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mine went from November, to January, February and back to January again. I assumed they wanted to get them all done before February/now when the price increase is due.
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General Maximus Lincoln was done first 2 weeks in Jan as they didn't want it to run into Feb :)
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Mine went something like this. October 2015, November 2015, January - February 2016, February 2016, your speed boost is ready (log in to Virgin Media which states end of February), March 2016 - June 2016 and the last one which now states July 2016 - December 2016. How it went from being ready to December 2016 is anyone's guess.
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I had something similar and then it just appeared as ready. Turned out to be another attempt to polish a turd so I have arranged to leave.
Speed - yes fantastic but quality and usability shocking. |
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Just checked mine.
Was originally December 2015 Then Feb 2016 Now: Between September 2016 and February 2017 So basically I'll be on another price increase before getting it! |
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they need to do an internal investigation and find out what has gone wrong. Presumably these things get planned well in advance and things are looked at such as equipment costs, man hours etc. How can you make a press statement saying that the majority of the country will be upgraded before Christmas 2015 and then delay it by over a year. It isn't as if a part has been delayed or somebody has left and you need delay it by a month. Something serious has got to have gone wrong for that happen.
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Just typical VM efficientcy.:D:D:D |
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As for the initial PR? Optimism vs reality. O2 and Vodafone promised 97% 4G coverage by the end of 2015. We're now well into 2016 and neither network are anywhere close. |
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Optimism vs Reality - Marketing vs Engineering, more like....;)
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Hugh has got it right . Not every area was ready to go but hey lets just launch it . When you get to see what is involved to bring extra capacity to areas it is not as simple as turning a switch :)
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We seem to have been lucky here in north Worthing that the upgrades are working. I only have 70mbs but the evening hump in latency was fixed in the autumn.
Now it's pretty flat.:) |
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Now it is February 2016 But one suspects that will be changed soon if the past is anything to go by.. |
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My upgrade was June 2016 but while in the trial forums i complained that i only got 20-50mbit in the evenings, forum staff got networks to confirm it, so my thinking it was brought forward to fix the congestion issue in my area. Ever since they moved me onto an upgraded 16 downstream ctms everything has been running perfectly and now on 150mbit.
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Just to put a spanner in the works. I was in the VM shop in Reading today and they 100Mbs will increase to 120Mbs not 152Mbs as 152Mbs no longer exists. Either they have the wrong info or VM have changed the goal posts. I think it is cases of the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing! |
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They were wrong.
100Mbit sold before 24th November 2015 goes to 150Mbit. And the older 152Mb (which ceased to be sold on 1st October 2015) goes to 200Mbit 100Mbit sold after 24th November 2015 doesn't qualify for an upgrade. |
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The tiers sold since the 24th November 2015 to new broadband customers are SuperFibre 50, VIVID 100 and VIVID 200. None of these include a further speed boost. These tiers are also the ones that are available to any existing customer making a change to their core bundle.
SuperFibre 70 and VIVID 150 are speed boost tiers only for customers who took out either 50Mbit or 100Mbit before the 24th November 2015, who remain on those tiers and haven't made any other changes to their core bundle. |
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Not as part of this set of speed boost changes. What plans there may be for any further changes I'm not party to.
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Thanks, i have a feeling Virgin are going to have issues with current customers on higher speeds than what is currently being sold, really surprised they did it, but i guess the network wasn't ready.
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Speed upgrade is finally ready here. Bit of a moot point as now on a 100Mb with a new contract.
Have had a change of WAN IP earlier. Possibly moved to a new CMTS? Connection tab still says that we are on Telf11. I thought WAN IP addresses, whilst not being static, are unlikely to change often with VM? |
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OK, VM are starting to get on my wick!!!
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Just what are you going to do with that extra 48Mbps that you can't do now? |
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Hopefully somebody at VM tracks the stats on this kind of stuff and if we turn it the other way around I would love to know the % of areas upgraded when they said they were going to be done. I bet it is around 5%. They should sack them and reallocate the money elsewhere because they position is obviously pointless as things haven't got any better over the last 6-7 years. As one of my colleagues would say, SOS (same old s...) |
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a) worth having, b) due to magic, c)and somehow not worth an apology/explanation for the continuing delays. Everytime I get a bill their silly bragging about the upgrade is blazened across my screen so once a month I grrrrrrrr at my laptop. Any how I have now had an exceedingly large cream cake and am back to my normal unruffled, serene and sunny self. :) |
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Your speed boost is on the way… We’ll be in touch between November 2016 and April 2017 to tell you when your speed upgrade is ready. Not sure how it can go from being ready to being pushed back potentially 10 months. Must require a serious amount of work to increase capacity. |
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The best bit is that mine said it was going to be ready by end of November 2015. For two days at the end of the month it said was ready and available then all of a sudden it wasnt and was put back to Jan-March 2016. I just dont understand how they plan/organise/manage this stuff for it sll to get screwed up so much.
