ofcom to reduce broadband costs

[thedavid2007]

ofcom said it will reduce the cost of broadband, but how come virgin have just added £0.75 to my bill?

[Chrysalis]

because they dont regulate cable broadband. also they mainly control BT wholesale pricing, just that usually retail pricing tends to follow it.

[craigj2k12]

they are lowering the amount that BT charge to its re-sellers, so no benefit to cable users, unless VM decide that they will bring their prices down due to competition (i doubt it)

[richard1960]

they are lowering the amount that BT charge to its re-sellers, so no benefit to cable users, unless VM decide that they will bring their prices down due to competition (i doubt it)

Will the above help sky in large part as sky will be able to buy re-sell BTs infinity product at lower cost.

[BenMcr]

And Virgin National ADSL services ;)

[richard1960]

And Virgin National ADSL services ;)

Yes thats true ben its easy to forget virgin run a ADSL service.:)

[martyh]

I think it's cheap enough ,ofcom would be better off ensuring that providers give a stable speed at all times closer to what is advertised we can't expect improvements in infrastructure if the price gets forced down

[Chrysalis]

martyh its common sense what you just said, I agree ofcom defenitly have their priorities wrong now as we now the cheapest in the world for broadband already.

[craigj2k12]

They should regulate cable more

[Peter_]

They should regulate cable more
In what way.

[Chrysalis]

Will the above help sky in large part as sky will be able to buy re-sell BTs infinity product at lower cost.

sky and O2/BE, plus talktalk are the prime beneficiaries of the regulation, the biggest boost comes to the adsl LLU market.

Apparently BT are not been leaned on so much by ofcom on FTTC which is why the above isp's have yet to launch FTTC products as they not getting the same cuddly approach for that. This upcoming year sees yet another enforced price drop on LLU wholesale prices which to be honest it doesnt need it

Those who want cable regulated I would think before making such a wish, the market is already damaged by enforced low pricing, it is the prime reason why the country is lacking in FTTP rollout and traffic shaping is so widespread.

I would have not regulated FTTC at all and told BT they got X amount of years garuantueed no regulation as long as they maintain their ADSL services as is (dont withdraw them), this keeps cheap adsl available whilst FTTC could be sold as a premium product. There is no real need at this time for cheap FTTC products, whilst I think the internet is now a utility, the essentials of it can still be adequatly used on slow connections.

[adzii_nufc]

BT/Sky should get a spanking.

Sky connect up to 10mbps!

ofcom should make them add

''Comes with Free crappy router and cant be used after 5pm'' to the T&C's

All this for only £17pm!

Thank god for cable :angel:

[craigj2k12]

In what way.

dunno, price maybe, but on service. there are many oversubscribed UBR's and some people are being given an estimated repair date 6 months away.

i also think that VM should be regulated to keep latency low, or at least they should do it off their own back. jitter is a real mess and pings can be well into the hundreds

[Peter_]

dunno, price maybe, but on service. there are many oversubscribed UBR's and some people are being given an estimated repair date 6 months away.

i also think that VM should be regulated to keep latency low, or at least they should do it off their own back. jitter is a real mess and pings can be well into the hundreds
Thanks for that as the other post had nothing to go on.

[craigj2k12]

Thanks for that as the other post had nothing to go on.

sorry boss :erm:

[Nopanic]

I think it's cheap enough ,ofcom would be better off ensuring that providers give a stable speed at all times closer to what is advertised we can't expect improvements in infrastructure if the price gets forced down

dunno, price maybe, but on service. there are many oversubscribed UBR's and some people are being given an estimated repair date 6 months away.

i also think that VM should be regulated to keep latency low, or at least they should do it off their own back. jitter is a real mess and pings can be well into the hundreds

I dunno, I don't spend much time looking at the physical network these days, but overall I think the service (as rated by ofcom) is pretty good.

This is through a Superhub on a pretty poor part of the ex NTL network.

http://www.pingtest.net/result/38090905.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

http://www.pingtest.net/result/38090944.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

http://www.pingtest.net/result/38090966.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/108.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/109.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[craigj2k12]

speeds usually fine, but ping rates have mad jitter

[Rob King]

i think if ofcom get to reduce the prices then virgin media have to follow as well as they will be out priced slightly

[pip08456]

Cutting BB prices any further would have an adverse effect IMHO. ATM the prices are cheaper than they've ever been.

If you expect ISP's to invest in their networks you have to give then a resonable expectation of profit to be able to do so.

Take the case of just VM with the introduction of 30Mb cheaper then existing 20Mb in most cases, plus price reductions on the 50 Mb service.

What happened?

Traffic shaping introduced and congestion relief taking months.

[Chrysalis]

pip you got it in one, and even then people were bitching about a one off £30. So even tho ofcom dont directly regulate cable, the regulation on adsl is having an impact because cable has to compete with it.

[craigj2k12]

but overall I think the service (as rated by ofcom) is pretty good.

ofcom only rate speed not quality, ping, jitter, packet loss etc.