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takisawa
13-07-2008, 23:20
Ok, so with baited breath I await the upgrading of Lichfield to 10mb.
But how will I know...?
What bit of info on my modem page will indicate this ?
At the moment I have the info shown below...

Also, is my dusty old NTL250 modem up to the job ?

Thanks in advance guys.



Cable Modem Downstream Downstream Lock : Locked Downstream Channel Id : 4 Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz Downstream Modulation : QAM256 Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4 Downstream Receive Power Level : 4.3 dBmV Downstream SNR : 36.2 dB


Cable Modem Operation Configuration Network Access : Allowed Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000 Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000 Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 1600 Maximum Number of CPEs : 1 Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragametation Enabled, PHS Disabled

whydoIneedatech
13-07-2008, 23:23
Ok, so with baited breath I await the upgrading of Lichfield to 10mb.
But how will I know...?
What bit of info on my modem page will indicate this ?
At the moment I have the info shown below...

Also, is my dusty old NTL250 modem up to the job ?

Thanks in advance guys.



Cable Modem Downstream Downstream Lock : Locked Downstream Channel Id : 4 Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz Downstream Modulation : QAM256 Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4 Downstream Receive Power Level : 4.3 dBmV Downstream SNR : 36.2 dB


Cable Modem Operation Configuration Network Access : Allowed Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000 Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000 Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 1600 Maximum Number of CPEs : 1 Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragametation Enabled, PHS Disabled

Still on you've guessed it.

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/existingcustomers/faster/schedule.html

By the end of the month it says.;)

Cobbydaler
13-07-2008, 23:26
Maximum Downstream Data Rate will change to 10240000

takisawa
14-07-2008, 00:16
Thats it then.
I'm going to stay awake till then.
Breath still baited.
Will it change my life...?

ceedee
14-07-2008, 09:39
Thats it then.
I'm going to stay awake till then.
Breath still baited.
Will it change my life...?

10Mb/s won't change your life but staying awake for the rest of the month might!

Take a deep breath and remember that this is only the internet and real life exists outside of your computer. Your upgrade will arrive eventually and wishing for it sooner will not speed the process up.

xspeedyx
14-07-2008, 10:12
Enjoy it download as much dvd's music iso's as you can but just dont get caught by the BPI and keep it legal lol

DJ2liveUK
14-07-2008, 16:43
and outside of the STM rules. rofl.

takisawa
14-07-2008, 16:53
Oh no worries about downloading. Did a bit once but soon got bored of dodgy camcorder shot new movie releases. I do download music but pay for it. Dont do online gaming, in fact our net usage is fairly mundane I suppose. Just peed off that the net stalls for 5 - 10 mins every hour or so. hoping this upgrade sorts that out.

Hornet
15-07-2008, 08:06
I am in an area that has been done. When I do a speed test I still get 4MB, why is it not 10?

ANY ISSUES WITH THE BELOW? I get this on the config service :-

Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 bps
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000 bps

Downstream Receive Power Level : 4.34 dBmv
Downstream SNR : 35.33 dB
Upstream Transmit Power Level : 50.50 dBmv


Speed testTue, 15 Jul 2008 07:06:26 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 2031 ms = 504.2 KB/sec, approx 4155 Kbps, 4.06 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 2000 ms = 512 KB/sec, approx 4219 Kbps, 4.12 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 2094 ms = 489 KB/sec, approx 4029 Kbps, 3.93 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 4156 ms = 492.8 KB/sec, approx 4061 Kbps, 3.97 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4116 Kbps, 4.02 Mbps




Thanks for any help

southwell
15-07-2008, 08:42
Reboot your modem?

whydoIneedatech
15-07-2008, 08:45
I am in an area that has been done. When I do a speed test I still get 4MB, why is it not 10?

ANY ISSUES WITH THE BELOW? I get this on the config service :-

Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 bps = 10Mb
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000 bps= correct 10Mb upload speed

Downstream Receive Power Level : 4.34 dBmv
Downstream SNR : 35.33 dB
Upstream Transmit Power Level : 50.50 dBmv


Speed testTue, 15 Jul 2008 07:06:26 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 2031 ms = 504.2 KB/sec, approx 4155 Kbps, 4.06 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 2000 ms = 512 KB/sec, approx 4219 Kbps, 4.12 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 2094 ms = 489 KB/sec, approx 4029 Kbps, 3.93 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 4156 ms = 492.8 KB/sec, approx 4061 Kbps, 3.97 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4116 Kbps, 4.02 Mbps




Thanks for any help

You are on 10Mb already see above.