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I think the trouble is more the marketing dept rather than the planning one.
I can see the board meeting. Planning perhaps says "We are commencing a 4yr rollout of increased speeds." Marketing comes out with "how many homes passed within x time?" Planning says "y# within a year but some will take longer due to other issues." Marketing says "Thats OK with y# we can go with done within a year." Planning "But we can't do it within a year, we have areas that need more work and it will take longer than that." Marketing "You let us worry about that, you do the work we'll do the selling. Can you get new customers on the new speeds within a year?" Planning "We could if you don't mind increased congestion in certain areas until we can get the upgrades done." Marketing "Oh, that's not a problem we'll just rebate customers until you get the upgrades done, we only bother about selling it in the first place." Accounts "That's a good idea Marketing, we can increase our customer base that will attact extra investment in the company and it will look as if we have less churn." Planning " I give up, it will be done when we can do it. You two do what you want, it'll still take 4yrs min. I'm off." Marketing to Accounts (once Planning's gone) "What's up with him?" |
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you should get an award for writing that dude. I can imagine that is exactly how it goes.
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Actually I thought I'd better keep it short!
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do you have a webcam in the boardroom or what ! :D |
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bah! this is rubbish.
I have been told for several months that the upgrade will be in june 2016 (and still was up to a month ago) but now i check and its sept-nov 2016. At this rate i'll never get it. |
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My original upgrade date was January this year, then that slipped to July, then to October. Then it went back to July, and now I see it has slipped to 'between October 2016 and December 2016'.
To be honest I don't really care about the increase from 152 to 200, but this inability to even come close to an ETA is hilarious. |
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amazingly i got the upgrade email today so they must have pulled their fingers out and done some work ;)
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Does anyone know how it works for new customers signing up? If you're in an area where people have already had upgrades, will you get it sooner rather than later, or do you go to the back of the queue?
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It is the other way round. You get it before everyone else even if the network isnt ready for it yet.
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The crafty bar stewards.
Last December I got my free BB upgrade from 100mb to 150mb. This month my loyalty discount ended so at the end of May I phoned CS to sort something out and thought I had got the same deal as I had before. But checking this months bill online I found I've been conned! My Free 50mb upgrade as been removed and I'm back down to 100mb.:mad: I'm back on to CS in the morning. |
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All current deals are only available with the current tiers of service ie 50, 100 and 200Mbps.
To keep the speed increase you have to stay on your existing bundle deal. This should have been made clear so you could then make the choice that best suits your needs. |
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That only applies to 200Mbps though. The other two speed increases are only available to existing broadband customers from before November 2015 who remain on their deal from that time.
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Ah, so people signing up now will probably get it once all the existing customers have been upgraded?
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There aren't any announced plans to do that, so there is no guarantee it'll happen.
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Given that Virgin cannot guarantee speeds irrespective of what speed level you are on they tend to rely on the "up to speeds of" description.
However if you are receiving 50Mbps, this may well be OK on the 50Mb service but not so good on the 100Mb or 150Mb service. I'm wirelessly using the 150Mb service on my Windows 10 Laptop but on a number of speed test sites I can barely get over 100Mbps. Surely as a minimum one should be getting more speed than on the lower, cheaper service. If you don't then what is the point of paying more for the higher speed level if is not significantly better that the level below? |
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Sure enough though, WiFi and 100Mb ports on my (now old) router were the hold-ups. Lesson learned for me, router kit might only be capable of 90% of what it claims via wireless, in the real world... |
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Despite the fact that I have the 150Mbps service the I5 can just scrape over 100Mbps but the I7 which I just tested now can do over 150Mbps. I suppose the moral of the story is that updating your internet speed also means upgrading your hardware too!! LOL!! |
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To be honest, I'd expect you'll probably find that the two wireless cards in each laptop aren't identical and that the one in the i5 laptop isn't as good as the one in the i7 one.
