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peachey
09-01-2004, 13:10
Has anybody ever found a three leafed clover?

downquark1
09-01-2004, 13:12
Has anybody ever found a three leafed clover?
:erm: those are the normal ones

So yes, millions

peachey
09-01-2004, 13:17
:erm: those are the normal ones

So yes, millions


oh yeah

sorry about that

I meant a four leafed one

ZrByte
09-01-2004, 13:28
I found a mutant 6 leaf clover once. Not one that someone had made either (You know, by twisting two clovers together) this one was still growing in the ground and had one stem but six leaves, must have been like a siemese twin clover or something :shrug:

Nemesis
09-01-2004, 13:29
I found a mutant 6 leaf clover once. Not one that someone had made either (You know, by twisting two clovers together) this one was still growing in the ground and had one stem but six leaves, must have been like a siemese twin clover or something :shrug:

Ahhh, now did you talk to the leprechaun with two heads :D

peachey
09-01-2004, 13:30
I found a mutant 6 leaf clover once. Not one that someone had made either (You know, by twisting two clovers together) this one was still growing in the ground and had one stem but six leaves, must have been like a siemese twin clover or something :shrug:


that might have been more lucky than a four leafed one!

did you notice any good luck coming your way soon after?

dilli-theclaw
09-01-2004, 13:31
oh yeah

sorry about that

I meant a four leafed one

Yup

Sociable
09-01-2004, 13:36
Used to have a patch of the four leafed ones in the back garden of my childhood home.

I guess that's why I have always been blessed with the good fortune of having good friends like you guys throughout my life. :)

Nemesis
09-01-2004, 13:38
Used to have a patch of the four leafed ones in the back garden of my childhood home.

I guess that's why I have always been blessed with the good fortune of having good friends like you guys throughout my life. :)

Stop it ... you're gonna make me sick .... :D

Mal
09-01-2004, 13:38
Yup
Lucky sod! :D

ZrByte
09-01-2004, 13:39
Ahhh, now did you talk to the leprechaun with two heads :D

Puts on Ralph Wiggum Voice "I met the Leprechaun, He told me to burn things"

that might have been more lucky than a four leafed one!

did you notice any good luck coming your way soon after?

Not really, infact you could say things have gone downhill ever since, even after I got rid of it. Though im pretty sure most of it is my fault :D :shrug: :D

Ramrod
09-01-2004, 13:47
I found a mutant 6 leaf clover once. Not one that someone had made either (You know, by twisting two clovers together) this one was still growing in the ground and had one stem but six leaves, must have been like a siemese twin clover or something :shrug:Where was that.....Sellafield? :disturbd: :D

ZrByte
09-01-2004, 14:12
Where was that.....Sellafield? :disturbd: :D

Pah! Sellafield has nothing compared to the fabled Mutational abilities of the River Mersey, of Wich I live right next to :D muwhahaha.

Though apparently the Mersey is super clean now, they found a colony of Octopus living in it wich nead super clean water.

Heres an artists conception..... j/k :D

Ramrod
09-01-2004, 14:50
Pah! Sellafield has nothing compared to the fabled Mutational abilities of the River Mersey, of Wich I live right next to :D muwhahaha.

Though apparently the Mersey is super clean now, they found a colony of Octopus living in it wich nead super clean water.

Heres an artists conception..... j/k :D
Anyone see that prog about octopuses a while back where the octopus managed to get out of one tank (in a lab) and get across the floor to the other tank to get at the fish? It was at night and the scientists couldn't figure out how the fish were disappearing until they set up a video camera and caught it in the act. :eek:

danielf
09-01-2004, 14:55
Anyone see that prog about octopuses a while back where the octopus managed to get out of one tank (in a lab) and get across the floor to the other tank to get at the fish? It was at night and the scientists couldn't figure out how the fish were disappearing until they set up a video camera and caught it in the act. :eek:

Are you saying that the octopus went back to it's own tank after eating the fish? (Just to confuse the scientists? :confused: ;)

Ramrod
09-01-2004, 15:07
Are you saying that the octopus went back to it's own tank after eating the fish? (Just to confuse the scientists? :confused: ;)Presumably it went back because thats where it felt at home.....

danielf
09-01-2004, 15:12
Presumably it went back because thats where it felt at home.....

Weird.... Maybe because that's where it normally got fed... The intelligence of the octopus never ceases to astound me. :D

peachey
09-01-2004, 15:22
Weird.... Maybe because that's where it normally got fed... The intelligence of the octopus never ceases to astound me. :D

I saw a program where they had the octopus squeezing through ludicrously narrow tunnels and stuff - like a sort of obstacle course

they have speculated that really massive ones live at the bottom of the sea as they have found whales with big sucker marks on them

....or wait a minute, that might have been a squid

Theodoric
09-01-2004, 19:45
Anyone see that prog about octopuses a while back where the octopus managed to get out of one tank (in a lab) and get across the floor to the other tank to get at the fish? It was at night and the scientists couldn't figure out how the fish were disappearing until they set up a video camera and caught it in the act. :eek:

Well, someone else (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A741539) claims to have seen it. By the way, whatever else it is, the plural of octopus is not octopi. I prefer octopusses (or possibly octopuses), but if you insist I'll agree to octopodes.

