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thunder
16-11-2004, 10:39
So NTL Telewest announce speed increases automatically to ALL punters.
NTL ask for £25 for existing users plus a cap.

Me thinks NTL will soon be changing it's mind.

Also NTL / Telewest merge circa OCT 2005 (top level insider NTL).

Tristan
16-11-2004, 15:21
So NTL Telewest announce speed increases automatically to ALL punters.
NTL ask for £25 for existing users plus a cap.

Me thinks NTL will soon be changing it's mind.

Also NTL / Telewest merge circa OCT 2005 (top level insider NTL).

Yes, but you get twice the speed per £ with NTL... we've been through this lots of times already.

On this one, NTL good, TW bad.

eshaq786
16-11-2004, 15:46
u cant just conclude that ntl are good and telewest are bad. i think ntl are bad and telewest are good but thats just my opinion. everyone is entitled to their own view and everyone maybe have different feelings about either of the company.

Rone
16-11-2004, 18:46
I just dont see the point of increasing speeds, then banging a cap on it.
Seems NTL want browsers, not people who download.
As ive mentioned before, i would rather pay a bit more and not have to worry i'm overdoing something.
I have 2 lads who have access to the other pc [connected via router] and they like to d\load anything from game demos, wallpaper, music and the eldest one no doubt, porn. ;)
I cannot be bothered measuring what all of us d\load all the time, to me the best company would think about me, the paying customer.

scrotnig
16-11-2004, 19:17
The 11th commandment (not widely publicised as the tablet was dropped on the way down the mountain):

"Thou shalt not start any more cap threads".

This commandment is actually described in the Bible thus:

And the Lord said, 'discusseth ye not the cap, for they who bite from the cap that feeds them shall be punished by eternal fire, brimstone and outbound sales calls. Let there be no cap threads, and the world will be made good". And Lo, there WERE no cap threads, until the seventh day, when the disciple UDT did bangeth on about it for all eternity. And the Lord said 'bugger this for a lark, I'm not doing any more work on the world while this crap's going on". And so he rested, and declared the seventh day the sabbath, and forever made it holy.

And that's how it happened.

I realise there are alternative versions of the story, but this one's legit.

Maggy
16-11-2004, 19:19
The 11th commandment (not widely publicised as the tablet was dropped on the way down the mountain):

"Thou shalt not start any more cap threads".

This commandment is actually described in the Bible thus:

And the Lord said, 'discusseth ye not the cap, for they who bite from the cap that feeds them shall be punished by eternal fire, brimstone and outbound sales calls. Let there be no cap threads, and the world will be made good". And Lo, there WERE no cap threads, until the seventh day, when the disciple UDT did bangeth on about it for all eternity. And the Lord said 'bugger this for a lark, I'm not doing any more work on the world while this crap's going on". And so he rested, and declared the seventh day the sabbath, and forever made it holy.

And that's how it happened.

I realise there are alternative versions of the story, but this one's legit.

Oh this deserves a greenie and as usual I've got to go be a slut for a while. :D

Nemesis
16-11-2004, 19:21
I'm gonna refer you to a recent post ... I'm not going to close this one .... yet, but I think it's relevant.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=339506&postcount=54

paulyoung666
16-11-2004, 19:56
Oh this deserves a greenie and as usual I've got to go be a slut for a while. :D



duly done for me and you ;) :D :D :D

Rone
16-11-2004, 21:33
Ok then.
Telewest sounds better to me than ntl. :)

gary_580
16-11-2004, 21:45
So NTL Telewest announce speed increases automatically to ALL punters.
NTL ask for £25 for existing users plus a cap.

Me thinks NTL will soon be changing it's mind.

Also NTL / Telewest merge circa OCT 2005 (top level insider NTL).

But Telewest and NTL dont cover the same areas and therefore are not in competition are they?

LooeyUK
16-11-2004, 22:12
But Telewest and NTL dont cover the same areas and therefore are not in competition are they?

Correct. You can only either get Ntl or Telewest

Ignition
16-11-2004, 23:39
This commandment is actually described in the Bible thus:
And the Lord said, 'discusseth ye not the cap, for they who bite from the cap that feeds them shall be punished by eternal fire, brimstone and outbound sales calls. Let there be no cap threads, and the world will be made good". And Lo, there WERE no cap threads, until the seventh day, when the disciple UDT did bangeth on about it for all eternity. And the Lord said 'bugger this for a lark, I'm not doing any more work on the world while this crap's going on". And so he rested, and declared the seventh day the sabbath, and forever made it holy.

