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pip08456
12-04-2019, 18:33
First teaser for Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker.
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Lando, Death Star wreckage and Emperor all in one trailer. Going to be a fan service extravaganza. The rise of Ben Skywalker. He wouldn't want to take his dad's name after murdering him I guess
denphone
13-04-2019, 09:53
Personally l cannot wait.:hyper::hyper::hyper:
General Maximus
13-04-2019, 18:19
I have mixed feelings after The Last Jedi. If they want us to believe that Rey is now a fully fledged Jedi they need to indicate a time jump and a change in maturity like they did with Luke in Return of the Jedi.
I have mixed feelings after The Last Jedi. If they want us to believe that Rey is now a fully fledged Jedi they need to indicate a time jump and a change in maturity like they did with Luke in Return of the Jedi.
Pretty sure they will do so. It was fairly obvious from the closing narration in The Last Jedi that they were planning to skip ahead a while. I’m sure they know what they need to do to make it believable.
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Also, if they include a scene where Lando gets his cape closet back I’ll die happy. :D
I have mixed feelings after The Last Jedi. If they want us to believe that Rey is now a fully fledged Jedi they need to indicate a time jump and a change in maturity like they did with Luke in Return of the Jedi.
I did see some of the panel and there is indeed a time jump. Looking at the haircut on Finn and the new look for Poe its been a few years, possibly more.
I did enjoy TLJ, wouldn't have said its the worst of the Saga by any means.
pip08456
06-10-2019, 22:32
What would have happened if the Beatles loved Star Wars?
Sargent Peppers meets Star Wars. There's 13 tracks altogether.
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pip08456
11-10-2019, 20:14
Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker official trailer will be dropping sometime Monday.
denphone
13-10-2019, 13:13
Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker official trailer will be dropping sometime Monday.
l am looking forward to that although l wonder how much they will give away in the trailer.
General Maximus
13-10-2019, 13:22
I remain ambivalent
denphone
13-10-2019, 13:35
I remain ambivalent
l never expected anything less.:D
final trailer and tickets go on sale Monday night USA/Tuesday morning UK
General Maximus
19-10-2019, 19:06
we'll see how long the Odeon site goes down for this year. I think I was trying for 3 hours last year before I was able to get my ticket and what a disappointment it all turned out to be :p
really? I remember getting them no problem about 30 mins before they were meant to go on sale, i gave it a go as that worked previous year :), i think before that it was a nightmare
cineworld doing triple bill, so I guess other cinemas will?
https://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/2d-star-wars-the-triple-bill-episodes-7-9/ho00007089
denphone
21-10-2019, 17:11
cineworld doing triple bill, so I guess other cinemas will?
https://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/2d-star-wars-the-triple-bill-episodes-7-9/ho00007089
They have just these last few days opened a Cineworld in our city for the first time.
General Maximus
21-10-2019, 18:46
really? I remember getting them no problem about 30 mins before they were meant to go on sale, i gave it a go as that worked previous year :), i think before that it was a nightmare
the previous year I think they went up at midnight and I had half an hour of refreshes and mucking about. Last year was horrendous. I think they went up at 14:00 and I didn't get mine till 18:00. The website was down, the phone lines were down, the whole world had come to an end.
cineworld doing triple bill, so I guess other cinemas will?]
that's a good idea, I didn't think of that. Triple bills are very rare these days so I'll go just for the theatre. I'll take a pillow with me so I can sleep through TLJ :)
The tickets are defo going up tomorrow at Odeon but there is no mention of a triple bill yet.
we'll see how long the Odeon site goes down for this year. I think I was trying for 3 hours last year before I was able to get my ticket and what a disappointment it all turned out to be :p
Dont go, then you wont be disappointed :D
(which does seem to happen to you a lot ;)).
The tickets are defo going up tomorrow at Odeon but there is no mention of a triple bill yet.
there is on facebook https://www.facebook.com/ODEON/
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9:00 last jedi
00:01 rise of skywalker
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odeon tickets are on sale - no probs :)
denphone
22-10-2019, 09:29
Dont go, then you wont be disappointed :D
(which does seem to happen to you a lot ;)).
