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wwe 11-10-2011 02:51

Re: WWE
 
Sure was. But the worse Gm ever

Jameseh 11-10-2011 03:12

Re: WWE
 
Decended into tripe already. Punk commentary is legendary but we couldn't even get two minutes of it.

wwe 11-10-2011 03:21

Re: WWE
 
Cmpunk well gd. Cart belive that fireing gd old JR. I been wanting him bk for ages then triple h brings him back and now he fired. John sucks!

Russ 11-10-2011 18:13

Re: WWE
 
In fairness he's "only" a GM which means there are higher powers above him. Had be been replaced by Johnny Ace then yes that would have been "same old".

I'm liking what I'm seeing in Mason Ryan. He's still pretty green but the potential is there, he has an awesome look and he's well over already. Plus I'm enjoying Wales finally getting a mention on Raw :D

Jameseh 11-10-2011 22:04

Re: WWE
 
He did seem to make quite a mess of whatever he was trying to do last night though. I can probably see him being on the face team at Survivor Series vs. Ziggler's team should that be what the match is.

Russ 11-10-2011 22:06

Re: WWE
 
He wasn't too bad, he just took Ziggler to the wrong corner. Silly error but that's why he keeps being put in tag teams, to iron out things like that. I can see Vince having big things planned for him.

wwe 11-10-2011 22:24

Re: WWE
 
i want good old JR Back :( i want him back for good not to get fired

TheDon 11-10-2011 23:18

Re: WWE
 
One of the worst Raws ever.

The HHH show is in full swing.

Chad 14-10-2011 17:09

Re: WWE
 
I hope this isn't too off topic.

We all know that in the WWE Universe you should never try what you see on RAW and Smackdown at home, or anywhere else.

The first WWF show I watched via SKY was Wrestle Mania VI .... Hogan Vs. Warrior. There was no such warnings about copying the superstars back then.

Can you remember the first wrestling move you tried on a friend, family members etc. Alternatively can you remember the first move you received?

I was 11 at school and whilst my teacher left the classroom my friend grabbed me and gave me the "Perfect Plex". This was the suplex come pin used by the late great Mr. Perfect. It was on a tiled floor which hurt like a mother sucker. I actually cried and grassed him up to the teacher.

TheDon 15-10-2011 13:42

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Smackdown sure do love their Battle Royals.

Was hoping Zack Ryder would luck into a win then challenge Ziggler for the US title. Was happy to see him eliminate Ziggler (completely over looked by the commentators) but alas, wasn't to be.

Him then inserting himself into a tag match against Ziggler and Swagger though made up for it. So that's 1 singles pin, 2 tag team pins, and a Battle Royal elimination he has on Ziggler. They've got a nice feud building on his youtube show as well. I'd say it was building up to a title shot at vengeance, but they're more likely to give Ziggler and Swagger a tag shot. There's no doubt in my mind Ryder will be carrying a title by the years end though, and all thanks to youtube.

I'm hoping Beth pretty much squashing K2 will be the end of that, they seem to have been fighting twice a week for the past few months.

Oh and what a surprise that Orton had to go over in the Battle Royal, did not see that coming at all. He's perfected his Cena style reboot as well, getting destroyed all match then suddenly when Big Show comes to clear the ring he's up and fighting fit as if nothing has happened.

Jameseh 15-10-2011 19:08

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35315989)
I'd say it was building up to a title shot at vengeance, but they're more likely to give Ziggler and Swagger a tag shot

Two tag team matches in one PPV? Maybe Teddy Long is booking Vengeance.

Russ 15-10-2011 19:16

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35315544)
I hope this isn't too off topic.

We all know that in the WWE Universe you should never try what you see on RAW and Smackdown at home, or anywhere else.

The first WWF show I watched via SKY was Wrestle Mania VI .... Hogan Vs. Warrior. There was no such warnings about copying the superstars back then.

Can you remember the first wrestling move you tried on a friend, family members etc. Alternatively can you remember the first move you received?

I was 11 at school and whilst my teacher left the classroom my friend grabbed me and gave me the "Perfect Plex". This was the suplex come pin used by the late great Mr. Perfect. It was on a tiled floor which hurt like a mother sucker. I actually cried and grassed him up to the teacher.

First move I ever tried was a wristlock from a collar-and-elbow lock-up in my first wrestling training session. For weeks that's all we did, just chain wrestling. Basic stuff first.

Any kind of suplex is particularly dangerous, if the sleeper isn't helping the move correctly then it can be just as dangerous for the lead.

TheDon 15-10-2011 20:16

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35316083)
Two tag team matches in one PPV? Maybe Teddy Long is booking Vengeance.

True, but they are trying to build the tag division back up.

wwe 15-10-2011 20:20

Re: WWE
 
I reed on the sun web site a while bk that undertaker was due to return just befor the ppv

Russ 15-10-2011 20:48

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35316100)
True, but they are trying to build the tag division back up.