Have you tried going to this link to check your speeds http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/

click on blueyondergames>demos>then click on at least 2 large files and run them wait a couple of minutes then write down the transfer rates on the files that are running> times them by 8 and you will get a truer download speed.

Hornet
15-07-2008, 09:48
Did two they stabalised at 260KB/SEC transfer rate.

Does this all mean I am still only getting 4MB, anyone else in the Luton area on 4MB L VM BB pack?

Thanks again

Hornet
15-07-2008, 14:02
Could anyone help with the above results. Sorry I am clueless!

Additionally I have a wired belkin router feeding my PC and Xbox 360. If I buy a laptop can I buy something to sent the net to the laptop via the router or the PC USB? Is this possible....as you can see I know nothing when it comes to PCs and the net :(

Cheers for all help

Zain
15-07-2008, 14:05
a router can send net access to anything that allows it too. . . .so yeah you can via router.

southwell
15-07-2008, 14:06
Call Virgin and ask for the wireless router, it's free for L and XL customers!

Hornet
15-07-2008, 14:21
What VM will send me a free router? Is it any good? Anyone know why my speed is stuck at 4MB?

Thanks all again

southwell
15-07-2008, 14:25
Yes. It's a netgear, works fine for me, i get 60mbps through my network and full internet speeds anywhere in the house.

sstainer
15-07-2008, 14:29
Did two they stabalised at 260KB/SEC transfer rate.

Does this all mean I am still only getting 4MB, anyone else in the Luton area on 4MB L VM BB pack?

Thanks again

seems strange you only getting slow speeds however do try if have'nt already the tcp optimizer

http://www.speedguide.net/files/TCPOptimizer.exe

The TCP Optimizer is a free, easy Windows program that provides an intuitive interface for tuning and optimizing your Internet connection. There is no installation required, just download and run.

once you run it select your speed with slider ie 10mb 10000kbps
select optimal settings at bottom click modify all network adaptors
apply changes then ok them then Restart pc, hopefully should see improvement's But wont hurt trying it

Hornet
15-07-2008, 15:26
Did that still 4MB, bit weird modem results show 10MB yet download is 4MB :(

How else can I sort this being stuck on 4MB?

So do I just phone VM and say please send me a FREE router?

EDIT - Just phoned told me £40 for a router, pointed mt to T&Cs online

Free wireless router offer: - Wireless enabled equipment required. Available to all new Broadband customers taking our Size: L and Size: XL Broadband services (subject to status and credit checks). A non-refundable, one time service charge of £40 will apply to all new Broadband customers taking our Size: M Broadband service and all existing Broadband customers taking the wireless router. Should you sign up to our Size: L or Size: XL Broadband service and subsequently downgrade to Size: M within your minimum contract period you will be required to pay the service charge for the wireless router, currently £40.

Thanks

sstainer
15-07-2008, 15:53
oh yeah forgot to say that part new customers only so they say
as for speeds hmm maybe try other speed tests
ie www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk is one i use often being on upto 20mb
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1216136978&v=4658730
Download Speed: 16480 kbps (2060 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 703 kbps (87.9 KB/sec )

otherwise try the newsgroups say your download speed is not what is supposed to be
curious how is the upload speed

ceedee
15-07-2008, 16:06
Did that still 4MB, bit weird modem results show 10MB yet download is 4MB :(

How else can I sort this being stuck on 4MB?


Turn off your pc, router and modem
Disconnect the ethernet cable that runs from your pc to your router and plug it into your cable modem (so that your pc is wired direct to the modem)
Turn on the modem and wait for a minute (or at least until the leds stop flashing)
Turn on your pc
Close as many applications on your computer as possible, in particular any P2P, streaming or IM programs.
Open your browser and start 2 simultaneous downloads from the VM demo games server (http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/blueyondergames/demos/) plus 2 simultaneous downloads of Zen test files (http://fuller.zen.co.uk/test). That's four file downloads happening at once!
Now add up each of the four download speeds to get your accurate download rate.
Post your combined download speed back here.



