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For me

Basic
win98
98se
me
xp
xp64
vista
win7
win8
bit of Ubuntu and Mac OSX hackintosh on accassions

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Windows 8 for me, then 7 then XP then Vista. Before that, the previous OS I used was 98.

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Yet ANOTHER reason windows 8 is the worst OS Microsoft EVER released

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I hate the tile look too which can now be 100% avoided with Windows 8.1. :)

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I have windows 8 and never see the tiles as I use startisback. From what the majority of you guys have said so far I can't see any reason to use 8.1 or am I missing something?

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you can set windows 8.1 to never see tiles if you don't want to without 3rd party software

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With 8.1 you don't really need addons, you can boot to the desktop and have the start screen the same as your windows background and also set the start page for apps view only as default which i think looks really nice and i can't see a problem with it as a replacement start menu, it is also easier to close windows down from the desktop now than it was with 8 without adding any extra crap.

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So apart from the start setup change what would be the point of using 8.1?

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I am sure there are more important things in it, but seeing that it is a FREE new version of windows and not a service pack i would get it. :)

I went from feeling a little out of place in Windows 8 to feeling that the whole OS for 8.1 finally fell together and i am so happy with it, and this is coming from someone who hated the start screen but now never use it apart from an apps menu which looks great.

http://www.itpro.co.uk/mobile/20091/...op-10-upgrades

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Exactly.

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why? there are changes under the hood just because you do nto see then does not mean they are not there

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Still running Windows 8.1.

The only thing that is annoying me about it is the graphic corruption I am getting on Battlefield 3, don't get it on Windows 7 and don't get it on any other games.

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I am still running Windows 8 and I have no intention of updating Windows 8.1 after hearing the problems that some are having.

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It is only some people having problems the majority don't have problems, maybe you will change your mind in a month or so. :)

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Windows 8.1 RT is now back in the store for download as that problem has been fixed apparently.

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the why was to you exactly post which was to the other post saying there is no point. There is there are lots of under the hood changes

I would not upgrade without a system image but I would still upgrade as there are plenty of other implements than a start button

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Thanks for the offer, but I have found it.

It won't current play as it says my graphic card is not compatible, downloading the update at slower than dial-up.

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Let me know how you get on I've not tried it on my laptop yet.

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I am shocked as i am still running 8.1 as well :shocked:

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Sirius mate i have lost count on how many times you have gone back to 7 and said that is it for Windows 8 for you.

Do you think you will stick with it this time? :)

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update fixed it, now waiting for wifi fix

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The only issue had when I upgraded was my WiFi was stuck on 'Limited' despite numerous router reboots. Ended up plugging in the ethernet cable and running Windows Update that picked up a Broadcom driver update which fixed it luckily

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Take this with a pinch of salt but rumour is ms may add the start menu back in the next version.

http://www.neowin.net/news/start-men...reshold-update

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Fixed it I used this link, but downloaded the windows 8 64bit and extraced it to the HDD, and followed the instruction to find the driver

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...llReplies#tabs

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Well, after running Windows 8 pretty much since release ,and a fresh install of 8.1 since release, I am going back to Windows 7.

I've never really used the extra features of Windows 8, my external hard drive (A Western Digital one, so not a fly-by-night make) has for a long time been causing the USB Mass Storage driver to crash (this doesn't happen on OSX, so I don't think the drive is at fault) and the machine appears to have lost it's mouse pointer. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Mouse driver and display driver (even replacing the display driver with the one provided by Windows Update) has not cured this.

The only way I can see around this is a full OS install. If I'm going to do that, and I'm getting little advantage from Windows 8 and a few annoyances, I might as well go back to 7.


Sadly, I don't have Windows 7 on DVD or USB, and I don't have any blank DVDs or USBs large enough for Windows 7, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow.

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I've tried windows 8 a few times, but it's just not good enough, for me anyway.

I'm still on Windows 7, because it just works.

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I've always been indecisive (I think....) and to be honest there's nothing on 8 (or 8.1) that has made me feel I couldn't live without it. I've always maintained I prefer the look, feel and theme of 7 and as I tend to format my machine every few months or so I'm thinking a return is due.