Doing a damn fine job too, so far. Miz and Truth could be as revolutionary as DX were back in the day.

adzii_nufc 16-10-2011 04:39

Re: WWE
 
Rumours said the Undertaker is due to return on October 28th which lands on Smackdown.

Of course Smackdown is taped on a tuesday so October 25th.

You would think they would have his return on RAW so it's live. I'd much rather he returned at Vengeance.

Kingofthedead4 16-10-2011 12:54

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35316194)
Rumours said the Undertaker is due to return on October 28th which lands on Smackdown.

Of course Smackdown is taped on a tuesday so October 25th.

You would think they would have his return on RAW so it's live. I'd much rather he returned at Vengeance.

I hope he is fully healed this time, he was in real bad shape at wrestlemania when he thought HHH injured. Being a massive taker fan I would love him to comeback, but if he risks long term problems I think he should retire, would hate to see him in a couple of years being inducted into the hall of fame in a wheelchair.

Russ 16-10-2011 13:30

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He won't be totally healed, he's been working injured for years. Word is he only has one possibly 2 matches left in him, the final one being at next year's Wrestlemania where he'll retire with the 22-0 streak intact.

TheDon 16-10-2011 13:31

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4 (Post 35316351)
I hope he is fully healed this time, he was in real bad shape at wrestlemania when he thought HHH injured. Being a massive taker fan I would love him to comeback, but if he risks long term problems I think he should retire, would hate to see him in a couple of years being inducted into the hall of fame in a wheelchair.

The problem with his comebacks are everyone knows he's never going to be more than a once or twice a year fighter. He just doesn't have it in him. Even a fully healed up Taker can't go any more.

I'm just wondering if they're actually going to let him retire with the streak intact or will they use it to put over a new guy. Although knowing the WWE they'll give his streak to Cena.

The only person on the roster I think can take Taker to a decent match these days would be Daniel Bryan, they could have a submission match very low on bumps that would be safe and pretty entertaining watching two guys chain submission moves and counters. But WWE don't seem to want to push DB even after giving him the briefcase. The only way I could see it working is if they put the WHC on Taker before WM, and then had DB go over him ending the streak. But there's two major issues with that, 1) it'd take a monumental push to get DB up to the level that that would happen seeing as they've just buried the guy since MITB. 2) it'd be throwing 2 of the big WM fights into one. The card would be pretty damn weak if they did it, especially if they stick with Cena vs Rock for the title, that's 2 matches that should really be 4.

Kingofthedead4 16-10-2011 13:34

Re: WWE
 
Dare I say it, Coming soon to WWE The Son of The Undertaker :(

adzii_nufc 24-10-2011 02:12

Re: WWE
 
Got the feeling the guy Lauranitis is texting all the time is actually CM Punk...

Edit: Nope still the big boring Kevin Nash...

Big show and Mark Henry just repeated the Brock & Show superplex with the same results.

Possible Injury to Big Show.

Russ 24-10-2011 21:27

Re: WWE
 
When they did the Show/Lesnar thing a few years ago it was pretty impressive but last night's show did nothing for me because a) we'd seen it before and b) having put a few rings together and knowing their internal structure, collapsing in that manner could not possibly happen when a large weight lands in the middle like that.

Saying that though, it was unexpected and a great spot although I'd have preferred a proper finish.

Anyway, I'm adding a new rule to this thread and will repeat it as necessary for a while.....

As most WWE shows are broadcast from around midnight/2am in the UK, please do NOT post spoilers in this thread within 24 hours of the show ending. This gives a chance to those of us who either recorded it or plan to watch it later in the day.

If you wish to discuss anything within that 24 hours please use the 'spoiler' tags. This goes for RAW/Smackdown shows as well as PPVs.

wwe 24-10-2011 21:48

Re: WWE
 
Really was the ring not ment to do that? Yet I'm remember as well when it happened with lesnar

Russ 24-10-2011 22:07

Re: WWE
 
The ring was gimmicked to do that.

TheDon 24-10-2011 23:26

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35320701)
but last night's show did nothing for me

Pretty much the same.

Started off fairly strongly, Tag team, Ryder Ziggler, Christian Sheamus and even the Divas match were pretty decent for the opening half. Then it just went downhill.

Orton again had to go clean over someone. And despite Rhodes current thing being to restore the honour of the intercontinental title he had a non title match because "lol like we'd stick that thing on Orton".

HHH+Punk vs awesome truth, was bad. Really bad.

Cena vs Del Rio, I'm REALLY fed up with Cena's constant no-sells of pretty much everything. His idea of selling is "gonna stay on the floor doing nothing and then bam, straight to my feet!".
Del Rio did an awesome job of making stupid light steel wall segment things look like they weighed half a ton, then Cena just lies there until a count of 8 and bam, gets straight out from under them. The only reason I even bothered watching it was because I thought the gimmicked ring could add to it, but no, it didn't.