Octopi are said to be as intelligent as dogs:

I saw a documentary not long ago, where the researchers couldn't understand why some of the specimens were disappearing. They set up a video camera then left for the night. The culprit was their octopus, which left its tank, crawled along to the tank of the missing creatures, climbed in, ate its supper then crawled out again, and made its way back to its own tank. The fact that it was already well-fed, and it waited until the researchers had gone for the night, proves that it wasn't driven by hunger, and it knew when to go on the hunt...

danielf
09-01-2004, 19:51
and it waited until the researchers had gone for the night, proves that it wasn't driven by hunger, and it knew when to go on the hunt...[/i]


Either that, or it was because the common octopus (http://www.thebigzoo.com/Animals/Common_Octopus.asp) is an active nocturnal predator...

Maggy
09-01-2004, 20:06
Can octopi live out of the water?
I think someone is telling tall tales myself.

Incog :)

Xaccers
09-01-2004, 20:07
Either that, or it was because the common octopus (http://www.thebigzoo.com/Animals/Common_Octopus.asp) is an active nocturnal predator...

:rofl:

nice to see specialists showing just how strong their knowledge is :P

"You mean an octopus has 8 legs? wow! I'd never had realised that"

You can find giant ones around north cali/alaska if memory serves.
They're very tender and inquisitive.

They now believe there are two type of giant squit, the giant squid and the really really big giant squid (or something like that)

Most sea life centres give their octopeds puzzles to work out in order to get food, otherwise they get bored.

homealone
09-01-2004, 20:13
Can octopi live out of the water?
I think someone is telling tall tales myself.

Incog :)

they can't 'live' out of water, but they can survive for a short time.

http://www.nthposition.com/theoctopusmen.php

Maggy
09-01-2004, 20:21
I still don't believe this story.I would have thought that an octopus would have trouble moving about out of water because they have no internal structure.Or summat like that.Desperately trying to remember my A-level Zoology !!

Incog. :scratch:

ZrByte
09-01-2004, 20:29
I still don't believe this story.I would have thought that an octopus would have trouble moving about out of water because they have no internal structure.Or summat like that.Desperately trying to remember my A-level Zoology !!

Incog. :scratch:

Snake manages just fine, I know this isnt exactly the same as a snake has an internal structure but it doesnt use it to move ;)
Also worms seem to manage ;)

Theodoric
09-01-2004, 20:39
[QUOTE=Xaccers]:rofl:



They now believe there are two type of giant squit, the giant squid and the really really big giant squid (or something like that)

QUOTE]
I find that giant squits are often associated with dodgy kebabs. :D

Maggy
09-01-2004, 20:41
I still don't believe it.I won't UNTIL I've actually seen the documentary either.;)

Incog. :)

homealone
09-01-2004, 20:54
I still don't believe this story.I would have thought that an octopus would have trouble moving about out of water because they have no internal structure.Or summat like that.Desperately trying to remember my A-level Zoology !!

Incog. :scratch:

you are right about the lack of a skeletal structure, Incog, but they still have muscles & connective tissue (though not cartilage). They do find it difficult to move out of water & look like a big blob of mucous, but the suckers on their tentacles help quite a lot.

Squid, on the other hand, afaik, are completely helpless out of water.:)

Maggy
09-01-2004, 21:05
you are right about the lack of a skeletal structure, Incog, but they still have muscles & connective tissue (though not cartilage). They do find it difficult to move out of water & look like a big blob of mucous, but the suckers on their tentacles help quite a lot.

Squid, on the other hand, afaik, are completely helpless out of water.:)

This is why I'm doubtful about this story.I'd have thought all the effort just to move very slowly and the danger of drying out would make the whole idea just not very likely.I know land snails manage ok but they don't actually live all their lives in water.In fact they would drown in too deep a level of water.

However I'm not impugning the intelligence of octopi.I'm sure they have the level of intelligence suggested by the story-I just can't see a water dependent creature managing to do all that the story suggested.

No,the more I consider it the more unlikely it seems to me.

Incog. :)

Xaccers
09-01-2004, 21:16
This is why I'm doubtful about this story.I'd have thought all the effort just to move very slowly and the danger of drying out would make the whole idea just not very likely.I know land snails manage ok but they don't actually live all their lives in water.In fact they would drown in too deep a level of water.

However I'm not impugning the intelligence of octopi.I'm sure they have the level of intelligence suggested by the story-I just can't see a water dependent creature managing to do all that the story suggested.

No,the more I consider it the more unlikely it seems to me.