Its amazing how he has become such a harsh critic.:D
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there is on facebook https://www.facebook.com/ODEON/
6:00 force awakens
9:00 last jedi
00:01 rise of skywalker
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Thanks as l have just seen it.:D
General Maximus
22-10-2019, 23:03
odeon tickets are on sale - no probs :)
got it thanks
Its amazing how he has become such a harsh critic.:D
this year has been the worst year in a very long time for both movie and tv series so I think my criticism is well deserved :) I have been working my way through Smallville this year during my lunch breaks and over the last couple of weeks I have been Spartacus in the evenings instead of the returning series which have just started up again. There used to be so much good stuff around and these days it is very much a case of quantity over quality. Game of Thrones has gone now so in terms of actual properly good current series there is only Greys Anatomy and The Expanse and soon to be Star Trek Picard. I miss the good old days when in the same week you would have Alias, Friends, SG1, Smallville, Buffy, Star Trek and many other excellent series.
this year has been the worst year in a very long time for both movie and tv series so I think my criticism is well deserved :)
Not really, thats just your opinion.
I have no problem with the movies and TV series this year. :)
got it thanks
this year has been the worst year in a very long time for both movie and tv series so I think my criticism is well deserved :) I have been working my way through Smallville this year during my lunch breaks and over the last couple of weeks I have been Spartacus in the evenings instead of the returning series which have just started up again. There used to be so much good stuff around and these days it is very much a case of quantity over quality. Game of Thrones has gone now so in terms of actual properly good current series there is only Greys Anatomy and The Expanse and soon to be Star Trek Picard. I miss the good old days when in the same week you would have Alias, Friends, SG1, Smallville, Buffy, Star Trek and many other excellent series.Well, at the moment we have, or had, Watchmen, Young Sheldon, The Rookie, Batwoman, The Good Place, Jack Ryan, Too Old To Die Young, The Goldbergs, Black-ish, Billions, Ballers, What We Do In The Shadows, Motherland, World On Fire, Defending The Guilty, Line of Duty (series 5), Chernobyl, Years and Years, Good Omens, Killing Eve (season 2), Catch 22, Stranger Things, Fleabag, Derry Girls - and that's just off the top of my head...
General Maximus
23-10-2019, 11:12
I'll give you Stranger Things and Chernobyl, absolutely superb and I should have mentioned them.
denphone
24-10-2019, 21:16
Not really, thats just your opinion.
I have no problem with the movies and TV series this year. :)
Same here.:)
pip08456
23-11-2019, 17:25
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denphone
23-11-2019, 19:23
Not long now as they say..:hyper::hyper:
pip08456
25-11-2019, 16:13
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Oh god, that clip was dreadful.
pip08456
25-11-2019, 16:50
Oh god, that clip was dreadful.
Don't shoot the messenger!:D
General Maximus
25-11-2019, 18:44
Oh god, that clip was dreadful.
This is what winds me up about the new sequels and continuations they are doing of old films and series. It is very much a check box exercise or more explicit action scenes and stupid pointless attempts at humour at scheduled intervals. It is completely unnecessary and would be more effective if it was only once or twice in a film at the right moments where it fit and felt more genuine.
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denphone
26-11-2019, 11:01
Personally l don't see anything wrong with it..
Oh god, that clip was dreadful.
Why ?
we may have missed opportunity to read script in advance
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1199689409446039552
General Maximus
10-12-2019, 19:01
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spoilers, duh
Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker - 50 Easter Eggs And References You Might Have Missed
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-50-easter-eggs-and/2900-3312/
So should we start a spoiler filled discussion of the film? What we liked and what we didn't?
General Maximus
26-12-2019, 22:26
I am happy to do it and i'll wrap everything in spoiler tags because i narrow my likes and dislikes down to a few specific instances.
I thought the film was a bit of a mess. The plot was all over the place and it all seemed a bit tacked on, the Emperor being back made little sense and they didn't bother to explain it much. That said it was hard to see where they could go.