There some awesome sellers in WWE, people that will carry an injury through a match and make you believe they actually got hurt, and then there's Cena at the opposite end of the spectrum, who is invincible, even when you beat him he'll be back up as soon as the bell goes and walking around like nothing happened.

adzii_nufc 25-10-2011 14:46

Re: WWE
 
Apologies if I spoiled parts of Vengeance for anyone. :)

Russ 25-10-2011 15:14

Re: WWE
 
It's ok, just a general guideline for now but I'll repeat it as and when needed to get the message across. It's basically a 24 hour spoiler embargo to give everyone the chance to watch it. :)

wwe 25-10-2011 16:46

Re: WWE
 
I think it's going to be triple H versus Kevin Nash at survival series

Russ 25-10-2011 22:26

Re: WWE
 
From last night's Raw...

Spoiler: 
It was officially confirmed Cena and Rock will take on Awesome Truth as Survivor Series.

Next week Michael Cole takes on JR, if Cole loses he leaves the WWE. I really hope that will be the end of commentators taking part in matches.

Punk v. ADR for the title so it looks like Cena is finally out of the championship race for a while, this will now be the run-up to hiw WM match with the Rock.

wwe 25-10-2011 23:40

Re: WWE
 
WWe.com has just said triple h is going to be out for 6 weeks

adzii_nufc 26-10-2011 22:23

Re: WWE
 
I think Triple H was injured at Vengeance by the bad landing on the powerbomb.

If not its a Kayfabe injury and he'll make a surprise return to beat up Nash.

adzii_nufc 29-10-2011 17:33

Re: WWE
 
It looks like WWE have actually found a GM for Raw, He/She will be introduced when the JL storyline is done with. Usually ends with a typical Vince Mcmahon return & your fired segment along with JL leaving the building after receiving the locker room's finishing moves :D

wwe 29-10-2011 20:43

Re: WWE
 
Wounder who it is?

Jameseh 29-10-2011 21:11

Re: WWE
 
Mike Adamle's twin.

wwe 29-10-2011 21:55

Re: WWE
 
Bit of me thinking it will be edge

wwe 05-11-2011 11:39

Re: WWE
 
Did raw start at 1 this week?

Russ 05-11-2011 12:33

Re: WWE
 
:eek: :eek: :eek:

I have just watched the Bret and Shawn interview DVD and I'm still in shock.

This is the one where Jim Ross sat them both down to talk about their beginnings in the great tag-team era of the late 80s, their subsequent singles careers, their behind-the-scenes rivalries and of course a certain match from Montreal.

Both were very open and pulled no punches about what annoyed them about each other, both acknowledged that 'the office' encouraged it but what was a bit of a shame was quite often when Bret mentioned something nasty Shawn did or said, HBK did the "I don't remember that but it sounds like something I'd have done so I take responsibility for it" thing - not bad for someone who was whacked out on drugs for most of the era.

Both took their own share of responsibility for Montreal, neither admitted their parts were wrong but there was a genuineness in their desire that it should have been avoided - Bret pointed out that at that point he didn't even have to turn up at Survivor Series as he'd far exceeded his contracted number of matches for that year.

But towards the end, Bret gets really emotional when he talks about his stroke, when Vince called him up as soon as he switched his phone on in the hospital, about how he felt relieved to know that Shawn also wanted to make peace, it was awesome and a number of times Bret was fighting back tears.

Fantastic DVD and I recommend it to any WWE fan from that era. I've always been a massive HBK mark and was pretty indifferent to Bret in the 90s but IMO the Hitman came off slightly better in this. It wasn't a rivalry DVD in the way of trying to get more sympathy than the other, it was just honesty. Bret had a lot to get off his chest (Shawn has done numerous interviews over the years admitting his part in Montreal and being a hard person to like back in the day) and you get the impression this was the first time he'd spoken so openly like this.

Incredible stuff, certainly my favourite wrestling documentary after 'The Monday Night Wars'.

wwe 05-11-2011 21:31

Re: WWE
 
Anybody on here going to see WWe while there in the uk im going to the tv shows in Liverpool cart wait. Wish they would do a ppv over here

Jameseh 06-11-2011 02:26

Re: WWE
 
Had trains been a little cheaper I would have went but there's always april.

Kingofthedead4 06-11-2011 08:38

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35325984)
Anybody on here going to see WWe while there in the uk im going to the tv shows in Liverpool cart wait. Wish they would do a ppv over here

They did Summerslam at Wembley a lot of years ago. I loved it. Last time I went to see WWE was 3 weeks before Owen Hart died. Stone cold vs The Rock was the main event.

