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being limited beyond believe 60 kb/s from newsdemon, how do i go about either a PROXY (i use newzleech) or geting virgin media to remove this limit as it is realy annoyin me i jus payed for premium service :@
TraxData
10-02-2007, 21:46
Could just be a bad route with them as newsdemon is really slow for me right now (100-200kb/s) while giganews is maxin out at 1.2mb/s
internetguy
10-02-2007, 21:54
I'm on 2 meg and been using newsdemon all day, its been maxed out constantly. No problems :D Im on the useast server :rolleyes:
If it is bad routing for some people then people on alot of other news servers will have the same problem too because newsdemon are resellers of highwinds-media so they use their servers and so do alot of other usenet providers. Such as usenet-news, thundernews & newsgroups-download.
tracert useast.newsdemon.com
Tracing route to useast.newsdemon.com [69.28.186.120]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 13 ms 31 ms 7 ms -------------------
2 21 ms 11 ms 9 ms lutn-t2cam1-b-v122.inet.ntl.com [80.4.118.253]
3 9 ms 7 ms 28 ms lutn-t2core-b-ge-wan84.inet.ntl.com [195.182.174
.205]
4 42 ms 55 ms 39 ms nth-bb-b-so-610-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.65]
5 22 ms 22 ms 50 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 8 ms 21 ms 9 ms pop-bb-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.230]
7 9 ms 26 ms 10 ms tele-ic-2-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
8 14 ms 10 ms 14 ms tge5-13.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.129]
9 96 ms 100 ms 108 ms tge7-2.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.125]
10 92 ms 93 ms 93 ms news.lga.highwinds-media.com [69.28.186.120]
Trace complete.
That's the route im going through btw :D
i been useing europe server the thing is for my first 3 days it was perfect 1.2 mb/s no problem but after that it stuck at 60 kb/s it aint bad routeing because it is dead stuck on 60 and first few days was ok, i think next month maybe i wil try giganews see if virgin media shape me from useing there servers as well ! (easynews beta is 1.2 mb/s useing instead of my payed account on newsdemon right now !)
How muxh did you download before your speed dropped away? If you are being capped then you will be capped no matter what servers you pull from.
internetguy
10-02-2007, 22:05
I used the europe server for the first 10 days but I found useast to be the better one for me.
I was going to try giganews next month but you can't pay with debit card (im only 13 so I just have a solo debit card). Plus giganews for me takes a really good route:
1 216-196-110-3.ams.giganews.com (216.196.110.3) 0 ms 0 ms 1 ms
2 amst-ic-1.inet.ntl.com (195.69.144.40) 138 ms 131 ms *
3 pop-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.5) 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms
4 lutn-t2core-a-pos31.inet.ntl.com (62.253.188.186) 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms
5 lutn-cache-12.server.ntli.net (62.252.64.33) 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms
How muxh did you download before your speed dropped away? If you are being capped then you will be capped no matter what servers you pull from.
3 or 4 days mm about 80 - 90 gig i guess, but only newsdemon capped i have downloaded more (but over logner period of time) from easynews and that hasnt been capped
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I used the europe server for the first 10 days but I found useast to be the better one for me.
I was going to try giganews next month but you can't pay with debit card (im only 13 so I just have a solo debit card). Plus giganews for me takes a really good route:
but the us both east and west are EXACTLY 60 kb/s annoying me now
dcclanuk
10-02-2007, 22:14
3 or 4 days mm about 80 - 90 gig i guess, but only newsdemon capped i have downloaded more (but over logner period of time) from easynews and that hasnt been capped
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but the us both east and west are EXACTLY 60 kb/s annoying me now
I do 2.3gb a day up/down total and am scared its a bit too much:shocked:
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:15
lol im in trouble then ;)
even more annoying i had 2 different clients running now 10 connections on each and it is divideing the 60 kb/s between them both (so each client 30 kb/s) :@
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:17
i been useing europe server the thing is for my first 3 days it was perfect 1.2 mb/s no problem but after that it stuck at 60 kb/s it aint bad routeing because it is dead stuck on 60 and first few days was ok, i think next month maybe i wil try giganews see if virgin media shape me from useing there servers as well ! (easynews beta is 1.2 mb/s useing instead of my payed account on newsdemon right now !)
as Paul says if your being capped then you would be capped with easynews too its your route simple as
as Paul says if your being capped then you would be capped with easynews too its your route simple as
then why did it start off ok and then go to pot hmmm how can i go about geting this corrected then ?