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Still using Windows 8.1 with startisback for my start menu. I am only running it because microsoft removed my windows 7 key. Having said that 8.1 does work fine.

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Start menu could return to Windows before Threshold's release -- Windows 8.1 to be updated?

Talk of the Start menu has been rife in recent days and it something that people have been begging for since the release of Windows 8 saw it wrenched from the operating system. Now it seems as though we could see the return of the Start menu sooner than expected.

There has been speculation that Threshold -- the codename for the next big Windows release -- could be the release that sees Microsoft adding the Start menu back. But if Mary Jo Foley is to be believed we may not have to wait that long. Writing for ZDNet, Foley cites unnamed sources who claim that the Start menu is due to make a reappearance.

Internally it is being referred to as "mini-Start" there are no hints as to just what form the menu may take, but the fact that it is not just being called the Start menu should probably be taken as indicative that it is going to be different to the menu found in Windows 7. The obvious conclusion to jump to would be that it is a smaller menu.

May it will be a miniature version of the Start screen -- not quite the Start menu we all came to know and love, but getting close to it. There is no official word on quite what form mini-Start will take but the question that is going to be on everyone's lips is "when will we see it?".

The obvious suggestion would be that it will show its face when Threshold is released, but Foley suggests that it could see the light of day before then. She refers to a rumored "Update 1" for Windows 8.1. Could this service pack style be the vehicle that is used? If so, we the Start menu could be back with us as early as spring next year!

What form do you want the Start menu to take? Would you be happy with a straight lift from Windows 7 or would you prefer something slightly different?

http://www.winbeta.org/news/start-me...-81-be-updated

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I think the 'Start Button' is a bit like JLS. keep promising us that they're splitting up. and we're getting impatient waiting for them to go away.

when all they're doing really is having a break, and they're going to come back after The Big Reunion.

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prefer windows without the start menu hope it a choice to disable it

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I've actually sorted out the problems I was having, so am going to stay on Windows 8.1 for the moment. I have a couple of legitimately bought applications that I need that have activation limits, so I tend not to wipe the OS on my machine that easily.

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video of the next coming windows 8.1 update 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvxh4...re=c4-overview

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Being fairly new to windows 8.x how do I get widgets?

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Thank god for third party start buttons having watched that video. I am still using windows 8.1 but in real pc mode not phone mode :D

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How many times can I use the same copy of Windows on my laptop before I have to purchase a new license for it? All I can find on Google is people moaning about not being able to install on more than one computer at a time, but nothing about how many times a single license can be used on machine.

As far as I can remember, I have installed it three times onto my laptop. Once when it first came out, then went back to 7, then installed 8 again and had to do a repair install last summer when my laptop had a hissy fit. I know with Office in the past there was a limit of 5 installs before you needed a new license.

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As often as you like, if for whatever reason it doesn't activate you just phone them up.

There is not a limit on installing Office on the same computer.

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Thanks for that, it is what I thought but who knows with MS these days?

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If you own a copy of windows you can continue to install it on the same laptop as often as you like, i am not 100% sure but if you do it several times you just may need to activate over the phone but you don't need to buy a new licence.

A copy of Windows may not active if you change an important component like the HDD, and again in this case you just phone up and explain your situation and you shouldn't need a new licence unless the copy is an OEM copy, but they still may activate it for you.

You generally can't install a copy of windows on more than 1 computer at the same time with the same licence key, i am not sure if that is easy to get away with though.

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I was just thinking of buying an external HD for my images and videos, got around 100 GB sat on my laptop taking up room. So idea was to buy an external drive, move all that onto there and then load up W8 on my laptop and start fresh again.

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Sounds like a plan, now if you got s network HD you could wirelessly access it from other places in the house and stream movies if you watch movies on your laptop or TV/games consoles.

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Watch on my laptop and xBox quite often, mostly Netflix. I'm just paranoid about my hard drive in the laptop dying on me and then I lose all my music, videos and pictures. Not to mention my CV, and other personal letters/documents on there. Think I need to upload them to a few online cloud servers just in case of a massive failure. Only the vital stuff anyway.

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Got all my personal documents saved onto 2 cloud servers, and also on a USB driver heavily encrypted and password protected. So now have at least 3 copies of all my personal documents should the worst happen.