---------- Post added at 08:38 ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 ----------

Mick Foley appeared on Wrestling Voice Radio this week and spoke about returning to WWE last week at a live event from Dublin, Ireland.

When asked about why Foley chose an overseas house show for his big return, Foley said:

"The basic answer is because I just happened to be flying into Dublin the day they were there and my hotel was literally across the street. I called and asked if I could come hang out and it was a lot of fun."

Foley was originally advertised November 14th RAW Supershow from Boston featuring The Rock's return, but says he wasn't surprised when WWE scrapped the idea and decided to keep the attention on The Rock that night.

Foley also said he probably has one big match left in him and named The Miz as the person he'd want to wrestle against.

adzii_nufc 06-11-2011 10:44

Re: WWE
 
WWE had a few PPV's that were UK only

Can check them on Wiki :p:

There have been massive rumours for ages that there are plans to bring a WrestleMania to Wembley

Russ 06-11-2011 10:56

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35326108)
WWE had a few PPV's that were UK only

Can check them on Wiki :p:

There have been massive rumours for ages that there are plans to bring a WrestleMania to Wembley

Never EVER happen. The yanks see 'Mania as American as the White House. We may get another SummerSlam or something like that but Wrestlemania? More chance of Vince going in to business with TNA.

wwe 06-11-2011 11:39

Re: WWE
 
True I cart ever see us having wrestlimania in the uk or anywhere else. Yer I remember when they used to have 2 ppv here which were uk only. I think they don't do ppv here course of the time differents but I'm happy to go the arena at 1am

Media Boy UK 06-11-2011 11:47

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35326113)
Never EVER happen. The yanks see 'Mania as American as the White House. We may get another SummerSlam or something like that but Wrestlemania? More chance of Vince going in to business with TNA.

We got SummerSlam in the early 90s from London.

WWE tape it on an Saturday night when it was broadcast in the US on the Sunday night with Sky Sports broadcasting it on the Monday.

Russ 06-11-2011 11:51

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35326130)
I think they don't do ppv here course of the time differents but I'm happy to go the arena at 1am

You'll be the only one there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy
We got SummerSlam in the early 90s from London.

Hence my use of the word 'another'....

Media Boy UK 06-11-2011 12:01

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35326139)
You'll be the only one there.



Hence my use of the word 'another'....

Sorry - I misread your post.

wwe 06-11-2011 19:32

Re: WWE
 
Have WWe said where there going to be on march or April?

Russ 07-11-2011 10:03

Re: WWE
 
Just found out my mate is having a try-out at Raw tonight :D

Central 09-11-2011 13:45

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35326587)
Just found out my mate is having a try-out at Raw tonight :D

How did he get on?

Russ 09-11-2011 14:06

Re: WWE
 
In the end it was 2 mates who had try-outs - one was with a groups of guys who showed what they could do in the ring before anyone came in. Various agents and talents such as Cody Rhodes, Goldust, Jamie Noble etc were assessing them. The guys who took part won't know how they did until they either get a letter inviting them to FCW or for a dark match the next time WWE is over.

The second guy was billed as 'Matthew Kay' and lost in a dark match to Justin Gabriel on Smackdown this week.

wwe 09-11-2011 18:27

Re: WWE
 
Raw and smack down was brill. Triple h was there seen him and the raw gm get out of there limo at there hotel. Car't believe there only doing a raw tv show and 1 tour next April.

Kingofthedead4 10-11-2011 08:15

Re: WWE
 
Henry o Godwin in critical condition



Former WWE talent Mark Canterbury (a/k/a Henry O. Godwinn), 47, was hospitalized following a car wreck Tuesday night in Lindside, West Virginia.

He reportedly drove his automobile over a cliff. Law enforcement used the Jaws of Life to remove Canterbury from his automobile and he was flown to an intensive care unit.

Canterbury had both his spleen and appendix removed Wednesday. Doctors discovered a tumor in his appendix while performing surgery, resulting in its removal. His leg was broken in three places, and both of his lungs were punctured. He also suffered thirteen broken ribs.

source: F4WOnline.com

wwe 14-11-2011 12:16

Re: WWE
 
How come raw only doing 2 shows next April in the uk
The tour dates are

Smackdown
Sat 14 Manchester M.E.M
Tue 17 London O2 (TV Show)
Wed 18 Sheffield
Thur 19 Cardiff
Fri 20 Newcastle
Sat 21 Glasgow

RAW
Sun 15 Nottingham Capital FM
Mon 16 London O2 (TV Show)

adzii_nufc 14-11-2011 17:01

Re: WWE
 
Remember Raw is a 3-hour live special featuring The Rock

Start time is 1am

Kingofthedead4 24-11-2011 11:12

Re: WWE
 
After almost nine years with WWE, John Morrison's days as a Superstar are coming to an end.

