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deathball
11-02-2007, 14:09
I just downloaded a series of file and for some reason they are going extremely fast, well 16mb a second to be exact, I managed to download a 65mb file in 4 seconds, and for those who are skeptics the reason the download box is a little cut off on the right is because i realised my desktop was showing some stuff i didn't want you to see, so i deleted the items re took a screenshot of my desktop and copy and pasted the download box on to the desktop again.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6998/untitled3wj4.th.jpg (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3wj4.jpg)
I have had high speeds before look in this thread. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33603748-hooray-ntl-10mb-page-2.html?highlight=deathball#post34162297
Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:05:10 GMT
1st 512K took 79 ms = 6481 KB/sec, approx 53403 Kbps, 52.15 Mbps
2nd 512K took 187 ms = 2738 KB/sec, approx 22561 Kbps, 22.03 Mbps
3rd 512K took 141 ms = 3631.2 KB/sec, approx 29921 Kbps, 29.22 Mbps
4th 512K took 140 ms = 3657.1 KB/sec, approx 30135 Kbps, 29.43 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 34005 Kbps, 33.21 Mbps
OMG!!! Woot!
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:22:03 GMT
1st 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 141 ms = 3631.2 KB/sec, approx 29921 Kbps, 29.22 Mbps
3rd 512K took 140 ms = 3657.1 KB/sec, approx 30135 Kbps, 29.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 27278 Kbps, 26.64 Mbps
Tried Again to make sure I wasn't being messed around:
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:22:49 GMT
1st 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
3rd 512K took 187 ms = 2738 KB/sec, approx 22561 Kbps, 22.03 Mbps
4th 512K took 141 ms = 3631.2 KB/sec, approx 29921 Kbps, 29.22 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 25385 Kbps, 24.79 Mbps
And one more just incase:
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:24:44 GMT
1st 512K took 187 ms = 2738 KB/sec, approx 22561 Kbps, 22.03 Mbps
2nd 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
3rd 512K took 157 ms = 3261.1 KB/sec, approx 26871 Kbps, 26.24 Mbps
4th 512K took 171 ms = 2994.2 KB/sec, approx 24672 Kbps, 24.09 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 24658 Kbps, 24.08 Mbps
---------- Post added at 22:28 ---------- Previous post was at 22:22 ----------
Just an update:
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:27:46 GMT
1st 512K took 110 ms = 4654.5 KB/sec, approx 38353 Kbps, 37.45 Mbps
2nd 512K took 95 ms = 5389.5 KB/sec, approx 44409 Kbps, 43.37 Mbps
3rd 512K took 141 ms = 3631.2 KB/sec, approx 29921 Kbps, 29.22 Mbps
4th 512K took 141 ms = 3631.2 KB/sec, approx 29921 Kbps, 29.22 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 35651 Kbps, 34.82 Mbps
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:30:37 GMT
1st 512K took 94 ms = 5446.8 KB/sec, approx 44882 Kbps, 43.83 Mbps
2nd 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
3rd 512K took 94 ms = 5446.8 KB/sec, approx 44882 Kbps, 43.83 Mbps
4th 512K took 94 ms = 5446.8 KB/sec, approx 44882 Kbps, 43.83 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 39794 Kbps, 38.86 Mbps
that cant be right
It can be, If he's in an area with the 50mb trial speeds .
50Mb :drool:
bring it on:D
It can be, If he's in an area with the 50mb trial speeds .
no it cant 50 meg is 6 mb/s
16 mb/s is over 120 mb
no it cant 50 meg is 6 mb/s
16 mb/s is over 120 mb
Just checking, did you mean -
no it cant 50 meg is 6 MB/s
16 MB/s is over 120 Mb
??
Just checking, did you mean -
no it cant 50 meg is 6 MB/s
16 MB/s is over 120 Mb
??
u know what i meant.
DarkGashX
11-02-2007, 14:45
And it isn't your cache or anything? :monkey:
deathball
11-02-2007, 14:58
Cleared my cache and stuff so it can't be...
PowerUser
11-02-2007, 15:03
I'll believe you if you Show us a screencap of the config file.
