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Nemesis
13-11-2003, 13:42
After a recent conversation about Men & Women ... it would appear that Men are no longer required ... for anything.

Women have succeeded in burning their bras, voting, and in todays' world meet Men head on in nearly every aspect of life.

So I ask the question ....

Are Men needed any more ?

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 13:46
After a recent conversation about Men & Women ... it would appear that Men are no longer required ... for anything.

Women have succeeded in burning their bras, voting, and in todays' world meet Men head on in nearly every ascpect of life.

So I ask the question ....

Are Men needed any more ?There would be less wars without us.....:mis:

Bex
13-11-2003, 13:47
After a recent conversation about Men & Women ... it would appear that Men are no longer required ... for anything.

Women have succeeded in burning their bras, voting, and in todays' world meet Men head on in nearly every ascpect of life.

So I ask the question ....

Are Men needed any more ?
they have their uses :naughty:......but seriously......

i think men are needed...for example, i think men need to be there to guide and lead a household (old fashioned view i know) and i think kids need a stable man in their life as a role model and as a person they can respect....

women may not need them as much in a financial way, because we are now getting degrees and successful jobs, however we still come across the glass ceiling effect.....

will have a further think about this question tho :erm:

but the saying "can't live with them, cant live without them" springs to mind

Bex
13-11-2003, 13:49
There would be less wars without us.....:mis:

but would there??? think about a society where there are no men (or maybe they are kept in reproduction farms or something) {i know a bit sci fi here but who cares} don't you think that the hierarchy amongst the women would develop....therefore there are going to be women who take on the role that men would have in a normal society....and therefore these women would start wars......

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 13:50
they have their uses :naughty:......but seriously......

i think men are needed...for example, i think men need to be there to guide and lead a household (old fashioned view i know) and i think kids need a stable man in their life as a role model and as a person they can respect....

women may not need them as much in a financial way, because we are now getting degrees and successful jobs, however we still come across the glass ceiling effect.....

will have a further think about this question tho :erm:

but the saying "can't live with them, cant live without them" springs to mind
Point taken, but there are women around now who will be both Father and Mother to their children and will defend their right to do it their way.

Is there a balance that needs to be sought ? Is the old Victorian view out-dated.

Why do Men need to guide ... can't the Women do that ??

:erm: /* Why am I defending the Female view

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 13:53
but would there??? think about a society where there are no men (or maybe they are kept in reproduction farms or something) {i know a bit sci fi here but who cares} don't you think that the hierarchy amongst the women would develop....therefore there are going to be women who take on the role that men would have in a normal society....and therefore these women would start wars......mmmm.....possibly, but ther rest of the women probably wouldn't go along with it....less testosterone you see....:)

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 13:57
Who would open all the jars?
Who would parellel park the cars?

downquark1
13-11-2003, 13:57
In my experience women argue more than men, I think war would still exist, less or more is debatable.

Since most the engineering profession are men the future would likely see no more innovations but more expensive clothes ;)

Bex
13-11-2003, 13:59
mmmm.....possibly, but ther rest of the women probably wouldn't go along with it....less testosterone you see....:)

hmmm im not convinced........are u saying that women are more pacifists than men? convince me plz...


Point taken, but there are women around now who will be both Father and Mother to their children and will defend their right to do it their way.

Is there a balance that needs to be sought ? Is the old Victorian view out-dated.

Why do Men need to guide ... can't the Women do that ??

/* Why am I defending the Female view

but regardless, i think that kids need to have a stable male role model, whether the parents are together or not, whether the male role model is a uncle or simply a friend of the mothers....they need to have male guidance.....

why do men need to guide? i guess i am fairly christian in my views there, the man is the head of the household and the women should submit to him......not submition is not a case of blindly following the guy but it is the case that he possibly has the final say.......

and ur defending the womens view because u are playing devils advocate :p

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:01
In my experience women argue more than men, I think war would still exist, less or more is debatable.

Since most the engineering profession are men the future would likely see no more innovations but more expensive clothes ;)

:eeek: i do hope your joking, that was an extremely male culvanist comment to make :mad:

Russ
13-11-2003, 14:02
Are Men needed any more ?