PWInsider.com reports that Morrison will be parting ways with WWE following next Monday's Raw SuperShow in Columbia, South Carolina. His original contract with the organization expired earlier this month but he agreed to an extension to fulfill shows in which he was advertised for.

Morrison has been looking forward to leaving WWE for the past several months due to unhappiness. The feeling is said to be mutual as WWE did not make much of an effort to retain the Prince of Parkour.

According to sources within TNA Wrestling, company officials are strongly interested in utilizing Morrison and Melina as a couple. There has also been talk of making him the centerpiece of the X Division and having him work a program with current champion Austin Aries. However, it is unknown whether Morrison has spoken with TNA.

Jameseh 28-11-2011 04:43

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35329950)
The tour dates are...

TV tapings in London? Bah, was really hoping to go to both shows in April.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35329950)
How come raw only doing 2 shows next April in the uk

From my memory SD! do one tour and RAW do the other so expect all the live events in Nov 2012 to be RAW.

Media Boy UK 28-11-2011 13:12

Re: WWE
 
WWE Smackdown is LIVE on Sky Sports 3 at Tuesday night at 1am.

WWE Smackdown is set to end at 3am so if you cant stay up set the next show to tape as WWE Live always run over the slot given to them.

wwe 06-12-2011 00:37

Re: WWE
 
Lilian Garcia has just announced on her facebook page that she is returning to SD as the annocher . Cart wait how come the 1 at the moment leaving 4?

Jameseh 06-12-2011 13:24

Re: WWE
 
Knowing WWE at the moment its probably because Cole doesn't like Chimel and its some storyline. I'm really getting sick of commentary storylines at the moment, why can't the shows maintain a consistent team for longer than a week?

Russ 06-12-2011 13:59

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35341412)
Knowing WWE at the moment its probably because Cole doesn't like Chimel and its some storyline. I'm really getting sick of commentary storylines at the moment, why can't the shows maintain a consistent team for longer than a week?

Occum's razor - the simplest answer is usually the right one. Maybe her singing career hasn't taken off as well as she'd hoped ;)

Kingofthedead4 07-12-2011 08:32

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35341428)
Occum's razor - the simplest answer is usually the right one. Maybe her singing career hasn't taken off as well as she'd hoped ;)

Someone's been playing LA Noir :D

wwe 07-12-2011 12:55

Re: WWE
 
Will we in the uk be able to get WWe network when it starts next year?

Jameseh 07-12-2011 13:08

Re: WWE
 
Nope, unless Sky wants to work their magic.

Russ 07-12-2011 14:19

Re: WWE
 
I can see it happening though as long as they sort out the distribution rights. Obviously it won't start the same time (can you imagine that? Other countries getting something the same time as america?!?!?!) but it would be a great way for Sky to lump all the WWE programming together on one channel.

Media Boy UK 07-12-2011 14:45

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35342002)
I can see it happening though as long as they sort out the distribution rights. Obviously it won't start the same time (can you imagine that? Other countries getting something the same time as america?!?!?!) but it would be a great way for Sky to lump all the WWE programming together on one channel.

We have WWE Network here in the UK right now - it called Sky Sports 3.:)

wwe 13-12-2011 04:07

Re: WWE
 
The ending of raw was ausome always wanted
Spoiler: 
kane
to come back like that

CrazeUK 15-12-2011 07:53

Re: WWE
 
Anyone on here know if WWE TLC will be in HD... or if any future WWE PPV will be

Kingofthedead4 15-12-2011 11:44

Re: WWE
 
They are in HD on sky, but we will not receive any PPV's on box office in HD in the near future.

Jameseh 16-12-2011 03:53

Re: WWE
 
Its a urine sample when the free PPVs are in HD and the £15 ones aren't but that's life. Ordered TLC, can't wait for a great event with a Cena-less card.

Jameseh 19-12-2011 13:14

Re: WWE
 
... and it was, barring HHH/Nash. Crowd was dead, the bumps were terrible and I wouldn't be surprised if Nash was legitimately injured.

But the rest, great, well worth the money and lack of sleep.

Russ 19-12-2011 19:51

Re: WWE
 
I was honestly expecting a "This is boring" chant during that match but it was good to see big Kev can still work. However rumour is that was his last match for WWE.

Spoiler: 
They only put the belt on Daniel Bryan because Mark Henry has picked up a bad injury which makes me think this title run won't be for very long. I'm happy for him but he doesn't strike me as a credible champion.


The main event was excellent, I loved what they did with the handcuffs.

All in all, 8/10 for the whole thing.

wwe 20-12-2011 13:37

Re: WWE
 
Was a really good ppv. Hope that wasn't Kevin Nash last match. Be good to see him fight orther people maybe even cmpunk and become WWe champion.

