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greencreeper
30-04-2005, 22:58
It makes me feel uncomfortable, and a little disgusted, when you discuss women as objects for pleasure. Today, at work, I've had to suffer lurid tales of messy anal sex and general promiscuity; how difficult it is to maintain several "birds"; techniques for dumping and duping "birds"; and drunken incidents resulting in the discovery, the following morning, that she "looks like a horse". There's also the passing round of men's magazines - the ones that border on porn mags and don't have too many words over 5 letters long. No one mentions trips to the GUM clinic though.
How do you women put up with it?
What were you doing listening in on other people's conversations? :P
Seriously though, did you try saying "lads please, some of us are trying to work here?"
How do you women put up with it?
I suspect that many do much the same :(
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I have never liked the male 'banter' thing--false bravado really and cringingly embarrassing to listen to :disturbd:
greencreeper
30-04-2005, 23:09
What were you doing listening in on other people's conversations? :P
Well I'm a man so they assume I'm straight. Sometimes I wish gay men were a different colour - say, deep pink ;) "What do you think to the tits on that". Er, yes - lovely :erm:
Seriously though, did you try saying "lads please, some of us are trying to work here?"
They vary in age from 18 to 30+, so not really lads - that's part of the annoyance. I mean - 21+ and you're a grown up.
I suspect that many do much the same :(
Possibly, yes, but I think it's a response to the way men have behaved towards them for many years.
I have never liked the male 'banter' thing--false bravado really and cringingly embarrassing to listen to :disturbd:
Agree, though I think some of it is true - which I find worrying really. If you're that sexually active, you should be visiting the GUM clinic once a month. Some of them haven't ever visited. Deeply worrying.
It makes me feel uncomfortable, and a little disgusted, when you discuss women as objects for pleasure. Today, at work, I've had to suffer lurid tales of messy anal sex and general promiscuity; how difficult it is to maintain several "birds"; techniques for dumping and duping "birds"; and drunken incidents resulting in the discovery, the following morning, that she "looks like a horse". There's also the passing round of men's magazines - the ones that border on porn mags and don't have too many words over 5 letters long. No one mentions trips to the GUM clinic though.
How do you women put up with it?
You think it's only men who are like this? Try a job in the media, preferably radio. You will be shocked!
Personally I am a guy and they do my head in, and I have a gf. I do feel though that if the like magazines that much and comment such, that I won't hand wrestle one of them as there right hand is likely very powerful. ;)
Erm, GUM ?
The Clap Clinic.
How do you women put up with it?
I suspect that many do much the same :(
They do. I have worked in a mostly female office (the boss and I were the only males in a staff of 10). The stuff some of the women came out with makes the stuff my male friends come out with pale in comparison.
I have never liked the male 'banter' thing--false bravado really and cringingly embarrassing to listen to :disturbd:
Same here, actually.
greencreeper
30-04-2005, 23:17
Gum ?
The clap clinic - [edit] beaten to it :D
You think it's only men who are like this? Try a job in the media, preferably radio. You will be shocked!
No - I know women can be "ladish" too, but like I said, I think the behaviour has developed in response to how men treat them.
Personally I am a guy and they do my head in, and I have a gf. I do feel though that if the like magazines that much and comment such, that I won't hand wrestle one of them as there right hand is likely very powerful. ;)Well, if you do hand wrestle, make sure you're wearing a glove ;)
ive been pretty shocked by a few conversations by men in the past about women, even the nicest and most religious of men have dropped some clangers, it makes me wonder how these people get women in the first place, it must be the apparent charm and 'bad boy' image i guess... :shrug:
i had a simaler incident just a couple of days ago with someone, he suggested in a sexual manner that i make the 'sexually overtoned' approach to instigating a sexual episode.....the way in which he said it was quite shocking......what was equally as shocking was that his advice was based with a complete racial bias, if it was someone of ethnic origin then i would not have got that advice.
there is me thinking wtf about the whole conversation..... some people make me sick, most men do!
yes im a man but seriously the things i have heard and seen it makes my blood boil, multiple patners, multiple phone handsets/sim cards......
