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caveman
20-01-2005, 08:39
It may have nothing to do with it, but since the installation of my router, I have not had Liveupdate with NAV. There was a update today on Symantec site which I managed to DL OK manually.
Should I have to manually enter any data in the router for "Port Forwarding" for example, or it usual not to have to configure.
System - Win XP SP2, Netgear 614v3 and NAV 2004 Pro.

AndrewJ
20-01-2005, 09:46
Nothing personal mate, but loose nortons it is known for being bloatware, taking up massive resources, and being annoying.

As for liveupdate, when does it actually work.

Sorry just my view, make sure in your routers firewall liveupdate has been given the permissions needed to access the net.

TheBlueRaja
20-01-2005, 09:51
I wouldnt have thought so - i use a Linksys Wireless G router with Norton and have no problems.

If you double click on the NIS icon in your system tray - then click on Norton Antivirus on the left hand plane (working from Norton 2003 here) what does it say for Automatic Liveupdate? Is is On or Off? If it is off, try and switch it on. If this works - great - otherwise....

If it is off, type services.msc in Start -> run, then look down the list and check that the Task scheduler service is running. If it is not then right click on it and goto properties - set it to automatic if it is not already - if it is and its stopped come back and let us know - then click the start button.

If it starts sucessfully go back to your NIS screen and enable Automatic Liveupdate. (again if it dosent let us know)

This *should* work.

Mal
20-01-2005, 10:52
I had a problem recently with live update recently, not updating automatically, but you can update manually.

Try this (http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2001082115564506?Open&src=sg&docid=2001100616424406&nsf=sharedtech.nsf&view=d3c44a1678bd8f45852566aa005902cb/c72715f984bd92abc1256b840035f111?opendocument&prod=norton%20internet%20security&ver=2004%20for%20windows%2098/me/2000&dtype=&prod=Norton%20Internet%20Security&ver=2004%20for%20Windows%2098/Me/2000/XP&osv=&osv_lvl=) first.

If that doesn't work, try this (http://service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2001100616424406).

The second solution worked for me. A certain update kept reseting the task in scheduled tasks.

SOSAGES
20-01-2005, 12:11
nortons fine -

Open the following ports to enable Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition and LiveUpdate to work correctly:

UDP port 38293 -- Intel PDS listening for ping packets
UDP port 2967 -- RTVScan request to Winsock
TCP ports -- 80, 21, 443 - LiveUpdate
- personally i wouldnt open 80 21 or 443 seems a bit starnge it needs web server ftp and https ..

my NAV works fine though a router - im using 2003 but i imagine the live update software/engine is the same

2 things you can try.

Add your computers IP to the DMZ so basically the router dosnt do any firewall/port fowarding .

Remove router plug Modem to NIC of your pc.

in both cases see if Live update works .

Mal
20-01-2005, 12:22
The thing is, he won't find out if it works until the next update, which could be next Wednesday ;) :)

Though I've had no problems with liveupdate with my linksys router, my problem was with the scheduled tasks.

SOSAGES
20-01-2005, 12:24
he could uninstall it and reinstall then try liveupdate that will get it going :)

Mal
20-01-2005, 12:38
he could uninstall it and reinstall then try liveupdate that will get it going :)
Hmmm...you seem to have to do that a lot with norton... :)

altis
20-01-2005, 13:22
Which version of Norton do you have?

From, I guess, 1st January Symantec have stopped supporting SystemWorks with any version prior to 2004. If you want to use LiveUpdate then you must upgrade to the lastest version.

Alternatively, you can manually download and install the virus definitions from here:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/download.html

Edit:
RTFP :dozey:
"NAV 2004 Pro" - dunno then. Still you could try the manual download.

AndrewJ
20-01-2005, 13:28
And I have Zonealarm ( latest version ) and no issues, it works well with Avast! Home which works fine, with sp2 and without.