Put a nice big hairy spider in the bath and then ask a woman that question :D

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:04
Put a nice big hairy spider in the bath and then ask a woman that question :D

:rofl: i know some male who once made me get rid of a spider, even though i am petrified of them, wimp :p

xaccers parrell park comment :nono:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:04
<snip>
why do men need to guide? i guess i am fairly christian in my views there, the man is the head of the household and the women should submit to him......not submition is not a case of blindly following the guy but it is the case that he possibly has the final say.......
I disagree, and I think a lot of Women would too ... Women can be Leaders (Maggie Thatcher) and be strong and forthright in their views and opinions ... who says the Man has to have the last say ????


and ur defending the womens view because u are playing devils advocate :p
No just a Devil :D

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:06
I disagree, and I think a lot of Women would too ... Women can be Leaders (Maggie Thatcher) and be strong and forthright in their views and opinions ... who says the Man has to have the last say ????

No just a Devil :D

they can disagree with me all the way, but this is the way i have been socialised.......i can't help it

u said it babes ;):p

nemmy i beat you to 1.000

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:08
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See, Women can beat the Men ... LOL ... Well Done :D

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 14:10
hmmm im not convinced........are u saying that women are more pacifists than men? convince me plz...




Purely because women have a lot less testosterone, they are less physically agressive than men.:shrug:

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:14
Purely because women have a lot less testosterone, they are less physically agressive than men.:shrug:
have u ever experienced a women with pmt? :p

but could it be that actually women are normally less violent because of socialisation? if little boys fight parents say "boys will be boys" if little girls fight we get told "now is that the sort of behaviour one should see from a little girl"

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:14
Purely because women have a lot less testosterone, they are less physically agressive than men.:shrug:

But what about Jobs ... is there any jobs that a Woman couldn't do ??

They may be less agressive, but is that not a good thing, differences of opinion could be sorted out without physical violence ...

However, there is the ingrained bitchiness of women ...

Russ
13-11-2003, 14:15
In all seriousness, women need men and men need women.

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:15
have u ever experienced a women with pmt? :p

but could it be that actually women are normally less violent because of socialisation? if little boys fight parents say "boys will be boys" if little girls fight we get told "now is that the sort of behaviour one should see from a little girl"
But doesn't this go back to the Victorian ideals ... they are surely outdated now ... Women fight now, and Men are slammed for it, as disgusting behaviour ??

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:16
But what about Jobs ... is there any jobs that a Woman couldn't do ??

They may be less agressive, but is that not a good thing, differences of opinion could be sorted out without physical violence ...

However, there is the ingrained bitchiness of women ...

ramrod's orignail point was without men there would be less war, i questioned it and that was his reply....

trebor
13-11-2003, 14:16
Who would open all the jars?
Who would parellel park the cars?


who would cut the grass ?
who would fit a new electrical plug ?
who would change the light bulbs ?
who would paint the house ?

Perhaps the question should have been are women needed ?

having said that I wouldn't be without one ;)

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:16
In all seriousness, women need men and menneed women.
Explain ... why and how ??

Shaun
13-11-2003, 14:17
Personally I do wonder if women are needed but I guess I'm biased! :LOL:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:17
who would cut the grass ?
who would fit a new electrical plug ?
who would change the light bulbs ?
who would paint the house ?
Women .....


Perhaps the question should have been are women needed ?

having said that I wouldn't be without one ;)
Ahh, but they don't need you for that either ... LOL

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:18
In all seriousness, women need men and men need women.

care to elaborate and give reasons?


who would cut the grass ?
who would fit a new electrical plug ?
who would change the light bulbs ?
who would paint the house ?

Perhaps the question should have been are women needed ?

having said that I wouldn't be without one

umm i can do all those things..........

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:19
Personally I do wonder if women are needed but I guess I'm biased! :LOL:

oiiiii.... :Peace:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:22
Seriously though, is there anything that Men do, that Women can't ??

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:24
Seriously though, is there anything that Men do, that Women can't ??

produce sperm :p;)

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:27
produce sperm :p;)
Point taken ... but this leads back to your sci-fi reproduction farm theory. Men are only actually required for one thing ... to aid with reproduction.

Is that it ... are Women now that liberated that they now stand on a wholly equal footing with Men ??

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:32
Point taken ... but this leads back to your sci-fi reproduction farm theory. Men are only actually required for one thing ... to aid with reproduction.

Is that it ... are Women now that liberated that they now stand on a wholly equal footing with Men ??
for socialising of children i think men are essential......

i may be a strong, independent women, but i like having a man in my life, i like being guided by him, and i like being able to rely on a men.......there is something special about having the support of a man..rather than just support of female friends (which is also important)

maybe i don't "need" a man in my life the way women used to but it is nice to have them there........and one day when i have kids i will NEED a man in my life.

