Doom III - summer 2004!

[Richard M]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040511/sftu128_1.html
Windows + Linux :beer:

[TheBlueRaja]

SANTA MONICA, Calif., May 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Activision, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI - News) confirmed today that id Software's highly delayed DOOM 3(TM), will be released when it's ready. The latest installment in one of the most over-hyped franchises in gaming history, DOOM 3 utilizes id's three generation old 3D graphics engine to draw low polygon models in the most frighteningly stupid gaming experience ever created.

"DOOM 3 is the most delayed PC game of the year and fans around the world are fed up of waiting for its release," Ron Doonink, CEO, Activision Publishing. "Id was delivering the most compelling horror gaming experience in 1998, so don't hold your breath for DOOM."

"This summer we're sending game fans on a first-class trip to Mars -- so they STFU about how long development has taken," said Todd Hollenshead, CEO, id Software. "DOOM 3 is coming to the PC and delivering the most overdue, overhyped and visually impaired gaming experience ever conceived."

Mixed signals here....

[Richard M]

:erm:
I'm not sure where you got that from but the official release says this:
""This summer we're sending game fans on a first-class trip to Mars -- with a layover in Hell," said Todd Hollenshead, CEO, id Software. "DOOM 3 is coming to the PC and delivering the most atmospheric, terrifying and visually mind-blowing gaming experience ever conceived.""

[TheBlueRaja]

Looks like someone is being constructive with the language used.... ;)

(No It wasnt me)

[Richard M]

:blush:
I can't believe I didn't read the rest of it - I would have realised someone was taking the mick.
:dunce:

[TheBlueRaja]

LOL,
That what i was thinking right after you posted your comment.

:D

Funny tho.

[jamesclarke555]

http://www.gameslave.co.uk/content/doom3preview/page1.cfm

[jamesclarke555]

http://www.gameslave.co.uk/content/doom3preview/page1.cfm
:rolleyes: That preview guy doesn't know what he's talking about...

Anyway, it's done, done and I mean done!

http://www.users.qwest.net/~amerrill/doomscanfull.jpg

1st or 2nd week in August is echoing from the hills...

[Richard M]

Amazon and Play.com have dates of August 14th I think.

[TheBlueRaja]

Hmmm,
I hope they dont release Half-Life 2 at the same time, other wise Doom 3 can kiss my shiny metal ass.

[Neil]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/495/495987p1.html

Hmmm-Time to replace my Geforce 4 ti methinks....:blush:

Any (sensible) recommendations? :)

[Richard M]

A Radeon 9800 Pro:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/9700_to_9800_Series.html
They are faster than even the NVidia FX5950 in most games and are ridiculously cheap at the moment.

If you want the ultimate card, then get one of these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/X800_Series.html
I'm waiting for the Sapphire X800XT to become available at the bottom of the page myself... :)
Forget NVidia, they cost about £100 more for less performance. :confused:

[jamesclarke555]

A Radeon 9800 Pro:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/9700_to_9800_Series.html
They are faster than even the NVidia FX5950 in most games and are ridiculously cheap at the moment.

If you want the ultimate card, then get one of these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/X800_Series.html
I'm waiting for the Sapphire X800XT to become available at the bottom of the page myself... :)
Forget NVidia, they cost about £100 more for less performance. :confused:
While I wouldn't recommend NVIDIA for last generation, the GeForce 6800 GT is by far the best "bang for buck" purchase this summer...period!

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=63449

[jamesclarke555]

Hope they release a DVD version for the UK ;)

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Bob644-doom3.jpg

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh and same goes for HL2...

http://fear.gamevision-network.de/hl2coverandcds.jpg

[Stephen]

Those pics are fakes some bloke on an other forum made them up, if you look closely it is even the same picture with more than a little photoshopping done, the lightng is identical on both shots and the desk/keyboard are lined up in frame exactly the same! However they do look quite nice. I gree about there being a DVD version after all Farcry and UT2k4 had cd and DVD versions.

[TheBlueRaja]

When i looked at that fan-art of the box shot - i did wonder how it was that they could have already had a quote for the box from a magazine review.

Given that its not been reviewd yet as AFAIK.

[TheBlueRaja]

Just announced on the Rage3D forums is that Doom 3 has scored an astounding 94% in the latest issue of PC Gamer, which has just shipped to subscribers. They say the atmosphere rocks and that the graphics are top notch, but the few attempts at humor fall short. Nonetheless, they say it's a must buy!

You can check out a scan of the mag's front cover here: Click (http://www.andresbecerra.com/ShackUpload/Files/PCGSeptCover.jpg)

Rage3D Forum link
Here (http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33769327)

Also included is a scan from a GamePro Ad
Notice the "M" rating at the bottom right corner. ESRB usually reviews games subsequent to their completion apparently.

Here (http://d3c.ngz-network.de/comment.php?75)

[TheBlueRaja]

Heres the news you have all been waiting for...

id Software's Todd Hollenshead has updated his plan file with the eagerly anticipated news that DOOM 3 has gone gold, and will be officially released in the U.S. on August 5:

Quote:
"IT'S DONE!!!!!!!

Yes, this is the official word that DOOM 3 has been code released and has been approved for manufacturing! It won't be long now until the anticipation ends and the PH34R begins We literally just hung up with Activision and have confirmed that our latest release candidate has been mutually approved and is finally GOLD. Thanks to everyone for their patience (yeah right! =) and for everyone at id, Activision and our numerous partners for helping us create what I believe is absolutely the best game we have ever made.

So, the next question is release dates. Retailers in the States will be allowed to pick up games starting at 12:01 AM on August 3rd. The official street date is actually August 5th in the U.S.A., but some of your favorite stores will probably have it early for those of you who have to have it first. Check with your local retailer for that information.

Internationally, the game will take a few more days to make it to the store shelves. The UK will probably get it first, on or about August 6th. Everywhere else will probably be Friday, August 13th (que Twilight Zone Theme) or close to that date, with just a few exceptions (e.g. Russia and Poland). This isn't because we don't have love for you folks outside the U.S., but the localization and manufacturing process takes a bit longer outside the U.S. where we will have JVC run 24/7 to get the units built. I guess the European manufacturers prefer to give their employees nights and weekends off. Go figure!

The champagne is flowing here at id and smiles abound!

I'll update again with some DOOM 3 preparation tips (not what hardware to buy - you'll have to wait for a programmer for that sort of thing). In the meantime, I want to see those "DOOM 3 GOLD!!!" threads set new records for swamping message board servers, destroying productivity, and post counts

Recapping today's headlines....DOOM 3 GOLD!!!"

[Neil]

Doom 3 will not be released on a DVD, instead it will be shipped on either three of four standard CDs, with id CEO Todd Hollenshead citing cost issues as reason, "For us the cost of the goods and the cost of the replication and having to make two masters just isn't worth it".

:eek: :eek: :eek:

More: http://www1.cex.co.uk/cex_feature.asp?ct=1&id=7600

[Stephen]

I think they mean 3 or 4 Cd's. Damn I wanted a DVD

[TheBlueRaja]

Haha,
Weaklings :D

Thats nothing - my Unreal Tournament 2004 came on 6 CD's,

[Richard M]

Yeah me too, great fun installing that. :rolleyes:

[Stephen]

I went for the DVD of ut2k4 but I got far cry on 5 Cds.

[Richard M]

I just preordered my copy at Amazon, it's due on the 14th with them apparently. :)

[Stephen]

I have mine ordered at play.com. Them and everywhere else I checked has it due on the 13/8 which is a friday and that is always the release date for games in the UK.

[jamesclarke555]

I have mine ordered at play.com. Them and everywhere else I checked has it due on the 13/8 which is a friday and that is always the release date for games in the UK.
Same here m8. www.play.com (http://www.play.com) can't go far wrong + free delivery :)

[dilli-theclaw]

MMMmmm

[mrmassive]

i put farcry ut2004 on dvd will do the same with doom 3 :D

[Bifta]

i put farcry ut2004 on dvd will do the same with doom 3 :D

Not if it's star force 3 protected you wont ;)

[Richard M]

The only time you'll use all the CDs is on installation and copying them to a DVD, then installing, kind of defeats the whole point...