So do I just phone VM and say please send me a FREE router?
EDIT - Just phoned told me £40 for a router, pointed mt to T&Cs online

Perhaps southwell meant that he was going to buy it for you!
:naughty:

southwell
15-07-2008, 16:21
Steady :p:

Didn't realise current customers had to pay.

ceedee
15-07-2008, 16:30
Steady :p:
Didn't realise current customers had to pay.

Only joking!
:angel:

Hornet
15-07-2008, 20:29
Upload 483, download 4323

Will now do Ceedee's recommendation and post results

Thanks yet again!

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Now connected direct to PC no router.

Did speed test first just to see and result is :

Download 9840, Upload 482.

So why is my router slowing it down? And how do I solve it?

Cheers

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Router connected back in 4100 download :(

How do I sort my router?

Thanks

---------- Post added at 20:29 ---------- Previous post was at 20:15 ----------

Did it all again 10MB direct to PC.

Belkin FSD5230-4 router introduced 4MB

Why is my router capping my speed?

Thanks

ceedee
15-07-2008, 20:42
Now connected direct to PC no router.

Did speed test first just to see and result is :
Download 9840, Upload 482.

So why is my router slowing it down? And how do I solve it?

Router connected back in 4100 download :(
How do I sort my router?

Very pleased to hear that you've narrowed down the problem!

I get the impression that CF is seeing far more problems involving Belkin routers than other manufacturers lately.
If you've got a Belkin 7230 802.11g wireless/cable router version 7, you should read this first (http://www.virginmedia.com/help/belkin.php).

I'm afraid that I can only offer two other suggestions:

1) Take a note of all the relevant settings in your router (LAN IP addresses, DNS servers, DHCP server settings, any port redirections, firewall settings, etc), then disconnect from your pc and do a factory reset. (Check your router's manual for instructions -- often you need to poke a tiny hole with a fine wire.)
It's probably wise to then go through the same power cycle routine that you did before and try to connect to the net without changing any default settings. If you have problems, go back through your router's settings changing them to the ones you've taken note of.

2) If your router is not a 7230 v7, try searching Belkin Support (http://www.belkin.com/uk/support/?lid=en) for your model number and check if there's a firmware update available.

If neither of those ideas corrects your problems you may need to think of buying a new router -- my advice is to avoid the cheaper models and go for "industrial strength", commercial brands (I use a vastly over-specified Draytek Vigor that has never given me any problems). But hopefully other helpful folk will come up with further suggestions.

Good luck!


Edit: Belkin's website is shi^U^U^U in a terrible state!
You'll find plenty of information about your router and links to firmware updates on this page (http://www.belkin.com/support/product/?lid=en&pid=F5D5230-4&scid=220).
You should be able to check for updates via the router's own web-based configuration page accessible via http://192.168.2.1

southwell
15-07-2008, 21:50
Router connected though cable on pc?

Could be wireless channel having loads of interference.

Is the Wan port 10 or 100mbps? If it's 10 that will be your problem.

Cobbydaler
15-07-2008, 21:55
Router connected though cable on pc?

Could be wireless channel having loads of interference.

Is the Wan port 10 or 100mbps? If it's 10 that will be your problem.

The WAN port is 10Base-T on that model...

Hornet
15-07-2008, 21:55
Cheers for all that ceedee.

Done it all, firmware, restore the lot. Still 4MB download via router and 10MB with no router :(

Is it my router that is capped at 4MB then and there is no way to sort it?

I only use my router for xbox360 live about once a month!

If no one can help me get my router up to 10MB what is the best buy.

Ideally I would like a router that plugs and plays (as you can tell I have no idea how to set anything up PC wise!!)

If I go wireless (is that best option?) do I need to buy something to stick in back of 360 and PC to pick up net?

Also I am thinking of getting a laptop soon so presume wireless is best, what do I need to get that online with router?

Thanks again...hopefully someone can solve my current router problem bit unreal that it is stuck at 4MB!!!?

southwell
15-07-2008, 21:58
The WAN port is 10Base-T on that model...
I would say that would be a strong possibility then.