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That's quite possible. I think one is gigabyte LAN /n and the other is gigabyte LAN /ac. Helps to explain why users with the same 150Mb service can derive different internet performances.
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It's because wireless-n onwards can make use of what are literally multiple antennae to get additional speeds. Usually you'll see something like "1x1" or "2x2" to indicate the number of up/down links available. You might have to find your wireless card and google to find out. |
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Recently, I called VM with a view to cutting costs on my TV, broadband and phone package what with their relentless inflation busting price increases. They offered to reduce the monthly cost by £18 by; a) changing my unlimited calls to evenings and weekends, (£6) b) reducing my broadband from 150mb to 100mb!:confused: There is a distinct lack of clarity in VM pricing which is certainly making me think about looking elsewhere. The only downside is when I read about the horror stories of users with other suppliers. From my point of view pricing is now the real issue. |
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Going by this guy's experiences you may be better off with Plusnet.
Virgin Media are not a budget supplier. If what you care about is paying as little as possible and avoiding any price increases they're probably not the optimal choice. |
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Yeah, if it was cheaper to run a DOCSIS network than a copper telephone line network, we'd have a lot more of it.
Stands to reason that prices will be a bit higher. I actually think Virgin is pretty competitive overall for what they're offering. |
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I had to ask for my upgrade!
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I was on 152Mb and typically got 110Mb/120Mb. Now I'm upgraded to 200Mb and typically get 150Mb/160Mb.
Any advice on what I would likely get if I downgraded to 100Mb... Best :) |
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The speed you get by plugging your computer directly into your modem by ethernet cable will be faster than the speed received wirelessly from a router. I had problems with my speeds and despite having an I5 laptop and an I7 laptop being given the same speed at the modem the I5 laptop was significantly slower than the I7. Unfortunately, having your speed upgraded also means having your hardware upgraded, especially the processor and the network/wireless unit if you want to benefit from the increase. Hope that helps. |
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My upgrade from 152 to 200 says it's ready on the postcode checker and when you sign in it says will be ready by the end of August 2016. It's September now.
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Seems Virgin Media have give in updating the post code checker and the date of update in my Virgin media. A few people including myself are stuck with the your speed increase is now ready sign in to my Virgin media and when you do it just says will be ready by the end of August 2016. Funny thing is the original date used to be November/December 2015 I believe. How do they get things so wrong.
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What makes this interesting isoif the 100Mb is throttled to say 70Mb then BT Infinity2 is potentially faster and potentially cheaper. Time for serious think. |
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What is going on with the upgrade?
First I was told it was June 2017, then it changed to December 2016, then back to Febuary 2017, then it changed to July 2016, then End of August 2016 but its now september 2016 and still no upgrade but it still says end of august 2016 |
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Now the postcode checker says the upgrade is now ready but my Virgin media states by the end of September 2016. I think Virgin Media have actually gave up unless you bug them to sort these things. |
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I am on a Virgin Ambit 256 modem and using my own Belkin F5D9230-4 v5111 router, firmware 5.02.08, with 20Mbps down and 1Mbps up in the speedtest to my desktop PC which is a cabled connection (Ethernet), Ambit 256 says that the "Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 21483000".
Anyone know when I will receive 70 Mbps ? When I log into my Virgin account I get "Hold on tight. Your speed boost is on the way… Your speed upgrade will be ready to take your connection from up to 20Mbps to up to 70Mbps. It's all thanks to DOCSIS® - the magic in our cables. Look out for it between January 2017 and January 2017". The Find out more button to the right of this takes me to a PDF which is mentioning about call charges! Well Virgin had better get a move on to upgrade me since it is now Jan 24th 2017... Will I be likely to receive a SuperHub 2 (or 1 or 3) ? Or will they just leave me with my ancient Ambit 256 (that isn't even wireless LOL) ? My Area Code is 01, I am in St.Helens NW England. Regards, Alistair G. |
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I am really annoyed with myself. I have just wasted 15 minutes typing out a massive long post telling your to ring customer services because I thought that you had an ambit250 and I explained the limitations of it.