[TheBlueRaja]

For those peeps with older OS's (I.e Windows 98SE and below), it has been announce that Doom III will not work on your systems. Mimimum spec is Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

[Richard M]

A thing I just found on OCUK:
http://www.fanta.dk/news.asp?nid=1CF3D054-9BBF-4B5D-BE67-AB147CAB97A4
:rofl:

[TheBlueRaja]

:rofl:

"Nerds are going crazy"

Good link.

[jamesclarke555]

Check this awesome G4 Tech TV Doom3 footage:

http://www.ggmania.com/?smsid=16444 (110.8MB)

[Neil]

Check this awesome G4 Tech TV Doom3 footage:

http://www.ggmania.com/?smsid=16444 (110.8MB)

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[Bifta]

Works for me ok ... weird

[Neil]

Works for me ok ... weird

Works ok for me too now...:shrug:

[Richard M]

Thanks for that video, very interesting. :)
I like that bit in the corridor when you hear a woman say "they took my baby" and you hear babies crying all around you. :disturbd:
We're going to be scared stupid in two weeks. :D

[poolking]

Win98 users won't be too happy though.

[jamesclarke555]

Thanks for that video, very interesting. :)
I like that bit in the corridor when you hear a woman say "they took my baby" and you hear babies crying all around you. :disturbd:
We're going to be scared stupid in two weeks. :DNo problem m8, I liked it so much, I burned a VCD :)

Good that it talks about earlier Doom and Quake games too! Very interesting vid'

[jamesclarke555]

Win98 users won't be too happy though.
I think it's time they came out of the dark ages ;)

[poolking]

I know, but who's going to shell out £100+ for the upgrade? :)

[Bifta]

I know, but who's going to shell out £100+ for the upgrade? :)

People without xbox's who want to play Doom III ;)

[jamesclarke555]

I know, but who's going to shell out £100+ for the upgrade? :)
Can't believe that Windows XP will be 3 years old this October, you can get XP Home OEM for £60 these days:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Microsoft_Windows_20.html

[jamesclarke555]

Just posted up over at [H]ard OCP.

http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQ0

[Richard M]

Nice article, looks like I should be fine at 1024x768 on this video card and maybe 1280x1024.

[kronas]

it seems people in the US have got their hands on doom 3 early.....

It appears that some lucky people have got their hands on a copy of Doom III and currently links are flying around the internet with early screenshots of the game. This highly anticipated FPS has been in development for many years and is due to be released in the states next week and in Europe the following week

images available in the link below.

source: neowin

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=197042

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/07/1.jpg

[Neil]

:LOL: www.nforce.nl appears to have collpased under the weight of people posting just to say "is it out yet?" :D

[kronas]

:LOL: www.nforce.nl appears to have collpased under the weight of people posting just to say "is it out yet?" :D

:rofl: it was working about 10 mins ago :erm:

[Richard M]

Yes, it's got to that stage:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=785879 :D
I prefer Ribena myself, it's the ultimate gaming drink.

[Foo Fighter]

lmao theres 21,500 people on a certain torrent thats gotta be the biggest ever and its still growing

[paulyoung666]

lmao theres 21,500 people on a certain torrent thats gotta be the biggest ever and its still growing


i was just about to post that , i wonder what sort of dl speed they are getting :D :D :D

[TheBlueRaja]

Yeah its pretty slow coming down too...

BTW- before anyone complains - I've bought it already and its on pre-order. Just means i get it quicker.

[Bifta]

Yeah its pretty slow coming down too...

BTW- before anyone complains - I've bought it already and its on pre-order. Just means i get it quicker.

Think NNTP, think NZB files, think Newsleecher ;) Friend of mine downloaded the whole thing at work in around an hour.

[Graham M]

Yeah its pretty slow coming down too...

BTW- before anyone complains - I've bought it already and its on pre-order. Just means i get it quicker.

Delete this post if you think its too illegit or whatever but I heard the release on BitTorrent was nuked. I had a look and noone connected seems to have the full file.

[Bifta]

I've just put my pre-orders in for Doom III, HL2 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R (only £17.99 for this one!) on play.com.

[Bifta]

I've tried DIII now on an Athlon XP 3200+ with a 9800 Pro, seems to work fine at 1024 x 768 on medium detail with no AA and no AF, detail settings of high and above are reserved for 256+ meg cards, and to be honest, the quality of the graphics is the furthest thing from your mind, let's put it this way, I won't be playing this at night, in the dark, on my own.

Screenshot attached at 1024x768 medium detail

[paulyoung666]

scary stuff then , would i need my teddy bear for company :D :D :D :D

[Stephen]

I have mine on order from play.com as well but just thought I would try it now as 2 week wait for the UK release. But boy is it slow to d/l

[jamesclarke555]

http://home.comcast.net/~tdwitzke/Playing_Doom_3.rar

[kronas]

http://home.comcast.net/~tdwitzke/Playing_Doom_3.rar

looks pretty smooth on video, although the game seems too dark at times.

[Bifta]

scary stuff then , would i need my teddy bear for company :D :D :D :D

It is pretty scary, especially as you're wandering down a passageway, all the lights flicker out, you turn your flashlight only to find a big demon bearing down on you. *parp* It's more of the "make you jump" scary than psychological scary, reminds me a bit of Aliens Vs. Predator in that respect.

[Stephen]

It is pretty scary, especially as you're wandering down a passageway, all the lights flicker out, you turn your flashlight only to find a big demon bearing down on you. *parp* It's more of the "make you jump" scary than psychological scary, reminds me a bit of Aliens Vs. Predator in that respect.
AvP 1&2 they were so scary. I am not joking when I say I fell off my chair once or twice...... Slowly walking down a darkened corridor only to miss the fact that the corrider split in 2, I turned just as a xenomorph leapt out at me. Never been so scared in my life. I mean it was 1.30am and no lights on!!

[paulyoung666]

It is pretty scary, especially as you're wandering down a passageway, all the lights flicker out, you turn your flashlight only to find a big demon bearing down on you. *parp* It's more of the "make you jump" scary than psychological scary, reminds me a bit of Aliens Vs. Predator in that respect.


aint half glad my pc wont run it then :D :D :D :D

[jamesclarke555]

AvP 1&2 they were so scary. I am not joking when I say I fell off my chair once or twice...... Slowly walking down a darkened corridor only to miss the fact that the corrider split in 2, I turned just as a xenomorph leapt out at me. Never been so scared in my life. I mean it was 1.30am and no lights on!!
Anyone ever play AvP on the doomed Atari Jaguar? Now that was scary. The game holds up even today, it was released 10 years ago!

[Bifta]

Here's a list of the cheats for it, in case anyone needs them

Bring the console up with [~] and type the following codes in to blow
the monsters back to hell:)

aviDemo = Saves a demo of your playing to an AVI movie file
benchmark = Game Benchmark
doomhell = Skip all levels to last
freeze = Freeze all on screen
gfxinfo = Graphicscard infomation
god = God mode
noclip = No Clip
notarget = Invisibility to most enemies
com_drawfps 1 = Show FPS
give all = Full load of weapons and ammo
give doom95 = Load the '95 version of Doom
give keys = Acquire all the keys you'll ever need
give weapon_machinegun = Machinegun
give weapon_shotgun = Shotgun
give weapon_plasmagun = Plasmagun
give weapon_bfg = BFG
give weapon_chainsaw = Chainsaw
give weapon_rocketlauncher = Rocket Launcher
status = Your game status
quit = Quit aka Exit

[Richard M]

Nice screenshot Bifta, I assume it was well worth the wait. :)

[Bifta]

Nice screenshot Bifta, I assume it was well worth the wait. :)

I'm in 2 minds at the moment, the engine is without a doubt impressive and future games using it will not doubt follow suit, but, it's not really my sort of game, there has to be more than just wandering around passageways in the dark.

[Bifta]

As it turns out, I can run the game on high and also ultra high at 1024x768 with no noticeable performance drop, occasionally (and I mean occasionally, and only on ultra high) the screen will freeze for a second but it seems just as smooth as medium detail. I'm quite impressed an old 128mb 9800 pro deals with it.