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Excellent. :)

You can always email important documents to yourself don't forget.

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Yeah thinking about doing that as you could have many email accounts with GIG's of space on each.

IE 10 gig for each VM addy and upto 10 addys, 100 giggies...

Just checked and its 15 GB on VM.

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running the new update to 8.1 I like it

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Is that the leaked version ?

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it the original MS files leaked by wzor would not touch any other ones as wzor always official MS leaks

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Just installed them ;)

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it might make you like windows 8 better ;) and it defaults boot to desktop now

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windows 8.1 update 1 confirmed for 8th April next Tuesday patch Tuesday

Paul Thurrott ‏@thurrott · 10m
Windows 8.1 Update 1 available via Windows Update on Tuesday as promised.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/04/36.png

start menu in a future update

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Rejoice Rejoice we will at some stage get The Start menu back on Windows.:hyper::cleader:

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I'm happy for those who want it. As long as I can keep my tiles though.

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The tiles will stay dilli.:)

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Reading between the lines Microsoft intend for the start menu to be back in all its glory in windows 9, i say the sooner the better and considering what a failure windows 8 has been i think it will be sooner rather than later. :)

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Glad the start menu is back and I think it looks good.

It has also been announced that windows or windows phone will be free for all OEM devices small than 9 inches.

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That's what should have been in there from the start......pun intended... :-)

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yeah this failure of an operating system that has a market share of over 10% when you add 8 and 8.1 which is 8 times that of linux and 2.5 % higher than make. If you count that as failure well what do you think about the other 2?

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Clearly its failed to some degree, or they wouldn't have considered changing it back...

MS greatly screwed up thinking that the whole world was going to be using a touch screen interface, and tried to force the issue. Too early & with an interface that *might* be ok on a phone or tablet, but for a desktop environment? come on. There's a reason why desktop/productivity users have a mouse & keyboard, and it's not for sentimentality is it.


Mindset/Tech/UI isn't there yet for a full on touchy only experience. MS bungled it, and are now trying to rectify the situation. Steve Ballmer provided a useful sacrifice too.


I'll be on Windows 8.1 in a day or so, and will be fine, mainly thanks to people that do the Classic Start menu software. I'm comfortably reassured that with 'Metro' out of the way, I'll be happily enjoying the (many) bits of Windows 8 that do work for me in my particular configuration.

I'm also that guy who had ZERO problems or Issues with VIsta and felt that most of the hysteria surrounding that was more due to media frenzy than user issues.

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They were not wrong at all about tablets and mobile interfaces. It is clear there has been a switch to mobile computing . They were just incorrect about the place Windows had in it at this time.

I to had no issues with Vista as I have no issues with Windows 8 and the very fact I was totally correct about there being "fixes" for the start menu straight away and always has been all along means that windows 8 in all fairness is no different to any other windows operating system since 95. People are afraid of change

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so true that mate I never had 1 problem with windows 8 since it came out I am running 8.1 update 1 since it was leaked it very good it should stop some of moaning about windows 8 and after this update 1 is officially released on Tuesday in the next update the start menu will be back sometime later this year that should stop lot of the moaning too I have not missed the start menu one bit much quicker without it IMHO but with it coming back that should stop lots of people complaining too.


I LOVE MY WINDOWS 8 ;););)

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Codswallop tiz as if it ain't broke don't try to fix it as what we had before was perfectly adequate for many of us.:)

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I personally would like to see advancements in technology settling for "perfectly adequate" simply is not what IT and technology is about. So I take umbridge at your accusation that I was talking codswallop

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The thing is before Window 8 the vast majority were happy wherever once that was released the unhappiness and chaos unfolded as customers unleashed their ire at the mess Microsoft had got itself into over this.

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the thing is Den lots of customers love Windows 8 too it the haters that been most vocal but it don't disguise the fact lots love it too and as tiz rightly said People are afraid of change as was same when first big UI change from windows 3.11 to windows 95 same happened then too

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Windows suffers this every other release since win 98 irrelevant because people do not like change

The vast majority were happy with windows 95 do you think we should all still be on that?

