Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35954579)

Very smooth final so far on UHD lag time is down to around 50 seconds now

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35954493)

iPlayer UHD buffering today @ 7.15pm on V6 and tv app, plus sound loss on V6. This is on Virgin 350MB.

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35954591)

I think the BBC servers were hit - some people couldn't even get iPlater to load.

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35957260)

Bt sport 4k uhd channel now on channel 555

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35957309)

Really just looks like HD to me I recored the football match earlier it only went up by 2 points so didn't take much of space when recorded

Originally Posted by mot12 (Post 35957333)

Really. I can see the difference much better clarity, sharpness, detail, and motion. Make sure your V6 video settings are correct and your TV settings for example have any noise reduction settings turned off.

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35957336)

I'm sure if you have a UHD tv you would see the difference.

I haven't, but thought down scaled UHD might produce a better picture than HD - will continue to experiment.

I am also interested in the amount of space taken up by UHD recordings compared to the HD equivalent - hence my test recordings (not actually interested in the hockey)

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35957385)

Interesting to learn that even those without a 4k TV are better off using UHD channels when available.

It will take up more recording capacity, so that's worth bearing in mind if space is running low!

Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 35957823)

Is BT 4k in HDR?

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35957826)

No it's not. None of the 4k stations are HDR.

Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 35957827)

Ah ok, how about Sky Sports UHD?

Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 35957827)

Ah ok, how about Sky Sports UHD?

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35957833)

Anyone else getting occasional sound dropouts on BT Sport 4K?

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35957830)

No broadcast or On Demand 4k is HDR.

I think it's due to there not being a set standard for it yet.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35957836)

If you are, report it to Customer Services. Not much we can do about it here, I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35957848)

I'd say there's quite a bit we can do about it. I'd also be interested to know if anybody else is also having the same problem.

Gavin: Try changing the Dolby setting on the V6. That's always a good start for any audio problem.

If that doesn't resolve it, some questions...
How do you get your sound? Is it just HDMI straight from V6 to TV, with sound coming out of TV speakers, or something more complex (like an amp or soundbar)?
Are you using an HDMI lead that was supplied with your V6?
Just after the sound has dropped out, if you rewind a bit and play the section again, does the sound drop out again in the same place?

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35957833)

Anyone else getting occasional sound dropouts on BT Sport 4K?

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35957848)

I'd say there's quite a bit we can do about it. I'd also be interested to know if anybody else is also having the same problem.

Gavin: Try changing the Dolby setting on the V6. That's always a good start for any audio problem.

If that doesn't resolve it, some questions...
How do you get your sound? Is it just HDMI straight from V6 to TV, with sound coming out of TV speakers, or something more complex (like an amp or soundbar)?
Are you using an HDMI lead that was supplied with your V6?
Just after the sound has dropped out, if you rewind a bit and play the section again, does the sound drop out again in the same place?
Do the drop-outs happen at regular time intervals, or are they random?

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35957892)

The dropouts were random but during extra time it was fine

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35957918)

OK, sounds like the fault may have gone away. Let me know if it happens again. (Also try that rewinding test)

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35957370)

Given HD channels in UK are 1080i but HDTVs are either 720p or 1080p I'd imagine the downscaled 4K is likely to look better as it would be displayed at 1080p I'd have thought.

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35957938)

Random questions on BT Sports 4K channel.

Do VM get Dolby Atmos as advertised on the BT adverts?

If so and if you do not have a 4K TV, do you get the Dolby Atmos feed (but obviously not the 4K picture)

Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35957824)

According to spiderplant, not very much of an increase. This is good news for when the UHD dramas start to come along. Hopefully, not too much longer now!

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35957934)

A bit pedantic but there are and was hardly any 720p TVs on sale.

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35957960)

See the Atmos section on the 4K article in help:

https://help.virginmedia.com/system/...rgin-TV-V6-box

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35958051)

:D

I was just meaning there aren't 1080i screens on sale, they are either below (720p) or above (1080p) the broadcast standard, capability-wise, as all the HD channels are 1080i.
Downscaled 4K would therefore be better than broadcast HD channels by whatever factor 1080p compared to 1080i, assuming downscaled 4K was done to 1080p.