[Richard M]

Ultra high is supposed to use up to 500MB of texture data so that freezing will be when it swaps data in and out, it will be using your usual system RAM too (how much depends on your aperture size).

[Bifta]

The BFG is such a disappointment :(

[Richard M]

Looks like as well as sales records, it's going to be breaking piracy records too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3527332.stm

[kronas]

Looks like as well as sales records, it's going to be breaking piracy records too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3527332.stm


i was just reading that (wonders how the BBC picked up on it ;) )

[TheShadow]

I'm downloading it too at the moment (I hope NTL doesn't foam at the mouth because I've uploaded quite alot).

Anyway, I'll be buying this as soon as it's released in England. It's one of those games you have to buy purely because it's a classic (and the fact I've got all the other Doom games).

Shame about multiplayer though, only 4 people max per server, but I'm getting this purely for SP. I'm sure some fan made mods will up the max player amount.

[poolking]

i was just reading that (wonders how the BBC picked up on it ;) )
They've probably got a group of geeks secreted away in the deepest darkest basement of the BBC TV Centre. :D

[Richard M]

One word: arghh!!! :Yikes: :disturbd:

I just spent about 3 hours playing Doom III and it's everything I expected and more.
The graphics are generally excellent, lots of dark corners you just have to check with your torch and awesome pixelshader effects all over the place, although the low res textures on the people's clothes really annoyed me. :grind:
Being used to Far Cry, I've also seen a lot of this before which is a shame. :(

It really is as if they opened a gateway to hell, it's complete chaos in the research facility, some of the visuals are pretty gruesome and it can get quite violent so it's not a game for kids.
The area I think it really excels is the sound though, I highly recommend a minimum of a 5.1 system playing it - the voice acting is also superb. :eek:

The gameplay rocks, it feels bit repetitive sometimes but it's not too bad, you're usually on the edge of your seat the whole time you play it and a few times I yelled out "oh <expletive>" when something came around the corner and lunged at me. :p:
I also like the scout-bots, they were very cool.

My system played it extremely smoothly on max details and the high quality setting at 1024x768, in fact it plays so well I'm putting off the purchase of a new graphics card for a while I think.
I'll see what it plays like at 1280x1024 tomorrow but I'm not really that bothered, you don't notice the jaggies when playing. :)

Anyway, I've got some screenshots up - a couple attached and some more here:
http://www.richardm.co.uk/images/forums_etc/Doom%203%20Grabs/

PS. Try not to play it in the dark. ;)

[TheBlueRaja]

Can i just say - this game ROCKS!

For a while, you may think - its OK, then it starts to get a bit mental and Rich is right - its the sound not the graphics is where this game excells - scares the living crap out you - save your cash from your GFX card and get a 5.1 system instead.

The only game i have EVER played where im actually jumping at every sound and training my weapon in its general direction expecting to see something practically on me. Every room makes you wonder what the heck is coming next.

Not to mention the little cut scenes (in game) where the whole screen goes like blood and your left wondering WTF?

Then there are the voices - out of nowhere - whispering - "over here" - :eek:.

Oh - and the Plasma rifle - best weapon ever? I love the charging sound it gives off and the way it lights up the room.

Loving it - so far.

[Bifta]

I take back what I said about the BFG, I remembered to keep my finger on the button this time :D

Have any of you reached the shrine with the candles/pentagram etc yet? That voices etc freaked me right out.

[jamesclarke555]

Is this a warez forum now then? I just hope you guys have a legal *cough* copy *cough* :nono:


Nah, seriously I'm just jealous, got mine pre-ordered though :)

[Stephen]

I have mine ordered but could not wait. My God what a great game. The other guys are right though the sound is amazing, voices and thumping noises really make you jump. Silly me playing in the house on my own with the lights out. Boo.....argghhhhh!!! (runs away screaming like a little girl)

[TheBlueRaja]

I take back what I said about the BFG, I remembered to keep my finger on the button this time :D

Have any of you reached the shrine with the candles/pentagram etc yet? That voices etc freaked me right out.

Argg - couldnt find the BFG - i got the Code - but couldnt find the locker...

Got killed. :D

[Richard M]

I take back what I said about the BFG, I remembered to keep my finger on the button this time :D

Have any of you reached the shrine with the candles/pentagram etc yet? That voices etc freaked me right out.

Oh yeah, just wait until you get further.

I just played it again (couldn't help it! :D) - I take back all I said about repetition, just after you finish Alpha Labs 2 there's this absolutely terrifying part where you follow a scientist through some very small corridors.
For some reason the electrics interfere with your lights and when you get to the end, your torch and his fail completely so you're totally in blackness with "things" approaching from all sides. :Yikes: :disturbd:
That was the most scary part by a long way.

After that, you meet the nasty spiders... :cool: :shocked:

BTW - I have already paid for this game, it's coming on the 14th and when it does I'll be uninstalling/reinstalling with my own copy. :)

[Bifta]

Oh yeah, just wait until you get further.

I just played it again (couldn't help it! :D) - I take back all I said about repetition, just after you finish Alpha Labs 2 there's this absolutely terrifying part where you follow a scientist through some very small corridors.
For some reason the electrics interfere with your lights and when you get to the end, your torch and his fail completely so you're totally in blackness with "things" approaching from all sides. :Yikes: :disturbd:
That was the most scary part by a long way.

After that, you meet the nasty spiders... :cool: :shocked:

BTW - I have already paid for this game, it's coming on the 14th and when it does I'll be uninstalling/reinstalling with my own copy. :)

Just did the part with the scientist I don't know where how or when he got killed, he shouted "shoot it" and then dissapeared ... along with his torch. Reached the bit with the heads on spiders legs.

[Stephen]

Played on last night and got to the scientist part and then the spiders. All i have to say is a 3.30am this morning I was so fooking scared.

[Ben]

Is this a warez forum now then? I just hope you guys have a legal *cough* copy *cough* :nono:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3527332.stm

:rolleyes: Don't really matter considering 1000's of people have downed it.... You might as well be one of them..

[jamesclarke555]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3527332.stm

:rolleyes: Don't really matter considering 1000's of people have downed it.... You might as well be one of them..
You see that smilie in my post? That indicates that I was totally joking :rolleyes:

Dude, I downloaded the E3 Demo the day after it leaked. I figured I've waited 4 years for this thing, I think I can wait another week, plus the demo should be out thursday.

[Bifta]

Argg - couldnt find the BFG - i got the Code - but couldnt find the locker...

Got killed. :D

Press CTRL-ALT and ¬ to bring up the console, type give all

[TheBlueRaja]

Press CTRL-ALT and ¬ to bring up the console, type give all

Thanks - i really dont like using cheats though so I will just play through it as is. I'll get it eventually.

[Bifta]

Thanks - i really dont like using cheats though so I will just play through it as is. I'll get it eventually.

There is a cheat to just give you the BFG, and nothing else:

give weapon_bfg

No harm in trying it out .. use up the ammo and move on.

[Jon M]

Press CTRL-ALT and ¬ to bring up the console, type give all
surely you can bind a key to console in your config?
i remember doing that in the alpha anyway :erm:

[Stephen]

surely you can bind a key to console in your config?
i remember doing that in the alpha anyway :erm:
there is a console command which lets it open with just the ` key. At work so can't check it now.

[Luxor]

I'm downloading it too at the moment (I hope NTL doesn't foam at the mouth because I've uploaded quite alot).

Anyway, I'll be buying this as soon as it's released in England. It's one of those games you have to buy purely because it's a classic (and the fact I've got all the other Doom games).