Retconing Rey to one against be related to someone also seemed to mess with one of the best part of Last Jedi, that she wasn't 'someone' and had to find her own place in this story. Nope, Palpatine's Granddaughter. I knew they would do something like that because of the anger from fans that she wasn't part of a family line.
Just back from the cinema.
Wow. Just wow. Absolutely loved it from beginning to end.
And no, there’s nothing wrong with the way Rey’s family story was filled in and resolved. It was done in much the same way with Luke Skywalker, across the three original films, and in this case it perfectly fitted one of the key running themes of the sequel trilogy, which is history repeating (but not quite repeating) itself.
The expansion of Jedi/Sith lore was beautifully done, and the absolute end was poignant. I’m truly gutted that the Skywalker saga ends where it does because I so want to know what happens next.
I thought the film was a bit of a mess. The plot was all over the place and it all seemed a bit tacked on, the Emperor being back made little sense and they didn't bother to explain it much. That said it was hard to see where they could go.
Retconing Rey to one against be related to someone also seemed to mess with one of the best part of Last Jedi, that she wasn't 'someone' and had to find her own place in this story. Nope, Palpatine's Granddaughter. I knew they would do something like that because of the anger from fans that she wasn't part of a family line.
I think they had a lot of work to fix some of the story and plot issues that appeared because of The Last Jedi. Those parts of the film took a while to clear up. So sadly less time was left for actually finishing the movie.
I think they had a lot of work to fix some of the story and plot issues that appeared because of The Last Jedi. Those parts of the film took a while to clear up. So sadly less time was left for actually finishing the movie.
There are absolutely no story or plot “issues” in The Last Jedi. It is an excellent film that even improves when re-watched (I just watched episodes 4-8 in preparation for my cinema trip today).
What Episode 8 does is to **** from a great height on a lot of nerdy fan theories. It is a very subversive film and all the better for it, much as the Empire Strikes Back was in its day. It’s hard to remember the shock Episode 5 aroused at the time, devoting as it did 2 hours to watching our heroes getting chased across the galaxy and having their arses handed to them multiple times. Yet it has come to be seen as a rare instance of a sequel that out-does the original.
Then, in The Last Jedi, setting up the idea that the Jedi might have been hoarding something that properly belonged to everyone, and suggesting that Rey might actually be a nobody, were master strokes that broadened and deepened the Star Wars universe and took the story in innovative, interesting new directions.
Whether or not Abrams really has retconned much of The Last Jedi in Rise of Skywalker quite as much as some suggest is questionable. There has been a lot of clever marketing around this new film, not all of it positive, pandering to the idiot fanboys who are still feeling the dark side of the butthurt just because their stupid, elaborate internet theories and their favourite obscure trivia about Grand Admiral Thrawn from some early 1990s spin off novel weren’t taken up and validated in The Last Jedi. They have certainly been allowed to believe that Abrams has “rescued” the franchise, but given the negative fanboy reaction to The Last Jedi they probably had little choice but to market The Rise of Skywalker along those lines. Yet we have to remember that Disney stands behind Star Wars now; it paid a king’s ransom for the franchise and it immediately announced the Skywalker saga was to be completed with another trilogy. It is frankly inconceivable that there was no grand plan for where the story was going from the outset. You just don’t pay $4 billion for something without knowing exactly what you plan to do to safeguard the investment.
What was said about Rey’s parents in The Last Jedi was true - from a certain point of view. And considering that the prequel trilogy established that Palpatane was the one who resurrected the Sith and started decades of turmoil in the galaxy, there is a very pleasing symmetry in his final denouement coming at the end of the final film. There is absolutely zero chance that this had not been discussed prior to the first story meetings for The Rise of Skywalker, and it is likewise vastly unlikely that Rey’s connection to the grand narrative of the saga had never been considered in detail.
I have no major issues with TLJ, however there are some points set up in TFA that were totally shat all over and dismissed totally, that they had to retcon or ignore or gloss over in TROS. Smoke was building up to be this big bad and then just killed off. Same with Phasma.