Russ 20-12-2011 14:28

Re: WWE
 
I can't see WWE having a 52 year old as their champion. I think a run against CM Punk would be great (and they have history so it would make sense) but knowing the way Nash works, he's very careful with his money apparently so obviously doesn't need to wrestle. If he did work a programme with Punk then he'd more than likely make that his final run and would probably want it at Wrestlemania.

WWE are unlikely to run with that as they're still hoping for a Stone Cold v Punk match for it.

TheDaddy 20-12-2011 17:10

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35348484)
I can't see WWE having a 52 year old as their champion. I think a run against CM Punk would be great (and they have history so it would make sense) but knowing the way Nash works, he's very careful with his money apparently so obviously doesn't need to wrestle. If he did work a programme with Punk then he'd more than likely make that his final run and would probably want it at Wrestlemania.

WWE are unlikely to run with that as they're still hoping for a Stone Cold v Punk match for it.

Kev's on a 5 year contract so they're gonna have to think of some thing for him to do.

Russ 20-12-2011 17:15

Re: WWE
 
Ah yeah, he's on a Legend's deal as well as working as a backstage agent but is unlikely to be used as an in-ring performer.

TheDaddy 20-12-2011 17:29

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35348591)
Ah yeah, he's on a Legend's deal as well as working as a backstage agent but is unlikely to be used as an in-ring performer.

Some thing tells me he won't settle for being a trainer on tough enough or what ever that crappy shows called or the like no matter how good the cash is.

CrazeUK 21-12-2011 19:10

Re: WWE
 
yea is was a great PPV, money well spent! best things wer cm punk and of course there NO CENA made the event special! but i was dissapointed that kane didnt go for mark henry and save his former tag team partner bigshow... daniel bryan stunk up the event... i dont like him at all...

oh... and thanks for leeting me kno that virgin still needs to stop letting sky rule them!

Chad 21-12-2011 21:42

Re: WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35342011)
We have WWE Network here in the UK right now - it called Sky Sports 3.:)

Your not joking. The 29th December is a wrestling fans dream! It's one of the best days of programming I've ever seen!

7:00am - 8:00am - WWE Experience

11:00am - 1:00pm - WWE Special

1:00pm - 2:00pm - Wrestlemania XXVII Highlights

2:00pm - 3:00pm - The Top 50 wrestlers in WWE history

3:00pm - 4:00 pm - RAW's best moments 2011

4:00pm - 5:00pm - A profile of The Big Show

5:00pm - 6:00pm - The very best of WCW & Monday Nitro

6:00pm - 7:00pm - A profile of John Cena

7:00pm - 8:00pm - The True Story of Wrestlemania

8:00pm - 10:00pm - The Greatest Superstars of the 21st Century

10:00pm - 12:00pm - WWE RAW

12:00am - 1:00am - WWE NXT

That's 15 hours of WWE goodness! You better make some space on the V+ and TiVo:)

wwe 22-12-2011 02:39

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35349270)
Your not joking. The 29th December is a wrestling fans dream! It's one of the best days of programming I've ever seen!

7:00am - 8:00am - WWE Experience

11:00am - 1:00pm - WWE Special

1:00pm - 2:00pm - Wrestlemania XXVII Highlights

2:00pm - 3:00pm - The Top 50 wrestlers in WWE history

3:00pm - 4:00 pm - RAW's best moments 2011

4:00pm - 5:00pm - A profile of The Big Show

5:00pm - 6:00pm - The very best of WCW & Monday Nitro

6:00pm - 7:00pm - A profile of John Cena

7:00pm - 8:00pm - The True Story of Wrestlemania

8:00pm - 10:00pm - The Greatest Superstars of the 21st Century

10:00pm - 12:00pm - WWE RAW

12:00am - 1:00am - WWE NXT

That's 15 hours of WWE goodness! You better make some space on the V+ and TiVo:)

How much WWe stuff do they need on don't get me wrong im a huge WWe fan but 15 hours of it

TheDon 24-12-2011 21:35

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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35348460)
Was a really good ppv. Hope that wasn't Kevin Nash last match. Be good to see him fight orther people maybe even cmpunk and become WWe champion.

This has to be sarcasm?

If it isn't, did you not watch the match? It was the worst match for a long time. It was boring, slow, and obvious that both guys were too old and too far gone to be in a ring.

I'd rather have hornswoggle wrestling punk for the title and winning in a k2 style roll up then have to sit through another match involving Kevin Nash.

Russ 24-12-2011 21:52

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35350529)
This has to be sarcasm?

If it isn't, did you not watch the match? It was the worst match for a long time. It was boring, slow, and obvious that both guys were too old and too far gone to be in a ring.

I'd rather have hornswoggle wrestling punk for the title and winning in a k2 style roll up then have to sit through another match involving Kevin Nash.

Had it been a 'normal' match then I don't think it would have been so bad. OK was never going to be a Steamboat/Flair but guys of that age shouldn't be working a spot-monkey type match such as a ladder match.