Shame about multiplayer though, only 4 people max per server, but I'm getting this purely for SP. I'm sure some fan made mods will up the max player amount.Reports of 32 player servers being opened up in the states already

[Stephen]

One word: arghh!!! :Yikes: :disturbd:

I just spent about 3 hours playing Doom III and it's everything I expected and more.
The graphics are generally excellent, lots of dark corners you just have to check with your torch and awesome pixelshader effects all over the place, although the low res textures on the people's clothes really annoyed me. :grind:
Being used to Far Cry, I've also seen a lot of this before which is a shame. :(

It really is as if they opened a gateway to hell, it's complete chaos in the research facility, some of the visuals are pretty gruesome and it can get quite violent so it's not a game for kids.
The area I think it really excels is the sound though, I highly recommend a minimum of a 5.1 system playing it - the voice acting is also superb. :eek:

The gameplay rocks, it feels bit repetitive sometimes but it's not too bad, you're usually on the edge of your seat the whole time you play it and a few times I yelled out "oh <expletive>" when something came around the corner and lunged at me. :p:
I also like the scout-bots, they were very cool.

My system played it extremely smoothly on max details and the high quality setting at 1024x768, in fact it plays so well I'm putting off the purchase of a new graphics card for a while I think.
I'll see what it plays like at 1280x1024 tomorrow but I'm not really that bothered, you don't notice the jaggies when playing. :)

Anyway, I've got some screenshots up - a couple attached and some more here:
http://www.richardm.co.uk/images/forums_etc/Doom%203%20Grabs/

PS. Try not to play it in the dark. ;)
Your PC seems powerful enough already, running it like that. I was playing at high detail at 1024x768, on my athlon 2100xp and 768DDR RAM with Radeon 9600XT it managed well enough. It does look really nice though doesn't it.

[jamesclarke555]

...Catalyst 4.9 Beta :cool:

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

[TheBlueRaja]

Feckin Eck.

Any news on how it works? (downloading it now)

[jamesclarke555]

Feckin Eck.

Any news on how it works? (downloading it now)Not yet, apparently its only just been uploaded, let us know how you get on with them m8 :)

[TheBlueRaja]

Seems pretty good actually - smooth as a nut in fact, cant say how many more FPS i get but it seems better.

Might even try Ultra settings.

[jamesclarke555]

Seems pretty good actually - smooth as a nut in fact, cant say how many more FPS i get but it seems better.

Might even try Ultra settings.
I too can confirm this with my 9800 XT, well in the E3 leak anyhow. Very smooth, kudos to ATi.

[Richard M]

Couple of new screenshots I took: spiderheads, spiderwoman and the flaming heads. :disturbd: :erm:

Has anyone reached that "they took my baby..." bit yet?
That was pretty disturbing.

[TheBlueRaja]

Wheehee - just got the chainsaw.

[Richard M]

Hehe, me too.
FUN!! :D :devsmoke:

[Richard M]

By the way, anyone who has anything like the system below will be able to play it at 800x600 at low-medium quality.
I took it round my mates house to show him tonight and it ran fine. :)

Athlon 2100
512MB DDR
Radeon 9600 Pro

Even in medium quality it looks awesome and AFAIK the only major difference between medium and high quality is the usage of 8xAF.

[TheShadow]

Superb game.:D

I'm stuck on the level where you can ride that little platform between 3 different 'stations' and can't figure out what to do and it's driving me nuts!

There's a door at platform 3 (the last platform) but it's locked and I can't find where to unlock it.:(

[Richard M]

Find all the PDAs and listen to all the messages (TAB key) ;)

[Stephen]

By the way, anyone who has anything like the system below will be able to play it at 800x600 at low-medium quality.
I took it round my mates house to show him tonight and it ran fine. :)

Athlon 2100
512MB DDR
Radeon 9600 Pro

Even in medium quality it looks awesome and AFAIK the only major difference between medium and high quality is the usage of 8xAF.
I have a XP2100, 768MB DDR RAM and 9600XT and am running 1024x768 at high detail and it runs fairly well. have been getting between 15-60fps.

[TheBlueRaja]

Superb game.:D

I'm stuck on the level where you can ride that little platform between 3 different 'stations' and can't figure out what to do and it's driving me nuts!

There's a door at platform 3 (the last platform) but it's locked and I can't find where to unlock it.:(

Warning : Platforms can go up as well as down.... ;)

[Bifta]

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

Enjoy! Just about the try them.

[TheShadow]

Hehe, I got past that level in the end guys. Cheers for the tips.

Has anyone seen that level where there's a technician stuck inside that room yelling at you to let him out? There's two buttons, one for opening the door and one for activating the machinery.:D

Obviously being the kind fellow that I am I was going to press the 'open doors' button to let him out, but unfortunately my finger 'slipped' and hit the other button. Kinda funny what happened to him (in a grim, saddistic way).

Muahahahaha, why is it so much fun to be evil.:D

[TheBlueRaja]

There is a bit later on - where you have to make a decision - to do one thing or another and currently i have no idea what impact that decision is going to have on the rest of the game or the final outcome. :eek:

[TheShadow]

There is a bit later on - where you have to make a decision - to do one thing or another and currently i have no idea what impact that decision is going to have on the rest of the game or the final outcome. :eek:
*SPOILER ALERT*



You mean the one where you can decide whether to send or cancel the help transmission to Phobos?

I decided to cancel it. You cheese off your commanding officer but that guy and his bodyguard want you to meet up with them, and I'm interested to see what part they play in all of this.

[TheBlueRaja]

Perhaps that should come with a spoiler alert - as my tactically put post didnt give much away :D

[Richard M]

You mean the one where you can decide whether to send or cancel the help transmission to Phobos?

I decided to cancel it. You cheese off your commanding officer but that guy and his bodyguard want you to meet up with them, and I'm interested to see what part they play in all of this.

That's interesting, I sent it and now those guys are very angry and are chasing after me all the time.

[TheShadow]

Perhaps that should come with a spoiler alert - as my tactically put post didnt give much away :D True. I edited it.:)

What guys, Richard? You mean that man and his bodyguard? I don't want to give too much away but IMO cancelling the transmission is possibly the right decision. I could be wrong though. You'll see why on the level before the monorail when you recieve a transmission from that evil guy.

[TheBlueRaja]

Aw man - i dont want to read that....

[Richard M]

SPOILER!

Has anyone run into the babies yet?
They're pure evil. :eek:

Also there is a very, very difficult bit where you run into 4 huge guys who have rocket launchers for arms.
I found that constant running around the room helped here but then I got killed by the flood of babies. :rolleyes:
Taking a break from the game at the moment... :spin:

[TheShadow]

Aw man - i dont want to read that....
Don't worry, it's not that much of a giveaway. I'm sure both decisions have merits. Whether I'll chose the other path after I've finished the game, I dunno.

[TheShadow]

SPOILER!

Has anyone run into the babies yet?
They're pure evil. :eek:

Also there is a very, very difficult bit where you run into 4 huge guys who have rocket launchers for arms.
I found that constant running around the room helped here but then I got killed by the flood of babies. :rolleyes:
Taking a break from the game at the moment... :spin:
Yeah the babies are creepy. I think they're called Cherubs (www.planetdoom.com) And I remember the Mancubus (the huge guys with rocket launchers for arms) have made a return from Doom II.

These guys are probably nothing compared to what's lurking around on the later levels.

[jamesclarke555]

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

Enjoy! Just about the try them.Already bin posted m8, drivers are good though :)

Does anyone feel as though the game is perhaps too scripted?

[Richard M]

Yeah I do, you can almost tell for sure when a fireball demon will turn up. :rolleyes:

[jamesclarke555]

Yeah I do, you can almost tell for sure when a fireball demon will turn up. :rolleyes:O.K. - Well I can't say cuz I havn't played it yet, but that's what a lot of people are saying over at rage3d.

[TheShadow]

It does get a bit too predictable when you've been playing for quite some time.

Still, it's a great SP game, but I've no doubt HL2 will better it.

[TheBlueRaja]

The thing is - this is classic doom with fancy graphics and sound. Nothing more nothing less.

IMO - thats good enough.

But HL2 will be better - was that in any doubt though (well it better be). :D

[Bifta]

The thing is - this is classic doom with fancy graphics and sound. Nothing more nothing less.

IMO - thats good enough.

But HL2 will be better - was that in any doubt though (well it better be). :D

I'm looking forward to HL2 much more than I was looking forward to Doom III, I played the leaked alpha and was pretty impressed, more than I was with the Doom alpha, the beach environment even though it was missing a lot of textures was excellent, with far better physics than Doom.

