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Bulky 26-10-2013 09:19

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Little tech help please , my Xbox one will be in the spare room (my man cave) and I want to plug the sky box into the hdmi in on the xbox one , the sky hd box only has one hdmi out , is there some sort of splitter I can use at the sky box end that wouldn't require me to switch anything ?

MadGamer 26-10-2013 10:10

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How about this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quality-2-5G...=hdmi+splitter

SnoopZ 26-10-2013 10:36

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35637009)
Little tech help please , my Xbox one will be in the spare room (my man cave) and I want to plug the sky box into the hdmi in on the xbox one , the sky hd box only has one hdmi out , is there some sort of splitter I can use at the sky box end that wouldn't require me to switch anything ?

Unless i am misunderstanding what you want to do, the Xbox One has an HDMI pass through, so all you need to do is instead of plugging the Sky box to your TV you will plug it into the HDMI IN on the Xbox, then the Xbox is connected to the TV with its HDMI out.

See the instruction manual image that was leaked yesterday. :)

EDIT

I guess you mean the Sky Box is connected to more than 1 TV, if so maybe this will do the trick as it says it is auto switching.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1382780181

Bulky 26-10-2013 11:15

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35637026)
Unless i am misunderstanding what you want to do, the Xbox One has an HDMI pass through, so all you need to do is instead of plugging the Sky box to your TV you will plug it into the HDMI IN on the Xbox, then the Xbox is connected to the TV with its HDMI out.

See the instruction manual image that was leaked yesterday. :)

EDIT

I guess you mean the Sky Box is connected to more than 1 TV, if so maybe this will do the trick as it says it is auto switching.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1382780181

Yeah sky box connected would be connected to the living room tv downstairs , I would want to run another hdmi cable from the sky box to the xbox one pass thru in my man cave (upstairs) , I take it this means the same picture couldn't be shown both downstairs and upstairs with a hdmi splitter , just thinking for when the footy is on , my wife watching downstairs , me watching upstairs with it "snapped" on to my screen whilst gaming ...... Sounds awesome but I'm not sure it would work !!!

SnoopZ 26-10-2013 12:20

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35637032)
Yeah sky box connected would be connected to the living room tv downstairs , I would want to run another hdmi cable from the sky box to the xbox one pass thru in my man cave (upstairs) , I take it this means the same picture couldn't be shown both downstairs and upstairs with a hdmi splitter , just thinking for when the footy is on , my wife watching downstairs , me watching upstairs with it "snapped" on to my screen whilst gaming ...... Sounds awesome but I'm not sure it would work !!!

If you don't want either to mess with each others viewing maybe getting a second sky box maybe an option as obviously you can only watch the same thing on 1 TV at a time, although there would be a multi room charge for this i am unsure how much sky would charge.

Bulky 26-10-2013 12:40

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35637060)
If you don't want either to mess with each others viewing maybe getting a second sky box maybe an option as obviously you can only watch the same thing on 1 TV at a time, although there would be a multi room charge for this i am unsure how much sky would charge.

Yeah , just can't warrant the extra for multi room , very rarely watch anything while I'm gaming unless football is on so normally set my ipad up , just thought it would be handy !!

adzii_nufc 26-10-2013 20:35

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So yeah. Call of Duty ghosts can only run at 720p on the Xbox one. Genius really. How do we make a console that flops harder than a dreamcast? Good job lads you've nailed it.

Ah Microsoft have an embargo in place after Journalists discovered something about the Xbox one. Best guess is all games run at 720 rather than 1080.

cimt 26-10-2013 20:58

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A quick Google and you'd know that your guess is wrong. Looks like the minimum is going to be atleast 900p. Also, because a third party dev made a game at 720p, doesn't mean a console will flop. IW always go for framerate over resolution from my experience.

Damien 26-10-2013 21:48

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Also it is unlikely the press wouldn't report this...

adzii_nufc 26-10-2013 22:20

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 35637241)
A quick Google and you'd know that your guess is wrong. Looks like the minimum is going to be atleast 900p. Also, because a third party dev made a game at 720p, doesn't mean a console will flop. IW always go for framerate over resolution from my experience.

You've completely missed the point. Why is it at 1080 on one console and 720 on another?Why is the one with the better resolution cheaper? Why couldn't this third party Dev get their game running at the same resolution?

Better yet does it matter? Yeah when you've been playing in huge resolutions on pc for many years you'd expect a giant like Microsoft to be able to produce a machine equal or better than its next competitor after 6 years of faffing.

One game doesn't make a flop. Years of building a set top box that can play games worse that it's next competitor does though.
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/10/ca...p-on-xbox-one/

This isn't an anti Xbox campaign is simple and very fair questioning of a company that's had years to think about this stuff. It's about paying more to get less. If the price was the same or lower than a PS4 this probably wouldn't be an issue at all.

