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AdamD
23-09-2008, 23:53
We have 3 users sharing this 20mb connection and from about 8pm onwards, have downloaded about 7gb of data between the three of us.

For some reason, unlike other times, we aren't being traffic shaped in anyway, which is odd.

Any idea why it's not kicking in tonight? heh

xspeedyx
24-09-2008, 00:08
8pm onwards looks like you haven't triggered it and not hit the limit or just got lucky

Fatec
24-09-2008, 00:09
8pm onwards looks like you haven't triggered it and not hit the limit or just got lucky

STM isnt enabled in certain parts of nottingham tonight either :erm:

i-Set
24-09-2008, 00:50
STM isnt enabled in certain parts of nottingham tonight either :erm:

or maybe Virgin Media has finally come to its senses and is abolishing the entire STM policy, succumbing to customer requests lol :D yayyy everyone rejoice VM has seen the light

SteevieNiteHeat
24-09-2008, 00:53
or maybe Virgin Media has finally come to its senses and is abolishing the entire STM policy, succumbing to customer requests lol :D yayyy everyone rejoice VM has seen the light

Yeah then you wake up and face the fact that what you just said was all a pipe dream!

Axegrinder
24-09-2008, 08:52
STM isnt enabled in certain parts of nottingham tonight either :erm:

I noticed that last night aswell, we had all 3 pcs in our house online, and we had the full 2mb all night :cool:

Druchii
24-09-2008, 09:01
or maybe Virgin Media has finally come to its senses and is abolishing the entire STM policy, succumbing to customer requests lol :D yayyy everyone rejoice VM has seen the light
Wake up, you're dreaming again ;)

---------- Post added at 09:01 ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 ----------

STM isnt enabled in certain parts of nottingham tonight either :erm:
Just making room for DPI and Phorm gear :p:

*dons tinfoil hat*

xspeedyx
24-09-2008, 09:19
Why would they take it down

PeteTheMusicGuy
24-09-2008, 09:54
It will more than likely be back tonight even worse than before ;)

Ignitionnet
24-09-2008, 10:46
Why would they take it down

A certain other provider removed all limits from their Max pack and is about to start really advertising the fact so they're seeing how the network holds up without STM perhaps.

xspeedyx
24-09-2008, 11:01
Wow I didnt know you throught Virgin Media was a good ISP?

Ignitionnet
24-09-2008, 11:11
Wow I didnt know you throught Virgin Media was a good ISP?

Not about thinking anything it's just the most likely explanation :)

xspeedyx
24-09-2008, 11:32
The mostly likely explanation is they had a fault

Ignitionnet
24-09-2008, 11:37
The mostly likely explanation is they had a fault

On a few different areas all at the same time? ;)

xspeedyx
24-09-2008, 11:39
So this could mean the end of stm?

Rone
24-09-2008, 12:30
The mostly likely explanation is they had a fault


That would'nt be so unusual. :D

xspeedyx
24-09-2008, 12:36
That would'nt be so unusual. :D

Thats what I was thinking unless Virgin are adding new equipment and need to disable stm for a night

brundles
24-09-2008, 12:39
The removal of STM in response to Sky is possible but I suspect VM will prefer to push the difference in top speeds and the data you can download in 24 hours rather than remove STM.

I seem to remember previous threads about application throttling from Trax - I guess another possibility is the removal/upgrade of the STM kit to make room for that.

Ignitionnet
24-09-2008, 13:15
Thats what I was thinking unless Virgin are adding new equipment and need to disable stm for a night

STM would not need to be disabled to add new equipment.

Remember STM isn't a system it's just a few commands on the uBR / CMTS.

Zain
24-09-2008, 20:31
interesting thread anyone capped so far?

looselipsuk
24-09-2008, 21:51
In Kirkby in Ashfield so come under Mansfield and am capped at the moment.

Jonathan90
24-09-2008, 21:52
tbh why don't they just put a monthly cap on man like comcast then lets see who wants to foot the bill when they bust their cap by miles they won't do it again. btw who the hell doesnloads more than 250gb a month be serious

Stuart
24-09-2008, 22:02
tbh why don't they just put a monthly cap on man like comcast then lets see who wants to foot the bill when they bust their cap by miles they won't do it again. btw who the hell doesnloads more than 250gb a month be serious

Were you a member of nthellworld.com (this site's predecessor) when NTL "leaked" details of their capping plans at 4pm one Friday afternoon? By Monday morning, the thread generated had reached nearly 7,000 posts (mostly complaints) and probably over 300 new members. A lot of people where moaning that they needed to download 200 Gig of "Linux Distributions" every month.

Fatec
24-09-2008, 22:04
Were you a member of nthellworld.com (this site's predecessor) when NTL "leaked" details of their capping plans at 4pm one Friday afternoon? By Monday morning, the thread generated had reached nearly 7,000 posts (mostly complaints) and probably over 300 new members.

I remember that, though was under a different name way back then ;)

Just goes to shows that back then we actually complained and got things to change.

Now we just moan, moan, moan and moan...but still stay with them :)

Rone
24-09-2008, 23:06
"Now we just moan, moan, moan and moan...but still stay with them "

Because there's been no real competition so far?

