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Those are just fun tales for children to enjoy, they learn how the animal kingdom really works as they grow up. Anyway there is a difference between killing animals for food and killing them for sport as far as I am concerned.

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As i am sure you are aware from my posts on this forum and in this thread i have always had a dislike of those who kill for fun and sport. So much so when i was 17 i was in front of the beak for adjusting the nose of a person in the old cheshire hunt who attacked me with a riding crop. And yes if i was younger and fitter and the idiot hit me with his crop again i would do the same again. At least his nose looked far worse than mine after i adjusted his for him.

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And thats all it is, a fun sport for those that take part. :mad:

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Fox Hunting has never really gone away the legislation was as full of holes as a cheese grater and Tony Blair probably only enacted it to appease his backbenchers and throw them a sop.

As a method of control (the usual reason trotted out) it is quite inefficient and culling by shooting would be much more humane in my view,however that does not involve a chase with hounds baying.

All in all i would toughen up the legislation which will not happen as the Tories will not want to upset their natural supporters,and go for humane culling where needed.:)

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Interesting, I've heard that only 2 members of the hunt actually see the kill, the rest have to stay well behind the hounds, that doesn't sound like a very fulfilling bloodlust to me.

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Fox hunting = small penis syndrome......

that's that one sorted ...................... next..???

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Well presumably they see the aftermath and the fox running for it's life. The sport is in hunting it down. I still think it's wrong regardless of how many people witness the kill.

A lot has been made of the class issue. Maybe some people object to the practise because of those who participate but that isn't the real reason why this is objectionable. We wouldn't tolerate it if people who may be described as 'working class' took to the marshes to hunt foxes with bulldogs. We don't tolerate people abusing their dogs or their cats. I mean what's the difference other than the amount of ceremony involved?

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Interesting as i have seen more than 2 at some of the hunts i was trying to stop. I have to admit i have not been to one lately as i would not be able to keep up but i am sure there will be video evidence on the web if one wants to look. ;)

I will NOT be linking to any here as i have no intention of feeding there exposure for those with a blood lust.

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There class has no bearing on it as far as i am concerned, There all equally small brained neanderthals who must kill for there kicks

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Anyone who finds that they need to get their kicks from seeing an animal ripped to shreds for some sort of gratification has to have something missing in their psyche as it is an aberration and not really normal in this day and age as they are not hunting to survive but for fun.

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You only have to browse this thread to see class is a very real reson why some people object to it and we do tolerate less fluffy creatures dieing horribly without batting an eyelid, most fish that are caught die after being returned and our new rules for battery hens may seem like a positive move forward increasing each birds minimum space by nearly a third but in reality that is still only 750sq cm each.


Then they (as I'm sure you'll already agree) are fools as I believe the reason they should be kept back is for the saftey of the horses and hounds, not to mention riders.

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Re the class issue, there are some equally obnoxious lower class 'sports'...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_coursing

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That as with fox hunting used to be fairly classless and drew bloodlusting **** from far and wide to the official events such as the one near Southport.

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Which is also illegal in the UK (turns out banned in the same bill as Fox Hunting). Without much campaigning to bring it back.

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They aren't campaigning, just carrying on doing it.

Independent

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A giant fox twice the normal size has been caught and killed in Maidstone.
The huge animal, which weighed 26.5lb and was almost four feet long, was trapped and killed humanely by vet Keith Talbot.

4 feet long AND climbing a ladder :Yikes:


http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonli...ox_killed.aspx

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The Fox of the Baskervilles!!!!

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In Maidstone the Foxes hunt you.

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BURLY Seb Baker told yesterday how he was mugged by a FOX — which nabbed garlic bread from his shopping.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-for-food.html

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Its from the Sun it must be true :D

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Now he’s come to the defence of the urban fox and, as for accounts of them attacking humans, he simply doesn’t believe them.

He told Radio Times that fears the animals had ‘gone bad, attacking everything’, were without foundation.

‘Validated assaults on dogs and cats are nonexistent, except under exceptional circumstances,’ he said. ‘And as for attacks on humans – I’ll be necessarily diplomatic – I don’t believe it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

Hardly nonexistent when I've seen it with my own eyes, perhaps that was under exceptional circumstances, those circumstances perhaps being it was exceptionally hungry, same with my pal who had to have his dog put down after a fox bit it, the million plus Google hits on Foxes attacking and eating cats must all be made up to and that City Council in Scotland that actually said cats were on the menu when they switched over to wheelie bins, can't remember where in Scotland or how many thousands had been eaten but they were telling fibs nevertheless and I like the way he has a dig at cats genocidal impunity conveniently forgetting the huge numbers of hedge hogs also on foxys menu.

