08-10-2021, 13:27
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k
Tbf it's already in the open lol their iptv service lot of testing going on now so shouldn't be long before vm broadband customers can get it, then afterwards it'll be available to anyone with decent broadband (25mbs) is what they recommend although for sd 4mbs will be plenty.
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Dammit, there's me hoping they were relaunching the Telly Tablet ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif) ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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08-10-2021, 14:58
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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We pretend that don't exist lol, mind you i saw one in a local cash converters the other day for £99 lol.
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08-10-2021, 16:36
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by Joedm45
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Be better with Telly Tubbies..
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08-10-2021, 17:08
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by Bob
It's certainly an interesting proposition.
You're not locked into a 4 year contract for the TV service, but it's the term of the loan to cover the physical TV you're buying. It looks like there is a 2 year term and an option to pay outright.
The TV contract looks to be 31 days, however it's worth noting that there are only "up to 140 channels" available, with no indication which channels aside from the Sky portfolio. So whilst the monthly pricing seems quite reasonable, you're getting less for your money. But to be expected on a monthly contract.
Dolby Atmos and HDR look to require an extra £5 spend per month and there was some mention of ad skipping being included for free for the first 12 months, then £5 a month there after. But wasn't sure to what services the ad skipping would apply to - maybe recordings?
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What you are locked into is Sky. Glass doesn’t operate with any other provider - if you cancel Sky, you will only be able to receive terrestrial TV, as long as you are connected to an aerial.
You will only get 140 channels on Glass because as I understand it, you will only be able to receive HD and UHD channels.
This TV is OK for Sky fanatics who will never cancel their Sky subscription, but for those who want to keep their options open - beware!
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08-10-2021, 17:37
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
Seems to me that with the price of these TV's you'd be better off buying a top notch Japanese built smart TV and a separate STB than having some cheaply built Chinese POS.
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08-10-2021, 17:48
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
After discounting the +1 channels - it seems a lot of channels will not be available.
It may be a similar line-up to the SkyGO service which has quite a few missing - perhaps no streaming contract with the provder.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
You will only get 140 channels on Glass because as I understand it, you will only be able to receive HD and UHD channels.
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08-10-2021, 17:49
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
What you are locked into is Sky. Glass doesn’t operate with any other provider - if you cancel Sky, you will only be able to receive terrestrial TV, as long as you are connected to an aerial.
You will only get 140 channels on Glass because as I understand it, you will only be able to receive HD and UHD channels.
This TV is OK for Sky fanatics who will never cancel their Sky subscription, but for those who want to keep their options open - beware!
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I think the level of functionality that is disabled if you cancel your subscription needs clarifying by Sky. I don't understand how buyers can be prevented from using Glass with another provider (eg VM) unless the HDMI inputs are disabled.
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08-10-2021, 17:59
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital
I think the level of functionality that is disabled if you cancel your subscription needs clarifying by Sky. I don't understand how buyers can be prevented from using Glass with another provider (eg VM) unless the HDMI inputs are disabled.
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Not sure they would do that as there are simple uses of the HDMI ports such as for a Bluray player and for gaming.
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08-10-2021, 18:07
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Not sure they would do that as there are simple uses of the HDMI ports such as for a Bluray player and for gaming.
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That's my thinking too.
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08-10-2021, 18:34
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by Hugh
It’s got an aerial socket (it’s freeview enabled), so there’s that as back-up.
That’s what we have on our Sony TV.
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Surely most TV,: s have one ? ![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
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So I guess it is an ok way of getting a TV on interest free credit (although if you shop around Paypal Credit with some retailers do interest free)
I have to say again, Who made up the pricing? £1049 to buy the 65 inch model outright or pay £21 which is £1008 so buy it on terms save £40 and not see all the money go at once
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Not seen any cost but could payments be 4 weekly ? ie 13 payments per year ? .
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08-10-2021, 18:52
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Surely most TV,: s have one ? ![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Not seen any cost but could payments be 4 weekly ? ie 13 payments per year ? .
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They also need to have a Freeview tuner - it wasn’t clear initially that Sky Glass had this.
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10-10-2021, 18:40
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
What you are locked into is Sky. Glass doesn’t operate with any other provider - if you cancel Sky, you will only be able to receive terrestrial TV, as long as you are connected to an aerial.
You will only get 140 channels on Glass because as I understand it, you will only be able to receive HD and UHD channels.
This TV is OK for Sky fanatics who will never cancel their Sky subscription, but for those who want to keep their options open - beware!
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The TV's do come with HDMI ports so I wouldn't say "locked in" - Assuming these ports would work for your DVD players, game consoles etc. So technically you could plug in a Virgin box if you really wanted to.
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10-10-2021, 20:30
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Re: Sky Glass TV
Sky did previously release their own branded TV's back around 2003, they were simply cheap TV's with the Sky branding and only available from SkyBuy, Sky's interactive shop that was only available to Sky Digital. Those TVs could work with any provider, and I would be very surprised if this Sky Glass did not come with external HDMI for customers to connect their consoles or Blu-ray players, unless they intend to introduce some sort of Xbox Cloud or PlayStation Now app for that.
There were also Sky IDTV's from Panasonic and LG, the former also featured a Freeview tuner which Sky later abandoned, since these sets fell behind software upgrade releases. These TV's had built in internal Digibox's to compete with the ONdigital integrated TVs.
To be honest the lack of Sky Q support or any sort of satellite dish connectivity puts me off this, I don't like having everything going through one wire since if that fails your left with nothing, and I doubt this TV would be friendly to mobile data plans.
At least with Virgin the TV is somewhat separate from the broadband so if that goes down you can continue to watch the linear or recorded channels, just with no ondemand access. But with BT/TalkTalk TV since everything subscription related goes though the internet, your left with nothing but the Freeview channels. And there's the issue when trying to download a Steam game and watch a subscription channel at the same time, the TV service starts to break up since it cant handle the multicast channels whilst downloading, so I have to cap the Stream download to about 1 Mbps.
Basically we are not ready for IPTV just yet, at least for HD or 4K.
Last edited by andreww342003; 10-10-2021 at 20:33.
Reason: Corrections
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11-10-2021, 11:12
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Just a Geek
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Re: Bye bye Virgin Media?
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Seems to me that with the price of these TV's you'd be better off buying a top notch Japanese built smart TV and a separate STB than having some cheaply built Chinese POS.
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I thought these were LG? Nothing wrong with LG TVs
But you are right for the price I would buy Hisense and save a few hundred quid
The next thing I buy by choice ie if my existing tv lasts is a short throw projector and one of those really nice none reflective screens but that is years off my pocket hahahaha
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