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Jimmy-J
25-07-2016, 01:24
The scene where Jaws meets Dolly and falls in love with her. I remember Dolly wearing braces on her teeth when she smiled, so do many others.

Have they been digitally removed? Was she wearing them in the first place?
Or is it all to do with the so-called Mandela Effect? :) Either way, it has many people baffled.

Here's the clip... skip to 1:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj1lTyy-HxE

Stephen
25-07-2016, 01:39
I don't remember her having braces tbh.

Jimmy-J
25-07-2016, 02:28
As I remember, it was her wearing the braces that made that scene, she had something in common with him, he found his soulmate and fell in love there and then.

blackthorn
25-07-2016, 06:00
I always thought she had braces as well. Long time since I`ve watched this film though but I thought it was what he was attracted to in her.

nomadking
25-07-2016, 06:41
I remember making the connection with that and near the end where Bond persuades Jaws by implying that she was not "perfect" and so Drax wouldn't allow her to be a survivor, as only the "perfect" were going to be allowed.

Jimmy-J
25-07-2016, 06:58
Strange isn't it, I could have sworn she wore a brace. But can I find evidence of it? Nothing, apart from some character description of Dolly.

heero_yuy
25-07-2016, 09:11
Strange isn't it, I could have sworn she wore a brace. But can I find evidence of it? Nothing, apart from some character description of Dolly.

I remember her having a brace on her top teeth but I've just reviewed the copy of Moonraker I have on the PC and they're not there now.:confused:

Jimmy-J
25-07-2016, 09:37
I remember her having a brace on her top teeth but I've just reviewed the copy of Moonraker I have on the PC and they're not there now.:confused:

The only logical explanation is they've been edited out for some reason, or they weren't there to begin with? But so many are convinced she had them.

I remember laughing when I seen it, because that was the joke.

Dolly

Played by: Blanche Ravalec

Description: In perhaps the strangest love affair in the series, Jaws meets Dolly in Rio after his failed attempt on Bond and Goodhead's lives. The complete opposite of Jaws, Dolly is a short blond girl with pigtails, glasses and braces. It is her influence that leads Jaws to the side of good and she also hears the one line Jaws says in his two movies, "Well, here's to us."

http://www.universalexports.net/Movies/moonraker-cast.shtml

nomadking
25-07-2016, 09:58
Was it an illusion because of the way she partially opens her mouth at first. Not much of her teeth are revealed, but as she is opening her mouth as well it gives a dark area, perhaps leading to the assumption of braces.

Jimmy-J
25-07-2016, 10:54
Was it an illusion because of the way she partially opens her mouth at first. Not much of her teeth are revealed, but as she is opening her mouth as well it gives a dark area, perhaps leading to the assumption of braces.

I remember seeing full top teeth metal. :D

Stephen
25-07-2016, 11:10
But why would they edit out the braces if they were there?

There must be a copy out there then that is unedited?

hedgie
25-07-2016, 11:17
Add another voice to the I would have sworn the braces were there camp.....

Jimmy-J
25-07-2016, 11:26
But why would they edit out the braces if they were there?

There must be a copy out there then that is unedited?

Your guess is as good as mine, I've looked high and low, no braces to be found.

Chris
25-07-2016, 11:36
Yes, she definitely had braces.

---------- Post added at 11:36 ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 ----------

... Except I can't find a single image of them ...

nomadking
25-07-2016, 11:45
Was it an illusion because of the way she partially opens her mouth at first. Not much of her teeth are revealed, but as she is opening her mouth as well it gives a dark area, perhaps leading to the assumption of braces.
Here's some pics to demonstrate. She opens her mouth slightly at the same time as opening her jaw. That shows little of her teeth and a darkened area of her mouth between upper and lower teeth.
Pic1
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/07/4.png
Pic2
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/07/5.png

Stephen
25-07-2016, 11:55
No braces to be seen at all.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moonraker+dolly&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw0aWOuY7OAhVbF8AKHTHvCM8QsAQIHQ&biw=1386&bih=729#imgrc=fBVs-ygERqt_QM%3A

Google image search. Even the behind the scenes photos don't show her as having any braces.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/07/3.jpg

hedgie
25-07-2016, 12:23
Well look what is SAYS here.

http://universalexports.net/Movies/moonraker-cast.shtml

I'm sure she has braces, totally sure, Look at the scenes where Jaws disengages Bonds Moonraker before the space station blows up. I would bet real cash money (although on only bet what you afford to loose precedent it wont be much) that she does have braces.

Just checked and I would have lost money, no sign of braces in the scene I was thinking of



https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/07/2.jpg

nomadking
25-07-2016, 12:36
Well look what is SAYS here.

http://universalexports.net/Movies/moonraker-cast.shtml

I'm sure she has braces, totally sure, Look at the scenes where Jaws disengages Bonds Moonraker before the space station blows up. I would bet real cash money (although on only bet what you afford to loose precedent it wont be much) that she does have braces.

Just checked and I would have lost money, no sign of braces in the scene I was thinking ofLot's of smiling in those scenes, but no braces. Same again in the brief scene where they arrive on the space station.

General Maximus
25-07-2016, 21:15
I used to have them all on vhs which would have shown in but I got rid of them years ago.

Stephen
25-07-2016, 21:53
Well I am guessing that none of the behind the scenes photos or publicity stills show braces then they were never there.

General Maximus
25-07-2016, 22:05
She definitely had them. I havent watched any of the old james bond films for about 20 years but as soon as i saw this thread i could remember the scene vividly without having to watch or see anything. A lot of the time in old films they made things very obvious for the audience and even when i was 8 i can remember her smiling at him and making the connection that he loves her because they have the "same" teeth.

nomadking
25-07-2016, 22:15
She definitely had them. I havent watched any of the old james bond films for about 20 years but as soon as i saw this thread i could remember the scene vividly without having to watch or see anything. A lot of the time in old films they made things very obvious for the audience and even when i was 8 i can remember her smiling at him and making the connection that he loves her because they have the "same" teeth.But at that point she doesn't properly show her teeth at all.

General Maximus
25-07-2016, 22:31
you could see the shiny sparkling braces making her teeth look just like his

SnoopZ
25-07-2016, 22:59
I remember she had braces and I found this.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/07/3.png

Paul
26-07-2016, 00:13
Wasnt there a parody advert once, in which she had a mouth full of braces, I seem to remember that.

Jimmy-J
26-07-2016, 00:21
Wasnt there a parody advert once, in which she had a mouth full of braces, I seem to remember that.

Yeah, it was for a credit card and the girl on the checkout had braces.

Found it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BhLAWP7jGA

heero_yuy
26-07-2016, 09:07
I used to have them all on vhs which would have shown in but I got rid of them years ago.

I still have a VHS copy somewhere but my VCR is kaput. I have an old VHS camcorder though so I might be able to run the tape through that. I'll try that later.

blackthorn
26-07-2016, 09:11
I still have a VHS copy somewhere but my VCR is kaput. I have an old VHS camcorder though so I might be able to run the tape through that. I'll try that later.

Loads of people have done that and theres no sign of any braces in any of them. The only explanation apparently is that we are in an alternative universe.