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Maybe, if so let the truth out.

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I agree.

If your child had been abducted you would keep your remaining children around you at all times as that's all you have left - would you leave the country to visit the pope etc and leave your kids behind?

I suspect you'd be utterly paranoid about anything happening to your kids and refuse to leave them under any circumstances.

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but that doesn't rule out the posibility she might be a some point soon?

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It doesn't, but if it's fair to post media speculation that she may have been charged this afternoon - as Slug did this lunchtime - then it is also fair to post reports that she hasn't been.

Incidentally, the fact that you haven't been charged with anything today doesn't rule out the possibility that you might be at some point soon. ;)

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And just to bring every up to date Gerry McCann is now being questioned.

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While i too have thought that at times their behaviour is odd i am judging that on how i think i would be in their situation. What is harder to account for is the massively incorrect information they gave at the start of this this the whole "40 yards" when it was a lot further and the "we had a clear line of sight to the apartment" which as we now know was not possible. That was the start of all the speculation about them being involved and while i still am not convinced they did have any part in the girls disappearence i am agog at how they could have been so wrong about basic things.

As for the press whatever intentions the mccanns had when they initiated contact with the press i am always reminded of the story of the frog and the scorpion where the press is concerned and this is yet another example of that. I am a little puzzled that the vatican site has now removed all reference to the mccanns and would like to know why that has been done and on whose order such things will only fuel the speculation.

This could all be a simple case of the police questioning them to eliminate them from enquiries but as it is portugal maybe there were questions that could only be asked after having her made a suspect doesn't mean she is in any real way and until we get something more then uncle bob says this but sky says this we won't know.

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I think we can speculate & play sherlock, until the cows home home.

But at the end of it. Maddie is still 'whereabouts unknown'.

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Confused by the reaction of the McCann camp and their supporters.

They say the police are now going down the wrong line/direction in the enquiry and this is diverting resources from the real need to find Madeline.

However ‘surley’ if a car is found to have blood/DNA belonging to Madeleine 25 days after she went missing……….. isn't that a good direction to go in. What would have happened if the police released that information but then said we are not going to follow that line of enquiry.............everyone would be going mad saying the police were inefficient !

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has this car information been officially confirmed?

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BBC news articles are saying the police "believe" the blood to be hers.

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Channel 4 news :

Mum of Katie McCann suggested police planted the evidence in car..

Channel 4 reported stated British Forensics referred to 'tones of evidence' pointing at Katie McCann !!!

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that's a bold thing for channel 4 news to say.

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They have offered her a deal :(

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html

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"Police are said to believe that Madeleine was killed accidentally and that her body was hidden, then moved and hidden again.

They are not treating Madeleine's disappearance as murder.

There have been reports that Mrs McCann, 39, is likely to be charged with causing the accidental death of her daughter.."

Just remember though 'police' in their country work to different levels of competence to the ones in our country. I wouldn't trust that shower of idiots.

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I for one, think that the Portugal police should get off there backside. and start looking properly for Maddie, instead of accusing the McCann's for the disappearance, if people can turn back several months when this first happened, there was an item surrounding a couple in the same situation where a girl went missing, the mother is now in prison for life for her murder, there is NO body and she strongly denies it so does her husband, and the police stopped looking after TWO weeks, and yet she is still in prison, doesn't this ring a bell with Maddie situation, l would suggest a BRITISH lawyer, with Portugese accent go over and represent the McCann.s as she is still a BRITISH subject, and deserves to be treated properly, as they cannot find anymore evidence, what about the person who was SEEN carrying a child from the apartment, what about that, in my heart, l don't believe they had anything to do with the disappearance, so here is a message to those officals, go look for the REAL suspects.

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And what IF they are guilty? Would you still believe they are innocent? What good is your belief if you have no hard evidence / proof to back it up. Does that mean every person that is of a similiar background is automatically innocent just because you have an instinct? Why is that?

It's good to get other opinions thats for sure, but no one can say anything either way till the facts come out one way or another.

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Until there's evidence to the contrary, I don't think that's particularly fair.

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Possibly. I'm reserving judgment on the performance of the Portuguese Police at the moment.