Damien 26-10-2013 22:37

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35637287)
You've completely missed the point. Why is it at 1080 on one console and 720 on another?Why is the one with the better resolution cheaper? Why couldn't this third party Dev get their game running at the same resolution?

Better yet does it matter? Yeah when you've been playing in huge resolutions on pc for many years you'd expect a giant like Microsoft to be able to produce a machine equal or better than its next competitor after 6 years of faffing.

One game doesn't make a flop. Years of building a set top box that can play games worse that it's next competitor does though.
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/10/ca...p-on-xbox-one/

This isn't an anti Xbox campaign is simple and very fair questioning of a company that's had years to think about this stuff. It's about paying more to get less. If the price was the same or lower than a PS4 this probably wouldn't be an issue at all.

It seems Forza is 1080p so it might be a question of exactly why COD isn't.

adzii_nufc 26-10-2013 22:43

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35637294)
It seems Forza is 1080p so it might be a question of exactly why COD isn't.

Sorry that is my question if I'd confused anybody. It's only multi platform stuff that's affected.
BF4 will only run at 900p on a PS4.

Just found a debate from reddit about this http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...ing_x1_secret/

Damien 26-10-2013 22:47

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Lucky I preordered both consoles. Although I cancelled my PS4 order and redid it later so no launch day release for me.

Bulky 27-10-2013 00:37

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Sorry but I'm just up for the next generation , ps4 games can look a bit shinier for me , it's the innovation I'm interested in and Sony will be playing catch up yet again, their software at launch (operating system ) of ps3 was rubbish ...... And still is IMO ;)

jtaylor06 27-10-2013 01:11

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It's game specific, quite a few of the Xbox One games are utlising 1080@60fps i.e. Forza 5.

adzii_nufc 27-10-2013 01:48

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35637335)
Sorry but I'm just up for the next generation , ps4 games can look a bit shinier for me , it's the innovation I'm interested in and Sony will be playing catch up yet again, their software at launch (operating system ) of ps3 was rubbish ...... And still is IMO ;)

Sony didn't play catch up last time and it won't this time either. It released after the Xbox 360 and once released it outsold the xbox. Their os is standard indeed but it didn't make the slightest difference in sales.

You say innovation...what innovation. Microsoft took anything innovative out of the console after the backlash. Although you can plug your Sky box into your xbox rather than just watch it from your sky box. Then there's the capture side of things regarding twitch which they handily backed right up on and went on to say there would be restrictions rather than the high quality streaming they spoke of at E3.

OS innovation? its just windows 8 for a console.

Look Back at the 360 and PS3 and think innovation. HD gaming. Blu Ray player. Wireless Controllers and motion sensors. High speed online gaming. On board HDDs

This time round. Nothing. Updated hardware.

Now let's be honest and fair. Was it wireless controllers or motion control that made the 360 and PS3 gen so great? Nah. Rockstar games and their ever advancing physics engines. Forza 3 took a huge leap in physics and rendering. GTA IV was massive in terms of innovation. The Last of us, Uncharted, Gears of War and Beyond: Two Souls. The First Modern Warfare lit the stage up for online gaming on consoles or even the huge changes the frostbite engine brought.

They're the true innovators of console gaming not Microsoft or Sony. In 6 years time we'll look back at massive advancements in physics engines not some set top box gimmick and an OS riddled with ads.

Bulky 27-10-2013 09:30

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The features ms talked about , family sharing , game sharing etc , everything talked about in their original vision will return but only for those that embrace the digital media. A console based windows 8 with voice controls and instant snapping and recording sounds pretty innovative to me and it will be interesting how the two os compare. I'm not slating ps4 and there's a good chance in the future I'll buy one but for launch the xbox one is for me, I don't care if ps4 is more powerful that's for the fan boys to rant about its about the whole package for me , dedicated servers for every game, cloud usage from day one, kinect, better exclusives (IMO) , xbox live is streets ahead of psn and the gap is only going to get bigger , do people think that all of a sudden Sony are going to flip a switch and psn is going to be amazing ?, they haven't got the world wide resources and will have to rent them where as microsoft already have their own datacentres worldwide.

colin25 27-10-2013 09:45

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35637393)
The features ms talked about , family sharing , game sharing etc , everything talked about in their original vision will return but only for those that embrace the digital media. A console based windows 8 with voice controls and instant snapping and recording sounds pretty innovative to me and it will be interesting how the two os compare. I'm not slating ps4 and there's a good chance in the future I'll buy one but for launch the xbox one is for me, I don't care if ps4 is more powerful that's for the fan boys to rant about its about the whole package for me , dedicated servers for every game, cloud usage from day one, kinect, better exclusives (IMO) , xbox live is streets ahead of psn and the gap is only going to get bigger , do people think that all of a sudden Sony are going to flip a switch and psn is going to be amazing ?, they haven't got the world wide resources and will have to rent them where as microsoft already have their own datacentres worldwide.