Hornet
15-07-2008, 22:02
Model is F5D5230-4. It is wired. Says 10/100BT on box?

Is 4MB download its MAX then?

southwell
15-07-2008, 22:04
10/100 will be the LAN ports, not the WAN port in this case. You wont see 10mb on there for sure. Most routers you buy nowadays will have simple setup guides on them. All new routers will have 100mb WAN ports.
I prefere Belkin personally but others prefere Netgear and Linksys. You pays your money etc etc :)

Cobbydaler
15-07-2008, 22:06
Model is F5D5230-4. It is wired. Says 10/100BT on box?

Is 4MB download its MAX then?

The 4 wired LAN ports are 100, the WAN port which connects to the modem is 10...

Hornet
15-07-2008, 22:10
So is that is 100% router cannot go beyond 4MB?

So is wireless or wired best and anyone recommend one that plugs and plays with a 360, PC and laptop.

What do I need if wireless for 360 and laptop?

Once again cheers all, at least I think I now finally understand...my router is useless :(

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Can I buy the VM supplied £40 one in the shops for the same price and is that one any good?

What model is it? Thanks

southwell
15-07-2008, 22:11
Yes, new router time.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0970752404.121615611 3@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiadeejdddledcflgceggdhhmdgmk.0&page=Product&fm=13&sm=1&tm=1&sku=886496&category_oid=

Something like that will be perfect for the average home user. You can plug xbox, pc, laptop etc directly into it or wirelessly.
The Xbox will requires the wireless adaptor though. Keep cabled wherever possible.

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---------- Post added at 22:10 ---------- Previous post was at 22:06 ----------

Can I buy the VM supplied £40 one in the shops for the same price and is that one any good?

What model is it? Thanks
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0970752404.121615611 3@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiadeejdddledcflgceggdhhmdgmk.0&page=Product&fm=13&sm=1&tm=1&sku=951446&category_oid=-28361

Works fine for me.

Cobbydaler
15-07-2008, 22:17
Yes, new router time.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0970752404.121615611 3@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiadeejdddledcflgceggdhhmdgmk.0&page=Product&fm=13&sm=1&tm=1&sku=886496&category_oid=

Something like that will be perfect for the average home user. You can plug xbox, pc, laptop etc directly into it or wirelessly.
The Xbox will requires the wireless adaptor though. Keep cabled wherever possible.

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http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0970752404.121615611 3@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiadeejdddledcflgceggdhhmdgmk.0&page=Product&fm=13&sm=1&tm=1&sku=951446&category_oid=-28361

Works fine for me.

If you go for the 7230 make sure you upgrade to the latest firmware.

Previous versions had issues... Link (http://www.virginmedia.com/help/belkin.php)

whydoIneedatech
15-07-2008, 22:25
Netgear WGR614UK Wireless 54G Cable Router

From Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_ce/203-2585770-5423143?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=Netgear+WGR614UK+Wireless+54G+Cable+Route r+&x=17&y=19

ceedee
15-07-2008, 22:54
Cheers for all that ceedee.
Done it all, firmware, restore the lot. Still 4MB download via router and 10MB with no router :(
Is it my router that is capped at 4MB then and there is no way to sort it?

From what the others here have found, your router -- while theoretically capable of handling 10Mb/s -- is probably so old that, in reality, it can't cope with those speeds.
Time for a new one, I'm afraid.

I only use my router for xbox360 live about once a month!
If no one can help me get my router up to 10MB what is the best buy.
Ideally I would like a router that plugs and plays (as you can tell I have no idea how to set anything up PC wise!!)

If I go wireless (is that best option?) do I need to buy something to stick in back of 360 and PC to pick up net?
Also I am thinking of getting a laptop soon so presume wireless is best, what do I need to get that online with router?

Almost all routers now allow 4 x wired plus wireless connections -- you want one advertised as either an 802.11g (up to about 19Mb/s) or 802.11n (30Mb/s+). When looking for a laptop (again, almost all laptops now include a built-in wifi adapter), just check that it too can handle the wireless speeds your new router can process.

I'm not a gamer but I believe to play your 360 online wirelessly, you'll need one of (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-Wireless-Bridge-Required-Online/dp/B000AYTQ7O) these (http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/719752/Official-XBox-360-Wireless-Adaptor/Product.html).