Russ
13-11-2003, 14:35
Men need women and vice versa because whether you believe in God, Mother nature or whatever, we were designed to be together. All this "Independant woman" rubbish is a waste of time and men keeping women down is equally stupid - we need each other.

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:37
Men need women and vice versa because whether you believe in God, Mother nature or whatever, we were designed to be together. All this "Independant woman" rubbish is a waste of time and men keeping women down is equally stupid - we need each other.

i'm not disagreeing with you, i just wondered why u thought so

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:38
for socialising of children i think men are essential......

i may be a strong, independent women, but i like having a man in my life, i like being guided by him, and i like being able to rely on a men.......there is something special about having the support of a man..rather than just support of female friends (which is also important)OK, so is it equality, rather than having one or the other .... I know some women who would disagree ... heartily :D

There is always the fight over who is the better sex, is there a better one ??

I can understand the relying on a partner, but disagree that the Man should always have the last word. Surely any relationship is a partnership, equal all the way ??

maybe i don't "need" a man in my life the way women used to but it is nice to have them there........and one day when i have kids i will NEED a man in my life.Why NEED ??

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 14:40
xaccers parrell park comment :nono:

Women are medically different to men and not as good when it comes to spacial awarness tasks such as parking.

Men are medically different to women in that we don't have a single specialised area for language so it's harder for us to communicate and be empathic, we don't have as good peripheral vision so it's easier for women to spot us oggling other women, women can find mates easier than men can.

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:40
Men need women and vice versa because whether you believe in God, Mother nature or whatever, we were designed to be together. All this "Independant woman" rubbish is a waste of time and men keeping women down is equally stupid - we need each other.Thank you ... my point is should there be a conflict within the sexes. Are we not all equal.

What happened previously, Victorian times etc, to my mind was entirely wrong. I don't believe Men should dominate Women.

There are some that will disagree.

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 14:41
There is always the fight over who is the better sex, is there a better one ??


Nope, neither is better, both are just different

basa
13-11-2003, 14:47
... Women can be Leaders (Maggie Thatcher) and be strong and forthright in their views and opinions ...

And didn't she go to war with Argentina !!!!! :rolleyes:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:47
Nope, neither is better, both are just different
Different good or different bad ?

Bex
13-11-2003, 14:50
OK, so is it equality, rather than having one or the other .... I know some women who would disagree ... heartily :D

There is always the fight over who is the better sex, is there a better one ??

I can understand the relying on a partner, but disagree that the Man should always have the last word. Surely any relationship is a partnership, equal all the way ??

Why NEED ??

equality is good yes.......there is no better sex, when all is said and done we are all human, like there is no better race/skin colour.....

yes equality in a relationship, but as i said before biblically it states that a women should submit to her husband.....

need when i have kids because......i am of the view that for at least the first five years the women should be at home with the kiddies, thus would need to guy to earn money........reminds me of a convo with ur wfie on saturday :p

Women are medically different to men and not as good when it comes to spacial awarness tasks such as parking.

Men are medically different to women in that we don't have a single specialised area for language so it's harder for us to communicate and be empathic, we don't have as good peripheral vision so it's easier for women to spot us oggling other women, women can find mates easier than men can.

good point, and i think it is these difference that make us more interesting to each other

basa
13-11-2003, 14:51
Women are medically different to men and not as good when it comes to spacial awarness tasks such as parking.

Men are medically different to women in that we don't have a single specialised area for language so it's harder for us to communicate and be empathic, we don't have as good peripheral vision so it's easier for women to spot us oggling other women, women can find mates easier than men can.

Women are also far better at multi tasking...e.g. driving and talking. (No that is not meant to be belittling to women...I can't drive and talk to my partner with out nearly hitting the car in front !! - Well perhaps not that bad but I hope you know what I mean)

And men ramble on forums too much to ! :blah:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:53
<snip> reminds me of a convo with ur wfie on saturday :p

I must have missed that then :eek:

downquark1
13-11-2003, 14:55
:eeek: i do hope your joking, that was an extremely male culvanist comment to make :mad:There are more male engineers - the clothes thing was a joke

It's no more than anyother 'male culvanist' comment made here, why does everyone pick on me :mis:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 14:58
There are more male engineers - the clothes thing was a joke