:disturbd: :Yikes: maybe if i turn nasty ill get a women :shrug:
They do. I have worked in a mostly female office (the boss and I were the only males in a staff of 10). The stuff some of the women came out with makes the stuff my male friends come out with pale in comparison.
I can agree with that.
bmxbandit
30-04-2005, 23:19
you could always fight fire with fire... the draughtsmen where i used to work had *cough* 'calenders' up all over the place.
One of the more confrontational women decided that pictures of the french rugby team wearing nothing but strategically placed rugby balls would help to compensate... :Yikes: it certainly shut them up for a while!
i can understand it may not be what you want to do, or indeed work in this situation, but it might be worth a try :)
Erm, GUM ?
The Clap Clinic.
Or to give it it's full name "Genito-Urinary Medicine"..
No - I know women can be "ladish" too, but like I said, I think the behaviour has developed in response to how men treat them.
You mean a sort of "let's be as bad as them" mentality?
greencreeper
30-04-2005, 23:22
You mean a sort of "let's be as bad as them" mentality?
Pretty much - yeah - though I would expect the exact reasoning to be more complex. I think there are various sociological factors at work, but yes - women are taking the lead from men.
Plonking
30-04-2005, 23:23
I wouldn't worry about it, many guys who I have had to work in the past have been like those you describe.. as far as I can tell, they spend most of their lives being really lonely, and making up stories about their 'sexploits' to impress people:dozey:
I subtly moved my way out of the group of 'the lads' where I used to work by scaring the hell out of them on a regular basis.. I used to wear a big (optional) apron that basically looked like a skirt, and I went around curtesying to people here and there.. the lads soon stopped talking to me about 'some fit bird they pulled' :D
Although, on the other hand, if one of them does try and tell you stories like those you describe, it may mean they like you and are trying to impress you. Which may or may not be a good thing, lol....
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Pretty much - yeah - though I would expect the exact reasoning to be more complex. I think there are various sociological factors at work, but yes - women are taking the lead from men.
Which, IMO, if true makes women worse than men. We tend to be a bit neanderthal, it's not too far from our true nature. That's not in any way justifying the behaviour btw.
However for a species to consciously decide to act that way when it is not usually in their nature is a much more negative trait, again in my opinion.
Rather than pull us up to their level, they're allowing themselves to be dragged down to ours.
Going back to the original point, although I'm a regular reader of Nuts and FHM, I find the behaviour you describe to be somewhat annoying, just as I find over-campness to be equally irritating. I can't really put up with macho or camp to be honest, so anything near the centre of that spectrum is preferrable.
They do. I have worked in a mostly female office (the boss and I were the only males in a staff of 10). The stuff some of the women came out with makes the stuff my male friends come out with pale in comparison.
Perhaps a kind mod can change the thread title to 'Man'
greencreeper
30-04-2005, 23:35
I've never been good at faking straight, so I rely on their ignorance to keep me safe. Where I work, there is only one woman - I've no idea how she's survived. It's hardly suprising women don't work in our team - the lad culture is too strong.
I think many of their stories are true, rather than just being tall tales. I'm sure they do lie, and I'm sure they embelish the truth, but I do believe many sleep around and have 2 or 3 girlfriends.
Rather than pull us up to their level, they're allowing themselves to be dragged down to ours.
But if, as you say, men are just being natural, then it wouldn't be possible to raise men to the same level as women. I think men are setting the standard, that's all.
I find the behaviour you describe to be somewhat annoying, just as I find over-campness to be equally irritating. I can't really put up with macho or camp to be honest, so anything near the centre of that spectrum is preferrable.