People were happy with VHS, Audio Tape and CRT televisions does that mean we should stop trying to improve?

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exactly mate :clap::clap::clap::clap:

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MS dropped the ball in assuming that the mobile interface was a one stop solution for all forms of computing, then compounded it by losing the start menu too, bad mentality, I expect they felt because they had done similar with the Office suite and it's fricking stupid 'navigation ribbon' that they could make what changes they liked and we'd all go along with it quietly....

I expect if things like start8 and windows classics apps hadn't been available, the complaining would have been much worse, and we'd have had change already. I know If I'd been forced into metro only I'd not have gone with Windows 8 as my desktop workflow isn't practical using that type of device interface.

What will be interesting will be how the new CEO will choose to play things, and what Windows 9 will be like. Ballmer wasn't.... entirely right in the head.

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Funny that we are moving all our Pc's over to windows 7 at the moment, if windows 8 was that good why have they not used that instead. I use windows 8 but only because i can use startisback to make it as easy to use as windows 7. As long as there is a start menu and the mobile phone interface can be hidden for ever in the background then i will move to windows 9 as soon as its ready. Had the chance to use a windows 8 pro tablet and its clunky compared with Android and Ipad.

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Don't be silly, we should still be on Windows 2000 ;)

Windows 8 is super fast and is much better underneath than the previous windows. Unfortunately the GUI upgrade in the way they done it is counter-intuitive and so many agree that it is a complete failure that Microsoft are adding the Start menu back. They should have just spiced up the look a little and kept the usability similar to Windows 95/98/xp/vista/7.

Change for the sake of change is where they screwed up. No doubt some PR guy or someone with a 'Systems Architecture Futurist' type job description had to qualify their large salary by coming up with an idea that sounded great for the executives meetings. Something they could repeat to sound great, something like Unified Desktop Experience Across all Devices. Then explain that users of one device can use the other just fine and there is reduced marketing/production costs and those execs are sold!

Funny how MS insisted on pushing this touchscreen GUI out when the majority of PC users don't have touch screens and thus hate it. They are desperately trying to get people to use Windows 8 yet people who are moving from XP, now they are cutting off the support, are choosing to install Windows 7 instead of 8. At least now they have recognised what most of us have said from the start and bringing the Start menu back to solve their Metro failure.

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windows 8 is that good newui just puts people off using the better operating system

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yep and lot of people prefer the new UI too just the haters that shout the loudest

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Its not the haters shouting loudest at all Dave but about their utter balls up which has severely dented their reputation with a lot of customers and all they are trying to do now is playing catch up in order to try to restore their reputation with a lot of customers.

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no it not a balls up it people don't like change this happened too when the first UI changed from windows 3.11 to windows 95 there doing right thing in making all there devices similar so can use there services on all their devices don't know why people cant see this

do you think Apple would have different OS's on their devices not a chance but because Microsoft make a OS for all their devices they are evil according to some people

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Heh that's funny I don't know a single person who cried over the loss Windows 3xx it was shocking compared to 95


I suppose some gamers when their DOS orientated games didn't play so nice perhaps...

I used both in business, and whilst the 95 series didn't properly settle down until W2K even the earlier versions were miles better than the Win 3xxx

We mostly used NT4 anyway in the end, had the 95 look but absolutely rock solid under that - unless you were a gamer I suppose.

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But the Ipad and iphone interfaces has not been implemented in OSX has it ???

Anyway here's a good review of the next 8.1 update of the update ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLiIKmCidVw

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they making it so you don't have to see the metro though if you don't want to so they listened to them customers and who know what apple will do with OSX in future it never gonna have the user base of windows though is it

all Micosoft is doing is unifying there OS for all their devices

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yes windows 95 was far better than windows 3.11 but that didn't stop lots people complaining because it was different the point I was making people don't like change

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i don't mind change when its an improvement, since when has metro or what ever its called this week been an improvement for a desktop machine. As a mobile interface on a phone or touch screen its fine but as a keyboard and mouse interface its jokingly stupid. It does not take a lot of intelligence to see that they should have allowed the start menu to be selected if wanted on desktops as a CHOICE. But hey that's Microsoft all over to be honest force anything they feel is correct even if wrong onto people then sack the guy who implemented it when it all goes spectacularly wrong. Now they are in a position where they are back peddling faster that a nun who walked into a brothel by mistake.