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35958074)

My point was, there were hardly any 720p screens. Most were 768p (1366 x 768)

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35958080)

I'm pretty sure I had one. :D It did a pretty good job of pretending to be Full HD though, the on-screen text interface phrased it like it was proper 1080p. (Actually come to think of it one of the other TVs here might be :)) Most of the 720p screens these days are small kitchen types, but who am I kidding they might be the 768p you mention, I don't look at specs too closely, just whether it says Full/1080p or not.

Anyway I'll shut up now, I don't want to take this off topic any more.

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35962794)

Virgin TV UHD launches at 20:20 on Monday, September 17th on channel 999 it is available for Virgin TV Full House and VIP customers at no additional cost



https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.amppro...date-how-watch

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35962800)

Can’t say it’s not a good thing but in comparison to sky 4K offering it’s really really dismal[/url]

Originally Posted by AdamDigital (Post 35963263)

Anyone any ideas why this might be?

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35963252)

Virgin TV Ultra HD added to channel 999 on the EPG

Monday 17th
8.20pm The Big Dry (New)
9.10pm Mysteries of the Mekong
10pm StartUp (New)
10.55pm The Rolling Stones: Havana Moon

Tuesday 18th
8.20pm The Big Dry (New)
9.10pm Great Parks of Africa (New)
10pm Shut Eye (New)
10.50pm StartUp

Wednesday 19th
8.20pm The Big Dry (New)
9.10pm Brazil Untamed (New)
10pm House of Cards (New)
11pm Shut Eye

Thursday 20th
8.20pm Alaskan Summer (New)
9.10pm Great Blue Wild
10pm The Art of More (New)
10.50pm House of Cards

Friday 21st
8.20pm The Big Dry
9. 10pm Undiscovered Vistas
10pm Masters of Sex
11pm The Art of More

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35963270)

Try this checklist:
https://help.virginmedia.com/system/...rgin-TV-V6-box

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35963271)

Seems very sensible scheduling to me.

Putting their "big drama" at 10pm means it won't clash with key 9pm slot on other channels.

Then putting the previous day's "big drama" on right after that night's "big drama" is a bit like having a +1 Day service.

I just wish it was available for all V6 customers rather than some top packages.

Given Undiscovered Vistas is 50mins on the EPG when it's on LoveNature and it is also this length on VMUHD does this mean VMUHD is ad-free (aside from self promotion promos) like LoveNature channel is?

Originally Posted by AdamDigital (Post 35963263)

Been looking at channels 999, 100, and the UHD teaser available via the Home button.

All 3 of these are flickering quite noticeably on my TV. Same happened when I tried to access Netflix UHD via V6. Netflix UHD on my connected TV was perfect. Both use same wifi connection. On V6, channel 555 is perfectly smooth.

So, two liner channels in UHD, one (555) is smooth, the other (999) is jerky.

Anyone any ideas why this might be?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35963364)

To get 4K you should only have the 2160 options enabled.

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35953247)

Well where is it then - no sign of it.

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35963378)

...because the BT 4K channel is 50fps and the 2160P passthru setting only caters for 24, 25 and 30fps, not 50fps.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35963379)

]Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I am expecting more UHD content later this year if all goes well, so keep your fingers crossed. Hopefully, (from my perspective at least) it's not just sport this time around. I have no idea which channels are involved in the current negotiations.




Well, I did say later this year, and now we know the Virgin UHD channel starts tonight. There are a number of programmes I am recording from this channel including StartUp, The Art of More, The Big Dry, Shut Eye, Alaskan Summer and Mysteries of the Mekong. Not bad at all for the first week of a new channel. There are no advertisements either, so overall I would say that this is better than any Sky general entertainment channel, despite its restricted broadcast hours initially.

