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The way I see it is this - whatever people think of TiVo, it has been good enough to reduce churn for Virgin Media to Sky, a company which owns loads of content and is the major sport broadcaster in the country. It really is THAT good. As long as it continues to be developed then I think it will probably be good enough to see off Horizon if put up against it in the same market. My hope is that Liberty Global will consider the success of TiVo and not automatically side with their own existing product. If, by virtue of the fact that Horizon has been developed by the company which effectively supplies Sky+, the products become virtually the same on cable and satellite, then Virgin's technological advantage will be lost and people will go to the company with the best content. And that is, whatever your bias, Sky. I can see cost advantages for Virgin Media to eventually migrate to Horizon - I'm not sure I can see many others.

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UPC's horizon box for those who haven't seen it

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My thinking being that the NEXT version of Sky + hd and the continued development of Horizon will possibly result in similar products in the longer term.

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It looks like an alarm clock.

After the xbox one, I'm thinking ugly is the new black

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http://broadbandtrends.com/blog1/201...n-the-horizon/

do you think they plan rollout in uk too in future. Anybody know length contract virgin signed with tivo to use there boxes.

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I really like the design, makes the Tivo looks old and cheap.

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Horizon box looks pants tivo all the way

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My my this is a ugly duckling.:td:

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Another post saying a deal with sky is agreed for sky Atlantic

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...88&postcount=1

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Its all looking very rosy in the garden for VM customer's.:):waving:

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Flamin horrible

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Looks nice apart from the awful UPC logo.

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All those who hate the horizon box I fully agree with you VM best stick with TiVo

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TiVo looks ugly, it really has a look of an old games console, that horizon box looks modern and sleek, nearly as nice as the Samsung V+.

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Indeed

that is horrendous.

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If we do get Atlantic, will people finally shut up about it please? Heard nothing but Atlantic for last couple of years and am sick of it. Hopefully if it comes people can move on. Although if it only comes in SD I suppose we will have another 2 years of moaning about it not being in HD.

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Does it really matter what the STB looks like, functionality over form always wins for me

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/17.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/07/18.jpg

Same functionality but............

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Anyone else think the EPG needs a do-over? Every new channel just gets shoved in the high 100s. I blame all these HD and +1 variations! ;) I know all the SD channel numbers for the main channels, but not these HD ones that are on 17whatever.

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Come on Mark l thought you loved your moaning dear chap.;)

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Hey Den maybe one if the 2 pics that Henkesghost posted likes moaning in more ways than one lol

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l simply don't know what you are talking about most revered great one.:)

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I do, just gutted that I'm going to lose money today. Put a bet on Poulter to win the golf, and it is all going Pete Tong today. Not very amused. At least cricket is going good.

Not fussed what the look of a box is like, it can look like SuBo for all I care, as long as it has the same features as a TiVo box.

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You don't need to read the threads on it.............:)

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Who mentioned Atlantic!.

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I have heard, from 2 separate sources, that BT Sports is going into the XL package. Both people claim they spoke to Virgin Media retentions advising they plan to leave sighting the loss of ESPN from XL and no news on BT Sports. Both claim they where told wait 2 weeks, you will not be disappointing! One asked if this means BT Sports in XL and where told you will not be disappointing.

Either I've been lied to, they've been lied too or BT Sports is going into XL. I promise I am not making this up. If Virgin get BT Sports in XL, and SKY Atlantic is coming soon, then it'll be coming back to Virgin Media in December!

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See you in December bud,I had to speak to retentions today about my discount not being put on my bill and they virtually implied to me that bt sports and sky Atlantic were going into xl pack.anouncement next week !!!!!

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Well lets just wait another 2 weeks and see what the birdie brings Chad but the master of predictions will always be welcomed back to the fold as will thy master of those dark towers.:)

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you be very welcome back from the dark side Chad mate even the master might be coming back

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Chad and muppetman11 back before Xmas? Best Xmas present ever lol

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Roll on BT Sport & Sky Atlantic - looking like both will be in XL package :)

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yes sure looks like bomber was right :D:D:D:D

VM much better value than the dark side ;):)

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If not then :sniper:

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Looks like this guy has been told the same too!