Thanks for reminding me..it was dedicated servers that had me interested originally

SnoopZ 27-10-2013 11:10

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Even though it is possible COD runs at 720P it still doesn't prove the Xbox isn't capable of 1080P.

Also i have seen both the Xbox and the PS4 and in my opinion everything i got to see on PS4 other that Assassins Creeds looked terrible in frame rate compared to what i saw and got to play on the X1 so i am definitely not worried 1 bit and so excited to get the X1 or though i may buy a PS4 in the future if it turns out that the games really are far better than the X1, but at the moment the X1 it is for sure.

I have just seen the latest live feed Forza 5 video and i think it is awesome, so can't wait to play on it again! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOdoPXmSvo

Damien 27-10-2013 11:14

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Xbox Live is still the ace up Microsoft's sleeve certainly. Let's wait and see what happens. Apparently the embargo isn't related to performance issues with the Xbox but some industry inside baseball.

SnoopZ 27-10-2013 11:16

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35637436)
Xbox Live is still the ace up Microsoft's sleeve certainly. Let's wait and see what happens. Apparently the embargo isn't related to performance issues with the Xbox but some industry inside baseball.

What do you mean? :)

Bulky 27-10-2013 11:20

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35637296)
Sorry that is my question if I'd confused anybody. It's only multi platform stuff that's affected.
BF4 will only run at 900p on a PS4.

Just found a debate from reddit about this http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...ing_x1_secret/

This debate snoopz

SnoopZ 27-10-2013 11:22

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35637442)
This debate snoopz

Interesting thanks, i didn't read it all but Neogaff is the worst website on the planet lol.

I hope something official comes out about this very soon.

Bulky 27-10-2013 11:24

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It's not xbox related ;) https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSessl...me=AdamSessler

SnoopZ 27-10-2013 11:28

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35637447)

I am a bit confused now lol, are we saying something about the X1 hardware is not good news for X1 gamers or what? :)

edit

Oh i see it is something about Youtube removing videos that are not official, no big deal then. :)

Bulky 27-10-2013 11:38

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Someone jumped to the wrong conclusion and it went viral , that's the internet for ya !!!

cimt 27-10-2013 12:44

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I've been reading something about Sony not letting websites do video reviews using an actual PS4, instead they have to use a dev kit which is more powerful than the PS4. Is this the same thing that people are on about with the Xbox One?

adzii_nufc 27-10-2013 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cimt (Post 35637494)
I've been reading something about Sony not letting websites do video reviews using an actual PS4, instead they have to use a dev kit which is more powerful than the PS4. Is this the same thing that people are on about with the Xbox One?

Actually both consoles have restrictions till set dates. The Xbox one is later but it's never been said why.

Damien 27-10-2013 15:00

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Does look like it was a rumour spread by the Internet. Wonder why both consoles have such an embargo though.

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Apparently it's to do with the actual gaming press.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/commen...r_arthur_gies/

adzii_nufc 27-10-2013 15:05

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It's always something daft. The Internet reckon it's because Microsoft don't want ghosts reviewed till as late as possible. Unlikely though as MS could just as easy hand out Forza till then rather than deny access to the console.

Damien 27-10-2013 15:09

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Seems like Sony is preventing access to the console: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1981

v0id 27-10-2013 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35637550)
Seems like Sony is preventing access to the console: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1981


The PS4 thread is here ;)

adzii_nufc 27-10-2013 15:19

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Well I did mention the PS4 and persistent crashing. Who knows.

MadGamer 27-10-2013 17:02

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How many weeks till release? Is it three or four?

SnoopZ 27-10-2013 19:20

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Originally Posted by MadGamer (Post 35637589)
How many weeks till release? Is it three or four?

26 days.

adzii_nufc 27-10-2013 20:00

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It was inevitable. The trolls are upon us.
http://i.imgur.com/sNgltsP.gif

SnoopZ 28-10-2013 10:15

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Another dashboard demo, i think it looks great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EMm6hYafNM

SnoopZ 28-10-2013 17:09

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Kinect Sports Rivals Preseason trial will be free to install on the console release, not sure why this is news though if it is only a trial?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-one-at-launch

Bulky 28-10-2013 17:30

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35637898)
Another dashboard demo, i think it looks great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EMm6hYafNM

I love it :) can't wait

MadGamer 28-10-2013 17:40

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35637898)
Another dashboard demo, i think it looks great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EMm6hYafNM

Can't wait :)

SnoopZ 29-10-2013 10:54

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Here are 2 Battlefield 4 Xbox One/PS4 comparison videos, it looks the same to me, although i am still not sure what the resolution is on the X1.