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:21
If you can go giganews as its much bigger and in my experience very stable in its NNTP whereas easynews nntp servers are awful but there http is very fast.
It might be worth deleting your clients spool file and signiture file just in case. You could try grabbit to rule out the client. Try setting a different proxy I may have imagined it but this has made a difference or appeared to for me before
Try the different server address is there is one
If you can go giganews as its much bigger and in my experience very stable in its NNTP whereas easynews nntp servers are awful but there http is very fast.
only got either paypal or solo :( i cant use em i dont think damn it, any others on par with giganews ?
internetguy
10-02-2007, 22:23
I think GigaNews needs to accept debit cards, then I would go with them :D Im the same as you Locky, only got PayPal or solo.
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:24
Dont give up on newsdemon till you have tried everything
TraxData
10-02-2007, 22:24
only got either paypal or solo :( i cant use em i dont think damn it, any others on par with giganews ?
Nope, giganews is the only one who has great retention and kick ass speeds.
internetguy
10-02-2007, 22:26
yup giganews is the best no doubt and I think 99% of people would agree ;)
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:26
have you run the traceroute here (http://www.newsdemon.com/speed.php)? might be worth a go
here is a tracert if this means anything to any1
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1146/tracertzt0.jpg
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have you run the traceroute here (http://www.newsdemon.com/speed.php)? might be worth a go
running now 1 minute
---------- Post added at 22:28 ---------- Previous post was at 22:28 ----------
Your IP address has been detected as xxxxxxxxx
Out BGP (port 119, 23, 80, 3128, etc) 2 ae2.j3.iad.scnet.net (66.225.244.253) 9.700 ms 9.902 ms 9.935 ms
3 equinix.ash.cw.net (206.223.115.73) 10.129 ms 9.265 ms 9.973 ms
4 so-5-0-0-dcr1.was.cw.net (195.2.0.217) 9.887 ms 9.395 ms 9.939 ms
5 so-7-0-0-dcr1.nyk.cw.net (195.2.3.2) 110.659 ms 33.471 ms 9.178 ms
6 so-6-0-0-dcr2.nyk.cw.net (195.2.10.242) 9.934 ms 9.534 ms 9.950 ms
7 so-1-0-0-dcr2.lnd.cw.net (195.2.10.114) 77.044 ms 77.037 ms 77.063 ms
8 ge-5-0-0-dcr1.lnd.cw.net (195.2.9.89) 77.045 ms 76.954 ms 76.815 ms
9 NTL-Interconnect-lnd.cw.net (195.2.9.150) 85.572 ms 85.477 ms 85.690 ms
10 win-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.198) 85.698 ms 85.441 ms 85.736 ms
11 win-bb-a-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.172.161) 85.660 ms 85.615 ms 85.568 ms
12 man-bb-b-so-110-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.137) 91.038 ms 90.835 ms 90.955 ms
13 manc-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.242.246) 90.888 ms 94.094 ms 91.110 ms
14 oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan31.inet.ntl.com (195.182.175.90) 92.011 ms 91.774 ms 91.708 ms
15 ubr05oldh-ge02.inet.ntl.com (80.5.165.26) 92.059 ms 92.120 ms 91.944 ms
16 cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust398.manc.cable.ntl.com (82.1.229.143) [closed] 124.254 ms 96.631 ms 97.841 ms
Out SC (port 7000) 2 ae1.350.j2.iad.scnet.net (66.225.244.253) 9.175 ms 16.379 ms 13.939 ms
3 equinix.ash.cw.net (206.223.115.73) 9.384 ms 9.485 ms 9.951 ms
4 so-5-0-0-dcr1.was.cw.net (195.2.0.217) 9.893 ms 9.518 ms 9.939 ms
5 so-7-0-0-dcr1.nyk.cw.net (195.2.3.2) 9.326 ms 9.513 ms 9.722 ms
6 so-6-0-0-dcr2.nyk.cw.net (195.2.10.242) 9.748 ms 9.382 ms 9.957 ms
7 so-1-0-0-dcr2.lnd.cw.net (195.2.10.114) 76.880 ms 76.992 ms 76.915 ms
8 ge-5-0-0-dcr1.lnd.cw.net (195.2.9.89) 77.046 ms 76.748 ms 76.897 ms
9 NTL-Interconnect-lnd.cw.net (195.2.9.150) 85.563 ms 85.558 ms 85.912 ms
10 win-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.198) 85.413 ms 85.562 ms 85.545 ms
11 win-bb-a-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.172.161) 85.618 ms 85.527 ms 85.552 ms
12 man-bb-b-so-110-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.137) 91.053 ms 99.967 ms 90.964 ms
13 manc-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.242.246) 95.756 ms 91.099 ms 90.956 ms