That is absolutely brilliant, I will rep you whenever possible just on principle that you have made the funniest post I have seen on this forum to date :D

orangebird
17-11-2004, 09:46
The 11th commandment (not widely publicised as the tablet was dropped on the way down the mountain):

"Thou shalt not start any more cap threads".

This commandment is actually described in the Bible thus:

And the Lord said, 'discusseth ye not the cap, for they who bite from the cap that feeds them shall be punished by eternal fire, brimstone and outbound sales calls. Let there be no cap threads, and the world will be made good". And Lo, there WERE no cap threads, until the seventh day, when the disciple UDT did bangeth on about it for all eternity. And the Lord said 'bugger this for a lark, I'm not doing any more work on the world while this crap's going on". And so he rested, and declared the seventh day the sabbath, and forever made it holy.

And that's how it happened.

I realise there are alternative versions of the story, but this one's legit.

:rofl: :rofl: :clap: Can someone please greenie Mark B for me too?

Florence
17-11-2004, 09:57
Done OB must admit it was a great way to finish the thread.

gary_580
17-11-2004, 09:58
Correct. You can only either get Ntl or Telewest

So it makes the whole comparison of NTL and Telewest pointless really

Neil
17-11-2004, 10:06
So it makes the whole comparison of NTL and Telewest pointless really

Yep!

Something we've been saying for a looooooong time!

Chrysalis
25-11-2004, 23:28
well they dont compete but doing the comparison shows that why can one company provide more for your money then the other.

Quick comparison
NTL Providing higher download burst speeds per £ + NTL
Telewest Providing higher upload speeds + Telewest
Telewest Providing a 4mbit service + Telewest
Telewest have no download cap + Telewest
Telewest are not charging a admin fee + Telewest
Telewest are doing it in a shorter time scale (announced later starting earlier) + Telewest

The reason people are bringing up the comparison's is to show how poorly ntl is running thing's, ntl is a bigger company then telewest so in thoery should be able to provide more as it is running stuff larger scale.

This brings up the question, should cable companies be competing with each other?

Ignition
26-11-2004, 00:14
This brings up the question, should cable companies be competing with each other?

Tricky considering that to do so you need to start building your own network in the other company's area. Also the minor issue that both companies are going to be one company in the not too distant future, not much point in them going bankrupt trying to compete with each other really :)

Sadly the only competition is where you are deciding between a Telewest and an ntl area, if everything else is equal.

In which case personally I'd take Telewest too *hides* ;)

I should really qualify my remarks, I'm a speed junkie even though I don't actually download very much. In various other scenarios ntl offer more per £ - which will appeal to the majority, and as ntl are bigger that's their target market.

NTL Providing higher download burst speeds per £ + NTL

Is all that matters to the majority, note Wanadoo's rise in popularity since they made 1Mbit their standard product, massive customer uptake even with the bandwidth limits.

Chrysalis
26-11-2004, 01:53
Well NTL and other isp's such as wanadoo know the average person has little clue about download traffic, I am the only member of my family who know's what a gigabit is and who knows what it means to have said cap. So in essence its taking advantage of the public's lack of knowledge, however with that been said I want to point out this isnt a rap at ntl for cap's most isp's are playing the same game. Wanadoo and btopenworld are the most popular because of aggressive advertising, I would guess AOL is also popular due to advertising, like most things like this people just look at the price and sign up for that, 12 months down the line when they start hitting their traffic limit's and get overage bill's (wanadoo limit very low) things will change. NTL's limit is not so extreme so I think it will take a while before a lot of people start hitting it hence you are right their product's do indeed suit most of the market, I just wish that power user's were catered for as well, residental product priced between the £50 and £75 mark with 3 figure traffic limit or unmetered. Also might make more people switch over if they only charged the admin fee when new hardware needed.

Ignition
01-12-2004, 12:56
Telewest's upgrades have begun....

http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=blueyonder&Number=1526277&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

danielf
01-12-2004, 23:53
Telewest's upgrades have begun....

http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=blueyonder&Number=1526277&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0&fpart=


Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:49:48 UTC
1st 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1122 ms = 116820 Bytes/sec = approx 972 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1101 ms = 119048 Bytes/sec = approx 990 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 982 ms = 133475 Bytes/sec = approx 1111 kbits/sec


On the former 750k on Telewest :)

Chrysalis
02-12-2004, 00:34
so I heard, I seen someone showing of his 4mbit earlier.

