new 20mbit user [Archive]

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 17:24

Hi,

Today i have upgraded to the 20mbit from the 2mbit on speed tests it says the avarage is about 14mbit when i download from microsoft i get 10mbit i cant do the things it says on the vm website as i have vista not xp and they say the tweaks on xp dont make much difference with vista, so if i disconnect my router Belkin N1 i read on other threads this helps but when i disconnect the router and plug through ethernet to the modem only the internet does not work at all how can i make it work with just the modem? ispends ages identifying then says local only

TIA

zing_deleted

13-06-2008, 17:25

reboot the modem before you try it on its own

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 17:57

a ok so it has to be rebooted before it works without the router, thnx i will try that now, i was using the speedtest site on here but it doesent have upload speed, whats another god speed test site that shows upload speed also?

---------- Post added at 19:57 ---------- Previous post was at 19:33 ----------

reboot the modem before you try it on its own

thnx for that

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:54:49 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 431 ms = 2375.9 KB/sec, approx 19577 Kbps, 19.12 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 427 ms = 2398.1 KB/sec, approx 19760 Kbps, 19.3 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 427 ms = 2398.1 KB/sec, approx 19760 Kbps, 19.3 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 2547 ms = 804.1 KB/sec, approx 6626 Kbps, 6.47 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 16431 Kbps, 16.05 Mbp

I wonder why the router slows it down so much

whydoIneedatech

13-06-2008, 18:06

a ok so it has to be rebooted before it works without the router, thnx i will try that now, i was using the speedtest site on here but it doesent have upload speed, whats another god speed test site that shows upload speed also?

---------- Post added at 19:57 ---------- Previous post was at 19:33 ----------

thnx for that

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:54:49 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 431 ms = 2375.9 KB/sec, approx 19577 Kbps, 19.12 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 427 ms = 2398.1 KB/sec, approx 19760 Kbps, 19.3 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 427 ms = 2398.1 KB/sec, approx 19760 Kbps, 19.3 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 2547 ms = 804.1 KB/sec, approx 6626 Kbps, 6.47 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 16431 Kbps, 16.05 Mbp

I wonder why the router slows it down so much

www.speedtest.net (http://www.speedtest.net) and www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk (http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk) are 2 that I use.

I only use them to get an idea of how my connection is performing.

MovedGoalPosts

13-06-2008, 18:09

Check your router has the latest firmware on it. That can improve reliability.

I'm always sceptical of speed tests. Many will be affected by general internet congestion, rather than just our local bandwidth issues. Worst, many just do not use large enough files for the downloads at the higher speeds to stablise. You'll often get a more accurate measure by downloading a decent size application from a Virgin Media based server.

Nemeth

13-06-2008, 18:11

Most of the time you won't be able to max out your 20mb connection with a single download, also the file sizes used by most speed test sites aren't enough to fully test your connection - they can spend more time establishing a connection than actually transferring the file. The best way to test download speeds properly is with multiple concurrent connections to a good source and monitoring how much bandwidth you're using.

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 18:33

thnx for the replies, removing the router seems to has helped a lot from 10mbit i am getting constant 20mbit

I have belkin N1 router, how do i enter the setup upgrade the software so i can connect with wireless?

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 18:37

the attached pic is my download from VM game site i get that speeds on microsoft to, but i havent tried other sites yet. i fi can get the router to accept the 20mbit that would be better, how do i upgrade the firmware?

---------- Post added at 20:37 ---------- Previous post was at 20:34 ----------

www.speedtest.net (http://www.speedtest.net) and www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk (http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk) are 2 that I use.

I only use them to get an idea of how my connection is performing.

thnx for the sites they show 20meg also with 768kbit upload, is thast normal upload for the 20meg?

r00t

13-06-2008, 18:41

Yes.
See your router website on upgrading firmware.
Or just google it ;)
http://web.belkin.com/support/download/downloaddetails.asp?lang=1&download=1064

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 19:11

sstainer

13-06-2008, 19:39

Description: Utility to allow firmware upgrade in Win2K and WinXP : i use vista will it be ok?

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Firmware Info.
There is no new firmware update available for this Router!

does that mean my router sucks and i should buy a new one? does it make a difference if i use wireless? does that slow things down?

all that means is that the firmware on it is of latest or final[maybe?] release
in english this means its updated as far as it can be

also try
the TCP Optimizer

http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

also there your see other interesting tips / suggestions

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 19:47

thnx for the link, i just installed it so reboot and see if it helps, if not ill probably just end up using without router to have constant 20megs :)

Angry@VMedia

13-06-2008, 19:49

thnx for the link, i just installed it so reboot and see if it helps, if not ill probably just end up using without router to have constant 20megs :)

If you do choose to ditch your router, I'd gladly take it off your hands lol!
The BT HomeHub Im using at the moment is pretty pants!