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/...ics-comparison

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/bat...html?start=167

Edit- and another one, it seems that the PS4 is running at 900P and the X1 at 720P but they look just as good as each other in the below video, the textures may look better on the X1 in my opinion though.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ce-off-preview

Texture comparisons in this thread, and it is obvious they look better now on X1, which i find strange with its lower resolution but i am happy at those comparisons considering i am getting the X1. :)

Other peoples thoughts on this?

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/11...entry596059637

Bulky 29-10-2013 19:34

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Looks good to me , said it so many times that I don't care if ps4 looks better and it seems to me there is nothing between them, if anything texture wise the xbox one has the edge and judging by the posts I've read it's only going to look better on release day .

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Eurogamer botched their xbox one footage ;)

SnoopZ 29-10-2013 22:05

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35638497)
Looks good to me , said it so many times that I don't care if ps4 looks better and it seems to me there is nothing between them, if anything texture wise the xbox one has the edge and judging by the posts I've read it's only going to look better on release day .

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Eurogamer botched their xbox one footage ;)

Something to do with the RGB output i think i read but it was also made clear on other articles it still wouldn't affect the result with the X1 having better textures. :)

Tezcatlipoca 29-10-2013 22:36

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"EA: Titanfall will remain exclusive to Xbox, PC"

Quote:

PlayStation and Nintendo fans hoping to play Respawn Entertainment's first-person shooter Titanfall on their consoles appear to be out of luck. The game will remain exclusive to Xbox One, Xbox 360, and PC "for the life of the title," Electronic Arts CFO Blake Jorgensen said today during an earnings call.

(snip)

Great news! :D

SnoopZ 29-10-2013 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35638594)

Excellent!

adzii_nufc 31-10-2013 11:04

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http://www.oxm.co.uk/65190/video-one...e-on-xbox-one/

Just a gameplay video, wouldn't judge graphics or res given they seem to have recorded it using a pants capture card or the xbox itself (recording feature). Seems to be a few texture bugs lingering about but to be fair this game has never interested me so I'm not bothered.

SnoopZ 01-11-2013 08:39

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I am thinking of cancelling my x1 order based on the resolution difference on launch titles and buying the cheaper ps4 console and then waiting to see what happens, any views on my possible decision?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...?page=comments

Stephen 01-11-2013 09:02

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I really don't see that as a big enough reason to cancel.

Put it this way, if no info leaked then would you even notice?

It's the same on current gen systems. Not all games are actually in 720p or 1080p. The systems upscale to the output resolution.

SnoopZ 01-11-2013 10:42

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35639547)
I really don't see that as a big enough reason to cancel.

Put it this way, if no info leaked then would you even notice?

It's the same on current gen systems. Not all games are actually in 720p or 1080p. The systems upscale to the output resolution.

Just reading the link i posted put me off a little as they said the pixel count was obvious.

I will scratch my head for a few weeks before i make a decision i think as i really would like to stick with X1 but it does look like most games will be 720p compared to most games on PS4 closer to 1080P and both consoles obviously both have room for improvement overtime.

I only want 1 console though grrr. lol

Uncle Peter 01-11-2013 11:07

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Just buy both?

Forza and GT (in the future) not a good enough reason to fill the shelves on your telly unit?

SnoopZ 01-11-2013 11:13

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I don't really have time to play games that often though so buying both would be a waste, i need to stick to 1 console i think.

Maybe i will just take the risk and stick with X1 as i do prefer the games lineup for the exclusives next year so it is just the resolution issue bugging me now.

Bulky 01-11-2013 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35639591)
I don't really have time to play games that often though so buying both would be a waste, i need to stick to 1 console i think.

Maybe i will just take the risk and stick with X1 as i do prefer the games lineup for the exclusives next year so it is just the resolution issue bugging me now.

I really don't see the problem ?? , if the gameplay is good enough and it looks good , hell people are arguing over 4 fps difference on some forums for gods sake and how defined a seagull looks and power lines in the distance , who the hell cares when the difference is so small , in full flow they look near identical , paused the xbox one looks more defined. Xbox live and the smooth operating system is still the key to microsofts success.

SnoopZ 01-11-2013 18:38

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I am still in 2 minds and it is the first time i have wavered since placing my X1 preorder.

My problem is i don't like jaggies and i can see jaggies on my 22in monitor on those comparison videos so it will look worse on a 40in TV.

I will likely keep my X1 order but when i see videos like this it makes me think otherwise as it looks great with very little jaggies.

Tezcatlipoca 01-11-2013 19:23

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I'm sticking with the Xbox One at launch and a PS4 next year when Naughty Dog (hopefully) bring something out.

(based upon current gen) I prefer the controller and I prefer the online system.

It's not like all games are going to be 720p... Forza is 1080p, and others will be.