Telewest don't mess about.

Dave Stones
08-12-2004, 13:38
yep, got my telewest upgrade now :) from the modem log:

2004-12-08 02:50:52 6-Notice 0x041D0318 SW Download INIT - Via Config file cm-1024-128

eshaq786
08-12-2004, 19:48
looks like telewest have beaten NTL once again on the rollout of the new speeds. telewest dont hang about like NTL do. Birmingham just got upgraded today so it shouldnt be long before the whole country is done while NTL havent even started the upgrades....:rolleyes: tough luck u NTL guys out there

p.s. dont post here arguing about NTL has better speeds and start of another thread about caps, etc.

paulyoung666
08-12-2004, 20:45
looks like telewest have beaten NTL once again on the rollout of the new speeds. telewest dont hang about like NTL do. Birmingham just got upgraded today so it shouldnt be long before the whole country is done while NTL havent even started the upgrades....:rolleyes: tough luck u NTL guys out there

p.s. dont post here arguing about NTL has better speeds and start of another thread about caps, etc.


if i want to i will , and anyway who gave you the right to rub our ( ntl peeps ) noses in it ;)

Maggy
08-12-2004, 20:55
Oh this thread is already getting boring.Time to unsubcribe. :)

LooeyUK
08-12-2004, 21:33
Oh this thread is already getting boring.Time to unsubcribe. :)

LOL, just what im about to do.

Chrysalis
09-12-2004, 02:00
nothing boring about seeing how far ahead telewest are in pleasing customers.

eshaq786
09-12-2004, 10:33
nothing boring about seeing how far ahead telewest are in pleasing customers.i'm with u on that.:tu:

dpjnr
20-12-2004, 04:31
Same company diff franchise

dpjnr
20-12-2004, 04:45
NTl and Telewest (Merge) paper work already done

MovedGoalPosts
20-12-2004, 12:21
Received from Telewest today:

Immediate release: 20 December 2004

New Year, new speeds
Telewest Broadband completes bandwidth upgrades in double-quick time

Telewest Broadband has today completed the bandwidth upgrades of its
existing broadband internet services - permanently boosting the speed of its
connections at no extra cost.

The upgrade programme has taken six weeks to complete with existing 750Kb,
1.5Mb and 3Mb blueyonder internet customers receiving faster access speeds
automatically, with no need for new equipment and no additional fees.

The flagship 3Mb service has become an even faster 4Mb connection with the
upstream increased to 384Kb, the 1.5Mb service has had a boost to 2Mb and
the standard 750Kb service has increased to 1Mb. The entry-level 256Kb
service remains unchanged.

Eric Tveter, president and chief operating officer at Telewest Broadband,
said: "We wanted to get the upgrades delivered in readiness for the holiday
break and our blueyonder team has really pulled out the stops to get this
present delivered ahead of time.

"Our broadband internet customers can now sit back and relax, safe in the
knowledge that they can surf into the New Year with faster speeds at no
extra cost."

Consumers can find out more about Telewest Broadband's bundle of broadband
internet, digital TV and telephone services at www.telewest.co.uk or call
0800 953 5000.

Shows ntl how it should be done, no caps, no metering, and rolled out without any fuss or prevarication. If only I lived in a Telewest area.

Neil
20-12-2004, 15:36
Received from Telewest today:



Shows ntl how it should be done, no caps, no metering, and rolled out without any fuss or prevarication. If only I lived in a Telewest area.

That sums it all up really.

Well done Telewest. :tu:

There are ntl customers that still haven't been upgraded yet-so much for "Late Summer" :rolleyes: :td:

Chrysalis
20-12-2004, 20:27
will probably take NTL a few months, many area's wont have capacity for it etc.

DieDieMyDarling
21-12-2004, 11:40
I feel sorry for telewest customers, as soon as the merger happens they're gonna be exposed to the exact opposite of what they have now. But for the mean time, i just wish to hell i was in a telewest area!!!!

eshaq786
21-12-2004, 12:41
If service quality drops and we get things like caps on telewest then i for one will be leaving them. I so dont want a merger to happen if its gonna mean crapper service.

Stuart
27-12-2004, 23:23
That sums it all up really.