Incog. :)

They can move whilst out of water, quite slowly, but I have seen it in Saudi on the rocks

Maggy
09-01-2004, 21:20
They can move whilst out of water, quite slowly, but I have seen it in Saudi on the rocks

How slowly?Or should I say fast enough to get from one tank to another without dying?

Ramrod
09-01-2004, 21:24
I still don't believe it.I won't UNTIL I've actually seen the documentary either.;)

Incog. :)
My words not good enough :cry:


:D

Xaccers
09-01-2004, 21:26
They have skin, so aren't like slugs etc
They wouldn't "dry out" that quickly (hehehe alcoholic octopus)

They're pretty much muscle, so very strong. Strong enough to reach out and pull themselves along by contracting.

Maggy
09-01-2004, 21:27
Did YOU see the documentary then?Or did you hear about it? :)

Incog. :wavey:

Sociable
09-01-2004, 21:39
Simple answer is that most marine creatures can survive out of water for relatively long periods of time as the way they "breathe" and metabolize oxygen is far different than land based creatures. Eels being a very good example as they will often survive long journeys overland when seeking new areas to migrate too.

homealone
09-01-2004, 21:41
Simple answer is that most marine creatures can survive out of water for relatively long periods of time as the way they "breathe" and metabolize oxygen is far different than land based creatures. Eels being a very good example as they will often survive long journeys overland when seeking new areas to migrate too.

what elver next :D

Sociable
09-01-2004, 21:45
what elver next :D

Just to get the thread back on topic the only reason they make it is they make sure to eat four leaf clover for lunch on the journey of course. ;)

EDIT: For the sceptical check this out:

http://www.streamscapes.org/site/streamscape/river/eel/eel.html

homealone
09-01-2004, 21:53
Just to get the thread back on topic the only reason they make it is they make sure to eat four leaf clover for lunch on the journey of course. ;)

Used to have a patch of the four leafed ones in the back garden of my childhood home.


- you could have done them a 'pack up';)

Maggy
09-01-2004, 21:56
Just to get the thread back on topic the only reason they make it is they make sure to eat four leaf clover for lunch on the journey of course. ;)

EDIT: For the sceptical check this out:

http://www.streamscapes.org/site/streamscape/river/eel/eel.html

Yes but that link points out that the elver can only manage when the ground is very wet.

Incog.

Maggy
09-01-2004, 21:58
Sorry I guess I'm just doubting Incog today. :rofl:

:wavey:

Ramrod
09-01-2004, 21:59
Did YOU see the documentary then?Or did you hear about it? :)

Incog. :wavey:
I saw it....with my own two eyes....I wasn't drunk.....or stoned :D

Sociable
09-01-2004, 22:00
- you could have done them a 'pack up';)

LOL Well I was known to feed them worms from time to time when I was a lad and loved to go fishing.

Was then I learned just how long eels can survive out of water and even being kept in a fridge for a few days too as my horrified mother was able to confirm when they squirmed out of the paper bag they were in. LOL

homealone
09-01-2004, 22:10
LOL Well I was known to feed them worms from time to time when I was a lad and loved to go fishing.

Was then I learned just how long eels can survive out of water and even being kept in a fridge for a few days too as my horrified mother was able to confirm when they squirmed out of the paper bag they were in. LOL

:rofl: - your poor mum:) - I know you didn't do it deliberately;)

Bex
10-01-2004, 15:30
i found a four leaf clover once......didn't bring me "luck"

luftys
10-01-2004, 15:50
i found a four leaf clover once......didn't bring me "luck"
Not found a 4 leaf clover :cry: but have a rabbits foot that is Lucky :rofl:

Xaccers
10-01-2004, 15:52
Not found a 4 leaf clover :cry: but have a rabbits foot that is Lucky :rofl:

Not for the rabbit!

Bex
10-01-2004, 15:55
Not for the rabbit!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

that was funny xac

luftys
10-01-2004, 15:55
Not for the rabbit!
He is ok just smells a bit that all :D

peachey
10-01-2004, 15:57
Not for the rabbit!

had a feeling that was coming

Ramrod
10-01-2004, 16:05
Not found a 4 leaf clover :cry: but have a rabbits foot that is Lucky :rofl:....not for the rabbit...... :D

luftys
10-01-2004, 16:12
....not for the rabbit...... :D
:idea: Cut the foot off of the rotten carcass :D but what am I going to do with out Maggots for fishing :disturbd:

Atomic22
10-01-2004, 18:31
They can move whilst out of water, quite slowly, but I have seen it in Saudi on the rocks
i have never drunk "saudi on the rocks" before....
but after a few "vodka on the rocks" i have been able to see octupusses , martians , giant squids and many more creatures.......
i have seen these creatures in many places some in water and some not......
as i recall some of them are edible and they sell the most gruesome tasting ones at our local chippy , for some reason calling them by their greek name of "donner-kebab".......eating these will also make you see the "giant squits" spoke of earlier.......
:sick::sick::sick:

Xaccers
10-01-2004, 18:33
i have never drunk "saudi on the rocks" before....


:rofl: