[Update] Windows 10 Discussion - Page 41

Ben B · 01-06-2015, 18:40

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Originally Posted by peanut

It would have been nice to have a choice to be able to least hide this annoying upgrade icon in my taskbar.

How to remove:

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-re...dows-10-app-pc

**Paul** · 01-06-2015, 20:44

No rush ;

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.... the company will only offer the free upgrade until July 29, 2016 (one year to be exact).

(From windows central site).

qasdfdsaq · 01-06-2015, 22:07

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Not everyone keeps a constant eye on IT developments. It's just a mechanism to alert all relevant users that it is coming soon.

The implication of getting it "first" and "reserving" suggests there's going to be limited supply and a wait for people who don't "reserve"

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Originally Posted by peanut

It would have been nice to have a choice to be able to least hide this annoying upgrade icon in my taskbar.

You could just... not install unimportant Windows Updates.

Stop It · 02-06-2015, 10:58

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

You could just... not install unimportant Windows Updates.

I believe it was flagged as important, was released a week or two ago and didn't indicate that this was what the update was for. In those circumstances I could understand why people just updating Windows as normal could be forgiven for installing this accidentally.

Edit: It was flagged as Recommended recently, which means it would be an automatic install for the majority of people. Again, I can't fault people for not realising they had this installed.

johnhook · 02-06-2015, 11:10

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

The implication of getting it "first" and "reserving" suggests there's going to be limited supply and a wait for people who don't "reserve"

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You could just... not install unimportant Windows Updates.

limited supply of digital media lol lol only limiting factor is bandwidth so those who reserve get access to the bandwidth before those who do not. Just like those who "reserve" their seat at the cinema or use fast track to get on a ride at Alton towers get preferential treatment

As you see their terminology was just fine only you didn't understand it

qasdfdsaq · 02-06-2015, 11:41

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Originally Posted by Stop It

I believe it was flagged as important, was released a week or two ago and didn't indicate that this was what the update was for. In those circumstances I could understand why people just updating Windows as normal could be forgiven for installing this accidentally.

Edit: It was flagged as Recommended recently, which means it would be an automatic install for the majority of people. Again, I can't fault people for not realising they had this installed.

Are you saying it was previously important and now changed to just Recommended? That's sneaky...

I can see it being "Recommended", i.e. Microsoft recommends you allow them to recommend you upgrade to Windows 10, but certainly not Important. And I've never seen the class of a Windows Update change retrospectively.

Yes, it would be an automatic install for the majority of people, but the majority of people aren't the ones complaining. It's the ones who oppose the idea of Microsoft deploying additional software to their system, yet choose to allow Microsoft to deploy any software to their system that are complaining.

Stop It · 02-06-2015, 12:13

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Are you saying it was previously important and now changed to just Recommended? That's sneaky...

I can see it being "Recommended", i.e. Microsoft recommends you allow them to recommend you upgrade to Windows 10, but certainly not Important. And I've never seen the class of a Windows Update change retrospectively.

Yes, it would be an automatic install for the majority of people, but the majority of people aren't the ones complaining. It's the ones who oppose the idea of Microsoft deploying additional software to their system, yet choose to allow Microsoft to deploy any software to their system that are complaining.

I got it wrong sorry. it was an optional update from March until May, when it changed to Recommended, and thus part of a normal Windows update for machines MS deemed "eligible".

And I understand what you are saying. I think most users trust Microsoft to deploy updates as they see fit and maybe this one could've been a bit better. The option to say "No, and go away" to the Windows 10 button would be welcome.

qasdfdsaq · 02-06-2015, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Stop It

I got it wrong sorry. it was an optional update from March until May, when it changed to Recommended, and thus part of a normal Windows update for machines MS deemed "eligible".

Ah, OK. Still sneaky, though perhaps not quite as much.

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And I understand what you are saying. I think most users trust Microsoft to deploy updates as they see fit and maybe this one could've been a bit better. The option to say "No, and go away" to the Windows 10 button would be welcome.

I agree, and to be honest I was rather "WTF" when I saw it on my own computer. It's rather coy how the update makes no mention of what it actually does and the icon has no option to remove it, they seem to be pushing really hard to move users onto Windows 10...

Personally I just went into Task Manager, shot the task, and deleted the folder because that's what I do to unwanted programs

Ironically, I will shortly be upgrading the machine concerned to Windows 8.1...

