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roughbeast
11-01-2012, 13:59
Here's the new VM 100Mb rollout timetable. http://shop.virginmedia.com/content/dam/allyours/pdf/100Mb%20rollout%2006%2001%2012.pdf

In some cases it looks as if the work is going to be completed a month or two after the Virgin Media 'speed doubling' rollout is started. ie. Those of us on 100Mb will be upgraded to 120Mb between Feb 2012 and mid-2013. http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2136725/virgin-media-boosts-broadband-speeds-120mbit

So, presumably places like Sheffield will never get 100Mb. They will go straight on to 120Mb when it is enabled.

qasdfdsaq
11-01-2012, 15:42
April-12, hah so they lied again, what a surprise.

Martin_D
11-01-2012, 15:45
Uddingston Mar-12 YES :)

Andrewcrawford23
11-01-2012, 15:46
Uddingston Mar-12 YES :)

that might nto happen uddingston is huge upgrade but i say there a good chance but dnt just think cause the page says it it will happen some date have been moved backa lot of times

denphone
11-01-2012, 15:51
April-12, hah so they lied again, what a surprise.

Yes it says April 12th for Newton Abbot is that this year or next year.

Martin_D
11-01-2012, 15:51
that might nto happen uddingston is huge upgrade but i say there a good chance but dnt just think cause the page says it it will happen some date have been moved backa lot of times

I know but i hope we make it

knack
11-01-2012, 16:14
Here's the new VM 100Mb rollout timetable. http://shop.virginmedia.com/content/dam/allyours/pdf/100Mb%20rollout%2006%2001%2012.pdf

In some cases it looks as if the work is going to be completed a month or two after the Virgin Media 'speed doubling' rollout is started. ie. Those of us on 100Mb will be upgraded to 120Mb between Feb 2012 and mid-2013. http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2136725/virgin-media-boosts-broadband-speeds-120mbit

So, presumably places like Sheffield will never get 100Mb. They will go straight on to 120Mb when it is enabled.

BBC News article says 50Mb customers will be upgraded to 100Mb so I would have thought they would offer both 100 and 120.

Thanks for pointing out it's been updated though! Everywhere finally has a date but still a few months til south gyle is upgraded. What exactly does the upgrade process involve? Would appreciate if someone could tell me.

virginruinedntl
11-01-2012, 17:44
so by May everyone will have access to 100mb, pretty nice :)

Hugh
11-01-2012, 18:55
Yes it says April 12th for Newton Abbot is that this year or next year.12 is the year, not the day....;)

Synthetic
11-01-2012, 20:43
Says Jan 12 for Newcastle still but we've had it since September :p:

alphadog911
12-01-2012, 13:36
I'm confused...

I've ordered 100MB (engineer is coming tomorrow), yet the timetable states March for Luton.

:confused:

denphone
12-01-2012, 14:05
12 is the year, not the day....;)

Thanks Hugh for that confirmation.:)

pillz
12-01-2012, 14:45
April 12 lol , thats ages! :( but nice to have a timescale :D

---------- Post added at 14:45 ---------- Previous post was at 14:44 ----------

Thanks Hugh for that confirmation.:)

haha just saw that , i thought it was the day to :P

roger skillin
12-01-2012, 15:01
Free upgrade so what about me?, i'm on 50mb but do not have the super hub thingy i have the curved shiny black one, is it Netgear ? not sure as not at home right now.
Will that cope with 100mb or will i have to pay for a superhub?

davidthornton
12-01-2012, 16:17
Free upgrade so what about me?, i'm on 50mb but do not have the super hub thingy i have the curved shiny black one, is it Netgear ? not sure as not at home right now.
Will that cope with 100mb or will i have to pay for a superhub?

Probably the VMNG300 modem, if you got it when 50Mbit initially came out. It does work with 100Mbit and a few people, including me, managed to keep hold of it and upgrade from 50 > 100. However official policy is one needs a Super Hub and that requires an engineer to visit. SH is free.

webrosc
12-01-2012, 16:43
12 is the year, not the day....;)

2112 knowing the time it takes to get stuff down here ;)

roughbeast
13-01-2012, 05:52
Free upgrade so what about me?, i'm on 50mb but do not have the super hub thingy i have the curved shiny black one, is it Netgear ? not sure as not at home right now.
Will that cope with 100mb or will i have to pay for a superhub?

Your VMNG300 will work, but in the long run you will need the superhub because that can use 8 down channels. You can use it in modem only mode if you already have a good gigabit router.

gazza1888
14-01-2012, 23:50
Im on 50Mb at present so i know i will be going up to 100Mb but i live in uddingston which as said before is march 2012 does that mean come marchif its completed will they automaticly put all 50Mb customers up to 100Mb or if i want 100Mb i will need pay to upgrade to it myself come march then whenever they finally get round to doubling speen in my area probz in 18months time id get put up to 120Mb

Ignitionnet
15-01-2012, 09:40
No, yes and yes. As written in several posts here and elsewhere.

Zhadnost
15-01-2012, 09:49
I'm on 50Mbit and I have a VM300, If I want a Superhub (modem mode), do I need to upgrade to 100Mbit?

Ignitionnet
15-01-2012, 10:08
No, you can pay for one or one will be issued when you get the uplift.