It's no more than anyother 'male culvanist' comment made here, why does everyone pick on me :mis:
Don't worry downquark1, I'm sure she didn't mean it, I mean Bexy lets the Man have the last word :D

Bex
13-11-2003, 15:01
There are more male engineers - the clothes thing was a joke

It's no more than anyother 'male culvanist' comment made here, why does everyone pick on me :mis:

:sorry: wasn't meaning to pick on you really..and was half joking anyway :kiss:
sorry if i offended u :mis:

Women are also far better at multi tasking...e.g. driving and talking. (No that is not meant to be belittling to women...I can't drive and talk to my partner with out nearly hitting the car in front !! - Well perhaps not that bad but I hope you know what I mean)

And men ramble on forums too much to !

yes i can do two things at once, and do a good job at both ;)...its because women and men use different parts of the brain

men ramble on forums too much :rofl: am i an honoury male then? ;):p

I must have missed that then
you remember, we were saying men are only good to provide fianancies

Bex
13-11-2003, 15:03
Don't worry downquark1, I'm sure she didn't mean it, I mean Bexy lets the Man have the last word :D

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behave young man...will tell julie :p

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 15:15
<snip>
need when i have kids because......i am of the view that for at least the first five years the women should be at home with the kiddies, thus would need to guy to earn money
... :erm: so why can't the Man stay at home, and the Woman work ???

what are you trying to say Bex ??? Can't Men look after the children at that age ??

Bex
13-11-2003, 15:18
... :erm: so why can't the Man stay at home, and the Woman work ???

what are you trying to say Bex ??? Can't Men look after the children at that age ??

oh im sure they can, i am not disputing that, but me personally, i want to stay home with my kids, i want to have that special bond with them....it's only fair that we get some time off work to bring the kids up, after nine months of having them grow inside of us, the morning sickness, putting on weight, the weird food cravings, and then labour :eek: :p ;)

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 15:21
oh im sure they can, i am not disputing that, but me personally, i want to stay home with my kids, i want to have that special bond with them....it's only fair that we get some time off work to bring the kids up, after nine months of having them grow inside of us, the morning sickness, putting on weight, the weird food cravings, and then labour :eek: :p ;)
... and what if your other half wants to too ??? What then, you'll bring up the 'I've been carrying it" argument ?? Unfair...

Bex
13-11-2003, 15:27
... and what if your other half wants to too ??? What then, you'll bring up the 'I've been carrying it" argument ?? Unfair...

too right, you lot get to ummmmmmmmm cant say it on a forum, and then we have the discomfort of carrying the bubby :p;)
nope, the dad can have them at weekends, so i can go out and parteeeee


(to all those who think nemmy and i are being serious...we arent really :p)

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 15:33
You know, women going out to work is probably a major reason for house prices being so high.

With two incomes people can afford more, and so house owners charge more

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 15:36
You know, women going out to work is probably a major reason for house prices being so high.

With two incomes people can afford more, and so house owners charge more
So let me get this right .... it's Womens fault that the house prices are as high as they are, because they have liberated themselves and established themselves in the workplace.

Bex
13-11-2003, 15:37
You know, women going out to work is probably a major reason for house prices being so high.

With two incomes people can afford more, and so house owners charge more

interesting...so you blaming women for working :erm: :cry:

you also need to remember women are generally getting married later, so they do have to work for longer.....or are women getting married later, because they are concentrating on their careers more :erm:

basa
13-11-2003, 16:03
you also need to remember women are generally getting married later, so they do have to work for longer.....or are women getting married later, because they are concentrating on their careers more :erm:

Would be nice if us men could have that choice !!??

(I'll get me coat ! :walk: )

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 16:06
Would be nice if us men could have that choice !!??

(I'll get me coat ! :walk: )
Put yer coat away ... this is the type of comment I'm after .... tell us more, tell us how you feel ..

Bex
13-11-2003, 16:11
Would be nice if us men could have that choice !!??

(I'll get me coat ! :walk: )

have a choice about what?

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 16:11
have u ever experienced a women with pmt? :p

but could it be that actually women are normally less violent because of socialisation? if little boys fight parents say "boys will be boys" if little girls fight we get told "now is that the sort of behaviour one should see from a little girl"Hmmmm.It's all wrapped up together, girls fight less because of less testosterone therefore girls are precieved as being less aggressive so when girls do fight they are told 'thats no way for a girl to act'.....etc..