I'll keep it short and sweet now. The ambit256 is a 4 channel modem and can handle 70mbits no problem; I had mine on 120mbits for ages before I upgraded to 200mbits and needed a shub. Whilst it is more than capable of handling the speed, I am not sure it will actually work. A config file has to be written for it and as this particular model is very old and the 70mbits tier is fairly new, I am not sure they would have written a config file for it. Tbh I would ring customer services tomorrow and pretend you are confused and concerned that it isn't going to work. They'll defo post a new shub out to you and the chances are that they'll also upgrade you over the phone and the speed increase will take effect when you activate and register the shub. You have done well keeping the ambit256 for this long, it is a cracking mode. I haven't got time to look up your router now so I don't know how old it is. I would definitely check the wan to lan throughput and make sure it can handle the speed increase. Another word of warning. Once you get the shub, hook it up, register it and let the latest firmware come down, the very first thing your need to do is go into the gui and put it in modem mode so you can continue to use your current router as you are now. As a further bit of info for you, the maximum downstream rate has nothing to do with what the modem can physically handle, it is the speed VM provision you for which in your case is 20mbits. When you get a shub and the speed increase you will see it change to something like 77000000 for 70mbits even though the shub is good for 400mbits. Quote:
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Your thinking of the vmng300. So double annoyance You need to call up to get a new hub sent out and then you can ask for the speed boost |
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Is it still possible to get on the 152mb config as a new customer?
IE is there a chance CS would put me on that profile? Or does it not exist anymore other than auto upgrades... |
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I still don't understand how they haven't finished the speed upgrades yet.
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To be honest it wouldn't be far from the truth for me to say I'm confused about this upgrade (i.e. when / will it work) and concerned that the Ambit maybe 256 won't work at the new speed because of config issues (as you say), so I wouldn't have to lie LOL. Yeah I think I'll be phoning Virgin tomorrrow, and asking for the 70 Mpbs and the SHub 2 if possible. I saw in reviews that Shub 2 has very good speed and range, does Simultaneous Dual Band, and has Guest Networks, all things that would be useful to me. The 5Mbps upload would be nice also for when I'm braodcasting on NightSkiesNetwork and so on (Live Telescope views). Regards, Alistair G. |
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yeah, I won't dwell on it but after all this we need to go back to my original post which I deleted :) The ambit 256 is a single channel modem which can only do ~24mbits maximum so even if there was a 70mbit config file for it (the file that tells the modem what it can do) you would still only get 24mbits. I had the ambit 256 when I was on 20mbits many years ago and moved up to the ambit 300 (what I got confused with) which is a 4 channel modem (good for 200mbits) when 50mbits first came out and I kept that all the way up to 120mbits. For 200mbits plus you need an 8 channel modem (which means a shub) purely for the speed but VM like everyone to have them these days because they are a combi modem/router which makes it easier for VM to troubleshoot if you have any problems.
If you have simple needs then the shubs will suffice but depending what you do on your network (and especially if you are used to having your own router) I would consider investing in a newer and up to date router to compliment the shub in modem mode. |
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Just had VM doing work in the TS17 area. Having checked the hub page we have gone from 16 DS channels to 24. We are still on 2 US channels at 16 qam. Is this the start (finish?) Of them fixing the high utilisation issues and for the speed upgrade to happen? Also could anyone check to see if these figures are ok?
1 299000000 5.3 40.3 256 qam 21 2 323000000 4.8 40.9 256 qam 24 3 315000000 4.9 40.9 256 qam 23 4 307000000 5 40.9 256 qam 22 5 291000000 5.3 40.3 256 qam 20 6 283000000 5.5 40.3 256 qam 19 7 275000000 6 40.9 256 qam 18 8 267000000 6.5 40.9 256 qam 17 9 259000000 6.8 40.9 256 qam 16 10 251000000 6.8 40.9 256 qam 15 11 243000000 6.6 40.9 256 qam 14 12 235000000 6.5 40.9 256 qam 13 13 227000000 6.5 40.9 256 qam 12 14 219000000 6.9 40.9 256 qam 11 15 211000000 7.3 40.3 256 qam 10 16 203000000 7.8 40.9 256 qam 9 17 195000000 8 40.9 256 qam 8 18 187000000 8 40.9 256 qam 7 19 179000000 7.6 40.9 256 qam 6 20 171000000 7.6 40.9 256 qam 5 21 163000000 7.6 40.9 256 qam 4 22 155000000 7.6 40.9 256 qam 3 23 147000000 8 40.9 256 qam 2 24 139000000 8.4 40.9 256 qam 1 6 39400000 ATDMA 39.8 16 qam 6400000 5120 5 46200000 ATDMA 39.8 16 qam 6400000 5120 |
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I'm still on 12 channels down and 2 up
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Seen my first 24 downstreams today too,
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I am still waiting..
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