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I wish to answer several questions that have been made to my comments, there is NO proof that there is a murder, all we know is that Maddie is missing, remember there is an organisation that relates to Courts involving mistrials in all parts of the world, in injustices, so far the Portugese have acted in a manner that is like a film of Inspector Clousoe, or whatever his name is, when a child goes missing in a foriegn country, they don't give a damn, and we have seen this in various countries, ie for child slavery, for the sickies of this world, and what annoys me, is that we have a case where all the police are going on, is a rented car that was hired 25 days later, with blood samples found in the car, if the McCanns had hired that car, it would have been a ,million to one, that would have been the car that they had, and if they had done a nasty crime, why did they stay in the country, when they could have fled home, until there is a body found, then l will still believe she is alive, and the strangest thing is, that who ever does have the poor child, maybe she could be found, so that the portugese police will have eggs on there faces for the farce that is being produced at the moment.

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As someone said to me tonight this has all kicked off since the mccanns talked about returning to the UK so maybe this has speeded up the portugese police rather then them having nothing whatsoever to go on. Same old same old we know nothing till someone that does know for sure tells us but this is not looking good right now.

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You see, if I was in court, I'd like a jury made up of people who didn't hear a couple of 'facts' and make up their minds that's I'm guilty anyway without knowing the rest of the evidence.

Call me strange if you like, but I kind of figured that how the trial by twelve men good and true system worked.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6983604.stm

Both the parents of missing Madeleine McCann are now formal suspects in her disappearance.

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I don't want to get into a debate about the jury system, I have sat on one and I wasn't impressed.

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We don't know that that is all the evidence they have against Kate McCann. The Portuguese police don't disclose their findings to the general public, so there could be more evidence that we don't know about.

Having said that, the blood samples found in the car that was rented 25 days after Madeleine's disappearance does appear to be a bit strange. Are the police suggesting that Kate McCann killed Madeleine, hid her body for 25 days, then used a hired car to dispose of it elsewhere?

Sounds a bit bizarre.

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Under Portuguese law you can request to be made a formal suspect, chances are it needed to be done so they could offer her the deal and I believe they have to name you if they want to ask you direct questions about guilt. It doesn't really mean much to me, if they had charged her obviously it would be different

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:eeek:


Why stop there? Force the Portuguese to speak proper English, they are dealing with a BRITISH subject after all.:rolleyes:

We all saw our very own Ian Blair: his fluency in the Portuguese language was remarkable, explaining the bullets in the head of innocent Jean Charles de Menezes, a BRAZILIAN subject (Portuguese mother tongue) :rolleyes:

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I see no problem with the McCanns are getting whatever legal and other assistance is normally afforded to British citizens overseas including ensuring they are being properly represented legally and that translators are being made available when required. The UK has a very good record of providing translators to those living/visiting here who don't speak English. Ian Bliar's linguistic ability is irrelevant.

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I'm not really surprised if you applied the same blasé attitude to listing to both prosecution and defence arguments.

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I've got a feeling there's going to be a lot of "I told you so"s on here soon....

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Both parents now 'formal suspects' in the death of their daughter yet they still have custody of their remaining children.

I would suspect a return to the UK anytime soon might just push our own Social Services into some sort of action.

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You do understand what the portugese mean by "formal suspect" don't you because it's not the same as what we mean with suspects in the UK

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You think people would use a young girls death in such a cheap way, how lame would that be?

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I don't think it's like that to be honest. But from what I've read on here, there are people that say the parent's DON'T have anything to do with the disappearance, and there's some that say that they DO have something to do with it.

I have a problem with both of those views, no one can say anything till the evidence and proof is shown, speculation is just that - pointless (but good converstation / discussion).

From the way things are going, there must be a high number of people wanting the parents to be charged and found guilty, not out of anything nasty, maybe just a dislike to them perhaps, maybe to teach people a lesson that you can't jump to these conclusions (in theory a told you so I suppose). And I must add yes there is still a missing girl, I can't dwell on that too much as what good will that do, but it doesn't mean I'm not saddened by it all.

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Yes, I do. Going on experience, certain people on here will use any method to score a cheap pop against others and I have little doubt it will happen again, cleverly disguised by a "Concerned, from Tunbridge Wells" approach.

Again there are some who have already made up their minds about what's happened. If it turns out they were right I'm sure they'll waste little time in telling everyone else.