[TheBlueRaja]

I'm looking forward to HL2 much more than I was looking forward to Doom III, I played the leaked alpha and was pretty impressed, more than I was with the Doom alpha, the beach environment even though it was missing a lot of textures was excellent, with far better physics than Doom.

Played the doom alpha and thought it was - well - an alpha... :D The graphics at the time blew me away though - even though my system at the time grinded to a hault running it.

HL2 Beta - never played it - didnt want too - i want that baby to be "fresh" the first time it loads.

[Bifta]

Played the doom alpha and thought it was - well - an alpha... :D The graphics at the time blew me away though - even though my system at the time grinded to a hault running it.

HL2 Beta - never played it - didnt want too - i want that baby to be "fresh" the first time it loads.

If it's anything like the alpha, everyone is in for treat, it was excellent and ran superbly on lower spec hardware.

[jamesclarke555]

If it's anything like the alpha, everyone is in for treat, it was excellent and ran superbly on lower spec hardware.The Half-Life 2 beta leak was alright, but I can't believe how unfinished it was though, missing textures everywhere, most levels wouldn't even load etc. Wasn't the leak date stamped in August 2003 or something? Yet Valve/Gabe Newell still claimed September 30th as a valid release date, when they knew it was never gonna be finished in time. And here we are almost a year later and where is it? Don't get me wrong, I would rather wait for a more polished product than a rush job, it's just the lies I can't stomach. Did anyone else notice in the leak, you could only select OpenGL from the drop down menu, yet the game is touted as DX9!

[Richard M]

Did anyone else notice in the leak, you could only select OpenGL from the drop down menu, yet the game is touted as DX9!

So is Doom.
DirectX is more than just Direct3D - it's sound (for 5.1/7.1 support), DirectInput, DirectPlay (chat and multiplayer) and quite a bit more.
They probably mean it uses DirectX 9 hardware features like advanced Pixelshader, just like Doom does, but in the OpenGL API.

[Stephen]

The Half-Life 2 beta leak was alright, but I can't believe how unfinished it was though, missing textures everywhere, most levels wouldn't even load etc. Wasn't the leak date stamped in August 2003 or something? Yet Valve/Gabe Newell still claimed September 30th as a valid release date, when they knew it was never gonna be finished in time. And here we are almost a year later and where is it? Don't get me wrong, I would rather wait for a more polished product than a rush job, it's just the lies I can't stomach. Did anyone else notice in the leak, you could only select OpenGL from the drop down menu, yet the game is touted as DX9!
Well from the net last week the game is finished and sent to the publisher for final checks then duplication. Also some show or other has a proper playable version at it this weekend I think. So maybe it will actually come out in september this year!!:D

[jamesclarke555]

So is Doom.
DirectX is more than just Direct3D - it's sound (for 5.1/7.1 support), DirectInput, DirectPlay (chat and multiplayer) and quite a bit more.
They probably mean it uses DirectX 9 hardware features like advanced Pixelshader, just like Doom does, but in the OpenGL API.Yeah, I know what DirectX is ;)

First off, Doom3 should not be classed as DX9 at all, it's OpenGL 1.5.

Secondly the finished version of Half-Life 2 will actually use both API's, but is Direct3D/DX9 by nature and default. Plus do you really think HL2 would be faster on ATI hardware if it were OpenGL only? The choice of DX9 just wasn't available for some reason on the leak.

[Bifta]

Yeah, I know what DirectX is ;)

First off, Doom3 should not be classed as DX9 at all, it's OpenGL 1.5.

Secondly the finished version of Half-Life 2 will actually use both API's, but is Direct3D/DX9 by nature and default. Plus do you really think HL2 would be faster on ATI hardware if it were OpenGL only? The choice of DX9 just wasn't available for some reason on the leak.

But it is DX9, it's just doesn't use the Direct3d component of DX9. (or something)

[timewarrior2001]

Well I'm not gonna say much, but I'm gonna have a look at doom 3 tonight.

I am not expecting much, fancy gtraphics etc dont impress me that much. If it is essentially doom 1 and 2 then I'll be much annoyed, a re-hash and sold at full price is in my oppinion wrong.

HL2, well it looks fancy, but I still say its also gimmicky. I wasnt that impressed with HL anyway so HL2 doesnt have much to beat.

[Stephen]

Well I'm not gonna say much, but I'm gonna have a look at doom 3 tonight.

I am not expecting much, fancy gtraphics etc dont impress me that much. If it is essentially doom 1 and 2 then I'll be much annoyed, a re-hash and sold at full price is in my oppinion wrong.

HL2, well it looks fancy, but I still say its also gimmicky. I wasnt that impressed with HL anyway so HL2 doesnt have much to beat.The graphics are amazing looking but also the atmosphere along with the music will keep you playing. I found my self getting scared but kept reaching the end of the level and having another go just to see what is around the next corner. This should keep me busy till HL2 any way.

As for it simply being Doom 1 & 2 'rehashed' this is un true. It is however a retelling of the doom story as though the first 2 did not exist.

[Jon M]

I've seen a lot of reports of big FPS lag reductions when changing these config values :
"seta image_cacheMegs" change the number value to roughly 1/4 of your available ram (512 = 128, or 1GB = 256)
†œseta image_useCacheâââ₠¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� to †œ1âà ¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ�
†œseta image_CacheMinKâââ₠¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ÂÂ� to †œ20480â € �

*Note it won't give you an increase in FPS.. it may however enable you to run a higher resolution/detail setting without stuttering. (lag spikes)

Anyone tried these yet? I'll be testing when I get home.

[jamesclarke555]

But it is DX9, it's just doesn't use the Direct3d component of DX9. (or something)
I'm talking graphically here, in reference to Richards post about pixelshaders etc.

[Bifta]

I'm talking graphically here, in reference to Richards post about pixelshaders etc.

Don't look at me! I don't know what I'm talking about :D

[Jon M]

in reference to my previous post.. it does seem to make a difference.. the lag when going through doors into a new area for example is a lot less

[Richard M]

Alert - more spoilers! :D

I've played this game to death now and despite getting a bit bored in the middle levels of Alpha Labs, the game just took a turn for the worse. (or is that better? :confused: )

The scripted action starts to make sense as you decend into hell and I've never seen a game do it better than this. Prepare yourself for it, you haven't seen anything like this before. :disturbd: :D
The sound is so amazing, but creepy as, er, hell - you can hear women and babies screaming etc.

New screenshots below, if you haven't got to hell yet then it's probably best to wait and see it for yourself.

Oh and by the way, whoever said that Doom can't handle large outdoor areas was wrong. ;)
EDIT: Another thing, watch that volume control, I think I very nearly blew my sub at one point - bass just comes out of nowhere. :erm:

[TheShadow]

You met the boss there yet, Richard? That thing was scary.

Oh and those HellKnights are bloody hard to take down unless you have a BFG. 2 of them coming out of that portal at once made me run for it lol.

[Richard M]

You met the boss there yet, Richard? That thing was scary.

I met some huge thing which towered above me yeah, don't tell me if that's the end of the game though - I haven't killed it yet. :D

[TheShadow]

*SPOILER*

Nah, no where near the end of the game. You've still got two more bosses to beat.:angel:

I know what the last one is (haven't got there though) and no it's not that evil bloke.

[jamesclarke555]

Don't look at me! I don't know what I'm talking about :D
LOL :D

Well, I've finally got Doom3 now and I'm very impressed, it's just awesome. Btw setting gamma to 1.3 (DoomConfig) really helps, the damn game's just to dark!

[TheShadow]

I like it like that, adds more atmosphere.

It does make it bloody hard to play during daylight hours though, I must admit.

[dilli-theclaw]

Have you people read this....
http://www.forumplanet.com/planetdoom/topic.asp?fid=5733&tid=1438663

[jamesclarke555]

I like it like that, adds more atmosphere.

It does make it bloody hard to play during daylight hours though, I must admit.It's still too dark even on 1.3, but it just makes it a bit clearer, you can actually see some detail in the monsters and stuff ;)

Im quite surprised how well the game runs on my 128MB graphics card, got it cranked up to 1280x1024 on high details with 16xAF, still smooth too!