Speedtests are unrealiable and most of them overloaded.
deathball
11-02-2007, 15:05
My speedcap shows 10mb, I don't deny that, I am not here to trick you, I am just getting huge downloads on big files.
fireman328
11-02-2007, 15:14
Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:17:06 UTC
1st 512K took 4359 ms = 117.5 KB/sec, approx 968 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 4953 ms = 103.4 KB/sec, approx 852 Kbps, 0.83 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4344 ms = 117.9 KB/sec, approx 971 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
4th 512K took 4328 ms = 118.3 KB/sec, approx 975 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 942 Kbps, 0.92 Mbps
Its not fair, You have got my share lol
Yes lets see your modem config please :)
PS What were you trying to hide on desktop?
Pr0n?
:D
janipewter
11-02-2007, 15:52
Erm, fake? That screenshot shows over Fast Ethernet (128Mbps infact), as far as I know all SACM's and STB's distributed by ntl and Telewest only have Fast Ethernet LAN.
DarkGashX
11-02-2007, 15:54
I know the blue 250 can only take 28Mb or 46Mb max one or the other don't remember.
janipewter
11-02-2007, 15:55
Even then, I doubt his router's WAN can take any more than Fast Ethernet, if even that.
As far as I know too, DOCSIS 1.0 is only capable of a maximum downstream rate of 38Mbps.
DarkGashX
11-02-2007, 15:56
My router has 1Gb LANS and a 100Mb WAN.
Show us the config file please, i do believe you though...
.. thats friggin awesome!!!!!
Even then, I doubt his router's WAN can take any more than Fast Ethernet, if even that.
As far as I know too, DOCSIS 1.0 is only capable of a maximum downstream rate of 38Mbps.
are ntl not using DOCSIS 2.0? or am i mistaken?
janipewter
11-02-2007, 16:13
are ntl not using DOCSIS 2.0? or am i mistaken?
They could well be but DOCSIS 2.0 is also only capable of 38Mbps downstream, though it is capable of faster upstream than DOCSIS 1.0.
They could well be but DOCSIS 2.0 is also only capable of 38Mbps downstream, though it is capable of faster upstream than DOCSIS 1.0.
Which means they're going to have to upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 before 50Mbps is launched...
... sometimes its possible for there to be a surge but if you look at his speedtest, most of the results are or very close to 38Mbps anyway
Deathball, what part of Manchester are you in?
greyfox1974
11-02-2007, 17:15
dearthball can i ask if ur running zonearlam ?????????
deathball
11-02-2007, 17:28
Yes lets see your modem config please :)
PS What were you trying to hide on desktop?
Pr0n?
:D
You caught me :P
I said in one of my earlier posts that it only shows a 10mb config on my modem page.
I am in whitefield area of manchester, just south of Bury.
No I am not running zone alarm.
Nevermind1994
11-02-2007, 17:47
This cannot be right... The data has to be cached on your local machine to be reaching those speeds.... This is an example if that was the case;
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7472/downloadgl1.png
All you are seeing there is the time it takes to copy the file from the temporary files to the download directory....
deathball
11-02-2007, 17:57
Guys I know what is cached and what isn't, I am a qualified computer engineer and it was not cached.
Nevermind1994
11-02-2007, 18:10
Sorry but there is no way you can download a file from the internet and save it to your harddrive that quickly unless it is either cached on your computer or you are saving it from a web server on your network. Even a 100meg connection couldnt do it that quickly!
TBH, what kind of source could have that sort of upload bandwidth for you to download from ?
your own LAN perhaps :)
You'll forgive me for being unconvinced when you have removed patches of the image :P
Not to mention the fact that if I leave something to download before I choose to save it someplace it claims absurd speeds :)
janipewter
11-02-2007, 19:19
Sorry but there is no way you can download a file from the internet and save it to your harddrive that quickly unless it is either cached on your computer or you are saving it from a web server on your network. Even a 100meg connection couldnt do it that quickly!
Uh, yes it can, the data rate of SATA-II is high enough to handle even gigabit LAN speeds.
It is possible as i've said to get a surge in speed, its happened to me before and the file wasn't cache.
When i download files from YouTubeX.com sometimes the file downloads at like 10.6MB/s or 20.6MB/s its happened in the past.
Nevermind1994
11-02-2007, 19:38
Uh, yes it can, the data rate of SATA-II is high enough to handle even gigabit LAN speeds.
