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Little tech help please , my Xbox one will be in the spare room (my man cave) and I want to plug the sky box into the hdmi in on the xbox one , the sky hd box only has one hdmi out , is there some sort of splitter I can use at the sky box end that wouldn't require me to switch anything ?
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How about this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quality-2-5G...=hdmi+splitter
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See the instruction manual image that was leaked yesterday. :) EDIT I guess you mean the Sky Box is connected to more than 1 TV, if so maybe this will do the trick as it says it is auto switching. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1382780181 |
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So yeah. Call of Duty ghosts can only run at 720p on the Xbox one. Genius really. How do we make a console that flops harder than a dreamcast? Good job lads you've nailed it.
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A quick Google and you'd know that your guess is wrong. Looks like the minimum is going to be atleast 900p. Also, because a third party dev made a game at 720p, doesn't mean a console will flop. IW always go for framerate over resolution from my experience.
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Also it is unlikely the press wouldn't report this...
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Better yet does it matter? Yeah when you've been playing in huge resolutions on pc for many years you'd expect a giant like Microsoft to be able to produce a machine equal or better than its next competitor after 6 years of faffing. One game doesn't make a flop. Years of building a set top box that can play games worse that it's next competitor does though. http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/10/ca...p-on-xbox-one/ This isn't an anti Xbox campaign is simple and very fair questioning of a company that's had years to think about this stuff. It's about paying more to get less. If the price was the same or lower than a PS4 this probably wouldn't be an issue at all. |
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BF4 will only run at 900p on a PS4. Just found a debate from reddit about this http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...ing_x1_secret/ |
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Lucky I preordered both consoles. Although I cancelled my PS4 order and redid it later so no launch day release for me.
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Sorry but I'm just up for the next generation , ps4 games can look a bit shinier for me , it's the innovation I'm interested in and Sony will be playing catch up yet again, their software at launch (operating system ) of ps3 was rubbish ...... And still is IMO ;)
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It's game specific, quite a few of the Xbox One games are utlising 1080@60fps i.e. Forza 5.
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You say innovation...what innovation. Microsoft took anything innovative out of the console after the backlash. Although you can plug your Sky box into your xbox rather than just watch it from your sky box. Then there's the capture side of things regarding twitch which they handily backed right up on and went on to say there would be restrictions rather than the high quality streaming they spoke of at E3. OS innovation? its just windows 8 for a console. Look Back at the 360 and PS3 and think innovation. HD gaming. Blu Ray player. Wireless Controllers and motion sensors. High speed online gaming. On board HDDs This time round. Nothing. Updated hardware. Now let's be honest and fair. Was it wireless controllers or motion control that made the 360 and PS3 gen so great? Nah. Rockstar games and their ever advancing physics engines. Forza 3 took a huge leap in physics and rendering. GTA IV was massive in terms of innovation. The Last of us, Uncharted, Gears of War and Beyond: Two Souls. The First Modern Warfare lit the stage up for online gaming on consoles or even the huge changes the frostbite engine brought. They're the true innovators of console gaming not Microsoft or Sony. In 6 years time we'll look back at massive advancements in physics engines not some set top box gimmick and an OS riddled with ads. |
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The features ms talked about , family sharing , game sharing etc , everything talked about in their original vision will return but only for those that embrace the digital media. A console based windows 8 with voice controls and instant snapping and recording sounds pretty innovative to me and it will be interesting how the two os compare. I'm not slating ps4 and there's a good chance in the future I'll buy one but for launch the xbox one is for me, I don't care if ps4 is more powerful that's for the fan boys to rant about its about the whole package for me , dedicated servers for every game, cloud usage from day one, kinect, better exclusives (IMO) , xbox live is streets ahead of psn and the gap is only going to get bigger , do people think that all of a sudden Sony are going to flip a switch and psn is going to be amazing ?, they haven't got the world wide resources and will have to rent them where as microsoft already have their own datacentres worldwide.
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Even though it is possible COD runs at 720P it still doesn't prove the Xbox isn't capable of 1080P.
