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BREAKING: Source close to Mike Ashley: "It is only right to let the fans know that there is no deal on the table or even under discussion with Amanda Staveley and PCP. Attempts to reach a deal have proved to be exhausting, frustrating and a complete waste of time.

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Talks between Mike Ashley & Amanda Staveley have broken down.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport...-live-14159050

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It's a story spun from the Ashley camp it seems. Nothing has changed, there was never a deal for it to be off. PCP claim their initial bids stand and have had no rejection from anyone affiliated with Newcastle United. This is the first they've heard of any walking away claims.

One can only assume if its legitimate its an attempt to panic them into increasing and hurrying the bid.

However, a childish and amateur like stance like this may legitimately get PCP to pull the plug on the absolute idiot that is Mike Ashley. He'll be the one looking stupid if they do and he has 50,000 fans on his back again.

As expected, Staveley is bemused and I'd bet quite annoyed by this. If this was a gamble from fat Mike I'm guessing he's failed miserably. Expecting this story to blow up further in the morning and not in a good way for Newcastle fans.

Reports now that Staveley isn't walking away and the original sky report is cack basically.

Getting ridiculous now, fans deserve to know what's going on.

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Big smile on Delia's face.:D

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This ref is certainly not a Chelsea fan. :shocked:

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Oh dear, sources inside Liverpool have allegedly labelled Amanda Staveley a glorified tyre kicker :D alongside further leaks of her investors basically being left in the dark about what she's been doing over the past few months. It's starting to look like Newcastle United have actually dodged a massive bullet here with stories appearing about the people behind her investment and her actual plan being to own the club herself, something which just doesn't seem feasible.

It appears Mike Ashley might actually be right :erm:

Guess we'll head back to selling ourselves to the chinese then :confused:

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He lost the plot in the end.:td:

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Deal on. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/42741969

Emerging reports that Mike Ashley himself or an associate drunk called Sky the other night. If true that's absolutely dire and up there amongst the most unprofessional things he's done.

How on earth these two parties could possibly strike a deal is beyond me. But I can imagine she's absolutely dying to throw the £300m at him whilst telling him where to go.

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Well John Moss is making up for it, Brighton should have had at least one pen so far.

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The worse ref in the Premiership IMO..:td:

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Is goal difference worth just sitting back and watching Man City play by themselves?

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If they open themselves up they will get hammered one suspects.

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They've only went and scored :erm:

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Murphy took that really well.

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You never know City might have another aberration if you cheer and shout loud enough.;)

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And number eight bites the dust. :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42765881

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Pathetic..:(:td:

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It’s 17C and sunny in Madrid and Bale is wearing gloves, what a wuzz. :(

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Well those talented South Americans do it all the time Jim.:)

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This is a boy from Cardiff not S America. :rolleyes:

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But being in Spain these last 5 years he is more used to those temperatures in the hot 40's.

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Interested in Julian’s views on Lemina, all he seems to do is give the ball away every other pass and shoot from hopelessly far out, usually off target as well.

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He is very frustrating Jim. Like Tadic and Boufal.

That final ball always seems to go adrift. Or they try and keep possession for too long.

Overall I'm pleased with the point in a game we could have easily won.

Spurs committed twice as many fouls as us probably because we wouldn't let them play.

I'll draw some positives from the performance but there is still much work to do and time is running out.......

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I thought Tadic played well today, that cross near the end should have been scored easily by the youngster. What happened to the “two footed player”. The number of times when the ball is coming in at pace they try and strike it with the foot on that side. If he had gone with his left foot he would have burst the net.

I thought you just about shaded it today, need to start winning a few of these games though.

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They make us look patient...

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If only Cloughie could give Forest some wise advice.:)

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I'm sure Nigel will be available anytime to take their call...

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Sad news, always came across as a really nice bloke.:(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42775098

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Yes listening to radio sometimes he always came across as a nice knowledgeable bloke.:(

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Arsenal forward joins Man Utd in swap with Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42697836

l wonder what Jims thoughts are on this?.

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Not a fan of transfer windows at any time of year, that said he is a top class player, just not worth the ridiculous amounts he is ‘reported”to be going to get.