I really enjoyed TROS and thought it ended the Saga really well. The final scene was especially moving and really well done.
I have no major issues with TLJ, however there are some points set up in TFA that were totally shat all over and dismissed totally, that they had to retcon or ignore or gloss over in TROS. Smoke was building up to be this big bad and then just killed off. Same with Phasma.
I really enjoyed TROS and thought it ended the Saga really well. The final scene was especially moving and really well done.
Yes, I get that some stuff from The Force Awakens ultimately didn’t survive to the end of The Last Jedi. But to suggest these were simply dismissed or dumped on is to completely miss the point The Last Jedi was making. There are plenty of things within The Last Jedi that are set up and pulled down again - it is a deliberate motif, deployed in order to force the viewer out of their comfort zone. We were 8 films in at that point and the hardcore fanboys were behaving like they already knew exactly what was going on.
Luke, and then Yoda, turn Jedi lore on its head by suggesting that the Force might actually be accessible to all and then burning down the temple, but Rey still escapes Luke’s planet with the ancient books, and in The Rise of Skywalker Abrams persists with that line of thought by strongly hinting that Finn is becoming Force-sensitive throughout the film.
Admiral Holdo is presented as an inadequate leader who will ultimately have to be deposed by the hero Poe Dameron, only to be revealed as an astute tactician who is forced to kick the impulsive, short-sighted Dameron out of her way in order to save the last of the resistance fighters.
The first confrontation in The Last Jedi involves an evacuation that looks exactly like the one from the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back, except this time they don’t escape.
The final confrontation, on Crait, is set up to look exactly like Hoth, except the plain is blanketed in salt, not ice (salt destroys ice ;) ) overlying a mineral that looks like blood; not a single First Order AT-AT is taken down and Finn’s heroic attack run is forcibly halted by Rose.
Time and time again, The Last Jedi sets up sci-fi tropes (usually tropes that have previously been employed within the franchise itself) and then knocks them down.
I think as well, people weren't happy with the Rose character in TLJ and then also incensed that she was notably missing for most or Rise. However that was due to her sharing a lot of her screen time with Leia in the base, but of course much of that was scrubbed due to the passing of Carrie Fisher. Abrahams himself confirmed that in a recent interview.
Yes there are a few plot holes remaining and a dw little niggles I had with the full trilogy,but at the end of the day, they are minor things and do not stop me enjoying the 3 films.
I think as well, people weren't happy with the Rose character in TLJ and then also incensed that she was notably missing for most or Rise. However that was due to her sharing a lot of her screen time with Leia in the base, but of course much of that was scrubbed due to the passing of Carrie Fisher. Abrahams himself confirmed that in a recent interview.
Yes there are a few plot holes remaining and a dw little niggles I had with the full trilogy,but at the end of the day, they are minor things and do not stop me enjoying the 3 films.
Nail. Head. Hit. Where The Rise of Skywalker comes across as just a little imbalanced, it’s much more likely due to their having to repurpose unused Leia/Rey footage rather than any awkward rewrites intended to mollify fanboys.
I actually don’t think Abrams is in the business of fan service ... his alternate timeline explainer for Star Trek was a sop to fans, but it never properly accounted for all the differences in his Star Trek universe, which ultimately were there because Abrams knows how to tell a blockbusting good story and he knew that objective was impossible within the established continuity of the TV series. So I don’t think he wrote Rose out because she wasn’t popular with a bunch of misogynistic, basement dwelling internet nerds; I absolutely agree that in the ensemble piece TROS was always intended to be, her place was always going to be an engineering role at the resistance base with Leia, which inevitably curtailed her appearance due to Carrie Fisher’s untimely death.