Suppose this is made up to Packham


A schoolboy had a shock when he returned from the playground to find a FOX asleep in his BED.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-asleep-799002

Whenever experts like this dope pipe up it makes me consider not stopping next time I see a fox in the road.

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I discount most of the stories myself.However foxes are still wild animals that are predators and as urban animals are nearer to being vermin that raid dustbins and really aren't suited to city life.

I certainly don't want them hunted but I do want to see them being 'controlled' and managed just as we do with other wild animals such as badgers and deer.

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MMM a tad over emotive .Cats are doing what comes natural ,as are foxes .The other thing he fails to realise is that urban foxes are essentially the same as stray dogs .We don't allow stray dogs to roam the streets ,so why should we allow foxes to roam the streets ?

He then goes on to say ,

They won't be self regulating if groups such as the rspca and NFWS ,etc keep rescuing sick foxes instead of letting them die naturally

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Of course, that's why we don't have any issues with rats. Animals are self regulating when it comes to population, like the Chinese.

Urban foxes are vermin, they should be trapped and killed.

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Foxes have very few natural predators ,in fact i cannot think of one .In the wild disease and overcrowding regulate fox numbers .In urban areas the same applies with the exception that groups such as NFWS rescue sick/injured foxes negating the natural process .These groups should be banned from rescuing foxes they should be destroyed if found to have diseases like sarcoptic mange instead of cured

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Bobcats, lynxes, panthers, wolves, bears, wolverines, and even large birds of prey.

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In this country :rolleyes: .There is to my knowledge only one natural predator and that is the Golden eagle .You may ocasionally see badgers have a go at a fox but that is not predatory

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cars main predator they killabout 100k per year (best estimate see http://www.thefoxwebsite.org/faq/urbanfoxes.html#q2 )

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Thats better than what i have put below

Much better than being chased relentlessly by people with dogs and horses until the fox drops to the floor exhausted. Then it is ripped to pieces by a pack of dogs while so called humans laugh and scream with ENJOYMENT at its pain.

They are in my eye's nothing more than barbarians. These same so called humans also allow children to watch this barbaric act and the adults if you can call them that then enjoy spreading the blood of the dead animal on the kids faces.

BTW i have seen it when i have been out in the past with the hunt saboteurs.

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Pedantic mode on . Cars are not a predator ,anymore than man is .Predators kill to eat ;)

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What give anyone the right to kill a animal, if any animal can be cured who are we to decide they should die. you would do the same for you pet if it was sick you would have them taken to the vet.

No animal should have to been to control the population.

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Fox hunters kill for some form of gratification i don't want to go in to detail about ;)

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Not even rats?
http://www.orlandorats.com/diseases.htm

I think some control is required for animals and getting overly sentimental won't help.

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Its my view I don't like to see any lively thing put through pain and killed, fox hunting is just for boasting right and people with a small complex. I don't have the right too put anything to death.

Of course if the animal had a in curable disease then the kindest thing to do would be to kill it in a human way like my cat who was going to get any better and was too old for an operation so the kindest thing was to have him put too sleep but if it can be cured then why not.

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doesn't make them a predator ....just sick

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Agreed

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I would love to come face to face with one of these sicko who hunt these animals I would teach them a lesson in pain and see how they like it.

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I suggest you don't go to Youtube and search for 'killer whale' and 'sea lion pup'...

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Why the Killer Whale is a hunter and its a shame but its in the blood to hunt.

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My comment was in response to predators hunting to eat. These appear to hunt for a game of 'flipper footie'.

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I have seen that type of thing ,but killer wales still eat seals so are predators

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Yeah, as one of the comments goes: it's just playing with food. Still pretty gruesome though ;)

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I have and i enjoyed seeing his face when his nose was flattened by my fist ;)

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Did you take a look at the link I provided..:erm:

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Eagle owl will kill a fox to eat it to.

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They don't kill to eat all the time, I remember them going for a humpack calf and eating only the jaw bone between the entire pod, the rest just sank down to the bottom.

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I was talking about Urban Fox's, can't really have hunts in urban areas.

I've no problem with fox hunting with hounds in the countryside.

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oooh you're tough.

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Nothing like some violence eh, you obviously have the moral high ground here.

A fine upstanding citizen I'm sure, there's no way I could mistake you for an idiotic thug with brains where your arse should be, is there?