I'm hesitant to suggest which router is best -- whatever that means! -- there are so many to choose from with all sorts of features. If you've got a mate or colleague who might help you if something goes wrong, it could be a good idea to get whatever they're already using...

And you could do worse than to pay VM £40 for their locked version (http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/wireless.html) of a reliable Netgear model as, theoretically, they'll offer some level of support in the future (tho' they won't necessarily help with wireless problems unless you're also using one of their wireless adapters -- a ridiculous idea, given the number of built-in products around!).

Whatever you choose, don't go for the cheapest option -- kit is cheap for a reason. You'll be using it every day for years -- it's worth forking out a few extra quid for proven reliability!

Hornet
16-07-2008, 06:16
So if I go for Netgear WGR614UK Wireless 54G Cable Router

I can still connect the PC and 360 with wires? But if needed I can go wireless too?

Also this one will 100% work at 10MB download and plug and play?

Thanks again

Just thought I understand the £54 xbox wireless adaptor. So with the netgear router what needs to be added to that or the laptop for it to work wireless? I shall wire my PC and 360 to it, IT WILL TAKE CABLES I USE NOW, WON'T IT? Do I have to buy something for the laptop or is that all auto if it is wi-fi laptop?

Thanks yet again

takisawa
16-07-2008, 08:44
Your XBox360 & PC will plug into the ethernet ports on the new router using the same cables that you have at the moment. A new laptop, assuming it has WiFi (and pretty much any new laptop will), will also connect to the new router through the wireless connection without you needing to buy any further equipment.

gus0898uk
16-07-2008, 10:05
First post for a long time guys, the mods told me I needed to make a post so here goes, I am not overly PC savvy.:dunce:

I have VM BB £25pm, live near Leicester and have been pretty happy for a number of years with the service, my modem is the NTL 100 which as far as I can remember I use ethernet.:dunce:

I see that I now get 10mb? instead of 4 so I did a speed test and found I was getting around 9.75 download and .5 upload? which I believe is quite good.

Now I didn't really notice any difference from 4 to 10, should I have done?
Do I need to reboot my modem if so How?:dunce:
TIA

sstainer
16-07-2008, 10:10
Now I didn't really notice any difference from 4 to 10, should I have done?
Do I need to reboot my modem if so How?:dunce:
TIA

switch off the power is way to reboot it ushally say 1min off ample

southwell
16-07-2008, 10:21
So if I go for Netgear WGR614UK Wireless 54G Cable Router

I can still connect the PC and 360 with wires? But if needed I can go wireless too?

Also this one will 100% work at 10MB download and plug and play?

Thanks again

Just thought I understand the £54 xbox wireless adaptor. So with the netgear router what needs to be added to that or the laptop for it to work wireless? I shall wire my PC and 360 to it, IT WILL TAKE CABLES I USE NOW, WON'T IT? Do I have to buy something for the laptop or is that all auto if it is wi-fi laptop?

Thanks yet again

When you connect it you will go through a setup procedure, this will configure your wireless etc. They really are very simple if you follow the instructions.
I run wires wherever i can, only my laptop is wireless as my router is under my tv for my ps3, 360 and wii :)
Is you laptop wifi? What is it? Make/model....

Hornet
16-07-2008, 19:18
Haven't puchased the laptop yet. So I can ensure that is wi-fi.

With wireless is it password protected to stop othrs using my BB? Is this easy to deal with on Netgear router?

My BB modem is Ambit NTL Home 120 I take it that will work with Netgear? Its a silver one.

Also the netgear router will not interfere with my TV digisender will it?

Thanks

Hornet
16-07-2008, 22:11
Anyone using the 'Netgear WGR614UK Wireless 54G Cable Router' with xbox360 and a TV digisender and of course a modem like mine the ambit NTL Home 120?

Just want to make sure it will all work before I make the purchase.

Thanks yet again.

southwell
16-07-2008, 22:46
I don't know any laptop that wont come with wifi anymore.

You can change the channel on the router or on the digisender if you get problems.

With the security on the router set it to WPA and then you can choose a passcode. It will all be in the manual.

ceedee
16-07-2008, 23:57
Haven't puchased the laptop yet. So I can ensure that is wi-fi.