He is downloading at 128Mb/s how would a 100mb connection go that fast? I diddn't even mention hard drive speeds.
janipewter
11-02-2007, 19:45
Sorry but there is no way you can download a file from the internet and save it to your harddrive that quickly unless it is either cached on your computer or you are saving it from a web server on your network
Sorry but I thought you were talking about hard drive write speeds. My mistake.
He is downloading at 128Mb/s how would a 100mb connection go that fast?
Obviously it wouldn't, I've already mentioned that (twice?) already in this thread. It's either edited, or he's doing it over LAN.
Sorry but I thought you were talking about hard drive write speeds. My mistake.
Obviously it wouldn't, I've already mentioned that (twice?) already in this thread. It's either edited, or he's doing it over LAN.
Whats your problem? Why are you so convinced that he is lying or he's edited it?
Why would someone be so sad to edit that or lie about it?
janipewter
11-02-2007, 19:52
No problem here...but how can it be real? First of all, the cable network in this country isn't even DOCSIS3 is it? Therefore, it would not be capable of carrying such speeds. Not to mention I doubt he has a DOCSIS3 modem either, or a router with a gigabit WAN port for that matter.
Whats your problem? Why are you so convinced that he is lying or he's edited it?
Why would someone be so sad to edit that or lie about it?
i duno but it cant be correct the hardware is not physicaly capable of tht both the DOCSIS (either 1 or 2 as mention both only support 38mbps downstream) and even if was on docsis 3 the modem also is not capable of it
i duno but it cant be correct the hardware is not physicaly capable of tht both the DOCSIS (either 1 or 2 as mention both only support 38mbps downstream) and even if was on docsis 3 the modem also is not capable of it
And the fact that the only place we know of doing 50 Meg trails is Ashford, and deathball is actually posting from Manchester (as his profile says), I just checked his IP.
Also, I'd be surprised if anyone on the trial would boast about it, Virgin probably have them under Non-disclosure agreements.
Finally, I don't know why someone would want to make stuff like this up, but I do find it odd that deathball only posts to boast about getting >50 meg speed.
janipewter
11-02-2007, 21:34
Finally, I don't know why someone would want to make stuff like this up.
Neither do I. That's what amazed me.
Whats your problem? Why are you so convinced that he is lying or he's edited it?
Why would someone be so sad to edit that or lie about it?
he didnt say its edited, he's saying it was not downloaded from the internet and that is obvious, even if he's on a 50Mb trial, you cant download at that speed on 50Mb
Look at his speed tests... they are around the 38Mbps mark.
.. look we all cant say anything till he posts the config details
but if he did post this as bullcrap that is pretty sad taking the time to edit stuff and make up speed test results
I heard NTL are trailing 100mbit somewhere
kryogenik
11-02-2007, 21:52
My speedcap shows 10mb, I don't deny that, I am not here to trick you, I am just getting huge downloads on big files.
I believe you mate.
It happened to me ages ago too (getting silly high speeds I mean, not impossible ones!). No-one believed me either.
;)
Only from ONE place though - a server in India. :confused:
But when I'd download a database back-up I'd get consistently high speeds every single time for about a month to two months.
I kept the screen grab anyway.
Download Failed (1) (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sqlka5.jpg)
I appreciate the figures there aren't that impressive these days, however, this was when I was on 1MB and I think the fastest anyone could get was either 2 or 4mb then.
*shrug*
So long ago I can't remember. There was a mention of me possibly being in a trial 10MB area at the time.
One day I rebooted the STB and it all went back to normal.
So, take my advice - don't reboot anything! ;)
janipewter
11-02-2007, 21:56
I heard NTL are trailing 100mbit somewhere
Not with their current equipment they aren't.
I believe you mate.
It happened to me ages ago too. No-one believed me either.
;)
Only from ONE place though - a server in India. :confused:
But when I'd download a database back-up I'd get consistently high speeds every single time for about a month to two months.
I kept the screen grab anyway.
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8863/sqlka5.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sqlka5.jpg)
I appreciate the figures there aren't that impressive these days, however, this was when I was on 1MB and I think the fastest anyone could get was either 2 or 4mb then.