Nash regarded it as his last WWE match and as I loved Diesel so much I'm happy for it to stay that way.

TheDon 24-12-2011 23:48

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350532)
Had it been a 'normal' match then I don't think it would have been so bad.

I do.

Just watching Nash walk to the ring is painful, the guy is near enough crippled.
He barely managed to jackknife powerbomb HHH outside of a match.

He shouldn't be anywhere near a ring, not just because he can't put on a decent match anymore but for his own health as well.

The rumours are that they are going to do a Undertaker HHH again at wrestlemania (hence HHH doing the whole "only one man walked out of the ring" thing) and that's a match I have no interest in seeing again. It was bad enough last time where 2/3rds of the match was two old guys lying on the floor having a breather. Undertaker needs someone that can work well enough that it covers up the fact undertaker can't really go anymore. Only person on the roster I can think who fits the bill who hasn't already worked a program with Undertaker is Daniel Bryan, but that'd need a hell of a build to make him look viable.

Russ 25-12-2011 07:08

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I don't think you're giving HHH credit here - don't get me wrong, he's no ring general but in both matches you've mentioned I think he slowed down to allow the other man to work more comfortably.

We all know Taker's knees are shot to pieces and is restricted in what he can do. Even HBK looked like he slowed his pace down at their WM match to accommodate UT's movements. I'm not saying if he was at full health that he and HHH would have put on a classic btw.

Same with the Nash match. HHH is not going to humiliate his opponent by working at a pace which makes it look stupid.

As for Bryan.....I can't ever see him at Main Event status, which is why I'm guessing his title reign will be a short one. OK Benoit made a credible champion but his muscle mass was more impressive than Bryan's so he looked a bit bigger but he also genuinely looked like a tough SOB. So yes, Vince will really have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to make him credible.

If a face-turn was in order....what would you say about Ziggler?

adzii_nufc 25-12-2011 07:34

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Daniel Bryan bores the hell out of me. His Entrance theme is as bad as Santino's and I'm tired of him being compared to Kurt Angle.

Russ 25-12-2011 10:11

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You can see what WWE are trying to do there, making 2 guys champions who were big on the independent circuit to try to appeal to the hardcore smarks. It helps that Punk and Bryan both have legitimate submission backgrounds but I don't buy Bryan as champ. Apparently Punk has been losing viewers on Raw which is surprising but his Tshirt sales are through the roof (I should know, I have one :p: )

wwe 25-12-2011 10:38

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35350612)
Daniel Bryan bores the hell out of me. His Entrance theme is as bad as Santino's and I'm tired of him being compared to Kurt Angle.

I cart stand him. Wish the WWe would get rid of him.

TheDon 25-12-2011 13:59

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Originally Posted by Russ
I don't think you're giving HHH credit here - don't get me wrong, he's no ring general but in both matches you've mentioned I think he slowed down to allow the other man to work more comfortably.

Yeah I'll agree with that, but he still can't work to a level where he should be main eventing a PPV, especially not in a match we've already seen, and wasn't really that exciting the first tme round.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350608)
If a face-turn was in order....what would you say about Ziggler?

I'd absolutely hate it.
Ziggler makes an amazing heel, I'd say one of the best on the roster. He's an awesome worker too. He's exactly what the WWE needs in a heel, turning him face would be ridiculous.

He is too big for the US title, I'm glad he's dropped it to Ryder because hopefully it means they're going to move him up the card. I have a feeling we'll be seeing a Zigger vs Ryder program soon, which would be awesome as they are both excellent workers and the feud basically writes itself. The ultimate show off vs the humble warrior.

They need to start giving Ziggler more promo time, his segments on Z true long island story are always entertaining, if he can pull that sort of stuff off on TV then it'll be pretty easy to build him as a credible top heel.

I'm struggling to see where they'd find room for another face as well, they're not really short of them, what they're short of is credible well booked heels. Mark Henry is the only heel they've made look strong recently, shame he's injured else it'd be interesting to see if they kept his push going into wrestlemania.

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I cart stand him. Wish the WWe would get rid of him.

They just need to build him better. He's one of the best wrestlers on the roster. Getting rid of him would be the dumbest thing they could do.

Russ 25-12-2011 16:34

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I was on the co-codomol this morning when I mentioned Ziggler as a heel :D

What I meant was how about him v Taker at Mania?

Everyone knows Taker will retire undefeated at VM but each year his opponent should have something about him which makes you think he might be the one to end it. It should be someone he hasn't crossed paths with before and is a credible winner. I see that in Ziggler.

TheDaddy 25-12-2011 16:52

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35350575)
Only person on the roster I can think who fits the bill who hasn't already worked a program with Undertaker is Daniel Bryan, but that'd need a hell of a build to make him look viable.