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 16:13
Seriously though, is there anything that Men do, that Women can't ??P*ss up a wall?:D

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 16:14
Women are medically different to men and not as good when it comes to spacial awarness tasks such as parking.

Men are medically different to women in that we don't have a single specialised area for language so it's harder for us to communicate and be empathic, we don't have as good peripheral vision so it's easier for women to spot us oggling other women, women can find mates easier than men can.I thought mens peripheral vision would be better than womens......

Mick
13-11-2003, 16:17
Men need women and vice versa because whether you believe in God, Mother nature or whatever, we were designed to be together. All this "Independant woman" rubbish is a waste of time and men keeping women down is equally stupid - we need each other.

Agreed. - Gone are those days when men use to tie their wife to the kitchen sink/Cooker (Horrible term to use I know), I think its good that women can do whatever they want these days. I believe in equal opportunities at work, I think this has now been applied into relationships. ;)

Bex
13-11-2003, 16:17
Hmmmm.It's all wrapped up together, girls fight less because of less testosterone therefore girls are precieved as being less aggressive so when girls do fight they are told 'thats no way for a girl to act'.....etc..

good point....its the nature vrs nurture question

trying to increase our post count, by post three posts :P

basa
13-11-2003, 16:17
Put yer coat away ... this is the type of comment I'm after .... tell us more, tell us how you feel ..

OK then.....

Situation..married, two pre-teen daughters. Partner currently not working, so she does all (most) of the housework..washing, cleaning, cooking, sort of thing.

I do home repairs, car repairs, gardening, occasional shopping.

I don't get much 'hands on' with the kids as I'm gone before they get up and partner organises most stuff for them.

On days off and weekends I try to do stuff she would do but generally pretty hopeless at it through lack of experience of the routines ! Get bollocking off partner making me feel not much more than a meal ticket at times !!

Also having wife and two daughters I am the only male influence on the household, which is difficult.

Dunno why I'm telling all this :spin: or what I'm trying to say, but, that's it ! :dozey:

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 16:22
OK then.....

Situation..married, two pre-teen daughters. Partner currently not working, so she does all (most) of the housework..washing, cleaning, cooking, sort of thing.

I do home repairs, car repairs, gardening, occasional shopping.

I don't get much 'hands on' with the kids as I'm gone before they get up and partner organises most stuff for them.

On days off and weekends I try to do stuff she would do but generally pretty hopeless at it through lack of experience of the routines ! Get bollocking off partner making me feel not much more than a meal ticket at times !!

Also having wife and two daughters I am the only male influence on the household, which is difficult.

Dunno why I'm telling all this :spin: or what I'm trying to say, but, that's it ! :dozey:
You're telling us cos you can, and you know we'll listen. Try organising something new ... Day out ... visit something ... somewhere ... but plan it in advance then you won't upset any plans

Salu
13-11-2003, 16:38
I wonder what is the gay viewpoint on this arguement? They may prefer the same sex but do they need the other sex? They certainly do in order to procreate...the men need the women anyway.

I think the bottom line is that if men were not needed then they wouldn't be men.

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 16:45
Agreed. - Gone are those days when men use to tie their wife to the kitchen sink/Cooker (Horrible term to use I know), ;)reminds me of a joke.....Q:whats wrong if your wife comes out of the kitchen to have a go at you?
A:You made the chain too long!:D




I know, I know.....:knock:

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 16:49
So let me get this right .... it's Womens fault that the house prices are as high as they are, because they have liberated themselves and established themselves in the workplace.

Did I say I was complaining?
With both partners providing for the family, they can afford more, and as more people get more money, prices go up, fact of life.
Now if women took over and us blokes stayed at home....didn't the 2 ronnies do something about that?

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 16:56
I thought mens peripheral vision would be better than womens......

No, women needed good peripheral vision to spot danger aproaching.
Men needed good tunnel vision for hunting. Men spot moving things easier than stationary, hence why we can never find our keys!

downquark1
13-11-2003, 16:58
If men aren't needed anymore why are women still needed, surely a machine can be developed eventually to carry chidren. Why are we the first choice when we dicuss removing a sex?