[jamesclarke555]

Have you people read this....
http://www.forumplanet.com/planetdoom/topic.asp?fid=5733&tid=1438663 (http://www.forumplanet.com/planetdoom/topic.asp?fid=5733&tid=1438663)
Cheers, I'll give that a try :)

[Richard M]

I changed it, haven't played the game yet but I ran the timedemo and got an average of 43.3fps at 1024x768, High Quality (8xAF), max details, no AA.
What's everyone else getting ATM?

(Type "timedemo demo1" into the console)

[poolking]

Don't look at me! I don't know what I'm talking about :D
You should do what I do faced with a situation like this, spout enough BS to convice people that you really know what you're talking about. :D

[Bifta]

You should do what I do faced with a situation like this, spout enough BS to convice people that you really know what you're talking about. :D

Heh, trouble is, people always end up asking me to explain :|

[TheBlueRaja]

There is a report that if you find Doomconfig.cfg file in x:\x\Doom 3\base and edit a line in it - the game will go faster.

Find seta image_cacheMegs and change the number to 96 or even 128 or 256 your Doom will go faster or so they claim.

EDIT - Ah - that will be the report linked too above.. Doh!

[Jon M]

There is a report that if you find Doomconfig.cfg file in x:\x\Doom 3\base and edit a line in it - the game will go faster.

Find seta image_cacheMegs and change the number to 96 or even 128 or 256 your Doom will go faster or so they claim.

EDIT - Ah - that will be the report linked too above.. Doh!
*cough* post #133 *cough*

[Jon M]

I changed it, haven't played the game yet but I ran the timedemo and got an average of 43.3fps at 1024x768, High Quality (8xAF), max details, no AA.
What's everyone else getting ATM?

(Type "timedemo demo1" into the console)
those tweaks won't give any FPS increase whatsoever.. all it helps with is cacheing textures.. which stops the fps lag that you often get when the scenery or action gets more complex

[Richard M]

Yeah I know that, I assume it uses your system RAM for this? :confused:

[Bifta]

I changed it, haven't played the game yet but I ran the timedemo and got an average of 43.3fps at 1024x768, High Quality (8xAF), max details, no AA.
What's everyone else getting ATM?

(Type "timedemo demo1" into the console)

41.7 with the same settings, that's on an Athlon XP 3200 at normal clock speed, generic slow cheap PC3200 and a Radeon 9800 pro also at normal clock speed.

[TheBlueRaja]

Hmmm,
Same spec as bifta - but im only getting 35.4 :( WTF?

[Richard M]

41.7 with the same settings, that's on an Athlon XP 3200 at normal clock speed, generic slow cheap PC3200 and a Radeon 9800 pro also at normal clock speed.

That's a pretty damn good score, at least I know I'll be able to play it while my mobo is RMA'd. :rolleyes:
How far into the game are you BTW?

Hmmm,
Same spec as bifta - but im only getting 35.4 :( WTF?

Which mobo?

[Bifta]

That's a pretty damn good score, at least I know I'll be able to play it while my mobo is RMA'd. :rolleyes:
How far into the game are you BTW?

I haven't sent the transmission yet but I've got some card thing with it on from that dude, and there's big fat flying things floating about, not the skulls (which are damn annoying).

[Richard M]

I haven't sent the transmission yet but I've got some card thing with it on from that dude, and there's big fat flying things floating about, not the skulls (which are damn annoying).

Haha, don't get bored - trust me, what you've got coming is well worth it. :eek: :D

[Stephen]

I have just entered hell. The graphics and details are so amazing.

I ran the timedemo and got 21.4fps. That is at 1024x768 high detail on an Athlon 2100xp, 768 DDR Ram 2700, 9600XT 128MB.

[Richard M]

I have just entered hell. The graphics and details are so amazing.


Forget the graphics, the sound is amazing! :eeek:
Oh, good luck BTW. :tu: ;)

[Stephen]

Forget the graphics, the sound is amazing! :eeek:
Oh, good luck BTW. :tu: ;)
True the sound is great, all that screaming and people praying I have heard on a few of the levels. carzy stuff. espec as there is thunder storm outside while I am playing.:Yikes:

[TheBlueRaja]

41.7 with the same settings, that's on an Athlon XP 3200 at normal clock speed, generic slow cheap PC3200 and a Radeon 9800 pro also at normal clock speed.

Bifta - why have you got such a high score - im curious, the highest i can get is 37.1 with the tweaks mentioned earlier in this thread - yet your still about 5fps higher than me AND my memory is running at DDR 438 (whereas your is default).

There must be a difference here somewhere as i have a 9800 pro, 3200 (albeit a 2500+ OC'd to 3200) and Twin-X Dual DDR 3200 running at DDR 440.

Everything in the Graphics is at High Detail, no AA but with all the other options on, and my Ati Drivers (4.9) are at default settings too.

And thats running on the Nforce 2 NF7-s board which is regarded as one of the best Nforce 2 boards out there.

Yet the difference is quite high percentage wise, are you giving us the FIRST run score or the second as cacheing makes a big difference too?

Whats going on?

[Bifta]

Bifta - why have you got such a high score - im curious, the highest i can get is 37.1 with the tweaks mentioned earlier in this thread - yet your still about 5fps higher than me AND my memory is running at DDR 438 (whereas your is default).

There must be a difference here somewhere as i have a 9800 pro, 3200 (albeit a 2500+ OC'd to 3200) and Twin-X Dual DDR 3200 running at DDR 440.

Everything in the Graphics is at High Detail, no AA but with all the other options on, and my Ati Drivers (4.9) are at default settings too.

And thats running on the Nforce 2 NF7-s board which is regarded as one of the best Nforce 2 boards out there.

Yet the difference is quite high percentage wise, are you giving us the FIRST run score or the second as cacheing makes a big difference too?

Whats going on?

That was the first run score, the 3200+ is a 400mhz FSB version on an Asus A7N8X deluxe Nforce 2 board, everything is running at stock speeds under XP Pro, DX9.0c, Catalyst 4.9 beta (which were set to high quality with just AA and AF turned off, vsync forced on). There's nothing else I can think of that would make it any faster than yours I'm afraid :|

edit: As it turns out, the memory I'm running is a mix of PC2700 (2 x 256) and PC3200 (all crap, no brand stuff) ... which should theoretically make it slower.

[TheBlueRaja]

That was the first run score, the 3200+ is a 400mhz FSB version on an Asus A7N8X deluxe Nforce 2 board, everything is running at stock speeds under XP Pro, DX9.0c, Catalyst 4.9 beta (which were set to high quality with just AA and AF turned off, vsync forced on). There's nothing else I can think of that would make it any faster than yours I'm afraid :|

edit: As it turns out, the memory I'm running is a mix of PC2700 (2 x 256) and PC3200 (all crap, no brand stuff) ... which should theoretically make it slower.

****! :D

[Bifta]

****! :D

The only thing I can think of is that I've pruned a lot of the services, I have no swap file and it's installed on a completely empty drive, not sure that'd make any difference though. I've also not applied any of the tweaks to smooth out the HD access.

[Richard M]

Doesn't the XP 2500 have a smaller cache?

[Bifta]

Whatever causes the performance boost in Doom unfortunately hasn't spread as far as Far Cry, and FS 2004 with all the scenery packs still runs like a dog, even at 1024 x 768, so, I'm still going to aim for one of them Athlon 64 3500's and an X800 Pro.

[TheBlueRaja]

Doesn't the XP 2500 have a smaller cache?

Thoroughbread (Spelling?) core does, Barton dosent IIRC....

[Richard M]

Hmm, it does have the same cache but it has a slower FSB it looks like.

[Bifta]

Hmm, it does have the same cache but it has a slower FSB it looks like.

Chances are though he's upped the FSB unless it's a multiplier unlocked 2500M

[TheBlueRaja]

Done some more testing....

1st Run - i get a really crap score - like 30.5 FPS now and theres loads of lagging and pausing.

2nd run - i get 42.5, but there is no lagging or pausing.

Something is really wrong with the cacheing here. :(

[TheBlueRaja]

Chances are though he's upped the FSB unless it's a multiplier unlocked 2500M

FSB is running at 220Mhz with 10x Multiplyer (2200 Mhz or 3200+). ;)

[Bifta]

Done some more testing....