IIRC from reading it last night, that DF article mentioned that the issue with Ghosts and BF4 may have been because they're 3rd party launch titles and MS had been moving the goalposts regarding the spec and the drivers.

If the final specs and drivers were not locked down in time, IW and DICE may have had to "play it safe" and aim for 720p just in case, due to not knowing what the final system would be like.

Damien 01-11-2013 21:31

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XBOX One will have DNLA support and play CDs:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/artic...dlna-streaming

tizmeinnit 01-11-2013 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35639843)
XBOX One will have DNLA support and play CDs:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/artic...dlna-streaming

I spose same as the tv stuff it will require a live sub :(

SnoopZ 01-11-2013 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35639827)
Does the PS3 take SSDs? I know you can use hybrids.


I read somewhere the HDD had to be greater than 160GB and SATAII, not sure about SSDs though, although 1 of those would be seriously expensive.

---------- Post added at 22:13 ---------- Previous post was at 22:11 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35639845)
I spose same as the tv stuff it will require a live sub :(

A topic for the Xbox One thread i guess but live will likely cost £30ish a year so not too bad.

tizmeinnit 01-11-2013 22:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35639856)
I read somewhere the HDD had to be greater than 160GB and SATAII, not sure about SSDs though, although 1 of those would be seriously expensive.

---------- Post added at 22:13 ---------- Previous post was at 22:11 ----------



A topic for the Xbox One thread i guess but live will likely cost £30ish a year so not too bad.

imo it is ;)

MadGamer 01-11-2013 22:29

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Oddity I had an email from Amazon who said that CoD ghosts is now being pushed back to the 16th Nov, instead of the 5th. Wonder if that has something to do with the resolution?

Tezcatlipoca 01-11-2013 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35639845)
I spose same as the tv stuff it will require a live sub :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35639862)
A topic for the Xbox One thread i guess but live will likely cost £30ish a year so not too bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35639858)
imo it is ;)



I see no reason why it would require XBL Gold on the Xbox One when it doesn't require it on the Xbox 360.

On the 360, you need Gold for multiplayer plus pretty much every app except for BBC iPlayer. You do not need it if you want to play audio CDs, MP3s, or stream media from a DLNA / UPnP Media Server.

SnoopZ 01-11-2013 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MadGamer (Post 35639864)
Oddity I had an email from Amazon who said that CoD ghosts is now being pushed back to the 16th Nov, instead of the 5th. Wonder if that has something to do with the resolution?

Unlikely, i think we're stuck at 720p on these launch games.

Tezcatlipoca 01-11-2013 22:37

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Far too late for them to do anything about the resolution in that space of time.

I think it is simply Amazon being stupid, given that the Xbox One itself won't be out by the 5th of November... or even the 16th!

Harryn9000 02-11-2013 02:15

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pretty sure the dev could send updates down to fix the res issues, xb1 is gonna be better console i'm sure on it look at video for BF4 comparison there is no difference at all, i cannot wait to get my hands on my one

MadGamer 02-11-2013 06:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35639868)
Far too late for them to do anything about the resolution in that space of time.

I think it is simply Amazon being stupid, given that the Xbox One itself won't be out by the 5th of November... or even the 16th!

Agreed, why would they release a game before the actual console is stupid

SnoopZ 02-11-2013 09:42

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It makes sense to get the games before you get the console though or you may end up with no games to play on the console.

adzii_nufc 02-11-2013 12:56

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BF4 PC - http://imgur.com/a/48o0Y

BF4 X1 - http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/m..._4_31_605x.jpg

Not disappointed though as I have a PC that'll play it like that. I won't be buying the X1 this year nor will I be buying the PS4. I completely forgot why I was buying them. There's no point in me buying COD or BF4 for both when they look better on the superior platform. I think my main swing was Forza but having now played it I can't say I'll be that bothered. Titanfall is also PC and Halo 5 or another Gears game would be the only reason for me to purchase. Gears or Halo please :D

SnoopZ 02-11-2013 13:34

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I won't ever compare with a PC as that is not how i want to play my games but if a PC is going to be your choice of gaming platform then stick to that. I decided several years ago a console was for me for gaming as it was more for a living room, even though my desktop PC is in my living room and always on.

Can't wait to to get my hands on a console now.

adzii_nufc 02-11-2013 13:43

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I loved the 360 and still do. I'm just annoyed consoles are lagging so far behind now. I don't expect it to look close to a PC but I do expect it to at least try. I'll probably wait to see what rockstar can produce for these consoles before properly judging. Saying that though I laughed at the Steam Box... I'm not laughing anymore and neither should Microsoft or Sony.

Regardless I'll always vote XBL over PSN or PC. Everything feels so much neater and simpler on XBL. As I've said before though. Developers will define this generation not the consoles. Rockstar will produce something amazing bigger than anything they've ever done.