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/vi...p?f=5&t=287725

Either there is a big campaign to spread lies, or there is some substance behind the rumors.

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Another bit of info(if true) new owners want Netflix and lovefilm apps for TiVo and if I heard correctly hopefully included in xl pack.again not confirmed and it is only believed what they want at minute and doesn't mean it will happen but there is at least a possibility

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:D looking good

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We will all be on CF 24/7 over the next 10 days... :)

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Didn't know John Inverdale was on here...

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Well when I joined SKY there was 5 main reasons:

1. Much more HD than Virgin
2. SKY Atlantic
3. SKY 3D
4. Access to Premier Sports
5. Oh and half price for 12 months!

However since joining SKY Virgin have:

1. Closed the HD gap (In terms of channels I would watch)
2. Appear to have done a deal for SKY Atlantic
3. Added plenty new 3D TV to their demand line-up
4. Premier Sports is dying on it's ass
5. Do half price deals for 9 and 12 months if you bide your time waiting for the offer!

If SKY Atlantic really is coming soon, and BT Sports does go into the XL package, Virgin Media becomes a very attractive proposition. As a Virgin mobile customers I'm getting offers for 1Tb TiVo, and a V+ box for free in a second room to come back. My wife will also be happy as Style has launched on Virgin too.

Don't get me wrong personally I'm finding SKY to be a great service overall, and they do keep on creating new products and services, however not necessarily ones that excite me.

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Cannot see the logic of BT Sports being on XL for no extra cost when BT keep banging on about getting people onto their broadband.... Confused.

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24/7? are we predicting future Aussie cricket scores?!:D#ASHES

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agreed.

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If you read through the whole thread, the op rang again 24 hours later and this time was given the "we're still in negotiations" line. I fear there will be some disappointed people come 1st August!

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they make more money with it being on VM both from VM and advertisers with it having more viewers so they get more of there money back they spent on the football

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Me neither however everything will become clear in about 10 days time.

SKY customers taking BT have to pay a £15.00 registration fee. There are roughly 1.8 million Virgin customers on the XL package. Maybe Virgin have agreed a deal for the channels to go into XL with a bumper initial payment of £27,000,000 to BT to cover 1.8 million customer worth of registration fees? I know it sounds very unlikely, but certainly not impossible.

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But they keep saying they are using this to sell broadband. They sell no broadband whatsoever giving it to XL customers. I am very very cynical that this will be on XL.

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Surely we will hear something from VM next week about BT Sport (& Sky Atlantic) :)

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But they get a bigger audience to sell advertising on their channels

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They won't sell broadband if it becomes a stand alone subscription channel on Virgin, like Boxnation, either though.

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Yes I accept that but BT have repeatedly said the point of the sport channels is to sell broadband. They were either talking rot or they have changed their minds if it comes on XL. In my view it is unlikely for nothing.

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I see your point - we will see what happens in the next 10 days

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Apart from the 8 hours allowed for sleeping each night John.;)

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So that's BT Sport that's costing Sky customers £12 a month for year 1 then £15 every year after , Netflix at £5.99 and Lovefilm at £4.99 all included in XL for the currently £29.50 if you have TIVO wow that's some deal :D

Sky Atlantic in XL I can defo see however all the rest included in XL I think is a distant dream.

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I don't sleep, I drink :beer: :)

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IMO BT Sport won't be offered free, it may be subsidised in the Xl pack as a standalone channel and Atlantic, if the rumours turn out to be true added to the XL pack.

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The force is strong with these rumours of BT Sports and Sky Atlantic coming Andy.:omg:

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Maybe so Den, but i just cannot see it being free on the xl package!

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Media boy has gone very quiet!.