Methinks the filters aren't working too well :) Camp annoys me too - which I guess many will find surprising given that I'm gay. But the thread is more about gender rather than sexuality. How many men on here are guilty and posting in defense? Be honest now :D
How many men on here are guilty and posting in defense? Be honest now :DNot guilty, I was just agreeing that women can be the same :)
I was on a section at work where the women outnumbered the men and the things that I heard was just the same as you. :)
But if, as you say, men are just being natural, then it wouldn't be possible to raise men to the same level as women. I think men are setting the standard, that's all.
I'm not saying we're being natural, I said it's close to our nature, there's a difference. I think we've moved on from when the 'neanderthal' angle was in vogue. Well, some of us anyway.....
And I notice it's only 'men setting the standard' when we're doing something wrong ;)
How many men on here are guilty and posting in defense? Be honest now :D
I can honestly say I'm not aware of being like that!
I personally don't like it, but based on my own experience, it's nothing to do with Gender or Sexuality (as I said earlier, I have found women are just as likely to do it). I actually think it is more to do with ego than anything. I think people do it to combat a percieved deficiancy in their lives, and forget that we all mess up our lives in some way or another.
Bragging about women and labeling them in any way is plainly wrong, showing that a person is treating them differently from everyone else.
I would hate hearing myself described in such ways if I was a women.
Some people do indeed have a big lack of respect.
It may be an age thing?
Been there (clinic that is) written the book, bought the T-Shirt etc. It is somewhat harder to come to terms with when you have children of your own. ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS IF ANYONE SAYS NO RESPECT THAT ANSWER.
Richard M
01-05-2005, 00:29
:disturbd: :Yikes: maybe if i turn nasty ill get a women :shrug:
Yep.
Yep.
damn typo....its true though!
women gossip about men too... but i think alot of media such as magazines and testosterone fueled advertising make things worse for men, the provocative scantily clad women showing off ample assests does not do well for the credibility of women to be taken seriously.
just my opinion there.
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Some people do indeed have a big lack of respect.
respect whats that ? :rolleyes:
to be honest i dont think it exists anymore....when your talking about men fancying women then its a totally diffarent thing, the only thing most men can respect is if they have an ample ding dong or have sexual relations with a good looking women they see, its quite interesting to monitor a human males behaviour when put in a 'gunner' position and have a good looking lady infront of them, how the attitude changes so quickly, hard man, comedian, suave person comes in.....but behind the back of that woman the person is completely diffarent....i dont know how some people can do that.
No - I know women can be "ladish" too, but like I said, I think the behaviour has developed in response to how men treat them.
You mean a sort of "let's be as bad as them" mentality?
Sorry, but I don't think it's that.
From what I've heard from female friends, they tend to act "demure" (or, at least more so) when there are men around *because* men can't deal with what women talk about (and talk like!) when they're alone.
Also look at a group of women watching male strippers (eg in The Full Monty), they're not doing it "because blokes do it" they're having a good time and don't have to worry about people going "tsk, disgusting"!
Sorry, but I don't think it's that.
From what I've heard from female friends, they tend to act "demure" (or, at least more so) when there are men around *because* men can't deal with what women talk about (and talk like!) when they're alone.
Also look at a group of women watching male strippers (eg in The Full Monty), they're not doing it "because blokes do it" they're having a good time and don't have to worry about people going "tsk, disgusting"!
I have heard the same thing, which is what led me to believe it is purely ego that drives people to do that (the idea of appearing to have a better life than your neighbour) , not their gender or sexuality. I certainly don't believe it's a case of one gender trying to out do the other.
Sigh!
People are people whatever their sex.Some are moronic,some are smashing..That's life.
However I can state catergorically I've never heard such talk from either sex in any staff room I've ever been in.It would get you reported pretty damned quick. :erm: I think people who talk about sex in this way in front of the opposite sex need shooting.One is at work presumably to work not gossip.If you can't keep the general conversation within the bounds of common decency in mixed company then you deserve it if the sole male or female makes a formal complaint of sexual harrassment. :rolleyes:
men = *****
Some of us are allright... :(
i know, the ones round here are all ***** tho
i know, the ones round here are all ***** tho
Fair enough...