Well done Telewest. :tu:

There are ntl customers that still haven't been upgraded yet-so much for "Late Summer" :rolleyes: :td:
True, it's certainly not late summer, but bear in mind that Telewest's network is a fraction of the size of NTLs. Also, as I believe YOU stated in another thread, not all Telewest areas offer the same speeds...

creed74
07-01-2005, 01:31
I ask a question when are Telewest going to increase there uplaod speed to the standard 256k. I can understand the limit on the 256 but not on 1Mb with 128k. It's just poor show!!

dpjnr
07-01-2005, 02:59
you can be sure TW will only thrive in the BBI world there is a lot more too come
to quote a song "anything you can do i can do better"
(i being TW you Being TW competitors.) there really is more to come

eshaq786
07-01-2005, 13:34
In the next set(s) of speed upgrades in 2005 (and there is deffinitely going to be more upgrades so they can compete with LLU with 2005 being known as the year of LLU) you can expect Telewest to increase speeds. Their 4mb may as much as double to 8mb and if it doubles then they will be doubling their other speeds too. If ADSL2/ADSL2+ is used then the speeds will be as much as 15mb+ and if there is a large coverage of exchanges with ADSL2/ADSL2+ then Telewest will have to upgrade speeds and that can only be good for end users.

Recently i advised a friend as to what ISP to get for broadband and i recommended Telewest instead of ADSL ISPs. I told him that if you go with Telewest then as speeds improve in 2005 with ADSL, Telewest will also improve speeds automatically for you whereas if you were with an ADSL ISP then you would have to change packaes and possibly sign a new contract and cause much hassle. Also i told him routers are cheaper since u dont need a built in modem into the router like ADSL to use a router, you just need a normal router which you plug the cable modem via ethernet into. This way worked out much cheaper for him rather than buying a built in modem router or a ADSL ethernet modem and a router.

ian@huth
07-01-2005, 13:48
The problem with cable broadband is that the higher you raise the speeds, the greater the chance of heavy users affecting the service of others. A lot of UBRs are not problematic if they only have a few heavy users but can be problematic if those users are given much higher speeds and particularly if given much higher upload speeds.

eshaq786
07-01-2005, 16:54
But everytime they upgrade speeds, they also upgrade the network so that it can cope with heavy users. They are undoubtely prepared for heavy users since they market their products as unlimited. Any new speed upgrades may need further upgrades so they can cope with the heavy users and it will be the heavy users who go for the faster services. People who check their email won't go for a 4mbit service.

If they do eventually upgrade the network to DOCSIS 2.0 then they will be able to increase speeds much further and also increase upload without affecting quality of service. I have a feeling they will start deploying DOCSIS 2.0 after all areas have been upgraded to digital and then area by area they will start deploying DOCSIS 2.0.

Tristan
07-01-2005, 19:03
Received from Telewest today:



Shows ntl how it should be done, no caps, no metering, and rolled out without any fuss or prevarication. If only I lived in a Telewest area.

But if you lived in a Telewest area, you'd have only a 256k connection instead of 300, and only be able to download 750MB a day as opposed to roughly 1GB with NTL.

What was your point again?

Stuart
07-01-2005, 19:06
But if you lived in a Telewest area, you'd have only a 256k connection instead of 300, and only be able to download 750MB a day as opposed to roughly 1GB with NTL.

What was your point again?


What's that old saying? The grass is always greener?

Tristan
07-01-2005, 19:08
What's that old saying? The grass is always greener?

Ah, but then I get to see both sides of the fence.

Know what? The grass is exactly the same colour ;)

Stuart
07-01-2005, 19:09
Ah, but then I get to see both sides of the fence.

Know what? The grass is exactly the same colour ;)


Agreed. A lot of people don't see it that way though..

Ignition
07-01-2005, 19:33
But everytime they upgrade speeds, they also upgrade the network so that it can cope with heavy users. They are undoubtely prepared for heavy users since they market their products as unlimited. Any new speed upgrades may need further upgrades so they can cope with the heavy users and it will be the heavy users who go for the faster services. People who check their email won't go for a 4mbit service.

If they do eventually upgrade the network to DOCSIS 2.0 then they will be able to increase speeds much further and also increase upload without affecting quality of service. I have a feeling they will start deploying DOCSIS 2.0 after all areas have been upgraded to digital and then area by area they will start deploying DOCSIS 2.0.