Something I will need though is the X1 controller for PC. Far superior thumb stick location to a PS controller . Just hope they're properly optimised for both and the thumb sticks don't just move wherever they want like the 360 controller did on PC. I'll kit it like a scuf controller anyway.

SnoopZ 02-11-2013 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35639970)
I loved the 360 and still do. I'm just annoyed consoles are lagging so far behind now. I don't expect it to look close to a PC but I do expect it to at least try. I'll probably wait to see what rockstar can produce for these consoles before properly judging. Saying that though I laughed at the Steam Box... I'm not laughing anymore and neither should Microsoft or Sony.

Regardless I'll always vote XBL over PSN or PC. Everything feels so much neater and simpler on XBL. As I've said before though. Developers will define this generation not the consoles. Rockstar will produce something amazing bigger than anything they've ever done.

Something I will need though is the X1 controller for PC. Far superior thumb stick location to a PS controller . Just hope they're properly optimised for both and the thumb sticks don't just move wherever they want like the 360 controller did on PC

I think they have tried on Battlefield, i think this PC Xbox One comparison video is pretty damn close considering the cost of a PC to run it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9RCbkZc7w#t=328

adzii_nufc 02-11-2013 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35639975)
I think they have tried on Battlefield, i think this PC Xbox One comparison video is pretty damn close considering the cost of a PC to run it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9RCbkZc7w#t=328

The video shows a console at its full potential but a PC at a quarter. The images I posted were at 4k res if you're wondering why they look different from the video. Do consoles have 4k support? I swear I've seen it somewhere. That could help me change opinion

Harryn9000 02-11-2013 14:23

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xbox 1 has 4k support as far as am aware

SnoopZ 02-11-2013 14:42

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4K support for movies only i believe just like the PS4.

Harryn9000 02-11-2013 14:56

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didn't they do a demo for forza 5 on 4k tv in 4k

Tezcatlipoca 03-11-2013 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35639868)
Far too late for them to do anything about the resolution in that space of time.

I think it is simply Amazon being stupid, given that the Xbox One itself won't be out by the 5th of November... or even the 16th!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadGamer (Post 35639896)
Agreed, why would they release a game before the actual console is stupid

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35639912)
It makes sense to get the games before you get the console though or you may end up with no games to play on the console.


Seems I was wrong... it really is being released before the console itself.

SnoopZ 04-11-2013 17:42

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Here is a really good comparison video for Battlefield 4 between all the consoles, current gen and next gen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdIpSpJyWSY

Stephen 04-11-2013 18:08

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35640715)
Here is a really good comparison video for Battlefield 4 between all the consoles, current gen and next gen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdIpSpJyWSY

Will I think the Xbox ONe and PS4 versions look pretty similar I personally think the Xbox One version looks just that bit nicer.

Both next gen do look a lot better that current gen though.

Just gutted I can't get a One till at least next year :td:

Bulky 04-11-2013 18:12

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Will be interesting to see the difference between cod ghosts ps4 and xbox one , it seems xbox one upscaling is the mutts nuts because there really isn't a difference and in motion no difference at all , I'm 100% happy with my decision and can't wait for the 23rd :)

SnoopZ 04-11-2013 18:22

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I think the textures look better on the X1 version of BF4, just hope it looks as good on my 40in TV.

Roll on the 22nd November and it is a Friday i am on early shift so any missed delivery from Tescos i should be able to atleast get it by Saturday.

Bulky 04-11-2013 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35640749)
I think the textures look better on the X1 version of BF4, just hope it looks as good on my 40in TV.

Roll on the 22nd November and it is a Friday i am on early shift so any missed delivery from Tescos i should be able to atleast get it by Saturday.

And just read that cod ghost textures look better also , should have said roll on 22nd not 23rd , I have the day off :)

SnoopZ 04-11-2013 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35640755)
And just read that cod ghost textures look better also , should have said roll on 22nd not 23rd , I have the day off :)

I like to read, do you have a link to that please? :)

---------- Post added at 18:55 ---------- Previous post was at 18:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35640739)
Will I think the Xbox ONe and PS4 versions look pretty similar I personally think the Xbox One version looks just that bit nicer.

Both next gen do look a lot better that current gen though.

Just gutted I can't get a One till at least next year :td:


A Shame you couldnt get it on day 1 with a free Forza 5 or Fifa, this is the reason i snapped it up.

MadGamer 04-11-2013 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35640755)
And just read that cod ghost textures look better also , should have said roll on 22nd not 23rd , I have the day off :)

I have six days off including the 22nd :D

Bulky 04-11-2013 19:22

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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/0...on-playstation
Was reading between the lines on this article , that's what makes me think the xbox one is very good at upscaling ;)

adzii_nufc 04-11-2013 20:36

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All current generation consoles were good at up scaling so they wouldn't have an excuse for it to be any different now.