For those who wondered where Rey got her combat abilities, it's explained in Episode 9
Her mother is Villanelle... :D
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Whether or not Abrams really has retconned much of The Last Jedi in Rise of Skywalker quite as much as some suggest is questionable. There has been a lot of clever marketing around this new film, not all of it positive, pandering to the idiot fanboys who are still feeling the dark side of the butthurt just because their stupid, elaborate internet theories and their favourite obscure trivia about Grand Admiral Thrawn from some early 1990s spin off novel weren’t taken up and validated in The Last Jedi. They have certainly been allowed to believe that Abrams has “rescued” the franchise, but given the negative fanboy reaction to The Last Jedi they probably had little choice but to market The Rise of Skywalker along those lines. Yet we have to remember that Disney stands behind Star Wars now; it paid a king’s ransom for the franchise and it immediately announced the Skywalker saga was to be completed with another trilogy. It is frankly inconceivable that there was no grand plan for where the story was going from the outset. You just don’t pay $4 billion for something without knowing exactly what you plan to do to safeguard the investment.
I really liked the Last Jedi but I think this film does seek to undo a lot of that work.
They did seek to undermine the Rey's lack of signifiant parentage in this film. I know they said it was the Grandparent, not the Parent, but that's a cop-out to get around Rian Johnson's script. It's clear from TLJ that the intention was that Rey was nobody, that she had to find her own way in this world and this story and that she would not be defined otherwise. It wasn't to set up a twist that, yes, her parents were nobody but her Granddad was. That's crap!
It pandered to Star Wars fans who want every character to be related to someone else they know. Handing them a ready-made place in this Universe. Rey being nobody opened it up and they've closed it again. I know the concept of the force being in anyone was hinted out with Finn but it wasn't as big as TLJ made it.
I am also less convinced that any of this was planned. There has been no foreshadowing, hinting or allusions to Palpatane until this film. I think there would have been at the very least hints of a big bad at the end of The Last Jedi but there isn't, it's just the opening scroll of this film where they go 'well, he's back!' and that's it.
I felt the entire film was an oil tanker turning around from the more ambitious course set by The Last Jedi into a film and narrative Star Wars fans would feel safe with. Here are a few of those famous characters you love, here is a big bad you already know and here are a million Star Destroyers each equipped with a planet killing laser that we didn't bother to send anywhere but here.
General Maximus
01-01-2020, 16:21
I don’t think he wrote Rose out because she wasn’t popular with a bunch of misogynistic, basement dwelling internet nerds.
I may be an internet nerd but I am not basement dwelling ;) and I still hate her. It all comes down to my realism factor. All your ships have been blown to bits, you are down to your last handful of survivors and you face imminent peril. Somebody has an opportunity to prevent your inevitable demise and instead of letting him do it you stop him by crashing your ship into his thus sealing the fate of all the people in the bunker as well as yourself. She didn't save him, their ships crashed in front of the AT-ATs so they both would have died anyway. If she was a true rebel she you would have thought of the greater good and acted in the best interest of everyone. It was a stupid stupid story arc and makes me want to scream every time I think about it. At the end of Rise when they are on the deck of the star destroyer and Finn tells everyone to get on the transport and leave and she stops and turns towards him and says "what are you doing?" I slapped my forehead and said "nooooooo, not again". I was just waiting for her to go running after him (and hopefully get blown up).
The funny thing is though, and we didn't get to find out, I half got the impression that Finn was going to tell Rey he loves her.
There were a few things which killed me with Rise and it is all to do with my realism factor and how far fetched stuff is. Things like Rey jumping through the forcefield on Ben's destroyer into space/orbit onto the Falcon. I thought the battle on the deck of the star destroyer at the end was stupid and the passage of time fried my brain. You assume they have gone through hyperspace and it has taken them a few hours to get there because there was no mention of waypoints and having to stop and refuel etc and add another couple of hours on for the battle, so how the pluck did Lando get around a gazillion star systems and rally thousands of ships in that short time period? That would have taken weeks and months. I also thought Lando was under used as well. Given the enormity of his character he should have had more of an influential role and I felt he was there more for decoration than anything else and it was a disservice to his character. Making Finn a "General" at the end was a joke.
The big thing in this film which did it for me was the soundtrack. Whether you want to call it fan service or not, there was a lot more of the original music and themes in this film which is what it needed in the key moments and it helped make it feel more like Star Wars. I wish they would use the Yoda or Force theme in The Mandalorian as well.