Strewth you're following on nicely from the material you spout on ADSLGuide, posting your guesses and predictions. It's like sharing a forum with Mystic Meg. '...tomorrow when Mars and Uranus come into conjunction Telewest customers will be getting VoD and 20Mbit tooooooo'

Right, Telewest got the upgrades done so quickly because there weren't any special upgrades. Their plans for the next year or so are not focussed on broadband particularly, VOD will be their major project for this year, along with a few other things.

ADSL2+ still isn't part of the ANFP, LLU is becoming more widespread but nonetheless 4Mbit is competitive, and if Telewest double everything without caps and/or price increases and are offering 8Mbit to consumers this year I'll show my arse in St Mary's.

DOCSIS 2 doesn't do anything to downstream speeds, you have no idea what you're talking about and your posts are supposition based on no fact at all. You are consistently putting down ntl and bigging up Telewest to all and sundry on another forum without any basis in fact. (For the curious http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk )

May I politely suggest you actually take the time to learn what DOCSIS 2 is rather than guessing and going by a couple of forum posts. http://www.cablemodem.com/

EDIT: I know I'm not as brave as Bill in where I'm going to show my arse, another arse on the pitch as St Mary's probably won't be noticed, but I have a rep to protect and all that :)

eshaq786
07-01-2005, 23:37
and if Telewest double everything without caps and/or price increases and are offering 8Mbit to consumers this year I'll show my arse in St Mary's.
I hope you don't back out of your promise of showing your ass in St Mary's because I think you will be showing your ass this year. Can't wait.

Ignition
08-01-2005, 01:09
I hope you don't back out of your promise of showing your ass in St Mary's because I think you will be showing your ass this year. Can't wait.

Haha for reasons that I'm not going into I'm quite safe young man. You forget who I work for, and the slim possibility that I might know people in Telewest engineering who are looking at the 'things to do' list for the next year, rather than just misunderstanding the technology and guessing :)

EDIT: I do however find the fact you can't wait to see my arse mildly disturbing though :disturbd:

Chrysalis
08-01-2005, 17:33
umm telewest already doubled everything last year with no caps/price rise so why rule it out again this year?

andrew_wallasey
08-01-2005, 18:34
u cant just conclude that ntl are good and telewest are bad. i think ntl are bad and telewest are good but thats just my opinion. everyone is entitled to their own view and everyone maybe have different feelings about either of the company.
Is what you said not a complete contradiction?

andrew_wallasey
08-01-2005, 18:37
looks like telewest have beaten NTL once again on the rollout of the new speeds. telewest dont hang about like NTL do. Birmingham just got upgraded today so it shouldnt be long before the whole country is done while NTL havent even started the upgrades....:rolleyes: tough luck u NTL guys out there

p.s. dont post here arguing about NTL has better speeds and start of another thread about caps, etc.
Of course it will take NTL longer, it has multiple networks running on different platforms. NTL has a lot bigger network than Telewest so it is obviously going to take them longer. Just because the user does not receive the speed upgrade it does not mean they are not being done. :confused:

andrew_wallasey
08-01-2005, 18:40
In the next set(s) of speed upgrades in 2005 (and there is deffinitely going to be more upgrades so they can compete with LLU with 2005 being known as the year of LLU) you can expect Telewest to increase speeds. Their 4mb may as much as double to 8mb and if it doubles then they will be doubling their other speeds too. If ADSL2/ADSL2+ is used then the speeds will be as much as 15mb+ and if there is a large coverage of exchanges with ADSL2/ADSL2+ then Telewest will have to upgrade speeds and that can only be good for end users.

Recently i advised a friend as to what ISP to get for broadband and i recommended Telewest instead of ADSL ISPs. I told him that if you go with Telewest then as speeds improve in 2005 with ADSL, Telewest will also improve speeds automatically for you whereas if you were with an ADSL ISP then you would have to change packaes and possibly sign a new contract and cause much hassle. Also i told him routers are cheaper since u dont need a built in modem into the router like ADSL to use a router, you just need a normal router which you plug the cable modem via ethernet into. This way worked out much cheaper for him rather than buying a built in modem router or a ADSL ethernet modem and a router.
So you think they are going to increase the speeds again :confused: :confused: There is hardly any LLU providers in the UK. Telewest might add faster but I seriously doubt the speeds will be upgraded much more (if at all) in the next 12 months

andrew_wallasey
08-01-2005, 18:42
But everytime they upgrade speeds, they also upgrade the network so that it can cope with heavy users. They are undoubtely prepared for heavy users since they market their products as unlimited. Any new speed upgrades may need further upgrades so they can cope with the heavy users and it will be the heavy users who go for the faster services. People who check their email won't go for a 4mbit service.