Maggy
13-11-2003, 17:00
I misread the title as men are hot air balloons.:shocked:

shouldn't have peeled and chopped those onions-it affected my eyesight. :spin:

i think by now everyone knows that i want us to treat each other as people and not as genders so really i see little point in us starting threads that just widen the gender stereotyping.

incog. :nono:

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 17:04
No, women needed good peripheral vision to spot danger aproaching.
Men needed good tunnel vision for hunting. Men spot moving things easier than stationary, hence why we can never find our keys!But peripheral vision primarily responds to quick movement.:confused:

Ramrod
13-11-2003, 17:05
want us to treat each other as people and not as genders so really i see little point in us starting threads that just widen the gender stereotyping.

incog. :nono:I think that the direction that this thread is taking is a good/group hug type of direction:)

Bex
13-11-2003, 17:11
I think that the direction that this thread is taking is a good/group hug type of direction:)
indeed,,nemmy didnt start the thread as a women vs men thing, it stemmed from a converstation we were having on messanger.......


Agreed. - Gone are those days when men use to tie their wife to the kitchen sink/Cooker (Horrible term to use I know), I think its good that women can do whatever they want these days. I believe in equal opportunities at work, I think this has now been applied into relationships.

good :D

reminds me of a joke.....Q:whats wrong if your wife comes out of the kitchen to have a go at you?
A:You made the chain too long!
ramrod :nono:

Maggy
13-11-2003, 17:19
i wasn't having a go at nemesis.i was just wondering why we keep going back to the same subject.

incog. :sulk:

Xaccers
13-11-2003, 17:42
But peripheral vision primarily responds to quick movement.:confused:

Exactly.
Think of men as having basic peripheral vision, if we ain't looking straight at it, it's blury, but if something moves we focus on it.
Women on the other hand have a much better version of peripheral vision, there's isn't so blurry, so if something is just off to the side, they can still see it clearly, so if they can keep an eye on more things at once (and they can eye up a cute bum without having to look straight at it!)

idi banashapan
13-11-2003, 18:15
Who would open all the jars?
Who would parellel park the cars?

and in my experience, who would:

catch the spiders, mow the lawn, programme the VCR, tune in the tele, work the DVD, fix the PC, change the ceiling light bulbs without a chair, show the missus how to work her mobile phone, discard the instruction manuals, clear the garage out.... and so on!

Bex
13-11-2003, 18:45
and in my experience, who would:

catch the spiders, mow the lawn, programme the VCR, tune in the tele, work the DVD, fix the PC, change the ceiling light bulbs without a chair, show the missus how to work her mobile phone, discard the instruction manuals, clear the garage out.... and so on!

ummm i can do all those things (except i use manuals) and im not male, i do not need a man to do those things, would be nice to have a man around the house to do that, but i cope pretty well without one

they can eye up a cute bum without having to look straight at it!)

very true :naughty: not that i would do that when im with my fella of course ;):p

idi banashapan
13-11-2003, 19:02
I did say it was in MY experience. It was not meant as a generalisation! Sorry.

Bex
13-11-2003, 19:11
I did say it was in MY experience. It was not meant as a generalisation! Sorry.

yes i know i read that, i was just saying it isnt the case in all cases :erm:


too many uses of the word 'case' but canne be arsed to re-phrase it sorry

Atomic22
13-11-2003, 19:14
Q:whats wrong if your wife comes out of the kitchen to have a go at you?
A:You made the chain too long!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

ahem

ic14
13-11-2003, 21:12
I havent read through the whole thread yet :spin: but it seems russ has the same view as me.
In all seriousness, women need men and men need women.

Bex
13-11-2003, 22:07
I havent read through the whole thread yet :spin: but it seems russ has the same view as me.

ok i put the same question to you that i did to russ.....why?

Nemesis
13-11-2003, 22:12
I havent read through the whole thread yet :spin: but it seems russ has the same view as me.
The only NEED is for procreation ...

THe point is do Women need Men in any other way, in the same vein, do men need Women in any other way. If so how and why ?

Bex
13-11-2003, 22:15
The only NEED is for procreation ...

THe point is do Women need Men in any other way, in the same vein, do men need Women in any other way. If so how and why ?

without women who are men going to have nag them :blah: :argue: ;) :p

and without men who are women going to nag?

(lighthearted, noone take offence thankoo)

Bex
13-11-2003, 23:49
men are needed cos women need hugs

Xaccers
14-11-2003, 01:27
men are needed cos women need hugs

*really big hugs*

Bex
14-11-2003, 11:58
*really big hugs*

you giving me hugs or teling me men give really big hugs :p

Salu
14-11-2003, 15:47
The only NEED is for procreation ...