The point that people are making is that pretty much all the modems used by NTL have always been capable of at least 5 meg (even the early ones), so 1.15 or 1.2 meg is not unbelievable.
NTL are not currently issuing any modems (to the public) that are capable of the speeds being quoted, and even if they were, the UBRs and Headends are not capable of these speeds without major upgrades, and without switching off the analogue cable signals.
kryogenik
11-02-2007, 22:06
all the modems used by NTL have always been capable of at least 5 meg (even the early ones), so 1.15 or 1.2 meg is not unbelievable.
Indeed.
My point being is that I wasn't editing pics either, but nobody believed me then. It really was a long time ago.
I was using a Pace 4000i at the time too and was told the NTL system and equipment simply wasn't capable of those speeds yet - same as Mr Deathball is being told here now - and that I must be mistaken/editing pics/making it up/grabbing from a LAN or cache etc.
But now, I'm led to believe it could have been possible after all.
That was my point.
:)
HiroofTime
12-02-2007, 00:08
This is easy to do ffs.
In firefox, which the program he is using, because its the only web browser on the taskbar, click to download a file, but dont press OK yet, Firefox downloads the file anyway in the background in anticipation for saying yes. When you do click yes, it will catch up to the cache that has been downloading in the background waiting for you to say yes, thus seeming like its going 16MB/s.
This only happens with firefox. First time I found this out was about 2 years ago when I downloaded something at 3MB/s a second.
If you don't believe me, go try it.
But when I'd download a database back-up I'd get consistently high speeds every single time for about a month to two months.
SQL database files are highly compressed, and if downloading periodically... they contain much the same data which is why you'll see those speeds.
This is easy to do ffs.
In firefox, which the program he is using, because its the only web browser on the taskbar, click to download a file, but dont press OK yet, Firefox downloads the file anyway in the background in anticipation for saying yes. When you do click yes, it will catch up to the cache that has been downloading in the background waiting for you to say yes, thus seeming like its going 16MB/s.
This only happens with firefox. First time I found this out was about 2 years ago when I downloaded something at 3MB/s a second.
If you don't believe me, go try it.
I've only seen that happen in IE - Firefox has a download manager... which makes it even more odd that the screencap shows an IE download window, but no IE in the taskbar... :dozey:
HiroofTime
12-02-2007, 00:33
I've only seen that happen in IE - Firefox has a download manager... which makes it even more odd that the screencap shows an IE download window, but no IE in the taskbar... :dozey:
Maybe he closed IE but left the download open? But even then, it would still have a DOWNLOAD COMPLETE tab on the taskbar, fake.
He could have had a site running on his LAN and download a file from the 127.0.0.1 site he has, it will run at that speed.
Im sure its LAN.
kryogenik
12-02-2007, 00:45
If you don't believe me, go try it.
I did out of curiostiy, and because I know what you mean.
It didn't work on IE or FF though..
I tried with http://fuller.zen.co.uk/test
Anyway, by the by that.
Just wanted to say, like.
FF began the download before I clicked 'save' but didn't show an increased speed when it began. IE did neither.
SQL database files are highly compressed, and if downloading periodically... they contain much the same data which is why you'll see those speeds.
Thanks - yeah, I know there's high compression involved.
My friend couldn't replicate it though. Downloading same file, same days, also in same area on same connection.
Meh.
I'm certainly not saying I had a quick speed. I wasn't even saying so back then really. I knew there was something not right!
The IE box and Mozilla Start Page on the taskbar are a telling story perhaps.
I dunno. Bit of fun in any case.
:)
Guess we'll have to wait and see when he replies.
Nevermind1994
12-02-2007, 01:27
There is a easy way to get internet explorer to report these speeds... Try it and see... I used IE7.
1. Go to http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/blueyondergames/demos/
2. Download a file
3. Once completed dont close box but download the same file again and save to different directory.
4. This time it will just download the file from your temp directory and you'll get the times for copying a file across your local HD.
Heres what happened when i did it....
Download Failed (1) (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=downloaduv1.jpg)
The thing that confuses me is the fact that it should have a "download complete" box in the taskbar like my screenshot, this also leads me to believe that he edited it also....
here is what I mean
A simple 40mb file, big speed on LAN/same PC
www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/test1.jpg
Now a larger file, it was around 20MB/s but slowed down when copying the file to HD (since same PC)
www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/test2.jpg
Yes lets see your modem config please :)
PS What were you trying to hide on desktop?
