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Ramrod
19-08-2003, 17:05
Asus, Leadtek, MSI and Creative are all doing these for about £400. Is there any real difference between these cards and their performance or are they much the same? Anyone know?:confused:

Bifta
19-08-2003, 17:14
Go for the Leadtek, the performance differences are nominal but I've found Leadtek is normally better quality and offers a better software bundle.

Ramrod
19-08-2003, 18:27
Even if I have an Asus mobo?

KingPhoenix
19-08-2003, 18:51
Just out of curiosity, what are you doing that requires a fx5900 256mb??

Bifta
19-08-2003, 18:57
Originally posted by Ramrod
Even if I have an Asus mobo?

Doesn't matter, I had a Gigabyte Radeon 9700 pro on a Gigabyte 7VAXP motherboard and there were no speed or stability differences when I swapped to a Chaintec Nforce 2 motherboard.

Bifta
19-08-2003, 18:58
Originally posted by KingPhoenix
Just out of curiosity, what are you doing that requires a fx5900 256mb??

Playing games as they're meant to be played?

idi banashapan
19-08-2003, 19:09
Originally posted by Bifta
Playing games as they're meant to be played?

That is reason enough!!! - go buy that card!!!!!!!!!

Ramrod
19-08-2003, 19:34
Originally posted by KingPhoenix
Just out of curiosity, what are you doing that requires a fx5900 256mb?? Gaming:D ....oh all right, and I have pretentions to winning any pi**ing competitions:D

Ramrod
19-08-2003, 21:33
Originally posted by Bifta
Playing games as they're meant to be played?
and if you have money to burn:D

paulyoung666
19-08-2003, 22:29
Originally posted by Ramrod
and if you have money to burn:D

or have more money than sense :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jerrek
20-08-2003, 05:55
Wow, those go for about 320 pounds here.

I'd get a Radeon instead... :) The 9800 Pro 256MB looks very nice, and they go for about 290 pounds here.

timewarrior2001
20-08-2003, 09:10
Originally posted by Bifta
Playing games as they're meant to be played?

If thats how you think they are meant to be played you would be horrified to discover the specs of the hardware thye are written on.

Ramrod
21-08-2003, 22:52
Is this (http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_detail.asp?stype=5&productcode=1511-4020&group=AGPNV&pgroup=VID&ref_site=kelkoo) any good. Considering that it's made by a company I've never heard of......but the price is good:)

Lord Nikon
22-08-2003, 06:46
For my money NVidia outstrips Ati any & every day

Remember, Nvidia are the people behind the NForce Chipset

I have used NVidia chipset graphics cards for Many years and have no complaints whatsoever :) Fast, smooth, reliable, graphics engine is awesome, what more can I say?

Also, if you have a TFT monitor with an auto setup button, they have a flat panel calibration screen in their drivers :)

Ramrod
22-08-2003, 15:46
Originally posted by Jerrek
Wow, those go for about 320 pounds here.

I'd get a Radeon instead... :) The 9800 Pro 256MB looks very nice, and they go for about 290 pounds here. mmmm, but I still like nvidia, sorry:)

timewarrior2001
22-08-2003, 16:21
I'm Nvidia through and through, but ATI's technology should be kicking Nvidias ass and it isnt.
It has to be poor drivers, theres no other explanation.
However Nvidia make very powerfull budget cards and thats why i love them so much.

Ramrod
22-08-2003, 16:32
Yes but is that card I linked to in post#13 any good?:cry: :D
....anyone??

paulyoung666
22-08-2003, 17:03
try this (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/) , look on the labs section , it seems to give a good comparison of cards ;)

Ramrod
22-08-2003, 18:44
Originally posted by paulyoung666
try this (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/) , look on the labs section , it seems to give a good comparison of cards ;) Cheers for that m8 but, interesting reading but it's not on there:(

paulyoung666
22-08-2003, 18:47
whoops i thought it was :mad:
but did you see anything that would work for you at the price you want ?????????????????
:)