If they do eventually upgrade the network to DOCSIS 2.0 then they will be able to increase speeds much further and also increase upload without affecting quality of service. I have a feeling they will start deploying DOCSIS 2.0 after all areas have been upgraded to digital and then area by area they will start deploying DOCSIS 2.0.
where did you buy your crystal ball from?













You ought to take it back for a refund :rolleyes:

Stuart
08-01-2005, 19:29
umm telewest already doubled everything last year with no caps/price rise so why rule it out again this year?
If Ignition knows people within Telewest (and I don't know if he does, but as he works in the industry it's entirely possible he does), then he probably knows more than most people about what's going on in Telewest.

andrew_wallasey
08-01-2005, 19:32
umm telewest already doubled everything last year with no caps/price rise so why rule it out again this year?
My god people are thick :rolleyes:

Chrysalis
08-01-2005, 20:34
The thick ones are the people who think a fat pipe with low traffic limit is great value for money.

Stuart
08-01-2005, 20:41
The thick ones are the people who think a fat pipe with low traffic limit is great value for money.
So anyone who disagrees with you is thick?

eshaq786
09-01-2005, 03:12
So anyone who disagrees with you is thick?
Anyone who agrees is clever so i agree.

andrew_wallasey
09-01-2005, 03:56
People have to disagree otherwise everyone would **think** they are right. To say you have an opinion on something does not mean you are entitled to say that becuase its your opininon. I could say in my opininon 2 + 2 is 5 does that make it right?

Stuart
09-01-2005, 04:44
Anyone who agrees is clever so i agree.

:erm: no.... Agreeing with someone doesn't mean you are clever. All it means you agree with them..

pudz
09-01-2005, 15:36
I've had TW for 4years now, my nets been down twice for less than 12 hours each time - once due to a screwed up modem, that they replaced the same day.

NTL customers generally get terrible service form what I've heard, I have friends with them and its dreadful - one of my friends has had his NTL connection for same time I've had my TW one tho, and he's never paid a penny, they're obviously clued up!

OpJ
21-01-2005, 18:55
Just wondering why these forums never discuss the appalling upload speeds on offer (128kbps for tw '1Mb' service and only 256 for their '2Mb'). I'm trying to setup a streaming service on my home PC so I can listen to all my music at work and the capacity on my 1Mb link is too pathetic. Does anyone know of any intnetion to increase upload speed at anytime soon?

Ignition
21-01-2005, 19:15
Nothing really comes to mind, but surely if a product isn't up to your needs you should consider a different one, such as the 2Mbit product, rather than waiting for the product to accomodate you?

JohnHorb
21-01-2005, 19:18
Just wondering why these forums never discuss the appalling upload speeds on offer (128kbps for tw '1Mb' service and only 256 for their '2Mb').
'Never discuss' - you must be joking! Having said that, the service is not designed to support use as a server - streaming or otherwise. AFIAK 'Server' applications are tolerated, provided they do not result in degraded service for others, but are not what the service (or infrastructure) are designed for.

:welcome: to the site, BTW

atlantic-crossin
22-01-2005, 03:09
I dont want to get in an argument of Telewest VS NTL
BUT!
If your saying NTL offer faster connection for less money and yet they cap it and do free speed increses for you doesnt that tell you they want you to run up your limits quicker???

However on NTL's defence they are a bigger company than Telewest and can quite easily do this

eshaq786
22-01-2005, 14:52
I cant imagine being on the NTL soon to be 1mb with 5gb cap. I've already used 20gb in less than a week downloading stuff on Telewest's 1mb. I'm glad Telewests 1mb is unlimited. I dont think NTL's top tier would even work for me. Hope Telewest don't go down the capping route.

creed74
09-02-2005, 19:39
I cant imagine being on the NTL soon to be 1mb with 5gb cap. I've already used 20gb in less than a week downloading stuff on Telewest's 1mb. I'm glad Telewests 1mb is unlimited. I dont think NTL's top tier would even work for me. Hope Telewest don't go down the capping route.

I agree I would hit the limt in a couple of days but I do wish it had a better upload!