1st Run - i get a really crap score - like 30.5 FPS now and theres loads of lagging and pausing.

2nd run - i get 42.5, but there is no lagging or pausing.

Something is really wrong with the cacheing here. :(

Whenever it accesses the disk it seems to judder a lot, happens no matter how many times I do the test consecutively/exiting the game and re-running and or rebooting, still gives me the same score.

[TheBlueRaja]

Competely different for me - 1st time its crap and lots of lag - 2nd time its no problem, smooth as a nut.

[Richard M]

You have to use the scores from the second time because then all the graphics will be cached - that's what all the websites say anyway.

[TheBlueRaja]

Well, in that case its OK,
But then why does bifta get a constant FPS irrespective of which run he's on?

As i stated my one varied wildly between the first and second run - as it stands i have uninstalled Doom 3 and am defragging before re-installing.

It has helped me though - i realised i was way behind on my Nvidia Nforce drivers and that my Drives were using Multi Word DMA 2 instead of Ultra DMA 5 and Ultra DMA 4. Chnaged that setting and its made a bit of a difference in transfer rates i can tell ya.

[Richard M]

I'm stuck. :(
Does anyone know how to beat the "Guardian"?

[TheShadow]

I'm stuck. :(
Does anyone know how to beat the "Guardian"?
Kill those 3 things that hover above him (which are basically his eyes since he's blind) then when a portal shows up above him that spawns new 'eyes' shoot the portal, and that will hurt him. Then repeat untill it dies.

No other way hurts it I think.

[Richard M]

Got him now. :)

[Stephen]

I just did that level as well. Now back on mars but hell has come to mars as well.

[jamesclarke555]

Posted by Humus (ATI OpenGL staff) over at Beyond3D:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14874

[jamesclarke555]

Phew! Just completed it on "Veteren", my verdict:

Awesome graphics engine, awesome sound and an atmosphere dripping with tension. Best game ever, but then I am a massive Doom fan ;)

My only gripe is, where is this guy (Baron of Hell)?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/08/16.jpg

And why did they take out the brilliant mechanical leg noises the Pinky demon made in the Alpha leak?

Oh well, can't wait to replay it when I get an X800 XT :drool:

[jamesclarke555]

http://ducttape.glenmurphy.com/

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/08/14.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/08/15.jpg

[Jon M]

nice find James :tu:

[Ben]

Either use that duct tape mod

Or..

Use the flare mod... http://staff.seriouszone.com/rodzilla/doom3/

[Jon M]

Had a quick look for Doom3 mods.. here's a list: http://www.tacticalcenter.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=112&Itemid=2

[jamesclarke555]

Had a quick look for Doom3 mods.. here's a list: http://www.tacticalcenter.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=112&Itemid=2Some more here too (36 so far) :)

http://www.fileplanet.com/filelist.aspx?st=1&sf=2&s=99111&v=0

[timewarrior2001]

PLayed the game and I have to say I'm not fussed on it, yes it has some atmosphere, but i find it runs extrmely poor on my setup (xp2400 512Mbram and GFFX5200) They appear to have made a game that looks good yet the majority of systems cant run it in all its glory. Talk about a niche market.

I dont think this offers anything other FPS shooters dont, look beyond the gfx and theres little else there. Sound? well it sounds like a FPS, though I admit I like the "chink" of the pistols as it fires.

While the game does score high i'd give it 7.5/10 purely because I'm not as impressed as I thought I should have been.

[jamesclarke555]

...From Quakecon



DOOM3 demo is at least a couple of weeks away.
DOOM3 patch is of course in the works addressing a couple of minor multiplayer bugs.
DOOM3 expansion pack in the works by a separate developer.
DOOM3 sales for the first week are possibly the highest ever for a PC game, Activision is investigating to be sure

[Richard M]

Highly recommended, the Trent Reznor sound pack:
http://doom3.filefront.com/file/Trent_Reznor_Sound_Pack;29308
Now the commandos sound quite a bit more nasty! :D

[jamesclarke555]

Highly recommended, the Trent Reznor sound pack:
http://doom3.filefront.com/file/Trent_Reznor_Sound_Pack;29308
Now the commandos sound quite a bit more nasty! :D
Yeah, I got that installed and it's awesome. I just knew someone would rip the sounds from the leaked Alpha. Now all wee need is the pistol and machinegun model conversion ;)

[Tezcatlipoca]

Highly recommended, the Trent Reznor sound pack:
http://doom3.filefront.com/file/Trent_Reznor_Sound_Pack;29308
Now the commandos sound quite a bit more nasty! :D


Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails? :confused:


Didn't know he'd done any sounds, but I'm gonna download them anyway.

[jamesclarke555]

Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails? :confused:


Didn't know he'd done any sounds, but I'm gonna download them anyway.Yup, he worked on audio that featured in the E3 demo from 2002. These sounds are ripped straight from that leak and are far superior to the final audio in Doom 3 (weapons & monsters). Apparently, Reznor decided that time, money, and bad management ruined it for him and he dropped out.

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/doom3-trentreznorspeaks.shtml

[jamesclarke555]

That just reminded me, if anyone wants to download the title track from Doom 3, it's available Here (http://d3c.ngz-network.de/download.php?view.28) :)

Good song, written and performed by Chris Vrenna & Clint Walsh.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Yup, he worked on audio that featured in the E3 demo from 2002. These sounds are ripped straight from that leak and are far superior to the final audio in Doom 3 (weapons & monsters). Apparently, Reznor decided that time, money, and bad management ruined it for him and he dropped out.

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/doom3-trentreznorspeaks.shtml


Interesting. Cheers :)

[Richard M]

Got my copy from Amazon today.
I have to say, the manual's a bit short of material...probably their intention though - leave it up to us to find the weapons & monsters in game etc.

[Charlie_Bubble]

Got my copy from Amazon today.
I have to say, the manual's a bit short of material...probably their intention though - leave it up to us to find the weapons & monsters in game etc.

Just been playing it too. Must say the shotgun isn't very effective or particularly accurate either. Game seems a bit TOO dark for my liking. I like to have a little bit of a hint if I have to shoot accurately at something in the dark.

[jamesclarke555]

O.K. Doom3 was scary, but come on guys https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2005/01/9.gif https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2005/01/8.gif

http://www.rit.edu/~mmp6772/doom3.wmv

[Stephen]

Oh man that is so funny .

[jtwn]

Haha, apes spring to mind.

I was hoping that this would be a game to scare me, but it never was :(

It seemed more of a tech demo than an experience for me. Roll on hl2.

[Hom3r]

Does anybody know of a release date for the Playstation 2.

I've heard that:

1) No never.

2) Yes but a not so graphically spectacular version.

[Richard M]

No, never.
How would the PS2 be able to handle an engine like that?

[Jonboy]

Doom 3 Bag Of Spanners

[MatTman]

I come to think Doom3 is 4 years of wasted time, I was bored of the game no less than a few hours after playing it, I was looking forward to it since it was announced and Like many Found it a HUGE dissapointment..

Lol, a BIG bag of spanners :D

[jamesclarke555]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/08/3.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/08/4.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/08/5.jpg

[dilli-theclaw]

You know I've been playing this off and on (due to not having enough time) for the last couple of weeks, and it's taught me one thing.....

I'm really CRAP at games :(

I'm looking for alpha labs 4 btw.... useless me :)

[kronas]

mighty looking nice screenshots there jamesclarke555 :D :rofl:

[dilli-theclaw]

mighty looking nice screenshots there jamesclarke555 :D :rofl:
When I installed it on my laptop - I got a whole 3fps :)

I was amazed that it worked at all to be honest.

[Graham M]

Waste of time this game really I think. I tried it and didnt get into it, maybe ill try it again another time. Thank god i didnt buy it :(

[greencreeper]

I wish I could try Doom 3 :cry:

Re: darkness - just alter your monitor brightness to maximum. Should let you see in areas that are too dark. In reality you would be able to pinpoint the origin of sound and fire in that direction - a la Silence of the Lambs. You can't do that with a game though - not that I've heard of.