I liked how the relationship ended with Rey and Ben and if they were going to make more films in the future I would like to have seen little Jedi babies. I thought what they did for Leia was beautiful and honoured her character properly.
I mentioned in the rate the last film you saw thread that I think this is the best out of the three films. I have got two big problems with this trilogy as a whole and both come down to who is in charge. Whether you like TLJ or hate it you have got to admit there is a problem with consistency across the trilogy. I don't understand why somebody like Kathleen Kennedy didn't sit down right at the start and hash out the story for the trilogy so you knew you was telling one big story as they did with the previous trilogies. Throwing in Palpatine in the last film just doesn't work. The second thing for me is again down to quality of story. I like Rey and BB8 but the other characters don't do anything for me at all. In the previous films you cared about every single character and were emotionally invested in them, whether it be Han, Padme, Vader, Obi-Wan, all of them, good or bad. They all had depth and the characters meant something. I honestly couldn't care less in these films if anyone died, Po, Finn or anyone else. The only people I cared about were the original characters.
This trilogy didn't feel like Star Wars and I don't feel like the story has moved on or I am any more the wiser or richer for having watched it. The best way I can describe it is like you asking me to make a Marvel film. I can have lots of battles, I can put the characters in it and reference various elements of the franchise but you know it wouldn't feel right without the magical touch of the key people like Kevin Feige. The same applies to these films. The prequel trilogy felt like Star Wars and you knew you was watching part of a larger story. The new trilogy feels like a marketing gimmick to me where somebody has bought the rights to Star Wars (which they quite literally have) and are just banging out something to capitalise on the brand. The only film which has felt right was Rogue One.
I was planning on putting everything in spoiler tags but as the film has now been out for two weeks I didn't feel it was necessary as anyone who is interested should have seen it by now.
I think the film series is best watched without cluttering one’s mind with too much sci fi technicality, especially stuff that sounds like it’s come from the extended universe. To the best of my recollection none of the nine saga films (nor Rogue One, nor IIRC Solo) has ever dealt with the gritty detail of travel time or refuelling stops in any consistent or detailed way. Star Wars is science fantasy, not hard science fiction. The technology serves the plot, it does not dictate it.
It seems to me that you’re falling into the same trap as a great many Uber-fans in getting cross when characters don’t conform to a fairly narrow interpretation of what Star Wars characters “should” do in any given situation. The whole point of The Last Jedi was to challenge those assumptions. Perhaps they pushed it too far for the hardcore fans but I think TLJ was a far better addition to the series for it and Rose’s reaction to Finn’s suicidal attack in the final act was by no means indefensible for her character, especially given how little we knew about her. She wasn’t a galaxy conquering hero fulfilling her manifest destiny, she was a low-grade tech who stumbled in to something way above her pay grade - again, entirely in keeping with the trope-chomping theme of that whole film.
General Maximus
01-01-2020, 18:12
I don't know how to explain but things either feel right or they don't. I personally didn't have a problem with Admiral Holdo because she is an unknown character and therefore we do not know how she thinks or reacts to things therefore her behaviour is "realistic" for her character. I also didn't have a problem with Leia flying through space like some people did. There are certain things that work and certain things that don't and I know everyone is different. I feel like we need some Judge Judy words of wisdom and I am very much of the mindset that if it doesn't make sense then it's not true.
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saw this on facebook, no idea who did it, so can't give recognition they deserve :(
I didn't feel it was necessary as anyone who is interested should have seen it by now.
Wrong. I did not see it until today.
For those who wondered where Rey got her combat abilities, it's explained in Episode 9
Her mother is Villanelle... :D
Who is Villanelle ?
I knew who Rey was as soon as she blasted the transport [they thought] chewey was in.
I can only ever remember seeing that power used by the emporor, as soon as it happened I said "thats it, shes palpatines grand daughter".
Wrong. I did not see it until today.
Who is Villanelle ?
I knew who Rey was as soon as she blasted the transport [they thought] chewey was in.