Also i have seen both the Xbox and the PS4 and in my opinion everything i got to see on PS4 other that Assassins Creeds looked terrible in frame rate compared to what i saw and got to play on the X1 so i am definitely not worried 1 bit and so excited to get the X1 or though i may buy a PS4 in the future if it turns out that the games really are far better than the X1, but at the moment the X1 it is for sure. I have just seen the latest live feed Forza 5 video and i think it is awesome, so can't wait to play on it again! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOdoPXmSvo |
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Xbox Live is still the ace up Microsoft's sleeve certainly. Let's wait and see what happens. Apparently the embargo isn't related to performance issues with the Xbox but some industry inside baseball.
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I hope something official comes out about this very soon. |
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It's not xbox related ;) https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSessl...me=AdamSessler
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edit Oh i see it is something about Youtube removing videos that are not official, no big deal then. :) |
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Someone jumped to the wrong conclusion and it went viral , that's the internet for ya !!!
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I've been reading something about Sony not letting websites do video reviews using an actual PS4, instead they have to use a dev kit which is more powerful than the PS4. Is this the same thing that people are on about with the Xbox One?
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Does look like it was a rumour spread by the Internet. Wonder why both consoles have such an embargo though.
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It's always something daft. The Internet reckon it's because Microsoft don't want ghosts reviewed till as late as possible. Unlikely though as MS could just as easy hand out Forza till then rather than deny access to the console.
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Seems like Sony is preventing access to the console: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1981
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Well I did mention the PS4 and persistent crashing. Who knows.
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How many weeks till release? Is it three or four?
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It was inevitable. The trolls are upon us.
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Kinect Sports Rivals Preseason trial will be free to install on the console release, not sure why this is news though if it is only a trial?
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Here are 2 Battlefield 4 Xbox One/PS4 comparison videos, it looks the same to me, although i am still not sure what the resolution is on the X1.
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/...ics-comparison http://www.videogamer.com/videos/bat...html?start=167 Edit- and another one, it seems that the PS4 is running at 900P and the X1 at 720P but they look just as good as each other in the below video, the textures may look better on the X1 in my opinion though. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ce-off-preview Texture comparisons in this thread, and it is obvious they look better now on X1, which i find strange with its lower resolution but i am happy at those comparisons considering i am getting the X1. :) Other peoples thoughts on this? http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/11...entry596059637 |
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Looks good to me , said it so many times that I don't care if ps4 looks better and it seems to me there is nothing between them, if anything texture wise the xbox one has the edge and judging by the posts I've read it's only going to look better on release day .
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http://www.oxm.co.uk/65190/video-one...e-on-xbox-one/
Just a gameplay video, wouldn't judge graphics or res given they seem to have recorded it using a pants capture card or the xbox itself (recording feature). Seems to be a few texture bugs lingering about but to be fair this game has never interested me so I'm not bothered. |
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I am thinking of cancelling my x1 order based on the resolution difference on launch titles and buying the cheaper ps4 console and then waiting to see what happens, any views on my possible decision?
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I really don't see that as a big enough reason to cancel.
Put it this way, if no info leaked then would you even notice? It's the same on current gen systems. Not all games are actually in 720p or 1080p. The systems upscale to the output resolution. |
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I will scratch my head for a few weeks before i make a decision i think as i really would like to stick with X1 but it does look like most games will be 720p compared to most games on PS4 closer to 1080P and both consoles obviously both have room for improvement overtime. I only want 1 console though grrr. lol |
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Just buy both?
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I don't really have time to play games that often though so buying both would be a waste, i need to stick to 1 console i think.
Maybe i will just take the risk and stick with X1 as i do prefer the games lineup for the exclusives next year so it is just the resolution issue bugging me now. |
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I am still in 2 minds and it is the first time i have wavered since placing my X1 preorder.
My problem is i don't like jaggies and i can see jaggies on my 22in monitor on those comparison videos so it will look worse on a 40in TV. I will likely keep my X1 order but when i see videos like this it makes me think otherwise as it looks great with very little jaggies. |
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I'm sticking with the Xbox One at launch and a PS4 next year when Naughty Dog (hopefully) bring something out.