We've had word from the Pcars dev team saying they're considering a push for next generation consoles. It wouldn't be too hard to do given the current PC version at top specs beat both new consoles thus making it relatively simple to port it over and simply tweak till it's playing well.

Why is this of any importance? Forza & GT could be in real trouble. This game is simply unbelievable and if they can get it to similar levels that they've got it performing on pc over to the Xbox then you're laughing. Forza and GT may have numerous more licences but Pcars looks better, plays better and has huge game play variety for hardcore racing simulation fans when compared to these two.

PCARS for Xbox one! R.I.P Forza

Side note: anyone else loving the low key COD launch tonight? it's about time their numbers dropped and they got a kick in the arse. Moving fish heh. Good Riddance. Roll on the REAL infinity ward and Titanfall

Stephen 05-11-2013 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35640761)


A Shame you couldnt get it on day 1 with a free Forza 5 or Fifa, this is the reason i snapped it up.

Well sadly a wedding in 7 months and also I currently have no job so deffo no Xbox One for me :(

SnoopZ 05-11-2013 11:47

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Damn sorry to hear about your job, really bad timing

nstokes 05-11-2013 13:36

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Just been catching up this thread and im not to concerned about the Ghost res issue. I say this as from what ive read they did try it at 1080p but framerate was an issue. Until both consoles are launched then we have no actual way of knowing which console it looks better on.

The way i see it is if some 3rd party games are in 720p on Xbox One at launch then means they can only go up in res in the future. If it means i cant see as many strands of hair on somebody in the game but have the better console overall then so be it. I would much rather have a better console than an extra few strands of hair on a solider in Ghosts.

Forza runs at 1080p so it does prove the console its self is capable of this. Just means 3rd party devs will need extra time to get to grips with it. Dont forget Turn 10 will have had longer to code for the Xbox One than IW did as well as the fact they have only had to code for Xbox One where as IW has had to code for multiple console and the PC. Give it time and Xbox One will run most games at 1080p in the future.

On a side note only 17 days to go. These 17 days will drag like hell. The actual morning day will also drag while i wait for the delivery. I am hoping i will be an AM slot for delivery and not an PM slot

Stephen 05-11-2013 13:39

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Well if their reasons for making the game run at 720p are so they could maintain the 60fps then that is better than getting it 1080p at only 30fps.

However if the console then still upscales and its still 60fps, and its not really noticable then fantastic :-)

nstokes 05-11-2013 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35641017)
Well if their reasons for making the game run at 720p are so they could maintain the 60fps then that is better than getting it 1080p at only 30fps.

However if the console then still upscales and its still 60fps, and its not really noticable then fantastic :-)

I totally agree. Just seen the Video on IGN and says it is upscaled so i cant see there being a massive difference, 99% of us prob wont even notice the difference

cimt 05-11-2013 14:36

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
I've just read that COD actually struggles with the framerate a bit. I think it was something to do with smoke that caused it to drop.

SnoopZ 05-11-2013 15:41

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You guys may want to reconsider buying Ghosts because it looks like crap in this 360,ps3,ps4 comparison video, definitely not next gen in my opinion compared to the BF4 video comparison video, am i being too harsh on it what do you guys think?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/0...-ghosts-review

adzii_nufc 05-11-2013 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35641050)
You guys may want to reconsider buying Ghosts because it looks like crap in this 360,ps3,ps4 comparison video, definitely not next gen in my opinion compared to the BF4 video comparison video, am i being too harsh on it what do you guys think?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/0...-ghosts-review

I did warn you all! :D

As for the lag. Fps lag has been common since MW3 its the development rather than consoles.

Stephen 05-11-2013 17:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35641050)
You guys may want to reconsider buying Ghosts because it looks like crap in this 360,ps3,ps4 comparison video, definitely not next gen in my opinion compared to the BF4 video comparison video, am i being too harsh on it what do you guys think?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/0...-ghosts-review

Dont think it looks bad at all. Notice they reviewed on Xbox One as well but their views on that are embargo'd.

SnoopZ 05-11-2013 17:24

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Embargoed for another week i thought i heard.

MadGamer 05-11-2013 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35641013)
On a side note only 17 days to go. These 17 days will drag like hell. The actual morning day will also drag while i wait for the delivery. I am hoping i will be an AM slot for delivery and not an PM slot

Fingers crossed for me too. I have the 22nd and the following week off :D

adzii_nufc 05-11-2013 18:24

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As long as people keep buying COD it'll continue getting worse. It's been that way since they binned the original Infiinity Ward. If people stopped buying it they'd actually make an effort to get it to level it was at in COD 4.All I see now is a game that's constaantly dumbed down each year so that the skill requirement is that of a 3 year old. Luckily due to GTA V theres no game that's coming close to that financial record due to ridiculous sales and because not everyone will be NG for about 4-5 years.