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Not from me. I am simply expressing an opinion that I think the parents are involved in all this. For some reason that rattles some people.

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When I sat on a jury I behaved like a juror. When posting here I dont have to.

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[irony]You should be ashamed of yourself for having the ability to have an opinion beyond that which the media and celebrities have foisted upon you![/irony]

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you're not allowed to on the basis that they've gone through so much already.

I think the parents should have been charged a long time ago for neglect.

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Because (presuming they are innocent of involvement in her death) that would really mean something, it won't help Maddie, it wouldn't punish the parents anymore than they are punishing themselves and it wouldn't act as a deterrent to anyone 'thinking' of doing the same thing, it wouldn't be I am not going to leave my kid because I might be charged with neglect like them, it would be I am not going to leave my child beacuse it might get abducted like Maddie

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well as ive said before if I left my daughter unattended and went out and got bladdered and while I was out the house burnt down or she had an accident and died im sure I would not be met with as much understanding as this pair have from some.

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Couldn't agree more!

Again, I couldn't agree more!!

I am keeping an open mind with regards to the involvement, because we only know what the media have told us.

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If you had made a tragic genuine error of judgement would it matter how understanding people were? Would anything anyone said make a blind bit of difference?

Besides I suspect we are about to go down the same old paths with this thread ;)

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Yeah couldn't agree more, we have covered this ground before, best not to revisit it.

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That's the trouble with this forum in general. Too touchy, too personal, too middle class bordering on 'safe' only, too I'm better than you, because I word it better, etc etc etc the list goes on.

Can't people just accept that people have things to say, even though things cover past subjects, remember that the context changes constantly, so instead of those scoring points trying to be clever and wanting to look clever or whatever the case may be with the forum.

:rant over:

:tu:

Apologies for being off topic.

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going out on the lash or for a meal with friends is not imo a tragic error of judgement its an act of pure selfishness and negligence. But all im doing is rehighlighting my constant view on this subject so I dare not post any more or no doubt ill get told off again

least you cant fault my consistance

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On the subject of contexts changing - has anyone else picked up on the broadcast media now frequently referring to the mother as "Mrs McCann" as opposed to the infinitely more endearing "Kate McCann"?

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I agree, but the thread has been threatened with closure a number of times.

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And also how the pictures being used of her are now much less flattering.

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Mrs McCann was joined by top Lisbon lawyer Carlos Pinto de Abreu who arrived in Praia da Luz yesterday morning.

The couple is looking into whether the fighting fund to help find Madeleine will be able to pay for his legal advice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nmaddy306.xml

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The reports of the Kate McCann being offered 'A deal' would appear to be wide of the mark, as has been reported by the portugese and also UK media each criminal offence has a set sentence that not even a Portugese judge can change.

So, thus far The McCann's are alledging that the Portugese police have planted evidence. The Portugese involvment in the forensic side of the investigation (especially in the recovery process) has been very little. With the vast amount of the recovery and analytical work has been performed under the guidance of British forensic teams and analaysis performed by the FSS in Birmingham (facts which are now well documented)

The one question I have is this.

If the hire care was infact hired twenty five days after the dissaperance of the child then where did the Portugese police get the blood from to 'plant' in the car ?

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I think you can cut the McCanns a little slack with the pressure they're under. They aren't under any obligation to prove their innocence or to prove what did happen. The fact that their suggestion about the way the blood got into the car is a little far fetched is not, and should not be taken as, an indication of their own guilt.

At the moment, however, the one question I have (and one which the Police will have to prove at some point, if they persist in this line of enquiry) is this:

How did the McCanns smuggle the decomposing body of their daughter past the police, the world media and a horde of rubbernecking tourists, to get it into that car and off somewhere out of the glare of publicity long enough to arrange disposal?

If the Police's suggestion is based on this one piece of evidence, then they are right out on a limb here and, I submit, are not paying due regard to the contents of a certain Mr Occam's shaving cabinet.

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Would a suitcase of looked so out of place?

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McCanns To Fly Home Today.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283278,00.html

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not only that but before reporting it to the police they could have smuggled out a body to another accomplce's apartment, which was never searched.

Weren't there reports of a man carrying a small child at the early stages of the investigation?

