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe findings to federal prosecutors for possible charges
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BREAKING: U.S Department of Justice have released the former FBI Director James Comey Memos of alleged conversations that he said he had with President Trump to Congress.
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Democrats are hilarious. News coming out from the U.S this afternoon that the Democratic Party have filed a lawsuit against Russia, Wikileaks and Trump Campaign because they say they all colluded to help Trump win the election.
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Perhaps he shouldn’t have lied to the Vice-President and the FBI, then he wouldn’t have had any legal bills.
btw, they don’t - they confirm everything Comey said previously, about Trump’s obsession with personal loyalty and the pressure put in him to drop the Flynn investigation. The so-called ‘vindication’ is that Comey never stated in the memos that he felt obstructed or threatened, or that he felt obstructed in his investigation. The obstruction question turns on what happened after this, which is that Trump fired Comey. These memos confirm the level of acquiescence that Trump wanted but did not get from Comey before firing him, and go further than before in supplying Trump’s likely motive for the firing. In Trump’s own words “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” The memos confirm that Trump did try to exert a level of control over his FBI director, and over an ongoing investigation into his and his circles’ conduct, that is completely at odds with normal behaviours dictating that law enforcement should be free of presidential interference. |
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There is no obstruction of justice, in the memos themselves, Trump asks for the Russia investigation to continue around his associates, that is not obstructing justice, Comey testified last year that he did not take the words Trump said as a direct order to let Flynn go, that's if Trump said that and as Devin Nunes points out, Comey never mentioned once he felt pressured or felt justice was being obstructed. There is plenty of things Comey should have done, but didn't because he had poor judgement, he said McCabe was an honourable guy, we know this is bollocks, given the IG report just out that he lied, several times under Oath and lacked Candor, how the hell can that be traits of an honourable guy, what utter BS. As fellow Law enforcement employees have suggested, the minute Comey felt pressured he should have resigned his post immediately, like Senators asked Comey, during his testimony last year, why didn't he approach White House Counsel, or Chief of Staff and say, it's not appropriate for me to be alone with the President? He didn't, he also kept the information from the Trump that the fake Russian dossier was funded by his loser opponent and her campaign team and the DNC. He also would not reveal Trump himself was not under investigation and that this was the cloud Trump wanted clearing, Comey refused, so Trump Fired him and he had the Constitutional Authority to do so. It is NOT obstruction of justice, so I repeat the memos vindicate Trump. Here is a recent interview with Comey on CNN with Jake Tapper, it's one of the better interviews out there to say this was CNN, Comey was asked if he hated Trump, Comey said he definitely doesn't hate him. Comey says in his view Trump is the legitimate President of the United States but does not rate his values and up to his firing, had not seen any evidence Russians had compromising material on Trump... |
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Trumpers is coming to the UK on the 13th July
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I got a better idea, let’s take the Nobel Peace prize off President Obama and give it to Trump, he was given one in 2009, less than a year in office, what the hell did he do to deserve that?
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Nothing in in the headline supports the view...Stop taking the piss Hugh. You are wrong yet again.
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The Doctor signed the letter and only now says it’s not his words. Another pathetic smear attempt. Plus....Reported on Fake News CNN. :zzz:
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