[Richard M]

I wish I could try Doom 3 :cry:

Re: darkness - just alter your monitor brightness to maximum. Should let you see in areas that are too dark. In reality you would be able to pinpoint the origin of sound and fire in that direction - a la Silence of the Lambs. You can't do that with a game though - not that I've heard of.

Can with a 7.1 speaker system. :D

[greencreeper]

Can with a 7.1 speaker system. :D

Surround sound? Does it work though? If something is behind you, does it sound behind you? Now that would be cool. I want a new computer :cry:

[Bifta]

Can with a 7.1 speaker system. :D

I meant to ask you, how did you set up your ZS PP for surround sound gaming? I'm having a b*stard of a job, I've got a set of Inspire digital speakers which has three digital ins two analog (l and r) there's 3 outputs on the actual ZS card itself but I seem to have most sound coming through the rear speakers :(

[Richard M]

Surround sound? Does it work though? If something is behind you, does it sound behind you?

Well that's the general idea, yeah. :erm:

[Richard M]

I meant to ask you, how did you set up your ZS PP for surround sound gaming? I'm having a b*stard of a job, I've got a set of Inspire digital speakers which has three digital ins two analog (l and r) there's 3 outputs on the actual ZS card itself but I seem to have most sound coming through the rear speakers :(

It helps to use the speaker calibrator in the Creative Audigy 2 start menu list.
I've never used 5.1 so the connections will be different though. :shrug:

[Bifta]

It helps to use the speaker calibrator in the Creative Audigy 2 start menu list.
I've never used 5.1 so the connections will be different though. :shrug:

I think there must be something wrong with my drivers heh, all I get is ERROR: Calibrator will now exit.

[greencreeper]

Well that's the general idea, yeah. :erm:

Sorry. All this modern technology - it's all new to me :D

[Richard M]

I think there must be something wrong with my drivers heh, all I get is ERROR: Calibrator will now exit.

That could explain why your speaker volumes are screwed up then. :D

[Bifta]

EAX and surround sound gaming has been around for years.

[greencreeper]

EAX and surround sound gaming has been around for years.


My PC is ancient. When I went to Uni I had to stop concentrating on keeping up with the latest hardware, and start concentrating on information systems. I'm way out of touch. If anything, these days it's much more complex because of the range of choice and the extent to which technology has developed.

I've just checked and my soundcard supports 4 speakers. I have headphones. Give it a few years though and I'm sure I'll be able to have extra ears added.

[Richard M]

My PC is ancient. When I went to Uni I had to stop concentrating on keeping up with the latest hardware, and start concentrating on information systems. I'm way out of touch. If anything, these days it's much more complex because of the range of choice and the extent to which technology has developed.

I've just checked and my soundcard supports 4 speakers. I have headphones. Give it a few years though and I'm sure I'll be able to have extra ears added.

No need, you can buy 5.1 headphones which have extra speakers inside. :)

[greencreeper]

No need, you can buy 5.1 headphones which have extra speakers inside. :)

:cry: There must be something I do know :erm:

[dilli-theclaw]

:cry: There must be something I do know :erm:
Actually I was looking forward to seeing a piccy of you with extra ears ;):D

[greencreeper]

Actually I was looking forward to seeing a piccy of you with extra ears ;):D
This a thing of yours? :naughty:

Oh, BTW, how's the breast problem? Did you get it sorted? ;) :D

[dilli-theclaw]

This a thing of yours? :naughty:

Oh, BTW, how's the breast problem? Did you get it sorted? ;) :D
I'm not going onto doom 'till about 8 tonight....

But I think I'm gonna take your advice and shoot the boobies :)

[greencreeper]

I'm not going onto doom 'till about 8 tonight....

But I think I'm gonna take your advice and shoot the boobies :)


After a bit you develop a feel for where the vulnerable bits are likely to be. Games don't differ drastically in how they're programmed. That said, it took me about a month to kill the big baby at the end of Half-life :p:

You watch - it'll be its knee caps or something daft that are vulnerable :rolleyes:

[Richard M]

This article is very interesting:
http://www.techreport.com/etc/2004q3/ati-doom3/index.x?pg=1
Fair play to ATI, they are 100% honest here...

[greencreeper]

This article is very interesting:
http://www.techreport.com/etc/2004q3/ati-doom3/index.x?pg=1
Fair play to ATI, they are 100% honest here...

"as you can see, there's a mip map transition line running across the middle of the grate on the floor in our example screenshot"

Be damned if I can see it. Sheeesh. Some people don't know they're born - should check out the original Doom and then moan about lines :)

[Richard M]

I can see it, very clearly. :erm:
I insist on playing every game I own with 8xAA because I really hate crappy textures.

[greencreeper]

I can see it, very clearly. :erm:
I insist on playing every game I own with 8xAA because I really hate crappy textures.
<suddenly remembers to mention to Coggy his idea of an "Anorak of the Month" award>

:p: :D

[jamesclarke555]

I can see it, very clearly. :erm:
I insist on playing every game I own with 8xAA because I really hate crappy textures.
No biggy, just use AF in control panel and issue gone, it's a bug in the drivers which will be fixed.

[jamesclarke555]

This guy plays Doom3 and almost cry's with fear :D https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2005/01/9.gif

http://users.skynet.be/fa326379/Delta.wmv

[Stephen]

This guy plays Doom3 and almost cry's with fear :D https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2005/01/9.gif

http://users.skynet.be/fa326379/Delta.wmv
My god that is the funniest thing ever. I nearly wet my self it was that funny.:D

[Richard M]

:rofl:
Nothing beats playing Doom 3 in the dark. :cool:
It reminds me of when my mate Mandy played it, during one scene she let out an ear-piercing scream which lasted like 10 seconds. Classic. :D

[dilli-theclaw]

:rofl:
Nothing beats playing Doom 3 in the dark. :cool:
It reminds me of when my mate Mandy played it, during one scene she let out an ear-piercing scream which lasted like 10 seconds. Classic. :D

I've only been able to play it on a night when my missus is at work.... And the cow (being nice there) manages to creap up the stairs and jump me EVERY TIME I'm playing it :D

[Bifta]

I've only been able to play it on a night when my missus is at work.... And the cow (being nice there) manages to creap up the stairs and jump me EVERY TIME I'm playing it :D

Play it at 3am wearing a pair of headphones ... have a spare pair of underpants close by for when the mrs creeps in and shakes the back of your chair, since that incident I've turned my PC desk round so I can see the door opening.

[dilli-theclaw]

Play it at 3am wearing a pair of headphones ... have a spare pair of underpants close by for when the mrs creeps in and shakes the back of your chair, since that incident I've turned my PC desk round so I can see the door opening.

I was thinking of putting a mirror above my computer - as the door is directly behind me :)

[Richard M]

I was thinking of putting a mirror above my computer - as the door is directly behind me :)

I'm sure that would make the atmosphere worse if anything. :D
I'd have to keep looking into it "just to make sure" nothing is behind me.

[dilli-theclaw]

I'm sure that would make the atmosphere worse if anything. :D
I'd have to keep looking into it "just to make sure" nothing is behind me.

What's worse is that I'm just like the bloke in that video - I scare too easily :)

[Jon M]

The first time you meet the four-legged beastie when you're stuck in the little room with a glass wall. One of our cats chose the exact moment he jumps through the glass to jump up onto my lap.... poor cat went flying I jumped so badly.

[jamesclarke555]

id Software has released released a new patch (v1.1) for their hit first person shooter, Doom III (http://www.doom3.com/). Weighing in at 18megs, this puppy fixes a bunch of bugs, multiplayer tweaks and much more! Hit the mirrors below to get downloadin':
http://www.doom3.com/patch/D3_1_1.exe

[Bifta]

Some upcoming Doom III modifications:

Remake of the original Doom using the D3 engine-http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~aps303/doom3/cdoom/media.html

A Jedi mod-
http://www.planetdoom.com/doom3jedi/main.htm

Codename Reinforcements-
http://doom3.stormcraft.nl/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=29

System Shock 2 - Reloaded
http://rebooted.purkaia.net/index.htm