Pr0n?
:D
it was shemale material :D
---------- Post added at 02:34 ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 ----------
here is what I mean
A simple 40mb file, big speed on LAN/same PC
www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/test1.jpg
Now a larger file, it was around 20MB/s but slowed down when copying the file to HD (since same PC)
www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/test2.jpg
yep you have him m8 well done he was a hjoaxer lol :(
DarkGashX
12-02-2007, 02:39
No matter, 50Mb will be here soon :).
janipewter
12-02-2007, 08:22
There is a easy way to get internet explorer to report these speeds... Try it and see... I used IE7.
1. Go to http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/blueyondergames/demos/
2. Download a file
3. Once completed dont close box but download the same file again and save to different directory.
4. This time it will just download the file from your temp directory and you'll get the times for copying a file across your local HD.
Heres what happened when i did it....
Download Failed (1) (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=downloaduv1.jpg)
The thing that confuses me is the fact that it should have a "download complete" box in the taskbar like my screenshot, this also leads me to believe that he edited it also....
The first time you downloaded it, the file was cached, the second time you downloaded it the only reason it took a few seconds was because it was copying it from the temporary files to the actual download location.
Though you probably know that (sorry if I'm making you look like an idiot), but the guy did specifically state that it wasn't cached.
deathball
12-02-2007, 08:28
Look guys, you either beleive me or not, to be honest I am not really bothered, i am not that sad like some people to sit there for an hour and edit a image just to get recognition.
As I have said from my first post my modem config shows 10mb and I have never denied that, sorry guys but I thought you would think it is pretty cool but obviously not.
dcclanuk
12-02-2007, 09:25
Look guys, you either beleive me or not, to be honest I am not really bothered, i am not that sad like some people to sit there for an hour and edit a image just to get recognition.
As I have said from my first post my modem config shows 10mb and I have never denied that, sorry guys but I thought you would think it is pretty cool but obviously not.
i believe u mate!
in the days of ADSL where 2mb was the max people could get, my friend had tampered with the BT phone socket for some weird reason:confused: Then he started getting crazy download speeds! he would download 20mb files in under 10 secs...[I witnessed it].. I asked him to download different things off that site, and most of them had a very quick speed! Dont know why it was that site only, but it does happen. I dont know if that happened again after, but basically IT IS POSSIBLE!
kryogenik
12-02-2007, 11:06
Look guys, you either beleive me or not, to be honest I am not really bothered, i am not that sad like some people to sit there for an hour and edit a image just to get recognition.
As I have said from my first post my modem config shows 10mb and I have never denied that, sorry guys but I thought you would think it is pretty cool but obviously not.
Can you download one of these and see how fast you go, and do a screen grab of the download box?
http://fuller.zen.co.uk/test/
Can you tell us if you use IE or FF, and if IE, how come there was no IE tab on your taskbar but your grab shows an IE box?
Because people have issues with these things, the main issue of your speed is being clouded?
C
Can you tell us if you use IE or FF, and if IE, how come there was no IE tab on your taskbar but your grab shows an IE box?
Because people have issues with these things, the main issue of your speed is being clouded?
it is IE and you dont have to have IE open, which would show in the taskbar, when downloading a file and the unticked close when finished box will be present when download is complete, nothing sinister there it is how IE works
Look guys, you either beleive me or not, to be honest I am not really bothered, i am not that sad like some people to sit there for an hour and edit a image just to get recognition.
As I have said from my first post my modem config shows 10mb and I have never denied that, sorry guys but I thought you would think it is pretty cool but obviously not.
Here is why most dont, because you blocked out the download server you got from.
So what if you have porn or you were downloading it, you have shareaza on your desktop anyway (btw good luck not getting virii from that service).
Another problem is your tests you quoted, the funny thing is there is some repeated and exactly the same speeds, nothing is always that exact. Which kinda suggests a copy and paste job.
kryogenik
12-02-2007, 12:29
it is IE and you dont have to have IE open, which would show in the taskbar, when downloading a file and the unticked close when finished box will be present when download is complete, nothing sinister there it is how IE works
:rolleyes:
And the lack of "download complete" in the taskbar is explained how?