Christian could do it imo if he recovers in time...

Russ 25-12-2011 17:01

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As good a worker as he is, I don't see Christian ever being high profile enough to be seen as contender to end the streak.

TheDon 25-12-2011 17:34

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350747)
I was on the co-codomol this morning when I mentioned Ziggler as a heel :D

What I meant was how about him v Taker at Mania?

Everyone knows Taker will retire undefeated at VM but each year his opponent should have something about him which makes you think he might be the one to end it. It should be someone he hasn't crossed paths with before and is a credible winner. I see that in Ziggler.

Yeah, Ziggler could be a decent shout. Would require the same sort of build as Bryan though as even though the guys pretty damn talented people don't really see it.
They could segue Ziggler's current gimmick quite easily into "I'm that damn good I should end the streak". The problem being though they need to build him like crazy after how often Ryder's pinned him recently.
Don't get me wrong getting the belt off him was by far the best thing to do (it was pretty much holding him back), but he hasn't exactly came out of it looking strong.

People keep saying CM Punk, but he's probably below HHH in my list of match choices. They've wrestled a fair few times and it's always lacked that connection and understanding that turns a good match into a great one. They don't seem to work well together.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350755)
As good a worker as he is, I don't see Christian ever being high profile enough to be seen as contender to end the streak.

Indeed. Christian can never really be more than a midcarder with the occasional main event run now. His chance of being an established main eventer of the status needed to take on the streak sailed a long time ago. Which is unfortunate because the guy is extremely talented. He deserves something more than he has which is why I was hoping his WHC run would have been better than the joke it was (and was pretty much just a case of "lets give Christian the title because it's what Edge wants"). Guys done nothing but put others over for a long time now. He makes everyone he works with look amazing.

Some of the matches he got out of Orton were crazy.

I'd love to see Christian built up to the stage where he could be a legitimate contender for ending the streak, he's been one of my favourites for a long long time, but it's just not going to happen.

Honestly I think it's more likely that the 2nd will see a Jericho return and he'll be built up to face Undertaker.

Russ 25-12-2011 17:50

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Jericho would be perfect. It's one of the worst-kept secrets that he's returning next week and it's being said he's only after a short run, so up to WM would be ideal. His crazy heel persona would be believable as someone going after the streak (I wouldn't mind betting that between now and WM there'll be a Jericho v HHH match as a "number 1 contender to end the streak") and is one of the few men left who could carry 'Taker and sell the hell out of his moves.

wwe 26-12-2011 02:23

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350773)
Jericho would be perfect. It's one of the worst-kept secrets that he's returning next week and it's being said he's only after a short run, so up to WM would be ideal. His crazy heel persona would be believable as someone going after the streak (I wouldn't mind betting that between now and WM there'll be a Jericho v HHH match as a "number 1 contender to end the streak") and is one of the few men left who could carry 'Taker and sell the hell out of his moves.

I read on the sun newspaper that Jericho has hunged his boots up as he was saying you woun't see him in a WWe ring again and no he woun't go to tna. As he wants to stay loyal to the WWe. I would love y2j to come back I've been a huge fan of his ever since he joined the wwf (WWe)

Jameseh 26-12-2011 03:32

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I'm hoping for Christian/Bryan for the WHC at WM, two of my favourites and both seemingly great workers. Hopefully Punk/Austin though I can't see how either would end up in the situation and definitely Y2J/Taker for the streak.

Russ 26-12-2011 06:55

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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35350859)
I read on the sun newspaper that Jericho has hunged his boots up as he was saying you woun't see him in a WWe ring again and no he woun't go to tna. As he wants to stay loyal to the WWe. I would love y2j to come back I've been a huge fan of his ever since he joined the wwf (WWe)

He is coming back. What he said was he'd never wrestle for WWE again - but that was Jericho being cryptic, as WWE (at the time) didn't call their guys wrestlers, they called them performers.

wwe 26-12-2011 13:16

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350871)
He is coming back. What he said was he'd never wrestle for WWE again - but that was Jericho being cryptic, as WWE (at the time) didn't call their guys wrestlers, they called them performers.

Yer that was it. I really do hope he comes back and soon.

TheDaddy 26-12-2011 13:20

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35350871)
He is coming back. What he said was he'd never wrestle for WWE again - but that was Jericho being cryptic, as WWE (at the time) didn't call their guys wrestlers, they called them performers.

Oh are they a wrestling company again now? Might have to start watching again if so.

Russ 26-12-2011 13:24

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35350952)
Oh are they a wrestling company again now?

Depends which state's taxation laws Vince is trying to get around.

wwe 03-01-2012 03:40

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]Chris Jericho is bk get innnnnn Y2J

Russ 03-01-2012 07:30

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Which part of "do not post spoilers" do you not understand?!

For crying out loud, some people :grind:


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