With wireless is it password protected to stop othrs using my BB? Is this easy to deal with on Netgear router?

My BB modem is Ambit NTL Home 120 I take it that will work with Netgear? Its a silver one.

Also the netgear router will not interfere with my TV digisender will it?

Have a read of some of the articles on VM's Wireless Help page (http://www.virginmedia.com/help/wireless/) to get a better idea of how wireless networking works?

Unless somebody posts to the contrary, I'd reckon that your Ambit 120 will be capable of handling 10Mb/s and that it's your (pretty old) Belkin (non-wireless) router that's causing the problems. And if that's not right, it'll only mean getting a new (free) modem from VM.

(I'm not sure on what frequencies your TV digisender operates but I've only ever heard of wifi conflicting with DECT phones.)

Hornet
17-07-2008, 06:27
Cheers.

Anyone else know if my ambit 120 is OK with 10MB and netgear above router?

Also can the wireless part be turned off, if all I am doing at first is connecting PC and 360 with wires? As I don't need the wireless part yet.

Thanks again

whydoIneedatech
17-07-2008, 09:05
Cheers.

Anyone else know if my ambit 120 is OK with 10MB and netgear above router?

Also can the wireless part be turned off, if all I am doing at first is connecting PC and 360 with wires? As I don't need the wireless part yet.

Thanks again

I would call Tech Support and ask about getting your modem replaced as it is getting tired and struggle at 10Mb, a lot of agents will replace these modems automatically, I would.

For help with your TV or Phone and for Broadband Technical Support:

Call Product Support/Faults on 151 from your Virgin Media Phone. It's absolutely free.

Or call 0845 454 1111 from any other phone line.

takisawa
17-07-2008, 09:39
Hornet...you sound even more confused now than when you first posted...!!!

1). Call 151 & ask them if your modem is suitable for 10mb Broadband. I suspect that it will struggle, but they should be able to tell you. The modem will be free anyway so you have nothing to lose. You say that its showing 10mb when the pc is connected straight into the modem so it might be ok after all.

2). Also ask them about the possibility of a free wireless router. (Some people have been lucky enough to get one...!!!) If they wont give you one for free you could pay for the Virgin Media one. I think it costs about £40 which is a fairly reasonable price. I gather that they are modified so that they will only work on Virgin Media but thats not really an issue for you.

3). If you would rather just buy your own router then the Netgear one you have been mentioning will be fine with the equipment you have & also any wireless laptop that you might buy in the future. There are two types of wireless router..."ADSL" for use with broadband over normal telephone lines, and "DSL" for use on cable services. They are different so you have to ensure you buy the right one. Obviously you want a "DSL" model as your on cable.

5). Your XBox360 & your desk-top pc will plug into the ethernet ports on the router the same as they are on your current router, using the same cables. If you buy a new wireless laptop that will connect to the wireless connection on the router. The router will have a security system that you can set-up to stop other people using your connection. Its fairly easy to do so don't worry. The router will have a settings page that you access simply by entering 192.168.0.1 in your internet browser. From here you can set-up the security. You can also disable the wireless signal until you buy a laptop if that is what you want to do.

Hornet
17-07-2008, 19:14
Got the Netgear WGR614 all works fine. 10MB download :)

The 192.168.0.1 doesn't work so how do I access the set up stuff?

Thanks

southwell
17-07-2008, 19:25
Go to start > run (if on Vista press and hold windows key and hit r)
Type cmd
ipconfig

The address to access the router software is your gateway.

Hornet
17-07-2008, 21:35
Had to do it through www.routerlogin.com

Latest problem is it says I should update firmware to 1.9, so I do this as per instructions but when I go to upload it to router by selecting the downloaded 1.9 file it says you are running 1.8 and wish to upgrade to the same 1.8.

No mention of the actual 1.9 I have downloaded and attempting to do.

Any ideas?

Cheers

---------- Post added at 21:35 ---------- Previous post was at 20:01 ----------

Thanks again to all who helped, everything working fine.

The only thing I can't understand is why it won't update the firmware as described above. Anyone else tried this on a netgear WGR614?