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See that's what happens when you open your mouth before your brains have kicked in. I was hit with the crop of a huntsman on horseback to the point i was brushed because he hit me so hard. The reason he hit me was because i was in his way so i then hit him back after i pulled him off his horse. We both ended up in front of the beak over it, I was 17 at the time and he was about 30. BTW i would do it again tomorrow if the same situation happened.

I am on about those who carry out Fox hunting and are brainless morons who have a blood lust and don't care who gets in the way of there SPORT.

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If you could actually be bothered to get your arse and do something about a cause you feel strongly enough about instead of being an armchair critic like some then good on ya :tu:

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At least I have brains, it would appear I am somewhat advantaged over your goodself in that dept.

I supposed to feel sorry for you? You want sympathy? Is that paragraph above in someway supposed to defend your actions?

You went to disrupt what was, at the time, a legal leisure pursuit.

You, no doubt, put yourself in the way of the rider and therefore caused the incident, you then pulled him off his horse and then "enjoyed" hitting him.

You make me sick, you're just a thug. What do you do for kicks nowadays go down the canal and assault anglers?

Take out the two words "fox hunting" out of that sentence and you just pretty much described yourself. Oh the Irony.

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Mindless drivel but if that's how you feel fine, I know where i stand and will never change my mind when it comes to those morons who carry out and support fox hunting.

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Could be an interesting show on tonight...

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/urban-fox-attack

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I think any sport which involves the killing of an animal, for some sick pleasure, should be banned

Those taking part after said ban, should be jailed.

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:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :blah: :blah: :blah:

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:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :blah: :blah: :blah:

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If you disagree with the ban so strongly why don't you try and justify fox hunting as a sport of a means of pest control instead of posting that rubbish

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Could be because the thread is years old and now has 967 posts in it. There's nothing to be said that hasn't been already ...

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Why not close it then?

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Because we're not the thought police. We close threads when they get disruptive or abusive, which may happen as a result of them starting to go round in circles, but not necessarily.

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At some future point somebody will only start a new thread about the same issue..Which will go in the same direction.;)

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It's not a sport, nor is it pest control, it's a country pursuit.

And in this thread many, many, many, times.

I have stated my case that this was not a ban to save the poor fox, it was just an affront by the so called working class Labour party (which they are far from being) against the assumed rich country toffs.

And if fox hunting is banned, there are many other bloodsports and forms of hunting that should be banned also, but aren't. It's not equitable.

And then you get all the city idiots, that know sod all about the countryside spouting their drivel, as the post I derided.

I don't fox hunt, I never have, but if people want to saddle up and go for a ride with their dogs and kill a wild animal whilst they're out. Fine by me.

I'm not a hypocrite,

I'm not a vegan,

I eat meat no doubt much of which is factory farmed in which many animals lead sad and depressing existences, but neither do I campaign against that.

I eat fish line caught, trawled and farmed - First two of which are not a nice way for fish to end its life and the last not a nice way for fish to live, But neither do I campaign against that.

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All I want is for animals to be treated as animals ,not as qasi humans.I want them treated humanely and with respect.I however don't want to see people's livelihoods and interests interfered with either provided they treat the animals they deal with humanely.

Fishing is NOT a sport it is hunting for food.Fox hunting is not hunting for food it is a sport just as is badger baiting,dog fighting and cock fighting and all of the latter are illegal for good clear reasons.

However from time to time it may well be that us humans have to take responsibility for the welfare of the animals in our environment and that may mean killing them.As long as it is done with thoughtfulness and kindness and humanely I shouldn't think anyone can object.

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What Maggy said :)

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Here here

The human race will be the vermin of the nea furture (over populated = no habitate = no food = more wars).

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It’s a pity more people don’t see it that way.

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You can keep your country pursuits, just take out the bit in bold.

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My main feeling on this is that foxes kill a lot of animals in the countryside, therefore it should be down to farmers to deal with them in the proper manner.

Farmers know there area, and if it has fox hunts then so be it, we should keep our noses out of business that doesn't concern us.

What people should be concentrating there energies on is the cruelty to animals such as dogs, cats and animals that are in the food chain that are treated with disgracefuul manner ie the pigs in the papers etc.

Foxes are vermin, its that simple and should be destroyed.

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One that has been banned because the after many years of campaigning because of the needless cruelty involved

That's just your opinion ,but whatever the reason for the ban it is a good thing.


Yes it is .All hunting with dogs is banned ,including mink ,hares, deer and anything else you can think of .

I think you'll find a lot of the "city idiots" are much more informed than you give them credit for .