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yes sirus mate Microsoft didn't handle the change the best way and maybe should have changed slowly rather that big change straight away I use mouse and keyboard and no intention of getting a touch screen and find it works fine with windows 8 but think even you agree the changes they are making to windows 8 is better and we know the start menu is coming back either later this year or next year in windows 9.

as you well know I prefer the new UI over the start menu but I totally agree with you there should been a choice that's the biggest mistake Microsoft made on 8

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Agree with you fully :tu:

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People are happy with change if
a) it doesn't happen too quickly, and
b) it brings a real advantage to them.

You mention VHS, Audio Tape and CRTs.. Those were all technologies where the replacements brought definite and real advantages to the user. Usually quality of reproduction (although I still think CRT produces better colours than either LCD or LED).

Actually I'm glad you mentioned VHS and Audio Tape, because the replacements for them are good examples of where people readily accepted change. In both cases, people spent (in some cases) a lot of money on media they already had just to get the advantages of the new format (be it CD or DVD). In both cases, CD and DVD (particularly DVD) eventually killed the technology they were replacing.

Please tell me the advantages that the start screen brings over the start menu. The only one I can see is Tiles, but that doesn't give me anything I need when using my desktop PC, and even when I do need information it can provide, it's far easier to access on my phone. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that the way Microsoft have implemented them in Windows 8, Tiles even get in the way of how I want to use my PC. That's not a good thing for any user interface element.

Also Microsoft forced the change upon their users. If they have offered it as an option, I don't think people would be avoiding Windows 8 as much (bearing in mind that has some real advantages over Windows 7 under the bonnet).

As for Windows 8 not being a failure (which is a point you made the other day) with 10% of the market. It has attained that market share after over a year of sales. This is, I believe, the slowest rate of adoption for windows ever.

It's also worth remembering that Microsoft are currently in the same position in the corporate markets that IBM were 40 years ago, which means that pretty much anything they sell is guaranteed to sell well in corporate markets. Based on their previous performance, I would be surprised if they didn't at least expect Windows 8 to have a larger market share than XP (which is still 29% apparently).

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Good post sir :tu:

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in all fairness all you need to do with newui is spend a few minutes researching how to use it and keyboard shortcuts to access everything. It does not really take anything other than the program list we were used to away all the programs are still available in list form if you just spend a few seconds looking for it

so what if its the lowest uptake? and its took a year? again so what ? how long has Mac and Nix had ?

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More evidence Microsoft are back peddling fast.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04...sktop_updates/

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no it more like they making it work with what system you got if you got touch ect you go to start screen and if your on desktop pc you boot straight to desktop which what happens on update 1 it a good thing they making it work better with whatever system your using surely you agree on that and when the start menu comes back im sure you will only find it on desktop pc and not tablets

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I did not say i disagreed, it just that they should have done it from day one and they might have had a winner instead of ****ing of there customers who pay there wages :LOL:

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yes totally agree would be so much better if done from day one but they are getting there that what matters most even though it taking longer than should have

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I have. I support a lot of Windows users as part of my job, and I get all the Microsoft development stuff (including OSes) for free, so I've had Windows 8 on my home PC since release, because regardless of my own opinion of it, I will have to answer questions on it at work, so it's in my interest to keep up to date with new OS releases.

You really don't understand, do you? Microsoft are not directly competing against OSX or any of the Unixs or Linuxs. What they are competing against is the rise of Android and iOS in the workplace. As tablets get ever more powerful, an increasing amount of companies are replacing PCs with them, which is reducing Microsoft's target market. Combine that with Microsoft's apparent inability to sell tablets (which is odd, as the Windows based tablets I've used have been good), and you have a recipe for problems. It's also worth remembering that in the light of the success of iOS, Apple are also seeing increased sales of the Mac in it's various forms. To both home and commercial users.

Problems not helped when Microsoft introduce a new version of the OS with a new UI. Company staff will require training and any software may require updates. Combine that with the cost of testing and deploying Windows to hundreds of PCs and it stops being so expensive to switch to a new OS. Thus, they are running the risk that a lot of their existing customers will switch.