Cheers

whydoIneedatech
17-07-2008, 22:51
Got the Netgear WGR614 all works fine. 10MB download :)

The 192.168.0.1 doesn't work so how do I access the set up stuff?

Thanks


open a browser page and put into the address bar 192.168.1.1 which will take you directly into the configuration pages of the router and just follow the links.

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Had to do it through www.routerlogin.com (http://www.routerlogin.com)

Latest problem is it says I should update firmware to 1.9, so I do this as per instructions but when I go to upload it to router by selecting the downloaded 1.9 file it says you are running 1.8 and wish to upgrade to the same 1.8.

No mention of the actual 1.9 I have downloaded and attempting to do.

Any ideas?

Cheers

---------- Post added at 21:35 ---------- Previous post was at 20:01 ----------

Thanks again to all who helped, everything working fine.

The only thing I can't understand is why it won't update the firmware as described above. Anyone else tried this on a netgear WGR614?

Cheers

The VirginMedia supplied Netgear router cannot be flashed as it has embedded VirginMedia firmware in it.

Hornet
18-07-2008, 06:17
Its not a VM supplied one.

Its all still working and 10MB :)

This forum has been great in getting me up and running so easily. Thanks to all those who went out of their way to write long helpful posts and the PMs

southwell
18-07-2008, 07:50
Not sure about the firmware problem as i use a Virgin Media router, although if it is running well then i wouldn't particularly worry about it.
Have you set your security to WPA(2)? You can get away with just setting your security and leaving it, as long as people cannot get into your system.
Another way you could do it is connect everything up then stop it broadcasting the SSID, then others outside then network wont even see the network ;)

Cobbydaler
18-07-2008, 15:13
Had to do it through www.routerlogin.com (http://www.routerlogin.com)

Latest problem is it says I should update firmware to 1.9, so I do this as per instructions but when I go to upload it to router by selecting the downloaded 1.9 file it says you are running 1.8 and wish to upgrade to the same 1.8.

No mention of the actual 1.9 I have downloaded and attempting to do.

Any ideas?

Cheers

---------- Post added at 21:35 ---------- Previous post was at 20:01 ----------

Thanks again to all who helped, everything working fine.

The only thing I can't understand is why it won't update the firmware as described above. Anyone else tried this on a netgear WGR614?

Cheers

What version of the 614 is it? There isn't a 1.8 or 1.9 firmware version quoted anywhere amongst these (http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WGR614.asp)...

Hornet
19-07-2008, 07:21
Thats weird. I have the V9 one and the software is that July 1.18 one, but when the router loads up and check for updates it finds 1.19, downloads it and then when I choose install it calls it 1.18 and say you already have 1.18.

This is the only problem so far. I even got my PSP browser to go online wireless.

I signed up to Playstation network got a user name and p/word, but when I try it on Knillzone it says not recognised. Could this be failing because its an Asia PSP, as thats the only thing I can think of?

Thanks

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Just to check are these all right now :-

Downstream Receive Power Level : 4.44 dBmv
Downstream SNR : 35.39 dB
Upstream Transmit Power Level : 49.00 dBmv

What should the above be?

My speed test

UP 483
DOWN 9865
PING 137 - What is this meant to be?

Cheers

whydoIneedatech
19-07-2008, 07:44
Thats weird. I have the V9 one and the software is that July 1.18 one, but when the router loads up and check for updates it finds 1.19, downloads it and then when I choose install it calls it 1.18 and say you already have 1.18.

This is the only problem so far. I even got my PSP browser to go online wireless.

I signed up to Playstation network got a user name and p/word, but when I try it on Knillzone it says not recognised. Could this be failing because its an Asia PSP, as thats the only thing I can think of?

Thanks

---------- Post added at 07:21 ---------- Previous post was at 07:07 ----------

Just to check are these all right now :-

Downstream Receive Power Level : 4.44 dBmv
Downstream SNR : 35.39 dB
Upstream Transmit Power Level : 49.00 dBmv

What should the above be?

My speed test

UP 483
DOWN 9865
PING 137 - What is this meant to be?

Cheers
Your power levels are within normal operational parameters for your connection and you are on 10Mb.

Hornet
19-07-2008, 09:08
Thanks I am well happy that everything is working with my BB :)

If only I could sort out my Asia PSP to play online :(