Richard M
01-05-2005, 05:04
Yep.
damn typo....its true though!
It wasn't a typo, "yep" is another word for "yes" in Wales. :D
men = *****
So you wouldn't be offended if I said all women are sl**s?
Apologies for the above posts - errrrrr i dont even remember typing it. Came home worse for wear last nite and the pc was on!! Lethal
Sorry everybody! :sorry:
just going to check what else ive wrote
downquark1
01-05-2005, 11:44
Well I know women who treat people like they are nothing but sources of gossip.
They can both be as bad as each other.
It wasn't a typo, "yep" is another word for "yes" in Wales. :D
In London too..
There's a whole range of issues at wotk here I guess, not least the portrayal of women in the media which encourages such banal and macho banter. It can also be difficult to challenge such attitudes in the workplace - get labelled as being PC, spoilsport as, after all, "it's only a bit of fun" Yeah right. At the end of the day, it comes down to respect for others, regardless of their gender (or race, religion etc ...) and at times it can seem there's not an awful lot of that about.
There's a whole range of issues at wotk here I guess, not least the portrayal of women in the media which encourages such banal and macho banter. It can also be difficult to challenge such attitudes in the workplace - get labelled as being PC, spoilsport as, after all, "it's only a bit of fun" Yeah right. At the end of the day, it comes down to respect for others, regardless of their gender (or race, religion etc ...) and at times it can seem there's not an awful lot of that about.
You said it better than me...A greenie for you...
zoombini
01-05-2005, 21:41
So do women talk about messy anal sex too? :D
Chimaera
01-05-2005, 21:43
So do women talk about messy anal sex too? :D
Do men ever talk about it? :D
So do women talk about messy anal sex too? :D
Do men ever talk about it? :D
I don't..
Do men ever talk about it? :DFunny you should ask that--A patient of mine a couple of weeks ago did...........I won't recount the medical problem he incurred due to anal sex.........lets just say he ended up in casualty....and that was just the start of it :rofl:
Let me guess....
"Well what it was, I was hoovering in the nude....."
Chimaera
01-05-2005, 22:01
Let me guess....
"Well what it was, I was hoovering in the nude....."
No - I thought it was other men's bits that got damaged by hoovers? :shrug:
I seem to remember (when I worked in the documentation department of a pharmaceutical company) being handed an article entitled 'Penile injuries incurred form a Hoover Constellation Vacuum Cleaner' or something along those lines......
Can't remember where I filed it (or why they gave it to me in the first place!) :rofl:
So do women talk about messy anal sex too? :D
NO!Well not any woman I've ever met.Or any man. :erm:
Chimaera
01-05-2005, 22:05
NO!Well not any woman I've ever met.Or any man. :erm:
We obviously don't move in the right circles, Coggy!
We obviously don't move in the right circles, Coggy!
There is SUCH a good opportunity for a double entendre there :D :disturbd:
Chimaera
01-05-2005, 22:11
There is SUCH a good opportunity for a double entendre there :D :disturbd:
Awww go for it Russ - you know you want to!!!! ;)
homealone
01-05-2005, 22:31
Do men ever talk about it? :D
nobody I know has, before - they will all pile in now, I assume ;)
nobody I know has before - they will all pile in now, I assume ;)
Quick - someone call the Nuggmeister!!!
homealone
01-05-2005, 22:40
Quick - someone call the Nuggmeister!!!
yes, sorry, not fair - I should know better than anyone, he cannot be here other than at work :angel:
Quick - someone call the Nuggmeister!!!
yes, sorry, not fair - I should know better than anyone, he cannot be here other than at work :angel:
Yeah, it's a bum rap..
We obviously don't move in the right circles, Coggy!