14 oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan31.inet.ntl.com (195.182.175.90) 92.102 ms 109.192 ms 91.781 ms
15 ubr05oldh-ge02.inet.ntl.com (80.5.165.26) 91.975 ms 92.067 ms 91.996 ms
16 cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust398.manc.cable.ntl.com (82.1.229.143) [closed] 97.874 ms 97.999 ms 104.139 ms
Out Cogent (port 8000) 2 g3-0.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.21.237) 139.346 ms 9.197 ms 198.823 ms
3 v3494.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.41) 9.943 ms 9.759 ms 9.940 ms
4 v3498.mpd01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.5) 9.889 ms 9.918 ms 9.942 ms
5 t2-4.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.14) 21.930 ms 23.072 ms 17.969 ms
6 t4-1.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.121) 87.576 ms 87.546 ms 87.587 ms
7 t3-3.mpd01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.25) 87.435 ms 87.550 ms 87.819 ms
8 v3490.mpd01.lon02.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.218) 83.523 ms 83.502 ms 83.441 ms
9 ntl.lon02.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.142) 84.173 ms 83.719 ms 84.141 ms
10 nth-bb-b-as0-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.1) 92.161 ms 92.247 ms 92.042 ms
11 lee-bb-a-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.102) 95.151 ms 95.170 ms 95.142 ms
12 man-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.142) 95.921 ms 96.291 ms 96.132 ms
13 manc-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.242.246) 96.037 ms 96.171 ms 96.071 ms
14 oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan31.inet.ntl.com (195.182.175.90) 97.689 ms 97.179 ms 96.912 ms
15 ubr05oldh-ge02.inet.ntl.com (80.5.165.26) 97.052 ms 96.855 ms 96.930 ms
16 cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust398.manc.cable.ntl.com (82.1.229.143) [closed] 105.918 ms 101.896 ms 110.608 ms
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3 ge1-2.br02.frf02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.14.142) 100.776 ms 100.904 ms 100.665 ms
4 fkft-ic-1.inet.ntl.com (80.81.192.5) 95.765 ms 95.896 ms 95.831 ms
5 nth-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.82) 103.501 ms 105.652 ms 103.566 ms
6 lee-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.134) 106.565 ms 106.649 ms 106.512 ms
7 man-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.193) 107.663 ms 107.459 ms 107.670 ms
8 manc-t3core-1a-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.2) 107.547 ms 107.544 ms 107.442 ms
9 oldh-t2cam1-a-ge-wan31.inet.ntl.com (195.182.175.66) 108.387 ms 107.884 ms 107.929 ms
10 ubr05oldh-ge01.inet.ntl.com (80.5.165.102) 108.823 ms 108.223 ms 108.143 ms
11 cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust398.manc.cable.ntl.com (82.1.229.143) [closed] 115.268 ms 113.654 ms 113.917 ms
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:28
is there a different cluster address you can try? by just dropping the europe? news.newsdemon.com is that cluster?
delete your ip mate
is there a different cluster address you can try? by just dropping the europe? news.newsdemon.com is that cluster?
delete your ip mate
there are 3,
europe
uswest
useast
all 3 are .newsdemon.com
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:31
well news.newsdemon.com pings too
have you tried all 3?
well news.newsdemon.com pings too
will try it ten now, btw thanks for your help ! appreciated
Down the Pub
10-02-2007, 22:32
I think GigaNews needs to accept debit cards, then I would go with them :D Im the same as you Locky, only got PayPal or solo.
well my only card is a visa electron which is a debit card and i had no probs signing up with giganews..........newsdemon are pants, they were the first i tried using as they took pp, but they farm out pp users to different servers (which from experience were better), but then changed my payment and had to start a new account with them and after that found that was only getting maybe half the speed that i was previously.
but now with giganews and have no probs maxing out
news.newsdemon.com on port 119 dont work
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:33
try the other 2 then
try the other 2 then
already done pal exactly 60 kb/s again, newsdemon are throttling me ?