I think that is ridicuously simplistic. The vast majority of people in this world are heterosexual. I don't think this is purely for precreational reasons but because we need the complimently characteristics of the other sex. As bexy says "women need hugs"....You could also say that men need the emtional support of women or whatever....

Simply we NEED each other.

I don't know how homosexuals fit into this though. I can't assimilate their thinking. Maybe dellwear can comment? I find it intriguing though how there seems to be a subcatagory of homosexual. The masculine homosexual and a feminine homosexual. (The poofy mincers and the testosterone hirsute explosion types if you like). And of course the ones that appear hetrosexual that completly surprise you....

Marge
14-11-2003, 16:29
Men are like cream cakes, you don't need one but you really want one :naughty:

Ramrod
14-11-2003, 18:12
Men are like cream cakes, you don't need one but you really want one :naughty:Glad to hear it!:D

Bex
14-11-2003, 18:18
Men are like cream cakes, you don't need one but you really want one :naughty:

:rofl: debs

I think that is ridicuously simplistic. The vast majority of people in this world are heterosexual. I don't think this is purely for precreational reasons but because we need the complimently characteristics of the other sex. As bexy says "women need hugs"....You could also say that men need the emtional support of women or whatever....

Simply we NEED each other.

I don't know how homosexuals fit into this though. I can't assimilate their thinking. Maybe dellwear can comment? I find it intriguing though how there seems to be a subcatagory of homosexual. The masculine homosexual and a feminine homosexual. (The poofy mincers and the testosterone hirsute explosion types if you like). And of course the ones that appear hetrosexual that completly surprise you....

nemmy was actually playing devils advocate...he was suggesting a reason to see what others thought...

procreation is obvisouly a basic reason, but you are right, thereis the emotional support (which i think i mentioned before) and also we seem to be programmed to need someone of the other sex in our lives...why i dont know

Chimaera
14-11-2003, 18:34
I dunno bexy - I must choose the wrong ones, never got any emotional support from either of the two men in the 'significant' relationships I've had.
I'm now quite happy to be alone - well with 2 teenage girls in tow - it's much less hassle, I have no worries of being let down or anything like that.
I have learned to be very self sufficient (decorating, gardening etc) and have a good plumber, builder etc to hand.
I even get full custody of the tv remote - what more could I want?? ;)

Bex
14-11-2003, 18:40
I dunno bexy - I must choose the wrong ones, never got any emotional support from either of the two men in the 'significant' relationships I've had.
I'm now quite happy to be alone - well with 2 teenage girls in tow - it's much less hassle, I have no worries of being let down or anything like that.
I have learned to be very self sufficient (decorating, gardening etc) and have a good plumber, builder etc to hand.
I even get full custody of the tv remote - what more could I want?? ;)

yeah i know that feeling, but i am assured by some of my male friends that not all men are like that.............

see you are an independent women, but if i nice guy turned up would u turn him away?

Chimaera
14-11-2003, 18:43
Dunno mate - it's not happened so far! :)
I mean - I meet lots of nice blokes - but just not in that way!
I know not all men are like that - but they are the ones that are already in steady relationships - and that's a :nono: as far as I'm concerned.

Bex
14-11-2003, 19:17
Dunno mate - it's not happened so far! :)
I mean - I meet lots of nice blokes - but just not in that way!
I know not all men are like that - but they are the ones that are already in steady relationships - and that's a :nono: as far as I'm concerned.

yes i agree with you.........but do you think we need men?

Marge
14-11-2003, 19:41
I live on my own and can live quite happily without "needing" a man but have found that life can be a good laugh if you do meet a good one, no reason why men can't be as good friends as girlies can

Chimaera
14-11-2003, 19:56
Yes - I think we need men bexy - just that I seem to be better off without one!! LOL :D

Bex
14-11-2003, 20:51
I live on my own and can live quite happily without "needing" a man but have found that life can be a good laugh if you do meet a good one, no reason why men can't be as good friends as girlies can

yes i have some fantastic male friends.....but sometimes we do need men :naughty:


Yes - I think we need men bexy - just that I seem to be better off without one!! LOL
yes, well we are better off without the lies, deceit and other bad things that come along with some men

Stuart
15-11-2003, 17:41
As a man, I am probably not the best person to answer this, but I'd like to think we are needed!

Bex
15-11-2003, 17:44
As a man, I am probably not the best person to answer this, but I'd like to think we are needed!

but why huni?