21-06-2008, 18:46
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#9796
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Services: Virgin - BB,TV,Phone
Sky box - with no sub
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by popper
i wonder what would happen to the trademark if lots of people started complaining to the BBC and it's "right to reply" program had to go on air and explain its not them, but kent and Co, your friendly ex rootkit vendor and potential future commercial pirate.....of 70% of the Uk interweb
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Worth a shot... http://www.bbc.co.uk/webwise/ click on 'contact Us'
Nothing ventured... nothing gained...
(In black this time)
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21-06-2008, 18:49
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#9797
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Guest
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by davethejag
Hi Thanks for the help, I am using Internet Explorer 7 and XP Home SP2. I have noticed that "predictive" searches have also gone wrong on ebay and YouTube. I have AVG 7.5 free edition and Spybot running, all up to date. I am a bit of a novice in computers but your help will be appreciated! I have managed to register on NoDPI with my sons help by adding "forum" to the web address.
Thanks again,
Dave.
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Ok easy ones first - I'm doing this in Vista as I've just uninstalled ie7 (but I think it's the same in xp+ie7) close Internet Explorer and go Start / Control Panel / Internet Options in the "Browsing History" section click the Delete button then in the Delete Browsing History window that opens in the first section "Temporary Internet Files" click the Delete Files button and click Yes at the confirmation.
This will clear Internet Explorer's file cache
When finished click close / apply ok your way back to the desktop
Try the site again
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21-06-2008, 19:12
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#9798
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Inactive
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Services: The wonders of Sky TV BT line and Aquiss.net ADSL cable dies on 5th RIP VM.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by icsys
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My message to the BBC.
With all the talk of BT starting trials again with the company Phorm using a product called Webwise. This is going to get confusing to people and the BBC could end up being accused of spying on people who are novices with Internet and PC.s.
Your Webwise is to teach people how to use IT related applications safely we use this with children in school where I used to work.
Phorm webwise is more a targeted adverts platform that ISP's like BT are trying to market as an anti phishing safety. The company Phorm if you check back in their history used to be called 121media. A malware/spyware company that placed rather nasty rootkits on unsuspecting PC's. There is talk that Phorm are about to rebrand as Webwise. For the safety of children and novices this needs to be stopped. It is the novices that Phorm will harvest the most info by piggy backing their every click over the internet, forging cookies and pretending to be the website you requested. They use a layer 7 redirect 4 times before the customer arrives at your website if they requested the BBC.
Please help those very people who need this most and defend your webwise name.
Regards
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21-06-2008, 20:11
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#9799
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol
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No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Dephormation is back online.
Here's a picture for the Information Commissioner, Richard Thomas. And the Home Office too. And 80/20 while we're on the topic.
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21-06-2008, 20:18
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
As per Mick's previous warnings, you might be better advised to stick to debating people's posts rather than attacking them directly - just a thought
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hmmm, yeah here's my thought, well Jack Dee's thoughts really, so if i'm gone a while... ho hum
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yR3IT1yYyrE
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21-06-2008, 20:40
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by icsys
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HP also have a prodcut called Webwise http://jazz.external.hp.com/src/webwise/ WebWise MPE/iX Secure Web Server
In fact if phorm comes in, sales of HP webwise could take off.
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21-06-2008, 20:59
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#9802
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I've just visited the BBC Webwise site and noticed that there is a comment in their Net Comment section about Phorm by one Bill Thompson. He gives a simple but understandable explanation of DPI (well, at least, I thunk I understood it? - duh?)
He doesn't, however, appear to mention BT Webwise at all.
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21-06-2008, 21:19
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 84
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Paul Delaney
Ok easy ones first - I'm doing this in Vista as I've just uninstalled ie7 (but I think it's the same in xp+ie7) close Internet Explorer and go Start / Control Panel / Internet Options in the "Browsing History" section click the Delete button then in the Delete Browsing History window that opens in the first section "Temporary Internet Files" click the Delete Files button and click Yes at the confirmation.
This will clear Internet Explorer's file cache
When finished click close / apply ok your way back to the desktop
Try the site again
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Thanks Paul, done that but those 3 tabs are still not working. The only thing that has really happened to this computer before was when a while back I clicked on the link to view the video of the Phorm public meeting, the site that was hacked by the Russians and my AVG stopped a threat and I got rid of it. I googled "parasite" and followed advice to check programs in "add and remove Programs" and look for anything that I did not recognise. I found a program called "Sibelius Scorch (Activex Only)" lord knows where that came from but I removed it although it looked legitimate when going to their website. Is this the sort of thing we can expect if Phorm get a foothold? Thanks for your help Paul.
Dave.
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21-06-2008, 21:21
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#9804
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Bobcat
I've just visited the BBC Webwise site and noticed that there is a comment in their Net Comment section about Phorm by one Bill Thompson. He gives a simple but understandable explanation of DPI (well, at least, I thunk I understood it? - duh?)