Download Failed (1) (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2coyrq9.jpg)
I am only going to say this once.
BU**SH*T is what i smell :). The 125meg speeds quoted are not possable on a standard UBR.
:rolleyes:
And the lack of "download complete" in the taskbar is explained how?
Download Failed (1) (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2coyrq9.jpg)
by reading his post? he said he made a screenshot that had unwanted things so copied the window, why he couldnt just blank out the things he didnt want us to see, i dont know :p:
from his post:
and for those who are skeptics the reason the download box is a little cut off on the right is because i realised my desktop was showing some stuff i didn't want you to see, so i deleted the items re took a screenshot of my desktop and copy and pasted the download box on to the desktop again.
the only way that speed is possible is either gbit+ lan or from the local IE cache (or other browser cache), afaik no modem has a gbit ethernet port so whereever those speeds came from, it wasn't the modem :p:
kryogenik
12-02-2007, 12:55
by reading his post?
lmao! :sulk:
Where were you a few pages ago! You could have saved us all a load of waffle!
:tu:
Aww. Bless.
I want to believe him all over again now!
;)
and for those who are skeptics the reason the download box is a little cut off on the right is because i realised my desktop was showing some stuff i didn't want you to see,
But we can still see the Bury Football Club wallpaper so we still saw your secret shame... :D
:rolleyes:
And the lack of "download complete" in the taskbar is explained how?
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/592/untitled2coyrq9.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2coyrq9.jpg)
true, i was looking at the other guys image at the time
Nevermind1994
12-02-2007, 14:02
In the end if the image is fake or not is irrelevant because he could not have physically got 128mbs through a cable modem, the port would just not allow these speeds... So there are 2 options here... Either he is trying to fool us on purpose or its cached data and he really hasn't got a clue....
HiroofTime
12-02-2007, 15:16
Look guys, you either beleive me or not, to be honest I am not really bothered, i am not that sad like some people to sit there for an hour and edit a image just to get recognition.
As I have said from my first post my modem config shows 10mb and I have never denied that, sorry guys but I thought you would think it is pretty cool but obviously not.
Deathball, your Modem, Router, PC LAN and Hard drive speeds cannot do the speed it says it did, which contridicts your download. The download window MIGHT appear to say that, but thats not really what happened.
Deathball, your Modem, Router, PC LAN and Hard drive speeds cannot do the speed it says it did, which contridicts your download. The download window MIGHT appear to say that, but thats not really what happened.
I can't comment on network port speeds of various kit, but for one HARD DRIVE speed, expect on file sizes greater than that of available RAM will not be the bottleneck.
Files will be cached into ram, and drive cache before written to the platters of the hard drive. Each of these including the systems buses are all easily capable of the speeds mentioned. When you consider RAM speed is measure on modern computers in thousands of MB/sec...
Only when all the these caches (RAM of various forms) will the hard drive become the bottleneck and limit the overall download speed, but on a WAN interface I'd suspect the connection itself between hosts will be the overall limiting factor.
So really, talking about hard drive x fer is at best, not applicable.
deathball
12-02-2007, 17:05
Deathball, your Modem, Router, PC LAN and Hard drive speeds cannot do the speed it says it did, which contridicts your download. The download window MIGHT appear to say that, but thats not really what happened.
My Lan HDD and Router can take it actually, I have a gigabit Lan Card, my hard drive is SATA II and my router is a http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=6886&category_id=152&manufacturer_id=0
I wish some people would actually read the first post properly, the reason i don't have anything in my taskbar is because I copied the image off the original image because I wanted to hide some stuff I have.
I am running a small network from my connection:
Internet
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Modem
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Server
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Router ---- Wireless Hub
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Desktop 1 --- Desktop 2 --- Desktop 3
*Wiresless Laptop
So don't say that I don't know what I am going on about because to be honest I find it quite offensive.
dcclanuk
12-02-2007, 17:10
My Lan HDD and Router can take it actually, I have a gigabit Lan Card, my hard drive is SATA II and my router is a http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=6886&category_id=152&manufacturer_id=0
I wish some people would actually read the first post properly, the reason i don't have anything in my taskbar is because I copied the image off the original image because I wanted to hide some stuff I have.