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I still think BT Sports will be the same price as on Sky, but you never know...

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That's exactly my view , maybe tiered depending on what TV pack you subscribe to.

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well master espn cost on sky and was in xl on VM so that could happen we find out soon but totally agree no way will Netflix and love film happen

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He rarely posts over the weekend

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Alcoholics Anonymous for you John then.;):D

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I am posting from rehab ;)

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Actually, that's enough by itself, but it's so much more than that. For example, how it manages to find alternatives to your recording options when clashes occur. Sky plus is way behind the TIVO.

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Oh dear me as it seem all is crumbling in the impregnable dark tower of thy master as all those around him look like deserting him very soon.;):D

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Sky :sniper:

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And presumably choose your victims for :sniper::D

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:D

Exterminate! Exterminate!

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All this BT Sport and Sky Atlantic news would be great for my dad if he wasnt leaving VM to go to Sky

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Started a chat to a VM agent regarding BT sport this is what I got

Make what you will of that

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When I was a Virgin customer, there where times when they really pulled things out of the bag. Sometimes totally out of the blue and other times totally against the views and opinions of people here and other forums. Whilst I'm still to be fully convinced BT Sports will be in the XL package, here are some of the big surprises I remember that makes me think they might be able to pull it off.

1. Setanta Sports going into the XL package
2. ESPN going into the XL package
3. The return of the SKY basic channels
4. SKY HD channels being available on the Virgin platform
5. SKY Movies and SKY Sports available on demand
6. 24 HD and SD Olympic channels
7. Film 4HD as an exclusive
8. Jointly launching Setanta Sports News to compete with SKY Sports News

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You clearly don't remember me posting on here as a VM subscriber , my parents take all VM services I have zero loyalty to Sky and will basically take a deal with any service provider if the services are right , that's the beauty of being on a rolling contract I can look at competitors like VM and BT. I'm currently placed in a perfect position to see what happens to the XL package don't forget we only have rumours as such yet , if BT Sport and Sky Atlantic HD is included in XL I can switch at the drop of a hat by handing in my 30 days notice.

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I'm as excited about the Android app as SA!

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And that is the smart move.

Blind loyalty is foolish

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we will welcome you back bud,everything as you say is rumours some have come true some haven't but to say this time there seems to be a lot more rumours about.Lets not forget we have new owners and they will want to show there plan of action if these rumours are true they certainly will have and even it's its only sky Atlantic included that is a major coup especially in hd we have been waiting two years and they haven't owned the company 5 min and strike a deal.
As for love film and Netflix from what I heard the new company wants them both on TiVo and regards to being included in xl that could be not possible but from what I was hearing they want to push xl and especially VIP package and pay one price for everything rather than Addon charges.
Things could certainly be looking up for vm customers,just need universal hd now(must remember to send my monthly email to universal owners:)) and what better stamp of approval than getting chad and the great muppetman11 back on side :D

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Watch the sky deals if that happens bud

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Same here my 12 months fixed contract with sky is up on the Friday of the August BH weekend so I'm in a perfect position now just sitting here and awaiting the news if BT sport is added to the XL pack I'll be back in no time

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Fair play to the posters that have continued to trumpet the merits of Virginmedia if the rumours are true. Been very close to moving to Sky in the last 6 months only the hassle of changing providers held me back. A few have continued to post that Virgin will pull through in the end, looks like they may well have been right :) Have been heavily critical of the tv service from Virgin in the past, seems may have been the best decision not to move.

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We'll see!

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Content deals take months to sort out. If there is a new deal, it won't be down to LGI.

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I don't wish to spoil the party, but I'm shocked to see Sky Atlantic join Virgin soon. Sky signed an exclusive deal with HBO for Atlantic to be exclusively on Sky until 2016 (what I was told) and would not be distributed elsewhere until then. And the existing deal for Sky's basic channels does not expire until 2019. What is going on between Sky and Virgin!? :confused:

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Sky signed a deal with HBO for their shows to be on Atlantic and no other channel (excluding existing deals), what platform Sky Atlantic is on is entirely upto Sky.