Sirius
24-09-2008, 23:26
tbh why don't they just put a monthly cap on man like comcast then lets see who wants to foot the bill when they bust their cap by miles they won't do it again. btw who the hell doesnloads more than 250gb a month be serious

I do

Date Download Upload Total
2008-09 381.93 GB 9.65 GB 391.58 GB
2008-08 852.96 GB 21.50 GB 874.46 GB
2008-07 732.58 GB 18.40 GB 750.98 GB
2008-06 352.07 GB 9.92 GB 361.99 GB
2008-05 667.24 GB 28.12 GB 695.36 GB
2008-04 709.73 GB 17.86 GB 727.59 GB
2008-03 780.67 GB 19.09 GB 799.76 GB
2008-02 160.99 GB 9.42 GB 170.41 GB

When Vm provide decent HD Tv and Film channels i will not need to do as much downloading till then i get it from other places. Those figures included lots of streaming TV as well as gaming and general surfing for a large family with 4 pc's and 2 laptops


Flame away

Fatec
24-09-2008, 23:26
I do

Me too.

Alot more than 250GB.

Ignitionnet
24-09-2008, 23:58
Disgraceful... I use 10GB/month, all worship me and my purity.

Yes I'm being sarcastic, they advertise unlimited, leech on :)

I would be in favour of some intelligent traffic management following the Comcast regime. If they do that applying a hard cap on top is not necessary.

AbyssUnderground
25-09-2008, 00:46
Me too.

Alot more than 250GB.

54.963GB I did just yesterday, midnight to 10.30pm. I got STM'ed twice too. Thats the most I've ever done in a single day, I usually average less than 100GB a month at the moment since I have no space left...

Fatec
25-09-2008, 00:47
54.963GB I did just yesterday, midnight to 10.30pm. I got STM'ed twice too. Thats the most I've ever done in a single day, I usually average less than 100GB a month at the moment since I have no space left...

I did exactly 220GB yesterday :D

That's about average for me, that's both up and down though.

Stabhappy
25-09-2008, 00:49
Man. I thought the initial 50gigs was a lot when I got this 20mb connection; the hell are you downloading?

dilli-theclaw
25-09-2008, 01:09
tbh why don't they just put a monthly cap on man like comcast then lets see who wants to foot the bill when they bust their cap by miles they won't do it again. btw who the hell doesnloads more than 250gb a month be seriousWell I can and do more than that on my dodgy virgin ADSL connection too.

Fatec
25-09-2008, 01:10
Man. I thought the initial 50gigs was a lot when I got this 20mb connection; the hell are you downloading?

Alot of linux iso's...;) honest... :angel:

Stabhappy
25-09-2008, 01:13
Everyone knows that's the only thing people on Virgin download. Virgin is actually the largest society of linux guys I've ever seen.

dilli-theclaw
25-09-2008, 01:15
Looks that way - I've just set off 6 ;)

Jonathan90
25-09-2008, 01:36
Fair enough and tbh thoses linux people creating different versions have there work cut out. lol ;) and also i have no idea why windows is so popular.

popper
25-09-2008, 02:28
Everyone knows that's the only thing people on Virgin download. Virgin is actually the largest society of linux guys I've ever seen.

LOL, yeah but did you notice how Virgin Media cant even be bothered to update and keep the current internal VM linux distro's servers up to date and mirrored there.

if they did we wouldnt need to go outside the internal cable network and suffer STM....

ohh wait, Virgin Media DO infact include these internal VM server Linux distro downloading in all your STM totals, :erm:

so you might as well go get em elsewere, were they are at least kept upto date and mirrored within minutes of release.

BTW i wasnt STMed last night but am today again, and also suffering the effects in not being able to even refresh these pages at times averaging 2 times a day and for hours, inside STB hours even when iv not downloaded anywere enough to officially trigger STM on 10Mbit,its been like that for around 2 weeks now, excluding last night in a baguley connected uBR... yet full and clear reasonable 700Kbyte+ slax/FreeNAS torrents at other times.

AdamD
25-09-2008, 17:13
I never did get STM'd that night when creating this thread
Was kinda nice, heh

xspeedyx
25-09-2008, 17:46
Would be nice if they turned it off in Dudley

Toto
25-09-2008, 17:49
Would also be nice if they could mention STM (http://www.broadband-expert.co.uk/blog/virgin-broadband/virgin-slates-rival-broadband-provider-over-claims/77231) when slating Sky's removal of their FUP for their premium speed service.

“Virgin Media has always believed that customers should be able to enjoy their broadband as much as they want. We were the first ISP to provide unlimited broadband packages to our entire customer base, including both cable and ADSL, and have never imposed any form of ‘fair use’ policy.”

Ignitionnet
25-09-2008, 19:28
http://onewayinternet.blogspot.com/2008/09/special-noteworthy-comments.html

:rofl:

vmuser027
28-09-2008, 13:31
I've downloaded over 2.4Gig since 10am this morning on Newsgroups and so far have not been traffic managed! :shocked:

On the 10Mb service by the way.

xspeedyx
28-09-2008, 19:59
where are you in the west midlands

Stabhappy
28-09-2008, 20:06
CF37, STM still quite clearly in effect.

vmuser027
28-09-2008, 21:13
where are you in the west midlands

Dudley. Daytime STM definitely was not in effect today on ubr03.dudl. I downloaded over 10Gig today. I did get hit after 4pm though. So the evening STM is still in place.

Is it just me or does browsing seem faster when STM'd?

xspeedyx
29-09-2008, 09:39
When I get stm I get a rather stable connection, aint had time to check stm on dud ubr05 yet

Chrysalis
29-09-2008, 11:17
STM is a form of fair use policy, since its directed at people who download heavily or even moderatly, so technically VM are lying in their statement.

CIS
29-09-2008, 18:53
I did exactly 220GB yesterday :D

That's about average for me, that's both up and down though.

You downloaded 220Gig in a day?