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But Microsoft are not in trouble plenty of places have avoided windows 8 and chose to install 7 instead a lot of these who have been happy and not spending money on operating system because they were happy with XP. While M$ are still selling OS's then they are not in trouble. I do agree with the mobile side of things though and imo Windows 8 should be perfectly usable in the mobile market but people have stuck with what they know and guess what that does?? yes it bares out my point that people are afraid of change ;)

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Thats what i posted above :LOL:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35685837-post984.html

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I'm not sure it's all down to people not liking change. What I'm finding more is that updates and updated versions doesn't mean it is any better.

At the moment Win7 seems to be very stable and does everything I need, maybe I'm just getting old because I just can't be bothered to go through the rigmarole of the change to Win8. If and when I get a new system I might opt for it then, but I've got no reason to change anything now.

It's the same with my iPad, it's still using 5.1.1 firmware because I'm totally happy with it and for what I need I can say any update seems pointless.

Saying that I do have Win 8 on a laptop, it's not bad, but at the same time I find it annoying at times. Probably because I just don't use the laptop enough to get used to it but it hasn't made me want to update my desktop.

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Microsoft may be in more trouble than you realise.

OK, so they aren't going to go tits up anytime soon, if at all. But, unfortunately, people carrying on using old versions of windows *will* be affecting their bottom line. Microsoft don't make money if they aren't selling upgrades.

Those that are looking to upgrade *are* in a lot of causes looking at alternatives to Windows. Alternatives that often take the form of iPads or any one of a number of Android tablets. Microsoft really should not be looking to help persuade people to move off Windows.

As for people being afraid of change. I don't think they are. Look at how quickly the aforementioned DVD took off. Within a year of launch, it had effectively destroyed VHS as a distribution format for films. But, it offered users a very real advantage over VHS. Given a real advantage, people are happy to change.

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I do not think the take up of DVD was that quick

My first player was 170 quid bought from Techtronics with a chip so it was proper region free. Took a long time to get into the mainstream same as big flat screen tvs took years before it became affordable for most

I do not think MS is to blame at all for the shift in mobile computing I think it is a fashionable thing and unfortunately for MS they have struggled to find their place in this fashion cost I think is a major thing those willing to pay a fortune will buy apple those who want cheap will buy droid MS tried to fit in at the top end which is a mistake imo they should have tried to slip in the middle

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I went from XP to 8.1, and did struggle without the start bar.

But I adapted and overcame, I moved on I adjusted, now i don't even notice it, I just flip between the window screen & tiles as required.

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What do I do with my XP netbook (Samsung NC-10) which doesn't meet the minimum requirements.

Its not used a main machine, so I don't see any really problems, I have avast running and don't plan on accessing any potentially dodgy sites so should be ok.

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Well looking at the specs for your netbook assuming they're the ones on this page http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/c...10-KA01AE-spec Windows 8.1 should work on it http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...m-requirements In the update which is due to be released in the next week it will make Windows 8.1 run better on machines with 1GB RAM

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Yeah thats mine (I did upgrade it to 2GB RAM).

I ran the compatibility program, and it had issues.

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what to expect tomorrow after update

Default Behavior and Settings


Device Type

Before Windows 8.1 Update

Tablet
•Boots to Start Screen
•Closing App takes user back to Start Screen
•Pictures, Music and Video files open with Modern App

After Windows 8.1 Update
•Boots to Start Screen
•Closing App takes user to the previously used App.
•Pictures, Music and Video files open with Modern App

Before Windows 8.1 Update

Non-tablet
•Boots to Start Screen
•Closing App takes user back to Start Screen
•Pictures, Music and Video files open with Modern App

After Windows 8.1 Update
•Boots to Desktop
•Closing App takes user to the previously used App.
•After closing all Apps the user ends in the Desktop
•Pictures, Music and Video files open with Desktop applications

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfepla...ancements.aspx

a good read so people know what to expect after update I all ready got mine ;)

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As far as I know the default option for whether it boots to desktop or not won't change if you've already got Windows 8 installed.

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Will this be available from the store like 8.1 or from the normal Windows Update?