50M Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS) - Page 21

_wtf_ · 20-04-2011, 10:09

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Originally Posted by pabscars

Finally got my Sky BB up and running, only getting about about 3.5Mbps DL and 0.4 Up at the moment but what a diference

The ping is quite high due to my distance from the exchange but it's only to the first hop and gaming on it is world's apart, I played Black Op's on the PS3 for a hour last night and the only bit of lag I got was when a mate hosted (on Virgin) but that only lasted for a second or two plus no more getting shot round corners, no dropped bullets whilst sniping etc etc. It just goes to show that Jitter makes all the difference.

I've not had any signing in issues or error codes, voice quality whilst in game has improved with friends saying they can hear me clearer.

It's encouraging to hear your gaming has improved even with the low speeds you're getting.

I got BT installing on the 6th May purely for gaming

pabscars · 20-04-2011, 11:00

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

interleaving is a buffer added to add error correction, the higher its set then more latency the connection has. High interleaving will add a lot of latency and can easily triple base latency.

I just assumed that because I'm at the end of a couple of miles of copper, that's the reason the ping is as high as it is.

Either way as long as it performs as well as it did last night I will be happy, but the true test will be whether it can sustain me gaming while the wife is on her lappy on you tube and facebook etc.

Time will tell, but if I'm right I think standard definition you tube only uses about 2Mbps??, gaming is next to nothing so I should be ok.

One thing I did notice was that the MTU was set at 1500 and I thought ADSL should ideally be a little lower eg 1472??

Any advice welcome

craigj2k12 · 20-04-2011, 12:27

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Originally Posted by pabscars

I just assumed that because I'm at the end of a couple of miles of copper, that's the reason the ping is as high as it is.

Either way as long as it performs as well as it did last night I will be happy, but the true test will be whether it can sustain me gaming while the wife is on her lappy on you tube and facebook etc.

Time will tell, but if I'm right I think standard definition you tube only uses about 2Mbps??, gaming is next to nothing so I should be ok.

One thing I did notice was that the MTU was set at 1500 and I thought ADSL should ideally be a little lower eg 1472??

Any advice welcome

depends on the network, most isps have it set at 1500, but some use 1472, and some even use 1400

pabscars · 20-04-2011, 12:34

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

depends on the network, most isps have it set at 1500, but some use 1472, and some even use 1400

Cheers Craig, I will have a play over the next few days and see if any gains can be had

craigj2k12 · 20-04-2011, 12:36

to calculate what MTU you should use

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/MTU2.htm

pabscars · 20-04-2011, 12:44

A few of my online buddies have BT ADSL and don't have any serious issues with FPS games like Black Op's etc.

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

to calculate what MTU you should use

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/MTU2.htm

Rep sent

much obliged

kalleh · 20-04-2011, 15:28

call up sky and tell them to reduce your maxdelays pabscars and youll see a big improvement in ping

pabscars · 20-04-2011, 15:42

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Originally Posted by kalleh

call up sky and tell them to reduce your maxdelays pabscars and youll see a big improvement in ping

Can you give me a little more info Kalleh, is this within Sky's remit to change stuff like this.

Also I have to bear in mind that (according to the literature) I have to wait 10 days for my line to stabilise and during that time my speed will fluctuate.

Chrysalis · 20-04-2011, 16:32

pabscars you have proved a point I made before tho.

the point been jitter is king over base latency, you have a high base latency but good jitter hence your improvement in gaming.

kalleh · 20-04-2011, 17:20

Yeah if you speak to someone who doesnt know what it is try to speak to either senior support but generally the term used it maxdelay/interleaving.

craigj2k12 · 20-04-2011, 17:36

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Originally Posted by kalleh

Yeah if you speak to someone who doesnt know what it is try to speak to either senior support but generally the term used it maxdelay/interleaving.

max delay and interleaving is a completley different thing. on LLU sky will NOT put you onto a zero interleaving profile whatsoever, i dont even think the staff have the option to, however on the non LLU packages i think they can. on the LLU they have the option of reducing the max delay, from what i remember its from 16 to 8 to reduce ping

pabscars · 20-04-2011, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

pabscars you have proved a point I made before tho.

the point been jitter is king over base latency, you have a high base latency but good jitter hence your improvement in gaming.

Agreed, fingers crossed it stays that way

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

max delay and interleaving is a completley different thing. on LLU sky will NOT put you onto a zero interleaving profile whatsoever, i dont even think the staff have the option to, however on the non LLU packages i think they can. on the LLU they have the option of reducing the max delay, from what i remember its from 16 to 8 to reduce ping

Interesting stuff guys and big thanks for the heads up, so lets say after the settling in period I can ring up Sky (LLU) and ask them to flick a switch or whatever they do to reduce the max delay to 8 and they should know what I'm talking about, will this have any impact on Jitter at all.

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Just noticed the Sky monitor has started running again, I don't know why I've not done anything.

pip08456 · 20-04-2011, 21:42

After your earlier post I checked my Infinity graph which was also a mass of red.

Turns out my IP had changed.

Looks like I have to monitor that as I am used to VM IP's being sticky (sort of).

pabscars · 20-04-2011, 22:09

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Originally Posted by pip08456

After your earlier post I checked my Infinity graph which was also a mass of red.

Turns out my IP had changed.

Looks like I have to monitor that as I am used to VM IP's being sticky (sort of).

It was the first thing I checked pip, no harm done at least it's working again

Chrysalis · 20-04-2011, 23:41

that is my major gripe with the tbb monitoring, no facility to edit the ip of a monitor. So when I went back to the superhub as the ip was new I had to make a new graph, I expect when I go back to the vmng300 if the dhcp expires so new ip again, it will be yet another new graph.