That's just an ignorant statement to make .Everything you just mentioned is food ,when was the last time you had a bit of fried fox :rolleyes:.Hunting is meant to be a means of getting food as in fishing or deer stalking .Hunting is not leaving the prey in a field to rot after dogs have ripped it apart ,that is just mans abuse of animals

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How cruel is being riddled with buckshot and taking days to die, how cruel is being hung up on a snare and having to chew your own paw of before bleeding to death, how cruel is poison, hunting seems pretty humane compared to them once you see past the bs spouted by these animal rights nuts, chased for 15 mins and then one dog bites your neck which is entirely what it boils down to on average.

and that's just your opinion, the legislation is flawed, the fox is still chased, hounds are still used, the only difference now is that instead of being more likely to escape the fox is shot.

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Snaring a rabbit should be quite quick if done correctly and usually the hunter is in the near vicinity to deal with rabbit quickly ,i.e break it's neck

Being riddled with buckshot and taking days to die should not happen only careless hunters do that .I wouldn't use buckshot for a fox anyway totally inappropriate ,rifle everytime .Shotguns are for pheasants,rabbits and ducks which are collected quickly by a good dog and if not already dead made dead quickly by the huntsman .
I agree the legislation is flawed ,but that is no reason to repeal it,every reason to look closely at it and improve it

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If you Google fox caught in snare you get 914 000 hits with a load of videos included to boot, a foxes neck isn't broken and I'd say the majority of foxes shot are done so carelessly by peeved farmers rather than hunters.

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I'm not disagreeing ,foxes caught in snares may be accidental or it may be deliberate .It is not the best way to catch a fox for whatever reason .If you want to kill a fox then shoot it or catch it in a cage .Farmers tend to see foxes as "the enemy" mainly because they attack hens left unsecure in chicken runs and most farmers don't see why they should have to build a better one ,i mean the cheek of mother nature making chickens so tasty for foxes ;)

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Some times even the best are unsecure for reasons beyond the owner, a friend of mine keeps loads of chickens in this sort of pyramid structure complete with electric fence and security guard, he came home one night to find the guard asleep and his fence unplugged so the guard could charge his phone, luckily none were missing but he wasn't amused, even less by how funny his wife and I thought it was.

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LOL ,the human componant strikes again :D

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People don't realise what **** fox hunters are, when my mum was a little girl the **** ended up chasing a fox through their garden trashing it and the dogs killed there dog.

They didn't give a flying fig as they it was there god given right, her brother was in the army had he been at home he would have proberly shot the dogs.

These dog did to their dog what they do to a fox tear it to pieces.

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Your friend employs a security guard to protect his chickens from foxes?

Also I'd love to see a picture of this pyramid structure.

Is you friend a farmer or is this some kind of chicken temple?

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That's the problem a lot of people don't realise ,the collateral damage to other animals and property ,including the horses

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He's a business man with a lot of units on his land, the guard's there to protect all of it including the pyramid shaped chicken house.

You'll have to use your imagination re the pic, it's about the same size and obviously shape but it's solid wood rather than gappy with wire.

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Totally agree with you, I would like to see a so called hunter been chased by a rabid dog and torn apart, then justify killing for sport.

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As I pointed out, that is not the reason why it was banned

and that's just your opinion, touché

hunting with dogs is banned, but there are ithe forms of hunting and blood sports that aren't . hunting with hawks isn't banned for example?

I am yet to be convinced.

Ignorant? Re-read what you have posted and turn on your irony detector.

So according to you it's ok to treat animals inhumanely if they are food?

Also just to point out that very rarely in fishing (angling) are the fish caught for food, after the trauma of being caught they are kept in a net with 10's of other fish, many of which die.

Also "mans abuse of animals". This is exlusive to fox hunting?

Animals are abused on a vastly more extensive scale on being farmed for our food than any fox might be, at least the fox has a chance to escape, what chance does a factory farmed pig have?

You are so laughable it beggars belief.

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a painful lingering death where the rabbit usually nearly always damages it's leg so much by trying to get free it either dies exhausted or painfully over a matter of hours.


Yes...... Much better option that instant death

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Non of that post is valid as any kind of argument because you are making the same mistake as your "city idiots". You are confusing sport hunting with raising animals to be killed for food ,or catching wild animals for food .There is a massive difference and they are not comparable ,but then a "city idiot"(your words not mine) wouldn't understand that.:rolleyes:

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:clap:

Fox hunting is a sport which is attended by all walks of life not just by those in the countryside. The idea its about controlling the fox population is a thinly veiled excuse by barbarians who have a blood lust and find the act of killing gives them gratification.

If any one has watched the spectacle of the hunt they would see it for the sport it is. A spectacle where so called humans enjoy, scream and shout in obvious enjoyment as a defenseless animal is torn to threads by a pack of dogs for there gratification.