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 19:59

i like it for the fact it has wireless and the range is good but if its going to give me 10mbit from my 20 i think id be better off without iit

sstainer

13-06-2008, 20:41

wonder if did see any difference after using the optimizer first time i used it i saw a change in my speeds , but do note they vary from hour to hour

Nicosia

13-06-2008, 20:56

Nicosia

14-06-2008, 02:30

the same, i optimized it and with the router i get 10mbit, without full 20, must be the belkin router

whydoIneedatech

14-06-2008, 08:41

the same, i optimized it and with the router i get 10mbit, without full 20, must be the belkin router

I find that my own PC hard wired through my router ( D-Link 524 ) gets 20Mb and my daughters wireless laptop gets around 7Mb using a 54Mbps router, if we needed better speeds for her laptop I would look towards getting a 125Mbps router, maybe that could be what you require.

oliver1948uk

14-06-2008, 10:33

Wireless through a Linksys WRT54G router to a computer running Vista:

Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:31:46 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 441 ms = 2322 KB/sec, approx 19133 Kbps, 18.68 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 424 ms = 2415.1 KB/sec, approx 19900 Kbps, 19.43 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 435 ms = 2354 KB/sec, approx 19397 Kbps, 18.94 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 860 ms = 2381.4 KB/sec, approx 19623 Kbps, 19.16 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 19513 Kbps, 19.05 Mbps

frogstamper

14-06-2008, 20:18

i used the optimizer but ive been capped and speed tests show 5mbits with and without the router, so i have to wait 5 hours and then check, i dident even realise i had downloaded 5GB or 3GB sorry but ive been dling non stop files to do speed tests lol i installed du meter now

I'm sure I've read somewhere that the TCP optimiser doesn't make any difference on Vista, I've just spent 30mins browsing trying to find the link but so far no luck, personally I'd uninstall it. If anyone does know the link please can you post it, thanks.

whydoIneedatech

14-06-2008, 20:37

I'm sure I've read somewhere that the TCP optimiser doesn't make any difference on Vista, I've just spent 30mins browsing trying to find the link but so far no luck, personally I'd uninstall it. If anyone does know the link please can you post it, thanks.

You could try this below if you are on XP it is not compatible with Vista

Then the link to the Speedguide site

www.speedguide.net.

Or the link direct to the Optimiser.

http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

FAQ link http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in.php?category=100

How do I uninstall the TCP Optimizer ? http://www.speedguide.net/images/spacer_01.gif The SG TCP Optimizer does not need to be installed or uninstalled. . In order In order to remove it completely from your system, simply delete the executable file TCPOptimizer.exe and that's it. Note you might also want to delete any backup files you created with it (with .spg extension) from its directory.

The program does not copy any file in any Windows (http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php?category=100&qid=46#) directory, and it does not appear in the "Add/Remove Programs" section of Control Panel.

Note: To revert any changes made to your system using the TCP Optimizer, go in its "File" pull-down menu (http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php?category=100&qid=46#)

sstainer

14-06-2008, 21:46

windows vista tweaks at
http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=2574

Nicosia

14-06-2008, 22:43

thnx a lot for your help i did the tweaks thing for vista home premium, isent it the router though not the lap top? because when its just the modem plugged in i get 20megs

sstainer

15-06-2008, 09:06

if its your router maybe look at a new one?

Druchii

15-06-2008, 10:00

It's the router.

Wireless will indeed slow your connection down as well. Try a cable to the router if that's possible, if not, look for a new router. You could try a Linksys WRT54G.

Nicosia

15-06-2008, 10:59

thanks so much everyone for your help i will probably buy a router that handles the 20meg speeds, any recomendations on a good router that will take the speeds? and roughly how much will it cost? maybe the Linksys WRT54G as oliver said, the results look good i need one with wireless but the ntl modem doesent let me link more then 1 pc otherwise i would use just that

sstainer

15-06-2008, 12:43

try here see if any of them look good
http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/index.php?cPath=220_222

then maybe look about for it elsewhere argos, maplin etc

Nicosia

15-06-2008, 17:54

turns out it is not the router that is the problem.. i plugged in the ethernet port and now.... its full 20megs i did notthink that connecting by wireless would make me lose 10mbit the router is right here next to me :S

Richy99

15-06-2008, 18:38

what wireless adapter are you using?

Nicosia

15-06-2008, 18:53

802.11a/b/g WLAN its on the lap top acer 9410

Richy99

16-06-2008, 11:36

more likely its the wireless in the laptop that cant handle the speed, i use a belkin N1 usb adapater and dlink 635 N router and easily hit 20meg on wireless

Nicosia

16-06-2008, 12:22

weird! well ill just stick to ethernet the router has more then 1 port so its ok i was sure it was the router i dident thin for a second it could be the wireless from my lap top, never mind, thanks to everyone who helped and posted some very helpfull links :-)

whydoIneedatech

16-06-2008, 20:52