An opportunity to sign a player like him doesn’t come up that often and I think that it will be a good move for Henrikh Mkhitaryan as well.

He was good early on but has really lost his way this season, easy to blame José for that but he has had chances in recent games and been pretty poor TBH.

His style may suit Arsenal better and I honestly wish him well.

Of all the current squad at United I would suspect that Juan Mata may be most under threat from Sanchez.

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If Arsenal can get Aubameyang then Walcott & Sanchez for Aubameyang & Mkhitaryan is a decent window for Arsenal too. Especially giving the state of us going into the window. Also means the job in the Summer is less severe.

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Yes if Arsenal can get Aubameyang he has a very good scoring record for Dortmund and would certainly do well in the Premiership.

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What worries me about Sanchez and Aubameyang for that matter is the way they let their performances suffer when possible transfers come up and don’t materialise immediately.

Contrast that with say DeGea or even Ronaldo when they missed out on transfers to Real Madrid. Granted Fergie promised CR7 he could go later but they both still played to their absolute best in every game afterwards.

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So did Shinji Kagawa and Henrikh Mkhitaryan.;)

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Sadly Jim we are dealing with agents who use a lot of players to their own big financial ends now as they tend to turn many players heads.

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Mourinho did not seem to fancy Mkhitaryan as l hardly gave him a fair run IMO.

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Jose is wise enough to spot when a player is lacking that little ‘something ‘ that marks out a player who can handle the rigours of the Premiership, Sanchez is certainly one who can but I’m not sure that Mkhitaryan is or ever will be. He is knocked off the ball or dispossessed far too easily for me, Kagawa was exactly the same.

Jose treated Luke Shaw in just the same way and up to now he has shown real bottle in getting his head down and fighting to prove himself.

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Nice little knock down from Virgil V D there.:D

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Just lucky IMO.:(

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Talking about Jose, wasn’t he manager at Chelsea when Lukaka, Salah and De Bruyne departed :D

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Indeed he was but your Giants of the football world welcomed him with open arms and warm embraces.:D

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Swansea remain rock bottom but two 5-0 wins would get them up to tenth. :shocked:

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He also has a habit of freezing players out or just selling them. Kevin de Bruyne, Salah and Lukaku are all players he didn't rate and/or let go. Mata too.

I am not sure about Mkhitaryan either but Mourinho's view of players is unpredictable. I don't he has shown a particular talent for spotting which of his young players are worth keeping, or much interest in younger players at all, or for hidden gems. Sanchez is a obvious buy.

Mkhitaryan did well at Dortmund. Hopefully Arsenal get something out of him. I am not too bothered that United let him go though.

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Disappointing last night but not unexpected sadly.:(

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Interesting one after Newcastle secure the loan of Kenedy for the remainder of the season, they've now launched a £20m bid for a striker they won't reveal the identity of and are running with ''Less competition'' as the reason. Wagering they just can't get him over that line they keep quoting after every failed window though :erm:

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Well they have to pay for it somehow. :(

I would want a suit for that money.:D

AS7

Didn't even know they had a Home/Away/Third shirt and a Home/Away/Third cup shirt.:shocked:

A real bargain to be had..HERE ;)

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All you need now is to make another 10 then you will have a full team of 11.:D

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Newcastle reject bid for Mitrovic. Won't entertain offers that don't come close to the £15m mark. Could likely see Newcastle head for a £35m striker if Mitrovic is offloaded. As it stands though Newcastle are still in talks with a forward regarding a £20m move and it's driving the Internet crazy with its secrecy.

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It's Nicholi Jorgenson of Feyenoord, apparently...

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Seen last night. Glad it's not Berahino again :D
Its thought they're wanting more than £20 million though. Then the added fact of signing a striker from. The Dutch league is a hell of a risk. Jozy Altidore...

Then there's also the the likely hood of the takeover concluding after survival is guaranteed and whether these same players are going to be offloaded ASAP.

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Brighton launch £15m bid for Mitrovic as Newcastle now eye up Andre Schurrle as well as Jorgensen, the latter has no expressed that he'd like to join Newcastle. I still believe Mitrovic has it, just not in a Benitez team. I'd have thought West Ham would have had a look, or may yet still have a look as it's expected Newcastle will settle with what they paid, £15m.