I am looking forward tremendously to other UHD channels being added soon, including Love Nature 4K and Insight. I would hope that we will see something from Discovery soon as well. Sadly, I don't think we will see any UHD from Sky until 2019.

However, we are now making good progress, and with BT Sport 4K in our line-up, at least those of us with 4K TVs have a better choice of high quality PQ programming.

I trust also that Virgin Movies and the Virgin Media Store will start to offer a choice of UHD films before much longer, although as Den said earlier, these might be a bit pricey. Still, having the option would be nice.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35963383)

We thought you had deserted us, OB, welcome back...….:)

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35963378)

...because the BT 4K channel is 50fps and the 2160P passthru setting only caters for 24, 25 and 30fps, not 50fps.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35963383)

We thought you had deserted us, OB, welcome back...….:)

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35963383)

We thought you had deserted us, OB, welcome back...….:)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35963384)

+1

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35963398)

OB has obviously been waiting for 1 of his predictions to come true:clap::clap:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35963398)

OB has obviously been waiting for 1 of his predictions to come true:clap::clap:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35963408)

The influential pulling power of OB.:D

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35963411)

40 mins to go to launch

Originally Posted by bolgerp (Post 35963457)

Drat.... I completely forgot about it last night! Does anyone know if the programmes they are showing on the UHD channel will be available on demand in UHD?

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35963467)

They are repeating the 10pm drama from previous day after the one for current day, which basically means 10.50pm-ish.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35963530)

The picture is great but its the whining unintelligence of Steve McManaman which is getting on my wick.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35963307)

Yes it is indeed ad-free.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35963577)

Does UHD work with Catch Up/On Demand?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35963582)

There isn't any from the UHD channels on Virgin Media currently, but that's not for always.

Not sure when it'll appear though.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35963577)

Does UHD work with Catch Up/On Demand?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35963580)

You can see it in action on the BBC i-Player.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35963583)

But it won't be a problem to make it happen when UHD material is available, will it, Ben?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35963588)

I wouldn't think so. If the V6 box can do iPlayer, Netflix and YouTube UHD, then it's technically capable, however I don't think the main On Demand platform will support UHD as it's too old.

Virgin are currently in a transition place as to the On Demand platform they use. Sky Cinema on Demand is on a new platform, but nothing else is yet.

So I'd think that that'll need to be completed first, but I don't know when that's going to be.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35968962)

The BBC will be trialling more UHD from 11 November.

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/11/...uhd-trial.html

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35968978)

MTV EMAs will be available live in UHD on VM's UHD channel this Sunday

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35968978)

MTV EMAs will be available live in UHD on VM's UHD channel this Sunday

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35969049)

It doesn't actually say it is on VM's channel on Sunday.

It says VM will show it on Catch Up on their UHD channel.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35969207)

Well, that will be a problem, as Virgin TV Ultra HD is still not available in Catch Up.

Anyway, who is going to wait to watch it in UHD after the event... people will want to watch it live.

V6 TV Guide appears to confirm that the 2018 MTV EMA will not be shown on Virgin TV Ultra HD tonight.

Typical VM.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35969213)

It's on at 11.45pm on 16 November, channel 999.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35969220)

LOL!

Almost 2 weeks later, and in the middle of the night.

Bravo VM.

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35970304)

Dynasties is now available in UHD/HLG on the V6 BBC iPlayer app.

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35976946)

Any sign of Dolby Atmos yet?

Also, any sign of Dolby Digital 5.1 on iPlayer?

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35976946)

Also, any sign of Dolby Digital 5.1 on iPlayer?

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35977440)

5.1 isn't available on iPlayer on any device. BBC did say why but I can't currently find their answer.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35977453)

"The audio will be stereo AAC-LC at 192 kbit/s. Whilst we would like to provide multi-channel sound we have found a number of issues with receivers which are difficult to work-around. We will continue to explore solutions for future events"

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2018-0...world_cup_2018

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35977508)

Given the thinner the TV gets the worse the speakers get they probably think there's less point and allocate the majority of the channel data to picture quality.