He doesn't, however, appear to mention BT Webwise at all.
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I quoted Bill Thompson in my message to the beeb.
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21-06-2008, 21:56
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by popper
i wonder what would happen to the trademark if lots of people started complaining to the BBC and it's "right to reply" program had to go on air and explain its not them, but kent and Co, your friendly ex rootkit vendor and potential future commercial pirate.....of 70% of the Uk interweb
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LOL, yeah, I pay my licence fee, so why should BT users benefit from an exclusive deal with the BBC's Webwise to provide protection against online fraud and make their Internet browsing more relevant.
Seriously though, I'm sure some BT users will see Webwise and assume it is to do with the BBC.
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21-06-2008, 22:29
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by pseudonym
LOL, yeah, I pay my licence fee, so why should BT users benefit from an exclusive deal with the BBC's Webwise to provide protection against online fraud and make their Internet browsing more relevant.
Seriously though, I'm sure some BT users will see Webwise and assume it is to do with the BBC.
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Consumer direct, part of OFT here.
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/contact
Complaint : If I google 'webwise', BBC is the top link. I trust the BBC. Why has phorm hijacked the name?
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21-06-2008, 23:03
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#9807
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by davethejag
Thanks Paul, done that but those 3 tabs are still not working. The only thing that has really happened to this computer before was when a while back I clicked on the link to view the video of the Phorm public meeting, the site that was hacked by the Russians and my AVG stopped a threat and I got rid of it. I googled "parasite" and followed advice to check programs in "add and remove Programs" and look for anything that I did not recognise. I found a program called "Sibelius Scorch (Activex Only)" lord knows where that came from but I removed it although it looked legitimate when going to their website. Is this the sort of thing we can expect if Phorm get a foothold? Thanks for your help Paul.
Dave.
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Same here have tried to register three times now but never yet recieved email to confirm password have tried with three different names and emails suggest it gets fixed asap as there may be lurkers on this forum wanting the info.
Tarquin
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21-06-2008, 23:18
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#9808
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Sadly I have received no registration e-mail either (from nodpi.org). I used my throwaway hotmail address in case it is of any significance, is plausible hotmail isn't letting it through - it's filtering can be indiscriminate.
On a positive note, all site navigation appears to be working
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21-06-2008, 23:25
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by davethejag
Thanks Paul, done that but those 3 tabs are still not working. The only thing that has really happened to this computer before was when a while back I clicked on the link to view the video of the Phorm public meeting, the site that was hacked by the Russians and my AVG stopped a threat and I got rid of it. I googled "parasite" and followed advice to check programs in "add and remove Programs" and look for anything that I did not recognise. I found a program called "Sibelius Scorch (Activex Only)" lord knows where that came from but I removed it although it looked legitimate when going to their website. Is this the sort of thing we can expect if Phorm get a foothold? Thanks for your help Paul.
Dave.
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Ok go here and download ComboFix.exe to your desktop
physically disconnect the modem cable
shut down avg (right click icon and select exit)
Double-click ComboFix.exe and follow the instructions
Avoid clicking the mouse inside the combofix blue command window
Combofix may reboot windows for you
The program has finished running when the Notepad page appears showing you the log.
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Originally Posted by JackSon
Sadly I have received no registration e-mail either (from nodpi.org). I used my throwaway hotmail address in case it is of any significance, is plausible hotmail isn't letting it through - it's filtering can be indiscriminate.
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Mine ended up in the bulk email folder
EDIT: The redirector probably triggers a spam filter - check spam folders too:
[No Deep Packet Inspection] Your username and password
Friday, 20 June, 2008 2:47 AM
From No DPI Fri Jun 20 01:47:06 2008
Return-Path: <nobody@tarka.cheapukwebhosting.com>
Authentication-Results: mta139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com from=nodpi.org; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 78.129.175.68 (EHLO tarka.cheapukwebhosting.com) (78.129.175.68) by mta139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:54:54 +0000
Received: by tarka.cheapukwebhosting.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id E1F56270A6; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:47:06 +0100 (BST)
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22-06-2008, 00:21
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Can you please delete post #9766 rather than replace what was a reasonable post with “[Admin Edit:- Off-topic Post Deleted]â€Â. Given we have other posts in this thread containing such things as the complete lyrics to the Python’s Finland Song, what will the casual reader think my post contained, to make it even more off-topic?
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Originally Posted by Mick
Polite Reminder: I have just deleted several off-topic posts despite our requests for the topic to remain civil.
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Thank you, the casual reader will think my posts are offensive and ‘uncivilised’.
If you’ve enjoyed reading this post and would like to know more about Finland, why not ring Mr Griffiths of Hemel Hempstead. He and his charming wife Edna will be glad to answer any of your questions, and who knows, may show you some of their unrivalled collection of Scandinavian credit cards.
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