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Have either of you been to many other forums and read about this case? If not, you should, and you'll see that here it's actually a very tame thread with just tame questions to ask that people are confused about!

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:tu:

Spot on!

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Your spot on Pia i have seen a couple of other forums where emotions seem to be running massively higher then in this thread and if the mod's on here saw them they would definately not be thinking of closing this thread. One question that the police are SUPPOSED to have asked did seem very good to me and that was why they hired a car a day before they were jetting off to see the pope does seem strange they managed all that time without one and then a day before going away they hire one.

I think to be honest while we can debate the mc'canns innocence or guilt they have done some things that are a bit weird and off during this whole thing that is now coming back to haunt them. Their early statements on the events of the night in question have certainly fuelled the group that feel they are involved in someway and those early statements never sat right with me either. I am curious as to how this went from an abduction case to an accidental death case as the portugese police seem to be so certain it is.

Putting a new idea in maybe they had nothing directly to do with her death by virtue of not being in the apartment when she had an accident and therefore feel they are not guilty of her death. This whole matter is so confused and contradictory that it fuels whatever viewpoint you want to take and that is what is making this a point of interest for so many people.

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Yeah - but to be fair, I don't mod other forums so I'm not too bothered if they get out of hand and turn in to schoolground squabbles.

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Considering the line of questioning taken against Kate McCann, I'm suprised the Portuguese police allowed them to return home.

They have just taken off. Estimated to arrive at East Midlands airport at 12:16.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283316,00.html

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As i understand the system and i may be wrong now the portugese have made them ofiicial suspects extradition would be more of a formailty if they needed to get them back therefore letting them leave poses no problems. It is hard for us in the UK to understand their system but i am sure they have their reasons for doing what they are doing and just because we don't understand it doesn't mean it is mickey mouse or inferior to ours or works any less well.

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Bah, I dunno about you lot but I'm bored of this whole affair now. Maybe I've become desensitized to what has happened/is happening because of the saturation coverage.

Now that Team McCann are heading back to Blighty I'm sure their story will be sold to the highest bidding tabloid, and OK magazine will buy the rights to photograph the inside of the girl's bedroom in their UK home for a six-figure amount.

I think I'll just wait for the inevitable made-for-TV film to be broadcast so that I can find out what is supposed to have happened.

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Well, they are working hard on it. This morning, Gerry was exclusive to NoTW, and Kate was exclusive to People.

Is the landing at 12:30 going to be shown live? Is it true that Sir Stelios we be there to open the airplane door? :rolleyes:

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A statement from the McCann's has just been read out by their family spokesperson. They said "They played no part in the disappearance of their beloved daughter".

Whether it was an accidental death by Kate McCann, or an abduction by a stranger, I'm sure many people would disagree with that statement!

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Gerry's just repeated that bile on landing, before being whisked away like royalty with police escort. No sign of Social Services or any handcuffs, when at the very least they are guilty of child neglect, for all anyone knows Kate could have Munchausen's syndrome or something.

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Yes tbh that statement is a load of bs. Although i think it was indirect they DID play a part in the abduction by not being there to stop it happening and i think as i have said before they have official questions to answer in this country but then it is sunday so maybe tomorrow. Anyway we better be quiet and not discuss neglect as that has been done to death and the thread may be closed if that discussion opens up again. Hearing of the exclusive deals with papers to be honest sickens me no matter what amount of money they get or what it is used for they shouldn't get a penny.

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Would you trust Gerry as your cardiologist?

and what's Kate's specialization? she said, she had come into contact with 4-5 corpses before going to Portugal, that's why the dog detected the scent of a dead person on her...

Would you trust Kate as your doctor?

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Well to be honest i doubt many of her patients will be going to her for advice on childcare and thats not a dig simple fact. Not sure why i wouldn't want to have either of them treat me for illnesses they are qualified doctors far as i have heard nothing has called their professional conduct into question when they are practicing medicine. Apart from the above mentioned this shouldn't impact their careers but i am sure in someway it will.

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The Portuguese police alleges that the Kate sedated the 3 kids but Maddie died from an overdose, while the McCanns were indulging themselves with 13 (!) bottles of wine... I would call that practising medicine, if it true...