These signings and the roll of the dice for Ashley is a statement off intent to stave of relegation and for Ashley to then be in a better position to negotiate the expected PCP takeover bid when Staveley launches round 2 if we stay up.

Edit: Just noticed Newcastle rejected an £8m bid for Mitrovic from Brighton earlier in the day. Source now says they've come back with £15m. Despite that, Newcastle have also said they won't sell to a relegation rival and Mitrovic would prefer a move back to Belgium. Brighton are now awaiting a response. Should hit mainstream news sources when it's accepted or rejected. Would be pretty hilarious if they accept, 6 hours after the statement above.

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Lets hope this manager makes a full recovery.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...sser-taken-ill

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And that miss probably explains why Nouble has had 17 different clubs.:(

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What's the likely ban length for the spitting incident in Wigan v West Ham I wonder.....

Straight red given and rightly so.

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Leeds player got a six game ban recently.

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8 matches l reckon.

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VAR is playing well tonight...

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Lets hope they adopt it in the Premiership.

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Or to put it another way, let's hope they don't

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The thing is that rather than arguing about contentious decisions after the match, the argument is whether VAR is a good thing.

I'd say it's clearly working.

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Exactly Julian.:tu:

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People are taking about VAR more than the match, the crowd stand there completely in the dark and it is going to be over used very soon.

You would say that, VAR was liverpools best player yesterday, without him they'd have been another goal down and Bobby firmino would never have been given the chance to miss that penalty

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Liverpool are pretty irrelevant on the matter of VAR as whatever decisions it makes even if it affect the sides l follow l support it one hundred per cent unequivocally.

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Of course it wouldn't perhaps be necessary if there wasn't cheating and dishonesty in matches.......

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But there are genuine mistakes made by the officials that have proved costly in the past.

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The list of important mistakes is pretty endless.

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Four minutes to make a decision is ridiculous, fans in the stadium have no way of knowing what's going on, the ref is constantly undermined by a mob of players demanding he 'go to VAR' and finally on decisions of interpretation VAR should play no part at all, like lanzini diving, one panel (disciplinary) decided he dived another (Sky) decided he didn't, it's not unthinkable to envisage similar with VAR, if we're not careful it's going to get out of hand, of course these could be teething problems and imo limited use might improve the game but don't bank on it

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And VAR is catching up

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...tus-goal-stand

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ng-player.html

Perhaps VAR needs an assistant to :rolleyes:

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VAR is still in the early stages. You can display the video on screen so people know what's happening and work out the optimal times to use it and how to judge it.

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Many sports have eventually benefited for the introduction of Technology, Tennis, Rugby and Cricket. Football is going in the right direction but the process in which the VAR is used and operated needs a lot of work.

They need to stop the players talking to the ref when there's a VAR incident, the talking slows the process down

They need to somehow make the VAR process transparent for the crowd 3 or 4 minutes where the crowd doesn't know what's going on is no good for the game.

They need to add the minutes taken up by the use of the VAR to the end of each half.


If the VAR stops players diving and shirt pulling I'm all for it

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FA cup draw made and the blatant "seeding" continues.

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How much did Liverpool pay for a bench warmer, £75,000. :shocked:

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Its not a 11 man game nowadays Jim..

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Err, yeh right.:rolleyes:

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l think you know my meaning but you are being typically mischievous.;)

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Islam Slimani has actually arrived in Newcastle unlike Daniel Sturridge who ended up at West Brom. Feel like we've dodged a bullet with both Sturridge and Ings. Sturridge I'd have tried out I guess. A loan is still a massive risk when these players are likely key to survival. Ings is far too much of a gamble. Slimani will be out for just over a week or so but it's the right move barring a permanent move for Jorgenson which seems like a lot of money to spend for a club that'll likely be revamped in the summer should they survive and conclude being taken over.

Martin Dubravka is also en route to Newcastle.

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Just announced that Man City defence spending exceeds 75% of countries worldwide.

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Spurs score the 2nd fastest goal in Premiership history 10.48 seconds.