(based upon current gen) I prefer the controller and I prefer the online system. It's not like all games are going to be 720p... Forza is 1080p, and others will be. IIRC from reading it last night, that DF article mentioned that the issue with Ghosts and BF4 may have been because they're 3rd party launch titles and MS had been moving the goalposts regarding the spec and the drivers. If the final specs and drivers were not locked down in time, IW and DICE may have had to "play it safe" and aim for 720p just in case, due to not knowing what the final system would be like. |
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Oddity I had an email from Amazon who said that CoD ghosts is now being pushed back to the 16th Nov, instead of the 5th. Wonder if that has something to do with the resolution?
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I see no reason why it would require XBL Gold on the Xbox One when it doesn't require it on the Xbox 360. On the 360, you need Gold for multiplayer plus pretty much every app except for BBC iPlayer. You do not need it if you want to play audio CDs, MP3s, or stream media from a DLNA / UPnP Media Server. |
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Far too late for them to do anything about the resolution in that space of time.
I think it is simply Amazon being stupid, given that the Xbox One itself won't be out by the 5th of November... or even the 16th! |
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pretty sure the dev could send updates down to fix the res issues, xb1 is gonna be better console i'm sure on it look at video for BF4 comparison there is no difference at all, i cannot wait to get my hands on my one
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It makes sense to get the games before you get the console though or you may end up with no games to play on the console.
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BF4 PC - http://imgur.com/a/48o0Y
BF4 X1 - http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/m..._4_31_605x.jpg Not disappointed though as I have a PC that'll play it like that. I won't be buying the X1 this year nor will I be buying the PS4. I completely forgot why I was buying them. There's no point in me buying COD or BF4 for both when they look better on the superior platform. I think my main swing was Forza but having now played it I can't say I'll be that bothered. Titanfall is also PC and Halo 5 or another Gears game would be the only reason for me to purchase. Gears or Halo please :D |
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I won't ever compare with a PC as that is not how i want to play my games but if a PC is going to be your choice of gaming platform then stick to that. I decided several years ago a console was for me for gaming as it was more for a living room, even though my desktop PC is in my living room and always on.
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I loved the 360 and still do. I'm just annoyed consoles are lagging so far behind now. I don't expect it to look close to a PC but I do expect it to at least try. I'll probably wait to see what rockstar can produce for these consoles before properly judging. Saying that though I laughed at the Steam Box... I'm not laughing anymore and neither should Microsoft or Sony.
Regardless I'll always vote XBL over PSN or PC. Everything feels so much neater and simpler on XBL. As I've said before though. Developers will define this generation not the consoles. Rockstar will produce something amazing bigger than anything they've ever done. Something I will need though is the X1 controller for PC. Far superior thumb stick location to a PS controller . Just hope they're properly optimised for both and the thumb sticks don't just move wherever they want like the 360 controller did on PC. I'll kit it like a scuf controller anyway. |
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xbox 1 has 4k support as far as am aware
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4K support for movies only i believe just like the PS4.
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didn't they do a demo for forza 5 on 4k tv in 4k
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Seems I was wrong... it really is being released before the console itself. |
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Here is a really good comparison video for Battlefield 4 between all the consoles, current gen and next gen.
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Both next gen do look a lot better that current gen though. Just gutted I can't get a One till at least next year :td: |
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Will be interesting to see the difference between cod ghosts ps4 and xbox one , it seems xbox one upscaling is the mutts nuts because there really isn't a difference and in motion no difference at all , I'm 100% happy with my decision and can't wait for the 23rd :)
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I think the textures look better on the X1 version of BF4, just hope it looks as good on my 40in TV.
Roll on the 22nd November and it is a Friday i am on early shift so any missed delivery from Tescos i should be able to atleast get it by Saturday. |
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Was reading between the lines on this article , that's what makes me think the xbox one is very good at upscaling ;) |
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All current generation consoles were good at up scaling so they wouldn't have an excuse for it to be any different now.