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That's an interesting theory. If true, they would look bad if they called emergency services and if they were found guilty of sedating the kids so they can go out to enjoy themselves, the backlash from that would be huge, no error of judgement or anything then.

And certainly something that 'could' be probable.

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Surely that should be the Portuguese press making allegations? When the police allege something as serious as that, they don't normally let you leave the cell let alone the country

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It is an interesting theory and your right the backlash would deservedly put her up with some of the most notorious criminals the country has seen.

Btw don't you think possible is better than probable, scenario wise?

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There should be NO ONE cut any slack until the child is either found alive and well or a cadaver recovered. That is the most important part no one is trying to vilify anyone.

By the way of the McCanns statements saying they that she (Kate) is subject to Portugese police trying to frame her she is also implying that the British forces (specifically Leicestershire) are also actively involved in any attempt to frame, the evidence is first of all passed to FSS for examination and then passed to the liasing force for consideration and only then passed to the Portugese police.

Your question of how the body would be moved holds much providence. But if the blood in the hire car is the childs then it renders your question pretty much mute.

BBC24 raised an interesting question this morning which was that if that hire car was so important to the investigation why were the McCanns still allowed to use it

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Well according to the telegraph they reckon they didn't sedate them and they got angry when asked that. Wow that's proved that theory wrong then. :dozey:

Could they have touched a nerve?

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I have been doing some digging. Gerry finished Glasgow Uni but he was very slow to get his specialization. In fact he became consultant cardiologist only two years ago

And she does not have a specialization, she only graduated from Brum Uni four years ago. She graduated as a 34 years old! a very slow learner. Without specialization what was she doing around dead bodies.:confused:

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Are you American?

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Not the grammer / spell checking police again. :rolleyes:

Wow that was really helpful.

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Slow learner or late entry into the medical field either way she is qualified. As for the rumours that they sedated the children i am sure we would have heard something positive on that surely even 25 days later there would have been some trace of sedative in the blood sample. While people will feel free to have a go at them as parents\people having a go at them professionally is a bit much at the minute.

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Nope I ain't an Eskimo.

Specialisation and Specialization are both in the British dictionary that comes with Firefox. I randomly clicked on one, while spell checking;)

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Camp McCann seem to have so much to say....they get there info from where......?.....wishful thinking , or from 'Tom & Jerry' (meaning Kate & Gerry), although the comedy aspect will remain. So T & J cannot speak openly to the press...but can tell all the family about it to let them talk........and........still makes it's way to the press.......maybe 3rd hand.......but lets face it..if T & J DID the dirty......then all supporting cast are...........well...................bull****ers.. ............or...............happy to get paid. Are still putting their 2p in. For the extended family to know all the questions that are supposedly have been put to T & J, there would nearly have to have been an open conversation between the finish of interviews with the police of T & J and camp 'Cann or during.......them being there as .a supporter..?.......I would think under the same disclosure law. ? Egg possibly could appear on very many places.as we all know the Porto police do not 'talk' so the only place 'T & J' s supposedly questions and answers have been supplied by camp McCann........by .................................?

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That would be moot. ;)

And in fact it wouldn't be moot; if the child's blood is in the car, it proves the child was in the car, or that someone who had been in contact with the child's blood had been in the car. It certainly doesn't prove the allegation that the child's parents hired the car in order to move a body.

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It's more helpful than you realise.

There are so many armchair Poirots on this thread, it's reasonable to wonder whether some of them really do have the wit and intelligence to crack a case that has so far stumped the (presumably) finest investigative minds in Portugal, and one or two from the UK as well.

Personally, I tend to give less weight to 'clever' theories espoused by people who can't string a properly constructed sentence together. Call me old fashioned, but as a means of separating out who is really thinking about this, and who is merely pandering to ugly prejudice and confusing real life with soap opera and pulp fiction, I find it works pretty well.

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You need to get out more.

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thought it read better than some others

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While people may not always use the best punctuation or grammar they might have something valid to say or a good point to raise. Bad or incorrect grammar are hardly reasons to dimiss someone or thier theory to be honest Chris and that attitude smells of snobbery to be honest.

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Or to pull the thread off topic.

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I agree, and I think the term is anal retentive springs to mind.

I think a mod of a forum should encourage people to post rather than slate them.