I moved from Nortons because of such issues, it wont do alot of things I wanted it to do. But the biggest thing which bugged me was the sheer amount of resources it takes on bootup and tasks it has running in background, and rather dubious worrying connections via ftp and http it tries to access.

Also the most annoying was the AV Nortons finding a virus and refuseing to let me click ok and shut down and boot into safe mode, by constantly going virus alert click ok to continue.. forcing me to hardboot the computer and then go into safe mode to do it myself.

Avast! just moves to chest, i delete job done. And if it needs safe mode it tells me and boots into it.

Personally I say dump Nortons its made for new users who aint famiilair to the internet and its troubles and programs, and for shops like PCworld to make money.

Mal
20-01-2005, 14:35
And I have Zonealarm ( latest version ) and no issues, it works well with Avast! Home which works fine, with sp2 and without.

I moved from Nortons because of such issues, it wont do alot of things I wanted it to do. But the biggest thing which bugged me was the sheer amount of resources it takes on bootup and tasks it has running in background, and rather dubious worrying connections via ftp and http it tries to access.

Also the most annoying was the AV Nortons finding a virus and refuseing to let me click ok and shut down and boot into safe mode, by constantly going virus alert click ok to continue.. forcing me to hardboot the computer and then go into safe mode to do it myself.

Avast! just moves to chest, i delete job done. And if it needs safe mode it tells me and boots into it.

Personally I say dump Nortons its made for new users who aint famiilair to the internet and its troubles and programs, and for shops like PCworld to make money.
The thing with the advice to dump Nortons is that they might not be able to afford to write the £30 odd quid it cost to buy it, off (obviously I don't know caveman's financial situation ;) :) ).
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What I mean by that is if you've spent the money, you want value from it and if it's just a minor problem that can be solved by asking here...

caveman
20-01-2005, 15:55
This problem I fear is not router related but due to the fast that I formatted and reinstalled everything recently on a few days before fitting the router. Because it is 2004 software, I fear that as said in a previous post Liveupdate will not work as it is installed in 2005 (although a reinstall). This is no big deal as I can manually update virus definitions, and as Symantec only update every 7 days that's no problem. If I do get the urge I will try some of the posssible cures.

Mal
20-01-2005, 16:22
Because it is 2004 software, I fear that as said in a previous post Liveupdate will not work as it is installed in 2005 (although a reinstall).
Symantec still support the 2004 version, so that shouldn't be the problem, reinstalling it in 2005. Check out those possible solutions from Symantec.

soneill
20-01-2005, 16:25
I am still getting updates for the 2002 version so I hope they are still supporting 2004!

JohnHorb
20-01-2005, 16:27
...In fact, unless they've closed this loophole in later versions, re-installing gets you another 12-month's free subscription!

ian@huth
20-01-2005, 16:28
I had a problem with Live Update stopping working but got it working again by downloading the latest version from http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/d3c44a1678bd8f45852566aa005902cb/04c2ba190354f623852569a70069150b?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam

Mal
20-01-2005, 16:36
...In fact, unless they've closed this loophole in later versions,
No, for 2004 anyway ;)

caveman
20-01-2005, 17:00
I had a problem recently with live update recently, not updating automatically, but you can update manually.

Try this first.

If that doesn't work, try this.

The second solution worked for me. A certain update kept reseting the task in scheduled tasks.

Right Mal I have gone with the Symantec fixes and tried the first one. The thing is I will have to wait a week to see if it works.
BTW why would I have an "Administrator" option for log-in, in Safe Mode, when I reinstalled XP as a sole user?

Mal
20-01-2005, 17:17
Right Mal I have gone with the Symantec fixes and tried the first one. The thing is I will have to wait a week to see if it works.
BTW why would I have an "Administrator" option for log-in, in Safe Mode, when I reinstalled XP as a sole user?
Well, it's just in case you did have another user with a limited account.

TheBlueRaja
20-01-2005, 19:26
In XP you ALWAYS have an Administrator account - its a default account which you cannot delete.

On one level, Its a get out of jail card if you manage to screw yours up.