I urge you all to instead look at Titanfall (The REAL Infinity ward) and support a game that's actually worth £40

However SnoopZ was right, the difference between NG and CG versions are minimal. Would you expect anything less from a company that sells the same product each year with a few new maps?

Solution is simple, we kill the batman. No seriously though, a 1080p upgraded COD 4 with new maps and additional weapons would get more praise than this rubbish.

Stephen 05-11-2013 22:46

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35641102)
As long as people keep buying COD it'll continue getting worse. It's been that way since they binned the original Infiinity Ward. If people stopped buying it they'd actually make an effort to get it to level it was at in COD 4.All I see now is a game that's constaantly dumbed down each year so that the skill requirement is that of a 3 year old. Luckily due to GTA V theres no game that's coming close to that financial record due to ridiculous sales and because not everyone will be NG for about 4-5 years.

I urge you all to instead look at Titanfall (The REAL Infinity ward) and support a game that's actually worth £40

However SnoopZ was right, the difference between NG and CG versions are minimal. Would you expect anything less from a company that sells the same product each year with a few new maps?

Solution is simple, we kill the batman. No seriously though, a 1080p upgraded COD 4 with new maps and additional weapons would get more praise than this rubbish.

tbh it's the first wave of next gen games. Give it a year or two for devs to really get to grips with the hardware. Same happened with current gen. Look back at graphics on launch games compared to now.

If you go to the official Titanfall site you can download a 1080p @ 30fps video of multiplayer. It looks spectacular, video is over 900mb for only a few minutes of gameplay though. Very high bit rate.


There is a lot more to the COD games each year. More so when it used to alternate between the two dev teams.

adzii_nufc 05-11-2013 23:16

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35641222)
tbh it's the first wave of next gen games. Give it a year or two for devs to really get to grips with the hardware. Same happened with current gen. Look back at graphics on launch games compared to now.

If you go to the official Titanfall site you can download a 1080p @ 30fps video of multiplayer. It looks spectacular, video is over 900mb for only a few minutes of gameplay though. Very high bit rate.


There is a lot more to the COD games each year. More so when it used to alternate between the two dev teams.

Like what? A dog or some moving fish? It's MW3 reskinned and with a name change. They aren't fooling anyone when we all know it's just another Modern Warfare game. The MW series died with Infinity Ward. I think 3ARC produce better COD games than the fake Infinity Ward which I think you've mentioned in that last bit. Honestly it has to be 3ARC taking over full time or remaking COD 4 because the reviews activision haven't bought currently have this at 5/10. Hopefully the nail in the coffin.

Modern Warfare 1-2, Sensational. (Infinity Ward)
Modern Warfare 3-4, Awful. (Fake Infinity Ward)
Black Ops 1-2 Brilliant. (Treyarch)
I think the cause is quite clear.

You're right though there is more to COD games but I think it's every 2 years because It's Treyarch that bring the changes.

Stephen 06-11-2013 11:47

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35641229)
Like what? A dog or some moving fish? It's MW3 reskinned and with a name change. They aren't fooling anyone when we all know it's just another Modern Warfare game. The MW series died with Infinity Ward. I think 3ARC produce better COD games than the fake Infinity Ward which I think you've mentioned in that last bit. Honestly it has to be 3ARC taking over full time or remaking COD 4 because the reviews activision haven't bought currently have this at 5/10. Hopefully the nail in the coffin.

Modern Warfare 1-2, Sensational. (Infinity Ward)
Modern Warfare 3-4, Awful. (Fake Infinity Ward)
Black Ops 1-2 Brilliant. (Treyarch)
I think the cause is quite clear.

You're right though there is more to COD games but I think it's every 2 years because It's Treyarch that bring the changes.

Not sure what you mean by fake Infinity Ward? It was started by Infinity and then due to lay offs and issues due to Activision and former execs another team(Sledgehammer games) were brought in to help finish the game off with Raven software updating the menus.

Also where is Modern Warfare 4? I don't remember that one.

Many of the changes are under the hood. Improvements to the game engine, new versions of the engine and physics.

I enjoyed playing all the COD games though. Don't think I've thought any of them were awful per say.

Personally I can't wait to eventually get hold of the new game and eventually the Xbox One.

Although you may want to get Ghosts on the WiiU as its Treyarch that developed that console version :)

Harryn9000 06-11-2013 12:40

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
cod games have been terrible since they removed tanks out of it that was wow it been same rubbish every year just getting worse each time i am not buying at all it a waste of money in my opinion BF4 is quality game ps4/ xbox one video u couldn't tell the difference

SnoopZ 06-11-2013 16:40

Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
Oh dear lol........

Ghosts cut scene copied from MW2, that is ridiculous.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/0...dern-warfare-2


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