They are sick, twisted and not deserving of the status of being called intelligent.

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So if the hunters ate the fox (or whats left of it) afterwards, would fox hunting then be ok?

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I can't think of a more expensive way to catch one's food especially as when hunting for food the aim is to get as much of the animal as one can.With the traditional fox hunt by the time you have your fox it is ripped to pieces.So no it wouldn't.

An animal is far better fare when it has not been exposed to a stressful death.

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To some maybe ,but no one would use a pack of dogs to hunt down a fox if they where going to eat it :rolleyes:

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Go on then, runaway from the argument, discount your double standards. The fact you dismiss it out of hand weakens your viewpoint and quite frankly makes you look stupid.

What a strange world you live in.

It's wrong to chase down a wild fox for say a few hours, inhumanely (some would argue not) killing it with dogs for sport. If indeed you catch it.

But it's perfectly acceptable to keep domestic farm animals, in inhumane, miserable, depressing factory conditions for any length of time from which there is no escape, because eventually you're going to eat them, perhaps.

I'm not confusing the issue, because unlike yourself I haven't got conflicting principles.

Surely if you campaign for the rights of one animal to be treated humanely, then surely you should campaign for the rights of all animals to be treated humanely.......regardless of the situation be that hunting or farming. Or in your eyes should one animal have more rights than another?

You side stepped the angling point but I wont bother pursuing you on that.

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Does it taste different?

Make sure your not eating any halal meat then as well.

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I haven't run away from any argument at all ,you just don't have any arguments yourself apart from the usual tripe trotted out by people who pretend to know what they are talking about and so descend into insulting other peoples views ,as you always do , and for your information i have never defended any form of factory farming .Keeping a herd of cattle in a field is not factory farming and i don't buy factory farmed chickens or eggs .
What you need to do is stop being so insulting to posters who don't share the same views as you ,it shows a distinct lack of inteligence is very juvenile

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Pot kettle black.

If you can't see the doubles standards and irony in your posts, we'll just have to leave it at that then.

tatty bye.

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Apparently it does taste different and the average chase is 15 mins apparently.

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Supposedly and I will take care about the halal meat. ;)

You do seem a wee bit emotional about this issue if I may say so.:erm:

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I was born and raised in the country and indeed used to shoot foxes that were in the animal pens etc on the farm but I just wouldn't think of going out and 'hunting' foxes for 'fun' or any other animal for that matter. I don't see the need for it.

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Not really, I just have 2no. Issues on it

1. On the reason the ban was brought in. I.e to stick two fingers up at the country toffs and sod all to do with the fox

2. People that have inconsistent values/ principles when it comes to the welfare of the fox over other animals

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Well i have been against blood sports since i was 14 and i don't see that changing any time soon and my feelings have been consistent

Those who take pleasure from a sport that allows animals to be ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs should not be classed as civilised.

Its funny how those who support the ripping apart of a fox for pleasure always try to turn the argument to fishing. I have never seen a fisherman use a pack of fish to rip apart another fish for the pleasure of themselves and others.

And just so people know i feel ALL bloodsports are wrong and should be banned

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Ah back to the emotive language again despite the common consensus being it's one dog that does the killing, if that's still the level of debate we are at no wonder they wasted so much time in parliament. Oh yes and fyi once a fish bleeds from anything than the smallest of cuts it's going to die.

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Whats up with foxes fighting? They've decided to kick off at stupid oclock making loud weird noises. at least a good 10mins constant. now theyve shut up but they kicked off for a minute or two again. is this normal? turf wars or mating? or is it just a domestic lol

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Mating. They are the equivalent of the headboard banging neighbours from hell.;)

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January is mating season very early February at the latest, its probably a vixen making sure very young cubs don't get lost

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it looked like a fight with 1 fox walking a bit funny still hyped up but i didnt see another fox, it was dark but you could hear them clear enough. i would of gone out but i threw away my watergun years ago.

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Bonkers Brian's been at it again, apparently the poor little foxes are the victims of a smear campaign, what like the family of the little girl that was bitten whose parents you accused of lying.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...Brian-May.html

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I believe that if people in red jackets want to hunt then they should be forced to hunt each other and if caught let the hounds sort them as per the fox.

Bloodsports should remain banned and if needed foxes should be controlled by an exterminator not a load of idiots on horses charging over fields.

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:clap:

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:clap::clap:
Well said.

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But they have to do it as they feel important they have limited enjoyment in there important life's they have to fill the void, I agree 100% Pete