Ken W
15-01-2012, 10:43
I have the Virgin Medea 256 modem, will that be ok when the 20 Mb speed update is rolled out in my area?

roughbeast
15-01-2012, 12:23
I have the Virgin Medea 256 modem, will that be ok when the 20 Mb speed update is rolled out in my area?


They will give you a superhub regardless.

Chrysalis
15-01-2012, 13:01
if 20mbit stays on docsis1 which I think it will, then your modem would work but I think as the poster above says they will force a superhub on you.

MagicUK
15-01-2012, 13:01
May 12, love living under the croydon area, seems the network round here needs alot of work, im still get the 1.75mb upload. my 50mb broadband has been great though, i think the area im in isnt overly used. 50mb pretty much all the time!

Ignitionnet
15-01-2012, 13:22
I have the Virgin Medea 256 modem, will that be ok when the 20 Mb speed update is rolled out in my area?


Yes.

You did notice this thread was about the release of 100Mb though, right?

IE It's not the over 70 page speed doubling thread.

General Maximus
15-01-2012, 17:54
if 20mbit stays on docsis1 which I think it will

I thought 20mbit was on docsis 3? When they were rolling out 50mbit a few years ago they said that once the rollout had been completed they was going to move all 20mbit users onto docsis 3 to have alleviate the congestion on docsis 1

v0id
15-01-2012, 20:17
I thought 20mbit was on docsis 3? When they were rolling out 50mbit a few years ago they said that once the rollout had been completed they was going to move all 20mbit users onto docsis 3 to have alleviate the congestion on docsis 1

Using a Superhub with XL 20 the lights all stay green, indicating it's on DOCSIS 2

thenry
15-01-2012, 20:28
if 20mbit stays on docsis1 which I think it will, then your modem would work but I think as the poster above says they will force a superhub on you.

docsis 1 is going and for very good reasons too!

qasdfdsaq
15-01-2012, 20:51
20mb is spread across a mix of the legacy and overlay networks depending on area and demand, it doesn't require DOCSIS 3.

General Maximus
15-01-2012, 21:55
i would love to see some stats on forecasted utilisation once the upgrades are completed. Moving a large proportion of customers up to 60/100/120 on docsis 3 is surely going to significantly impact the available bandwidth. I know a lot of people are saying that 50mbit users upgrading to 100 arent going to download anymore than they currently do and their usage is going to be the same otherwise they would have paid for 100mbit to start off with, but they arent taking into account the fact that people cant always afford what they want.

There is no way wanging everyone up to 50mbit+ isn't going to result in increased usage, otherwise we would all be quite happy back on 1mbit. If you gave me a new Audi I would make a point of going out more and driving it everywhere I can just because it is something new which I want to use.

roughbeast
16-01-2012, 06:02
Uddingston Mar-12 YES :)

Having noted your general upload problems, (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33684670-upload-speed.html ), I wonder if the upgrade in your area will solve the surrounding issues. There must be work to be done at UBR and cabinet level in Uddingston given how far behind the area is.

I'm not suggesting you wait until that alleged upgrade in March, but at least there may light at the end of your particular tunnel.

Chrysalis
16-01-2012, 06:36
i would love to see some stats on forecasted utilisation once the upgrades are completed. Moving a large proportion of customers up to 60/100/120 on docsis 3 is surely going to significantly impact the available bandwidth. I know a lot of people are saying that 50mbit users upgrading to 100 arent going to download anymore than they currently do and their usage is going to be the same otherwise they would have paid for 100mbit to start off with, but they arent taking into account the fact that people cant always afford what they want.

There is no way wanging everyone up to 50mbit+ isn't going to result in increased usage, otherwise we would all be quite happy back on 1mbit. If you gave me a new Audi I would make a point of going out more and driving it everywhere I can just because it is something new which I want to use.

excellent post.

I fully agree, its 99% certian usage will increase, the only question is by how much.

Also it will increase burst time demand which basically means even if someone is only download the same amount it will add more demand to the network as it will burst to higher speed.

n_s_simpson
21-01-2012, 00:50
I've been told tonight by a high up chap in VM's UK support that they had meetings today because a load of confusing info has been sent out that they need to rectify.

Apparently when your area gets upgraded people on the 50mb service will get an upgrade to 100mb. People on 100mb will get a discount (in my case £10) to bring in line with what existing 50mb customers pay.

Once the rollout is completed in around 18 months VM then plan to upgrade both the old 50mb customers and the old 100mb customers to their new 120mb service.

There will then be 3 options: 20mb, 60mb, 120mb.

They want to get the revenue back for customers prepared to pay so will then plan for a 200mb service after this rollout is all completed.

Read here: http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Fibre-optic-broadband-cable/Cable-Broadband-Doubling-Explained/m-p/981987#M112062

qasdfdsaq
21-01-2012, 01:18
We knew this ages ago.

Read here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10/33684528-virgin-media-to-double-broadband-speed.html

Zee
21-01-2012, 02:02
Load of rubbish, first was December 2011 now April 2012?

qasdfdsaq
21-01-2012, 02:16
Welcome to the club.

Chrysalis
21-01-2012, 09:45
If they want the revenue then why drop the prices?

roughbeast
21-01-2012, 11:28
If they want the revenue then why drop the prices?

It has to be a balance between getting the punters in, i.e. mass turnover of goods / service relative to the necessary investment, and providing for those prepared to pay a premium price for 200Mb. Get the balance right and you maximise revenue.