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:35
try with a different proxy in IE I dunno if this will do anything but ive had better speeds under different proxys before im sure I have (although most my lifes a dream lol)
try with a different proxy in IE I dunno if this will do anything but ive had better speeds under different proxys before im sure I have (although most my lifes a dream lol)
tryed useing the ntl proxys more or less the same results
giganews take other payment other than what listed on the site ?
AndyIggs83
10-02-2007, 22:41
I do 2.3gb a day up/down total and am scared its a bit too much:shocked:
yeah 90GB in 3 days is way too much
why would you need to download so much?
internetguy
10-02-2007, 22:42
news.newsdemon.com on port 119 dont work
It's meant for the people on the lower package (the one with 65 days retention and 10 connections). Thats why it wont let you use it
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:43
yeah 90GB in 3 days is way too much
why would you need to download so much?
how does 2.3 gig a day equal 90 gig in 3 days?
It's meant for the people on the lower package (the one with 65 days retention and 10 connections). Thats why it wont let you use it
ahhhhh ok, the reason i signed up for newsdemon was the fact there was some bianries i cudnt resist, i have goten most of the stuff i wanted but i dont intend on getign the rest at 60 kb/s !! is it possible u think geting a refund off of them as this is shocking and now looks like THEY are throttleing me i dotn think it is ntl after all, well... ?
AndyIggs83
10-02-2007, 22:44
how does 2.3 gig a day equal 90 gig in 3 days?
Sorry mate, I should of quoted lockys post what he was doing :dunce:
internetguy
10-02-2007, 22:45
They probably won't give you a full refund but they might give you some money back. Also I emailed giganews a few weeks ago about other ways of payment but they said they don't allow anything else because of security issues or someething.
Edit: Found the email!
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Giganews Customer Care!
For security and identification purposes, we do require that payments be
made using either a credit card, or an online purchase capable debit card.
We do know of customers using prepaid debit cards, such as a PayPal
MasterCard debit card; this allows use of your PayPal account to pay for
Giganews accounts.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to
let us know.
Thanks for choosing Giganews!
--
Mitchell
Giganews Support
DocDutch
10-02-2007, 22:46
locky is it just with newsgroups that you are getting a dodgy speed. what happens if you download anything from the web.
I'm using Newsdemon myself as well the eu server and my download was a bouncy 20-900 k
locky is it just with newsgroups that you are getting a dodgy speed. what happens if you download anything from the web.
I'm using Newsdemon myself as well the eu server and my download was a bouncy 20-900 k
everything is fine nntp from ntl easynews as well as http and ftp, ONLY newsdemon usenet, you also suffering ? what speed u geting atm ?
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:47
To the OP maybe you have breached fair usage policy I would email them and ask. I dont believe Giganews have this policy ive often done 90 over 3 days and not been capped by giganews
To the OP maybe you have breached fair usage policy I would email them and ask. I dont believe Giganews have this policy ive often done 90 over 3 days and not been capped by giganews
yeah i have re-opened my previous ticket about the speed saying the only thing could be them capping me if this is the case, i will seek a refund as they advertise a unlimited product, clearly that isnt the case.
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 22:53
good luck and get someone with e CC to set you up a giganews account just d him a few bits of media as a bonus for the favour ;)
TraxData
10-02-2007, 22:53
yeah i have re-opened my previous ticket about the speed saying the only thing could be them capping me if this is the case, i will seek a refund as they advertise a unlimited product, clearly that isnt the case.
NTL advertise unlimited but have a fair usage policy, want to get a refund off them as well? :P
No such thing as unlimited, no provider will let you do more than a few hundred gig a week without capping you (including giga)
good luck and get someone with e CC to set you up a giganews account just d him a few bits of media as a bonus for the favour ;)
i will jsut use dads i think and put the money in his paypal lol, help response on newsdemon has always been fast now i accuse them of throttleing me it seems they are ignoreing me...