Dave42 · 03-06-2015, 10:58

The Free Windows 10 Will Support Unlimited Clean Installs

http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-F...s-483135.shtml

well done MS

johnhook · 03-06-2015, 11:07

Really no one should need to do a clean install any more than once anyway. Unless of course like many in IT you appear to enjoy having to reinstall everything over and over again

How I will be doing things on July 29th

Take a system image of my working 8.1 pro

Upgrade to 10 take a system image.

Recover to clean install update and install any drivers then take a system image

Install all applications and take a system image

With all these in place I can mess around with any of the install run tests on different applications and if anything goes wrong I have a choice of where to recover from. Once I am happy everything is working I can get rid of some of the images until this point I will keep everything. I will then back up my fully working windows 10 install to a couple of places so it is safe as well as keeping a local image. With this hardware then I will never need to run a clean install as can easily recover to a fully tested working system in minutes

MalteseFalcon · 03-06-2015, 14:41

I assume that those of us on the technical preview will be upgraded to full version on July 29, or will we have to clean install?

Stephen · 03-06-2015, 14:53

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Originally Posted by johnhook

Really no one should need to do a clean install any more than once anyway. Unless of course like many in IT you appear to enjoy having to reinstall everything over and over again

How I will be doing things on July 29th

Take a system image of my working 8.1 pro

Upgrade to 10 take a system image.

Recover to clean install update and install any drivers then take a system image

Install all applications and take a system image

With all these in place I can mess around with any of the install run tests on different applications and if anything goes wrong I have a choice of where to recover from. Once I am happy everything is working I can get rid of some of the images until this point I will keep everything. I will then back up my fully working windows 10 install to a couple of places so it is safe as well as keeping a local image. With this hardware then I will never need to run a clean install as can easily recover to a fully tested working system in minutes

Why only once? I do a clean install at least once a year or if replacing hardware more often.

Many others would do the same. I back up all my files though but no need for a full image.

Stuart · 03-06-2015, 15:27

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Originally Posted by johnhook

Really no one should need to do a clean install any more than once anyway. Unless of course like many in IT you appear to enjoy having to reinstall everything over and over again

How I will be doing things on July 29th

Take a system image of my working 8.1 pro

Upgrade to 10 take a system image.

Recover to clean install update and install any drivers then take a system image

Install all applications and take a system image

With all these in place I can mess around with any of the install run tests on different applications and if anything goes wrong I have a choice of where to recover from. Once I am happy everything is working I can get rid of some of the images until this point I will keep everything. I will then back up my fully working windows 10 install to a couple of places so it is safe as well as keeping a local image. With this hardware then I will never need to run a clean install as can easily recover to a fully tested working system in minutes

Depends on your needs. As an IT Technician, my needs for software change quite regularly, and I only reformat the machine (usually) once a year, and tend to install software as and when I need it. I reformat twice or more on the odd occasion that I really need to. So, the amount of time I would save by switching to using images would be minimal at best. At worst, it would take me longer to generate all the images than it currently does to re-install what I need.

johnhook · 03-06-2015, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Stuart

Depends on your needs. As an IT Technician, my needs for software change quite regularly, and I only reformat the machine (usually) once a year, and tend to install software as and when I need it. I reformat twice or more on the odd occasion that I really need to. So, the amount of time I would save by switching to using images would be minimal at best. At worst, it would take me longer to generate all the images than it currently does to re-install what I need.

well I could for all you know be creating an image whilst sitting here typing on a forum so time it takes to create is irrelevant as I do it when using the machine anyway. I am different to you in as much as I use the same software so the time I save is in all the installations and of course by keeping a incremental system image you save time on all updates unless you create a slipstreamed installation which would negate any time saved

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Why only once? I do a clean install at least once a year or if replacing hardware more often.

Many others would do the same. I back up all my files though but no need for a full image.

only hardware that would force the need for a reinstall would be a total switch in chipset anything else is unlikely to require one

Many others take no backups system images save time in the ways previously mentions ie updates etc

I know full well that restoring a fully stable system image with everything I use takes a hell of a lot less time than installing windows installing drivers updating windows installing applications and so on but each to their own

downquark1 · 03-06-2015, 21:06

I had to reinstall after a disk corruption issue. It's always useful to have.