I am running a small network from my connection:
Internet
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Modem
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Server
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Router ---- Wireless Hub
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Desktop 1 --- Desktop 2 --- Desktop 3
*Wiresless Laptop
So don't say that I don't know what I am going on about because to be honest I find it quite offensive.
just take another screenie where u dont have to cover much stuff up! that should make ppl believe u:)
Nevermind1994
12-02-2007, 17:17
just take another screenie where u dont have to cover much stuff up! that should make ppl believe u:)
and can u tell us what modem you use? as i diddn't think any that ntl/telewest were supplying had a gigabit port..
Tightscot
12-02-2007, 17:26
My Lan HDD and Router can take it actually, I have a gigabit Lan Card, my hard drive is SATA II and my router is a http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=6886&category_id=152&manufacturer_id=0
So don't say that I don't know what I am going on about because to be honest I find it quite offensive.
technically thats a switch NOT a router, but then you do know what you're going on about....:)
DerekRothwell
12-02-2007, 17:41
It was the file trying to escape from all that Bury FC stuff! Couldn't get away fast enough
My Lan HDD and Router can take it actually, I have a gigabit Lan Card, my hard drive is SATA II and my router is a http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=6886&category_id=152&manufacturer_id=0
I wish some people would actually read the first post properly, the reason i don't have anything in my taskbar is because I copied the image off the original image because I wanted to hide some stuff I have.
I am running a small network from my connection:
Internet
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Modem
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Server
|
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Router ---- Wireless Hub
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Desktop 1 --- Desktop 2 --- Desktop 3
*Wiresless Laptop
So don't say that I don't know what I am going on about because to be honest I find it quite offensive.
To be honest though, all you had to do was use the desktop screeny you had and blank out things, so why cut out the download window only to be put on the same desktop screeny with edited out things lol
Chewbacca lives with Ewoks, Chewbacca is not an Ewok.. It Doesnt make sense!
technically thats a switch NOT a router, but then you do know what you're going on about....:)
LMAO:D
deathball
13-02-2007, 09:39
technically thats a switch NOT a router, but then you do know what you're going on about....:)
It's a router for the simpletons on this site
What's wrong with supporting bury? :)
jellybaby
13-02-2007, 09:42
It's a router for the simpletons on this site
You're really not helping yourself :rolleyes:
He has no idea what a switch is does he lol
deathball
13-02-2007, 15:36
He has no idea what a switch is does he lol
A switch is a device that can connect many different computers at the sametime depending on how many connections it may have, basically the switch remembers what computers it has on it's network, when a packet of data arrives at the switch it re directs it to the correct computer on the network. It redirects the packet of data reducing bandwidth and the chance of clogging the network up. This can be sent at 10, 100, or 1000 megabits per second, mine connects at 1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet over a category 5e cable (with RJ45 connectector), which would be 1000mbps.
dcclanuk
13-02-2007, 15:39
He has no idea what a switch is does he lol
A switch is a device that can connect many different computers at the sametime depending on how many connections it may have, basically the switch remembers what computers it has on it's network, when a packet of data arrives at the switch it re directs it to the correct computer on the network. It redirects the packet of data reducing bandwidth and the chance of clogging the network up. This can be sent at 10, 100, or 1000 megabits per second, mine connects at 1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet over a category 5e cable (with RJ45 connectector), which would be 1000mbps.
I think he does...lol...
[mind u ... i dont:p:]
Nevermind1994
13-02-2007, 16:36
A switch is a device that can connect many different computers at the sametime depending on how many connections it may have, basically the switch remembers what computers it has on it's network, when a packet of data arrives at the switch it re directs it to the correct computer on the network. It redirects the packet of data reducing bandwidth and the chance of clogging the network up. This can be sent at 10, 100, or 1000 megabits per second, mine connects at 1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet over a category 5e cable (with RJ45 connectector), which would be 1000mbps.
Are you saying your cable modem has a 1000 megabit port also?
What cable modem do you have?
DarkGashX
13-02-2007, 16:41
The ntl/virgin modems have 100mbit ports. My pc has 1000mbit but that doesn't matter as my modem doesn't go that fast,
100mbit modem -> 100mbit wan on router -> 1000mbit LAN on router -> 1000mbit on PC.