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I know someone who downloaded 300 gig in a week on giganews and didn't get capped!
it is possible to download around 3 terabytes a month like 750 gig a week, i wonder if they wud cap then ? haa
internetguy
10-02-2007, 22:59
hmmm, i think i deleted that post (about the 300 gig in a week) by accident (i probably ticket the delete box when editing) lol
TraxData
10-02-2007, 23:08
i will jsut use dads i think and put the money in his paypal lol, help response on newsdemon has always been fast now i accuse them of throttleing me it seems they are ignoreing me...
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it is possible to download around 3 terabytes a month like 750 gig a week, i wonder if they wud cap then ? haa
Doing 750gig/week on giga will get you banned.
AndyIggs83
10-02-2007, 23:09
yeah i have re-opened my previous ticket about the speed saying the only thing could be them capping me if this is the case, i will seek a refund as they advertise a unlimited product, clearly that isnt the case.
But your downloading 90GB in a few days, thats quite a lot!
What are you doing with it!? :confused:
TraxData
10-02-2007, 23:10
But your downloading 90GB in a few days, thats quite a lot!
What are you doing with it!? :confused:
When your doing that much in a matter of days its fairly obvious that someone is selling dvds etc :angel:
zing_deleted
10-02-2007, 23:11
still have to be downloading a load of crap no one wants
I do about 300 gig on average some months upto 700 and get everything good ;)
AndyIggs83
10-02-2007, 23:11
When your doing that much in a matter of days its fairly obvious that someone is selling dvds etc :angel:
he's that bloke that comes into your local with them all in his car isnt he!? LOL
When your doing that much in a matter of days its fairly obvious that someone is selling dvds etc :angel:
no not true, like i said sumthing i realy wanted was on it..
TraxData
10-02-2007, 23:13
no not true, like i said sumthing i realy wanted was on it..
We both know that is a lie.
I dont care if you do sell them, companies screw us over anyway.
Point is, i know you do between 400-900GB/Month, and no one has that much HD space to keep downloading constantly, so alot must be getting burnt off..and well, either you dont pay for anything u watch, or you sell ;)
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he's that bloke that comes into your local with them all in his car isnt he!? LOL
Dont know anyone like that :D *whistles and walks away*
I am with Astraweb newsgroup hostings and they're pretty good. When I was on the NTL Telewest 20mbit trial I was downloading at full 2400 ksec, plus it only costs about £8 a month. Excellent value for money in my opinion.
I use usenetserver (http://www.usenetserver.com?refer=169275). They've just upgraded to 90 days retention. With a plan to go past 100 days. Best of all they are only $39 for three months for unlimited use.
Been with them over a year and never had any problems. Always max out my 2mb connection.
i mite take a look at them..
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only got solo or paypal, damn cant sign to any of them
Since the NTL usenet servers got sorted recently, I have been getting smooth 380KB/s downloads (10 threads), no need to pay for a service unless I want some of the groups NTL doesn't provide.
anybody tryed "thundernews"
max i can get on newsdemon is 30kbps for most of this week, BY maxxes out but so many incompletes its pointless, or they just failed 'post purged' even with things that are 1/2days old.
VirginMedia :td: :td: :td: :td: :td: :td:
max i can get on newsdemon is 30kbps for most of this week, BY maxxes out but so many incompletes its pointless, or they just failed 'post purged' even with things that are 1/2days old.
VirginMedia :td: :td: :td: :td: :td: :td:
What's that got to do with Virginmedia? :confused:
Some people are far to quick to kick a company when there could be so many possibilities for things not working correctly. :td:
I'm using Newshosting and don't have any speed issues.
Ive tried different computer, rebooted modem, contacted newsdemon, ive ruled out every possibility of a problem my end and newsdemon says no problem, obvious choice to blame virgin, and my friend who lives down the road is having exactly the same problems, dont think im jumping on the bandwagon here.
Ive tried different computer, rebooted modem, contacted newsdemon, ive ruled out every possibility of a problem my end and newsdemon says no problem, obvious choice to blame virgin, and my friend who lives down the road is having exactly the same problems, dont think im jumping on the bandwagon here.
i am in the same boat they are capping each connection to 3 kb/s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! i know it is them but know i confronted them about it they are ignoreing my tickets ! i am trying to get a refund !
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