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Personally I think it's pretty obvious that VM would want to get BT Sports into the XL pack to replace ESPN. I think if they had gone for the same deal as Sky things would have been done long ago. Whether or not they've been successful in their negotiations is another matter of course. I really hope so, as there's no way I'm going to pay an extra £15 a month on top of my VIP pricing. I'll go to the pub for the odd game I want to see if that turns out to be the case. This is eerily similar to the initial ESPN negotiations for those that remember it. Fingers crossed for a launch in XL, if that happens and Atlantic is confirmed I'll be extremely happy!

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I will wait till we get official confirmation before I get too carried away. But in the mean time, here we go, here we go, here we go. :cleader:

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Ya here we go, here we go, here we go, into disappointment ville for VM customers :D:D:D

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Tivo does a job, just not great at it.

Too slow and clunky compared to other boxes.

When I press a button I want instant response. Not let me think about it for a while.

Know it's not just my box, I've had 4 all the same, friends and family who have them or had them, all the same.

Hate the awful EPG too. Rarely updates on programme changes. Still get wrong EPG info on programmes, stats a programme is on, record it only to find it's something completely different.

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Disappointment for the <0.1% of VM customers who actually read CableForum and the ~50% of those that actually believed the rumours anyway.

So about 4 people.

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Said this before but virgin hasn't actually said anything official about espn leaving have they?

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Yes, unless a deal is struck with BT in the next week or so, ESPN will leave Virgin and America/Classic will close regardless.

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Yer they finally released a statement a couple of days ago

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You could be right,but if bt sports ends up in xl pack it will be us laughing at the sky fan boys again.remind me how much did a sky customer pay for espn whilst we got it for free ;)

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Oh Mr Stokes l shall have to prescribe something for you today as you sound most unwell young chap.:D;)

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Lets all hope we hear something good soon about BT Sport and Sky Atlantic :)

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Where that old sourpuss Mr Stokes when you need him for his daily countdown.;):D

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I'll do it - 10 days... ;)

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I do feel a bit unwell today :)

In bed but if you insist 10 days to go :D

Good lad, i might just do the whole 10 days now as well, not done it for a few days

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 

Yes it will - they have been activley reopening lots of negotiations on lots of things over the last 2 weeks.

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That is true, but we won't see the results for quite some time.

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And why is this ???

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Well they very likely reopened the sky basics deal, it seems that may be giving us results in the next 10 days...

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Delighted to see these rumours and hope they are true. I have my own Sky setup in my bedroom (long story) which is out of contract on the 26th Aug, so I am cancelling on the 26th Jul. I am upgrading our family virgin setup (tv, bb, phone) in order to get the sports and a box in my room etc. Makes it so much easier if they just bung it in the VIP pack, because then I can just ring up virgin and say "upgrade me to VIP please" and it'll take about 2 minutes. If BT Sport goes separate I will have to fanny around with the package options and lose out on loads of channels/bb/phone bonuses to get a manageable price and it'll take about half an hour on the phone and be really confusing.

me, my mum and brother split the bill so I can simply pay £75 a month and they pay £20 each, and have the whole VIP pack because what we've got now is totally inadequate for what we need and the router is rubbish so we could use the new one, and a TIVO box in the front room (i'll miss my Sky+ HD Box in my bedroom mind...). I would have had to get BT Sport through sky if worst came to worst but looks 99% like that won't be necessary.

also don't agree at all with people saying Sky Atlantic would be a fair substitute for BT Sport. I want those 38 premier league games I am football mad. I want all the sport and I want it in HD. A few cliched american dramas isn't the equivalent of 38 Live premier league games if you're a supporter. I have Atlantic now and never watch it. My team is first up on BT so hoping hey don't take ages to get the installer round.

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Quite some time implies to me that vm dragging there feet !!!!

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Any proof of that Howard?.