Nevermind1994
13-02-2007, 16:48
The ntl/virgin modems have 100mbit ports. My pc has 1000mbit but that doesn't matter as my modem doesn't go that fast,
100mbit modem -> 100mbit wan on router -> 1000mbit LAN on router -> 1000mbit on PC.
So with the current hardware supplied by ntl/telewest, speeds over 100mbps are not attainable.... So does this not settle this as the op was claiming speeds of 128mbps.
So with the current hardware supplied by ntl/telewest, speeds over 100mbps are not attainable.... So does this not settle this as the op was claiming speeds of 128mbps.
i thought we established this on page 1? the speed is not possible on the ntl network due to the docsis standard and not possible out of the modem due to being a 100mbit port, therefore the speed is either from the local cache, or the server he is using is running a proxy that also cached it
deathball
13-02-2007, 18:00
For god sake, I wish people would read what I put, I am saying my network that I have set up have a 1000mbps data link between all computers switches and servers. The cable modem doesn't handle more than 40mbps I have never said it has!
A switch is a device that can connect many different computers at the sametime depending on how many connections it may have, basically the switch remembers what computers it has on it's network, when a packet of data arrives at the switch it re directs it to the correct computer on the network. It redirects the packet of data reducing bandwidth and the chance of clogging the network up. This can be sent at 10, 100, or 1000 megabits per second, mine connects at 1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet over a category 5e cable (with RJ45 connectector), which would be 1000mbps.
Close enough.
But do remember that a Switch is not a router. Although they may be similar in operation they are not.
After all a switch is designed for Networks and not net packets solely, you did say your switch was your router, but I cant see how this would possibly work without the other necessary hardware.
A router deals with both WAN and LAN, and look inside TCP packets for traffic management. Switches are primarily designed for wired networks (LAN's) and if to access the net, they require a PC/Mac to be host machine then connected to the switch.
Otherwise a simple Modem > HPNA gateway/Router > switch will work.
---------- Post added at 18:15 ---------- Previous post was at 18:12 ----------
For god sake, I wish people would read what I put, I am saying my network that I have set up have a 1000mbps data link between all computers switches and servers. The cable modem doesn't handle more than 40mbps I have never said it has!
"I just downloaded a series of file and for some reason they are going extremely fast"
Why wouldnt they be going fast on a LAN, which means you were assuming the files were from the net.
Nevermind1994
13-02-2007, 18:15
For god sake, I wish people would read what I put, I am saying my network that I have set up have a 1000mbps data link between all computers switches and servers. The cable modem doesn't handle more than 40mbps I have never said it has!
You stated on in your first screenshot that you had speeds of 128mbps which is over 40mbps... Which is it? It sounds to me like you are back tracking now...
...The cable modem doesn't handle more than 40mbps I have never said it has!What modem are you using? Without getting worked up, are you now conceeding that the file must have been cached?
Just out of interest, there is another way to get apparent high speed downloads. If you cancel the download a couple of seconds before it finishes, then download the same file again, it will carry on from where it left off, but the time will reset to zero, giving ridiculous download speeds.
XFS03 there is no point now, hes been caught out several times.
And whats funny on his profile he listed himself as a Service Engineer, of what a kettle?
Funny that a Service Engineer would make a simple mistake of a router with a switch, and with his previous somewhat copy paste job of describing one, which wasnt totally what a switch is, he hasnt impressed me and has backtracked as people have said.
Give a liar a shovel and he will dig himself deeper :P
Its just so funny :D
HowardCanning
14-02-2007, 14:45
Or just host a web server on your lan ;)
There is a easy way to get internet explorer to report these speeds... Try it and see... I used IE7.
1. Go to http://gamefiles.virginmedia.com/blueyondergames/demos/
2. Download a file
3. Once completed dont close box but download the same file again and save to different directory.
4. This time it will just download the file from your temp directory and you'll get the times for copying a file across your local HD.
Heres what happened when i did it....
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8313/downloaduv1.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=downloaduv1.jpg)
The thing that confuses me is the fact that it should have a "download complete" box in the taskbar like my screenshot, this also leads me to believe that he edited it also....
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