Ramrod
22-08-2003, 18:57
Originally posted by paulyoung666
whoops i thought it was :mad:
but did you see anything that would work for you at the price you want ?????????????????
:) WaaaaWaaaaa.....no:cry:
I want a price as close to £300 as possible but at the back of my mind is the mantra: 'you get what you pay for':(

paulyoung666
22-08-2003, 19:00
Originally posted by Ramrod
WaaaaWaaaaa.....no:cry:
I want a price as close to £300 as possible but at the back of my mind is the mantra: 'you get what you pay for':(

how about waiting a couple of months then ??????????
the way i see it prices are dropping like a stone all the time , i reckon in 6 months time you will be able to get 512mb ram on a graphics card for the same price you pay now for 256mb :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Ramrod
22-08-2003, 19:09
Originally posted by paulyoung666
how about waiting a couple of months then ??????????
the way i see it prices are dropping like a stone all the time , i reckon in 6 months time you will be able to get 512mb ram on a graphics card for the same price you pay now for 256mb :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: I've already waited a couple of months:(

paulyoung666
22-08-2003, 19:32
Originally posted by Ramrod
I've already waited a couple of months:(

fair play my mate :)

danielf
22-08-2003, 19:35
Originally posted by Ramrod
WaaaaWaaaaa.....no:cry:
I want a price as close to £300 as possible but at the back of my mind is the mantra: 'you get what you pay for':(

You can always consider the 'law of diminishing returns'

paulyoung666
22-08-2003, 19:37
Originally posted by danielf
You can always consider the 'law of diminishing returns'


looks as though this is a good case of that :( :(

Ramrod
22-08-2003, 23:36
Originally posted by paulyoung666
looks as though this is a good case of that :( :( Yes, but buying a cutting edge GPU is always like that. The trick is to get the balance just right:D

Jarandco
24-08-2003, 21:15
Very nice card - its the daddy of all cards at the moment i mite geth the fx 5600 256mb bit cheaper lol!

and the ati 9800 pro 256mb isnt worth the dosh might aswell just get the 128mb one and www.tomshardware.com is a good place to read up about cards!

Exulus
24-08-2003, 21:53
i have the geforce fx 5200 built into my new laptop, its pretty nice :D

Havent tried many games on it though but most stuff runs smooth, the chameleon demo works nicely, however some others run jerky (the fire demon demo or whatever).

I plan on getting 3dmark soon to test it out properly :) Does anyone know where i can get the old 2002/01 version of whatever it was? I cant seem to find any links :(

MadGamer
25-08-2003, 13:28
I have to agree with Lord Nikon there ive got a TFT Flat panel monitor with an nvidia Geforce 4 graphics card. Works very nice

Xaccers
25-08-2003, 13:31
In my day we were glad to have CGA.
EGA was really showing off!

Stuart
25-08-2003, 13:55
Originally posted by paulyoung666
how about waiting a couple of months then ??????????
the way i see it prices are dropping like a stone all the time , i reckon in 6 months time you will be able to get 512mb ram on a graphics card for the same price you pay now for 256mb :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I remember a piece of advice I was given years ago about computing.

Basically, if you wait a couple of months for a more advanced card, you will always be waiting for a more advanced card. There is always something more powerful round the corner.

ZrByte
25-08-2003, 14:06
Ramrod: that Inno 3d card you where looking at... Im using an Inno3D GF4 Ti4200 and it actually just underperforms compared to my friends Creative Ti4400 and I have never had a problem with the card yet so I would reccomend them to anyone it was also about £50 cheaper then the nearest brand when I bought it however I seem to remember somebody on these boards hating them with a passion (Could have been Richard M) He may have had a bad experience with the cards or knows someone who has, or maybe most are faulty and I was just lucky, who knows?? :shrug:
Its just like I know people who swear by PNY 3D Cards yet the one I used, the heatsinks where attached with a non Heatproof double sided sticky tape so when the card built up any kind of heat the heatsinks would fall off :eek:
This fried my friends Network card and damned nearly took the motherboard with it. Apparently they dont attach the heatsinks like this anymore but if they are willing to do something like that to cut costs who knows what other corners they may have cut with building materials.

ZrByte
25-08-2003, 14:52
I plan on getting 3dmark soon to test it out properly Does anyone know where i can get the old 2002/01 version of whatever it was? I cant seem to find any links

I couldnt be bothered finding the links so I put it on my webspace, enjoy :D
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/zrbyte/3DMark2001SE.exe