Grammer and spelling rarely bares any resemblance to actual intelligence.

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They might. I don't see much evidence of it in this thread to be honest though.

On the contrary, in the absence of any other evidence for how much thought someone has put into a post, the amount of thought they have put into their expression is all we have to go on.

I'm not giving marks out of ten for exact spelling and grammar, but some of the stuff posted on here is unintelligible drivel of the highest order. If someone is so totally incapable of expressing themselves with any clarity, then what right have they to expect anyone to assume they have thought through what they want to say with any clarity?

Fine, if that works for you. Forgive me if I think you're being trite and failing to engage with the point.

I can only repeat what I said earlier. There are a lot of ideas and opinions flying round this thread. Some people are reviewing the evidence and attempting to come to a reasonable view of events based on that evidence (not everyone is coming to the same view, incidentally, which is fine by me - it makes for a more interesting discussion). Other people are simply talking out of their rear ends based on prejudice and an assumption that the likes of Eastenders and Brookside are in some way a reflection of real life.

In my experience, lazy thinking and lazy expression are often found side by side. This is a fast moving thread and there is lots to read so I make no apology for skimming through it and only engaging with the posts that seem to me to be worth engaging with.

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It's grammar. And I think you'll find it does.

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Seeing as he was speaking as a member rather than mod, surely it's up to him to use any method he see's fit to judge a posts value, as we all do

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Of course. That's what the team here loves to do most of all. :rolleyes:

I thought you might be at least curious to know why I don't think everyone's ideas about what happened to Maddie McCann are equally valid. Sorry if that was too subtle for you.

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I think that the McCann's are involved in the dissapperance of Madeleine.
Spelling and grammar correct. I must be right then.

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But the car wasn't hired until 25 days after she was reported missing, and according to the Telegraph report posted earlier, the blood was found in the boot of the car.

I assume the police checked to see who hired the car before the McCann's (if anyone) to see who might have had it over the period Madeleine went missing.

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Apologies, for spelling specialization with a "z"...Let's move on....

ON TOPIC

Few things:

*there is an article in the wikipedia about Kate McCann but it's in queue for deletion. Can anyone explain to me why?

*Her second name on the Wiki, is not the same as in the Medical register.

*Wiki claim she finish Dundee Uni but the Medical register say Brum

*wiki claims she is a GP at Leicester. So did she have 6 dead patients, the week before going on hols?:confused:

Link

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thank you t, w

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Maybe someone has been done some hack job on wiki i think i am inclined to believe the medical register on where she qualified.

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As I said, subtlety obviously isn't your strong suit.

Your spelling and grammar doesn't mean you're right.* It is just a useful indication that you were thinking about what you were writing. In my experience of internet forums, if the poster has thought about their contribution it is more likely to be interesting and worth engaging with.

Simple as that, really.


*Your spelling and grammar isn't right, anyway. To pluralize McCann, you add an 's' without an apostrophe. Apostrophe-s is used to make something possessive, not plural. Disappearance is spelled like so.

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I do not agree that good spelling and grammar indicates thought and on top I also disagee that good spelling and grammar would make a post more likely to be interesting. I do not think spelling and grammar is the be all and end all on a forum my spelling and grammar is appauling but ive contributed a lot to this forum

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Yes I know my spelliong and grammar was incorrect.
Second chance to make my piont.
Spelling and grammar incorrect. I must be wrong.

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A second chance to miss mine, more like. Although the longer we go on, the more effectively you make it for me. ;)

QED.

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Not mising you piont just dont think its valid.
Some people who post first langauge will not be english and some people might have learning dificultys relating to the writen word.
Never judge a book by its cover.

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Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,:rolleyes:

How could she have 6 dead bodies in her practice in the week before her holidays? Is that a record?

Is Harold Shipman's the record holder:rolleyes:?

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I actually have not seen the explanation for the blood in the car given by Kate McCann so would if anyone knows what it is be grateful (Actually have been enjoying the weekend :D )

FSS will be not have just analysed the blood but also the way it was transferred. wet - dry transfer will leave a different pattern on transfer opposed to dry or 'sticky transfer' and also attach to fibres in a different manner.

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Or some people like me just cant' (sic) punctuate to save their lives :D