I can only ever remember seeing that power used by the emporor, as soon as it happened I said "thats it, shes palpatines grand daughter".
Jodie Comer, who plays a psychopathic contract killer called Villanelle in the BBC’s Killing Eve, has a very brief cameo as Rey’s mother in a flashback towards the end of the film.
General Maximus
03-01-2020, 08:30
Here's a cracker for you and it explains a lot. I strongly recommend everyone reads it when you have got a spare 15 minutes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/
Here's a cracker for you and it explains a lot. I strongly recommend everyone reads it when you have got a spare 15 minutes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/
The thing that’s wrong with that hypothesis is that the cinema attendance isn’t a zero-sum game - people attending Wonder Woman (and other DC films if they became more successful) wouldn’t diminish the ticket sales for MCU films.
That theory seemed more post-hoc conspiracy theory than reality based.
It also seems to be so defensive of JJ Abrams that, assuming it isn't just made up by the poster themselves, it seems like the leaker is intentionally trying to deflect from him.
It overrates JJ Abrams as a writer/director. Sorry, this film seemed exactly like the kind of film he would make: Big reveals, twists, and set-pieces at the expensive of a cohesive story. They were worried he would go to DC? How would that help them? JJ Abrams hasn't proved himself good at plotting an overall direction for a story. He is notorious for his ability to come up with cool concepts and mysteries and failing to finish them with much satisfaction.
General Maximus
03-01-2020, 20:51
It would be very poor form of Disney to behave in such a manner as well. Marvel and the MCU are so epic and well respected that they should let the franchise stand on its merits. People don't flock to MCU films because they are the only thing out there, they go because they are the best and people will still go and see them regardless of what else is on.
That being said, some of the ideas which were omitted would have been perfect for the film and gave it that magical touch I said was missing several posts above. I love the idea of Anakin, Mace, Yoda, Obi Wan etc making a ghostly appearance in support of Rey at the end with the Force theme blasting through the speakers. Those are the kind of special moments that make it Star Wars. Tbh I loved all the idea/scenes which were left out and it would have been a completely different film in terms of the feel if they had been left in.
Well they did all turn up at the end, admittedly audio only, but nonetheless. I think it was better done as a subtle audio appearance though, as all of them on screen would have stolen the limelight from Rey (and Daisy Ridley) which would have been unfair.
One day we may get to see some of the scenes as deleted scenes, as some of them were actually filmed.
Well they did all turn up at the end, admittedly audio only, but nonetheless. I think it was better done as a subtle audio appearance though, as all of them on screen would have stolen the limelight from Rey (and Daisy Ridley) which would have been unfair.
I think it would have been seen as laying it on too thick. If the 'leaks' are true then Disney made the right move in trying in pull him back a bit. There is already quite a bit of fan service in this film and that would have pushed it too far.
These leaks read like a fan created script of what would be awesome. A Star Wars Greatest Hits Reunion Episode as opposed to the final film. The gang is back together one last time e.t.c.
Really the film should have been a full 3 hour debate in the Star Wars Senate thing from the prequels into the Emperors Executive Overreach but the cowards at Disney didn't have the guts. Also Ewoks flying X-Wings coming in to save the day at the end rather than all those ships.
I think it would have been seen as laying it on too thick. If the 'leaks' are true then Disney made the right move in trying in pull him back a bit. There is already quite a bit of fan service in this film and that would have pushed it too far.
These leaks read like a fan created script of what would be awesome. A Star Wars Greatest Hits Reunion Episode as opposed to the final film. The gang is back together one last time e.t.c.
Really the film should have been a full 3 hour debate in the Star Wars Senate thing from the prequels into the Emperors Executive Overreach but the cowards at Disney didn't have the guts. Also Ewoks flying X-Wings coming in to save the day at the end rather than all those ships.
Best. Episode. Ev-aaaaaar.
this is the funny thing, so many ppl love Star Wars so much, it's impossible to please us all.
We don't know why seeing the force ghosts was cut, it could be to keep time down, it could be that it was distraction, it was unnecessary, the audio alone was more powerful.