We've had word from the Pcars dev team saying they're considering a push for next generation consoles. It wouldn't be too hard to do given the current PC version at top specs beat both new consoles thus making it relatively simple to port it over and simply tweak till it's playing well. Why is this of any importance? Forza & GT could be in real trouble. This game is simply unbelievable and if they can get it to similar levels that they've got it performing on pc over to the Xbox then you're laughing. Forza and GT may have numerous more licences but Pcars looks better, plays better and has huge game play variety for hardcore racing simulation fans when compared to these two. PCARS for Xbox one! R.I.P Forza Side note: anyone else loving the low key COD launch tonight? it's about time their numbers dropped and they got a kick in the arse. Moving fish heh. Good Riddance. Roll on the REAL infinity ward and Titanfall |
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Damn sorry to hear about your job, really bad timing
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Just been catching up this thread and im not to concerned about the Ghost res issue. I say this as from what ive read they did try it at 1080p but framerate was an issue. Until both consoles are launched then we have no actual way of knowing which console it looks better on.
The way i see it is if some 3rd party games are in 720p on Xbox One at launch then means they can only go up in res in the future. If it means i cant see as many strands of hair on somebody in the game but have the better console overall then so be it. I would much rather have a better console than an extra few strands of hair on a solider in Ghosts. Forza runs at 1080p so it does prove the console its self is capable of this. Just means 3rd party devs will need extra time to get to grips with it. Dont forget Turn 10 will have had longer to code for the Xbox One than IW did as well as the fact they have only had to code for Xbox One where as IW has had to code for multiple console and the PC. Give it time and Xbox One will run most games at 1080p in the future. On a side note only 17 days to go. These 17 days will drag like hell. The actual morning day will also drag while i wait for the delivery. I am hoping i will be an AM slot for delivery and not an PM slot |
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Well if their reasons for making the game run at 720p are so they could maintain the 60fps then that is better than getting it 1080p at only 30fps.
However if the console then still upscales and its still 60fps, and its not really noticable then fantastic :-) |
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I've just read that COD actually struggles with the framerate a bit. I think it was something to do with smoke that caused it to drop.
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You guys may want to reconsider buying Ghosts because it looks like crap in this 360,ps3,ps4 comparison video, definitely not next gen in my opinion compared to the BF4 video comparison video, am i being too harsh on it what do you guys think?
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Embargoed for another week i thought i heard.
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As long as people keep buying COD it'll continue getting worse. It's been that way since they binned the original Infiinity Ward. If people stopped buying it they'd actually make an effort to get it to level it was at in COD 4.All I see now is a game that's constaantly dumbed down each year so that the skill requirement is that of a 3 year old. Luckily due to GTA V theres no game that's coming close to that financial record due to ridiculous sales and because not everyone will be NG for about 4-5 years.
I urge you all to instead look at Titanfall (The REAL Infinity ward) and support a game that's actually worth £40 However SnoopZ was right, the difference between NG and CG versions are minimal. Would you expect anything less from a company that sells the same product each year with a few new maps? Solution is simple, we kill the batman. No seriously though, a 1080p upgraded COD 4 with new maps and additional weapons would get more praise than this rubbish. |
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If you go to the official Titanfall site you can download a 1080p @ 30fps video of multiplayer. It looks spectacular, video is over 900mb for only a few minutes of gameplay though. Very high bit rate. There is a lot more to the COD games each year. More so when it used to alternate between the two dev teams. |
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Modern Warfare 1-2, Sensational. (Infinity Ward) Modern Warfare 3-4, Awful. (Fake Infinity Ward) Black Ops 1-2 Brilliant. (Treyarch) I think the cause is quite clear. You're right though there is more to COD games but I think it's every 2 years because It's Treyarch that bring the changes. |
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Also where is Modern Warfare 4? I don't remember that one. Many of the changes are under the hood. Improvements to the game engine, new versions of the engine and physics. I enjoyed playing all the COD games though. Don't think I've thought any of them were awful per say. Personally I can't wait to eventually get hold of the new game and eventually the Xbox One. Although you may want to get Ghosts on the WiiU as its Treyarch that developed that console version :) |
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cod games have been terrible since they removed tanks out of it that was wow it been same rubbish every year just getting worse each time i am not buying at all it a waste of money in my opinion BF4 is quality game ps4/ xbox one video u couldn't tell the difference
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Oh dear lol........
Ghosts cut scene copied from MW2, that is ridiculous. http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/0...dern-warfare-2 |
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