They hold also hold the record 9.5 seconds

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Possibly the quickest goal at Wembley

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Oh dear Jim won't be happy one suspects as he was just settling down to watch another 5 star performance.;)

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Spurs played well but a very strange performance from United when not a single player had a half decent game?

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Just got home from Old Trafford in time to see Arsenal’s 4th goal, how on earth did the linesman miss that offside, a strong argument in favour of VAR if ever I saw one? :(

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And that is why you need VAR...:mad:

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Can see Lamela getting a ban for diving tomorrow. He's barely touched Lamela there, he's pulling out of it and Lamela throws himself at him, there's shielding the ball and there's that..

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I think most of us would have collapsed if Van Dyck had whacked us in the back of the leg like that. A good game for us neutrals. Don’t rate John Moss but one way or another they arrived at the correct decisions IMHO.

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The officials in my opinion are just not good enough to make these important decisions on their own..

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VAR is a total waste of time. If they cannot rely on the standard of referees. Then they shouldn't be there.

We have seen in recent games where they have used VAR. And the time wasted by using it.

We have cameras for touchline tech. All we have is another company joining the bandwagon.

What's the point of the camera's if you now have VAR

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Read up on it more.

VAR is a fifth referee watching a display using existing cameras at PL grounds. They're literally using the cameras available at PL stadiums, that's why they haven't been seen in use in anything lower than the Premier League. There's no outside company. It's a standard fifth referee watching raw feeds from all available cameras.

The main gripe with it, is that it only shows raw feeds, no replays, rendering the entire idea of it a bit pointless. All the fifth referee gets is a slightly improved view at times, his decision making can still be bollocks.

The media and others have hyped it up like it's some form of Hawk-Eye system. It's literally a TV screen and a referee.

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Winter break under discussion before new TV deal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42954835

Long overdue IMO.

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Finally. I think the final round of games before the break should be New Years Eve tbh.

But if they do this they need to do it a way that doesn't increase the fixture congestion. Packing even more games into the remaining time won't work. It's already crazy around Christmas time with teams playing to three times in a week.

I think they would need to either lengthen the season or take teams in Europe out of the League Cup and maybe abolish FA Cup replays.

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The trouble in lengthening the season is it impinges on the summer tournaments like the World cup , etc , etc so your second idea is far more preferable.

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Arsenal have confirmed I have a League Cup Final Ticket. Wembley here I come.

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Excellent :tu: although you better wrap up warm as it can be very very cold at Wembley in late February.

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Hopefully it's a nice day. First year with a season ticket so it's also my first cup final.

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My late friend went to see his team Bradford in the League cup final and sadly they lost 5-0 and he said that day it felt like minus 3 as there was a severe wind chill whistling across the stadium.

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Just watched the 60th anniversary memorial service from Old Trafford on MUTV, very moving. :(

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Having that mid winter break is all well and good, as long as the 'big' teams don't use it as an excuse to go swanning off to warmer climes and play in some cleverly arranged money grabbing 'winter' cup competition.

I think we all know which clubs would participate if given half a chance.

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It was a very nice day last year when Julians team and mine battled it out at Wembley. :)

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Well at a guess every single team in the league. :p:

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l give you three guesses Sir.;)

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Yes it was a long time at the bar without a drink Jim.;):D

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With yours at the top of it...;)

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:confused: Twas my third visit to Wembley in 12 months. :p:

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Reading some interesting information about Old Trafford just now this little gem caught my eye.

In the space of a year, the stadium set two attendance records – 70,504 was the largest pre-war crowd at Old Trafford for a United league match (Aston Villa on 27 December 1920) while the lowest attendance of 13 saw Stockport County play Leicester City in 1921, in a game moved from Edgeley Park which was closed due to crowd trouble.

Seems like unruly crowds are not a recent phenomenon after all.:shocked:

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Whooot, one of my other teams have an easy home game in the next round of the FA Cup, Newport should be easy.:D

Up the Dale.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ollie_Dav...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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You must support every club in Lancashire then Jim.:D

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Nope, just the Reds, the Dale and the Latics. :cool:

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The ghost of Phil Jones strikes again for Spurs.:)

Good to see Cliff Jones looking so well.:o:

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Guess you guys deserve a cup final this year anyway :D #4-2