BUT what I do know, is that if we had seen the ghosts, there would be ppl moaning that they were only put in as lip service to the fans, and that the "director's cut" with audio only would have been better ;). Also, which Anakin ghost? The "proper" one, from when we saw RotJ when we were kids, or the "new" one done after Ep 3? Hypethetical situation and I've already split the fan boys ;)
There was a twitter post from Star Wars asking for fan ideas - that ewoks in x-wings needs to be submitted.
General Maximus
15-01-2020, 20:49
TROS has just hit $1bn at the box office, I didn't think it was going to make it.
denphone
21-01-2020, 09:04
TROS has just hit $1bn at the box office, I didn't think it was going to make it.
Why as the Star Wars track record at the box office has always proved otherwise.
Becasue he didnt like it ;)
General Maximus
21-01-2020, 21:49
It was my favourite of the three. I didn't think it would hit $1bn because it didn't have the explosive start the previous two did and it had a lot of popular criticism and appeared to grind to a halt around £650m so the fact that it managed to keep going and hit $1bn is very impressive. Love it or hate it, it just shows that no matter how bad a film is certain franchises seem destined to rake in the $$$ and it is sad because it doesn't encourage Disney/Lucasfilm to really try and do a proper job; they know people will watch it regardless of how little effort they pup into it or how badly they screw it up. I think the one exception to that in relation to Star Wars is Solo.
But the challenge is that different peoples' definition of "badly screw it up" varies wildly, so they are never ever going to satisfy all parts of the fan base.
What was said about Rey’s parents in The Last Jedi was true - from a certain point of view. And considering that the prequel trilogy established that Palpatane was the one who resurrected the Sith and started decades of turmoil in the galaxy, there is a very pleasing symmetry in his final denouement coming at the end of the final film. There is absolutely zero chance that this had not been discussed prior to the first story meetings for The Rise of Skywalker, and it is likewise vastly unlikely that Rey’s connection to the grand narrative of the saga had never been considered in detail.
I'll be honest and say that while I enjoyed TLJ, there were things I think that could have done better.. For instance, I felt that Akbar deserved a far more honourable death than he got.
Also, I never believed that Rey's parents were insignificant. I've seen too many films and TV shows where the writers go to great lengths to tell the viewer how a given character is insignificant only to reveal at the end that he or she is actually very significant, and the later Star Wars films have ALWAYS done that with Rey and her parents. I'll be honest, I did believe the fan theory that Luke was her father, and her mother was one of the characters from the expanded universe (even though this is not canon), perhaps Mara Jade. So I was wrong on that count.
General Maximus
13-02-2020, 18:57
2OnieKUgv3I
Got to be better than the original :) (yes, the stories are true, it really is that bad)
https://www.starwars.com/news/the-lego-star-wars-holiday-special-disney-plus-announce
THE LEGO STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL TO PREMIERE ON DISNEY+LEARN THE TRUE MEANING OF LIFE DAY WITH A FESTIVE CELEBRATION OF THE ENTIRE SKYWALKER SAGA IN THE CHARMING LEGO STYLE DEBUTING NOVEMBER 17.
It’s the most wonderful time of the year on Kashyyyk, and LEGO Star Wars fans are invited to journey back to Chewbacca’s homeworld for a Wookiee-sized celebration of the galaxy’s most cheerful and magical holiday — Life Day!
Never thought I'd say this about a Star Wars Holiday Special, but I'm genuinely looking forward to this.
It does look very very good. Also some hilarious jokes that only Lego could get away with.
i was looking forward to it, as i thought the trailer was really funny, the actual show was a bit boring :(
General Maximus
29-11-2020, 14:48
Darth Vader has died :(
https://news.sky.com/story/david-prowse-darth-vader-actor-and-green-cross-code-man-dies-aged-85-12145735
General Maximus
25-01-2021, 19:31
Latest issue of SFX if anyone is interested
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/5.jpg
I would image anyone really interested already has their copy (mine came a few days ago). :D
General Maximus
26-01-2021, 16:37
not if they don't normally buy SFX or magazines in general
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