Yes chim...... we obviously haven't had a girlie chat for ages :naughty: ;)
I suppose the difference would be that our discussions would be private and not in ear shot of people who are likely to be offended or............ recognise who we may be talking about ;)
I believe there's a time and a place for most discussions...... it's just knowing the social......... and perhaps legal ;) .....boundaries.
No - I thought it was other men's bits that got damaged by hoovers? :shrug:
I seem to remember (when I worked in the documentation department of a pharmaceutical company) being handed an article entitled 'Penile injuries incurred form a Hoover Constellation Vacuum Cleaner' or something along those lines......
Can't remember where I filed it (or why they gave it to me in the first place!) :rofl:
Check your email soon if you fancy a trip down memory lane ;) :p:
Edit: OMG!! Just been delving through medical annals ;) Wait till you see the one about the oven mitt!! :eek: :p:
Edit: OMG!! Just been delving through medical annals ;) Wait till you see the one about the oven mitt!! :eek: :p: I wanna see the one about the oven mitt! :disturbd: :D
Edit: OMG!! Just been delving through medical annals ;) Wait till you see the one about the oven mitt!! :eek: :p:
Should that not be "anals" instead of "annals"? Bearing in mind the subject matter..
I'd like to see the one with the Oven Mitt too..
Should that not be "anals" instead of "annals"? Bearing in mind the subject matter..
I'd like to see the one with the Oven Mitt too..
Hence the winky smilie ;) I never know whether to correct some medical staff when they ask for the Anals of Internal Medicine instead of the Annals....... but i tend to let them go off on their merry way and let someone else embarrass them :D
The Oven Mitt seems to have been forceably introduced with a wooden stick......... Will forward the email onto you too stu..... for educational purposes of course :angel: :p:
Monster Jedi
02-05-2005, 15:34
This is a crap subject to talk about:D. I think I should change my name. How about me being called Anus Pain :D :tu:
It wasn't a typo, "yep" is another word for "yes" in Wales. :D
very funny :p: actually i meant the typo that i typed women instead of woman but yes i agree its generally an ego thing, but i think in the majority of men ego plays a huge role when you have to start boasting to look good. :p:
and what the hell has anal sex got to do with this :erm: :erm: :erm:
*feels tentative around his :erm: :p:
Hence the winky smilie ;) I never know whether to correct some medical staff when they ask for the Anals of Internal Medicine instead of the Annals....... but i tend to let them go off on their merry way and let someone else embarrass them :D They are that thick? :shocked: :D
The Oven Mitt seems to have been forceably introduced with a wooden stick......... Will forward the email onto you too stu..... for educational purposes of course :angel: :p:*ahem* I asked first! :D
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*feels tentative around his :erm: :p:We are probably witnessing the first, tentative, steps in a happy, lasting relationship :disturbd: :rofl: :D
We are probably witnessing the first, tentative, steps in a happy, lasting relationship :disturbd: :rofl: :D
with ?......... :disturbd: :Yikes: :shocked: :p: ;)
with ?......... :disturbd: :Yikes: :shocked: :p: ;)Whatever you are 'feeling around' :D
Whatever you are 'feeling around' :D
dunno....but earlier on it was the snake that was slimey :p: :D ;)
Monster Jedi
02-05-2005, 17:16
and what the hell has anal sex got to do with this :erm: :erm: :erm:
*feels tentative around his :erm: :p:
Your not going on about sweetcorn are you :D
Your not going on about sweetcorn are you :D
yes ofcourse..... does it have holes and smell (potentially) :p: ?
Richard M
02-05-2005, 17:32
OK, time out! :erm: :Yikes:
OK, time out! :erm: :Yikes:
sorry.... i thought this thread was about men being salacious :p:
Monster Jedi
02-05-2005, 20:54
sorry.... i thought this thread was about men being salacious :p:
Me Never:D
allieyoung666
02-05-2005, 20:57
:Sprint: :Sprint: I thought this was about men??
Monster Jedi
02-05-2005, 21:16
:Sprint: :Sprint: I thought this was about men?? :redcard: :nono: :sniper:
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