14-06-2017, 16:57
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Re: The 2017 General Election
It seems Farron might be in a bit of bother as Brian Paddick has resigned:
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I've resigned as @LibDems Shadow Home Secretary over concerns about the leader's views on various issues that were highlighted during GE17.
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https://order-order.com/2017/06/14/f...coup-underway/
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14-06-2017, 18:48
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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14-06-2017, 18:56
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Re: The 2017 General Election
Yep, was just about to post the same link, Tim Farron has quit as Lib Dem leader.
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14-06-2017, 19:46
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Re: The 2017 General Election
Yup. Should have done better with the General Election although it's easy in retrospect to say they were wrong to focus on Brexit.
He never properly articulated how he resolved the conflict between his faith and his politics. Personally I think it's liberal to vote to extend the rights of others irrespective of your own faith, liberalism isn't about making everyone have the same views not imposing those views on others. There was a time when it would be considered wrong for an atheist to be the leader of one of the main parties, as that becomes less bizarre we shouldn't flip it around and make it hard for someone religion to be so.
But he kept dodging the question hoping it would go away and in the end people are entitled to object to that and use their vote accordingly.
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14-06-2017, 20:00
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Re: The 2017 General Election
Maybe they'll bring back Paddy Pants Down to restore a bit of pride in the party...
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14-06-2017, 20:28
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Re: The 2017 General Election
Jo Swinson probably, hope it isn't Cable.
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14-06-2017, 20:57
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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No surprise there given his hypocritical stance on several things.
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14-06-2017, 22:03
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Yup. Should have done better with the General Election although it's easy in retrospect to say they were wrong to focus on Brexit.
He never properly articulated how he resolved the conflict between his faith and his politics. Personally I think it's liberal to vote to extend the rights of others irrespective of your own faith, liberalism isn't about making everyone have the same views not imposing those views on others. There was a time when it would be considered wrong for an atheist to be the leader of one of the main parties, as that becomes less bizarre we shouldn't flip it around and make it hard for someone religion to be so.
But he kept dodging the question hoping it would go away and in the end people are entitled to object to that and use their vote accordingly.
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Agrred especially when they had Jeremy (bunny) Thorpe as leader in the 70's. He didn't want to force his views on anybody, just wanted all treated as equal no matter what sexual orientation etc. I still think he may have been the best leader they've had.
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14-06-2017, 22:28
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Agrred especially when they had Jeremy (bunny) Thorpe as leader in the 70's. He didn't want to force his views on anybody, just wanted all treated as equal no matter what sexual orientation etc. I still think he may have been the best leader they've had.
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I remember the, "how do you get 3 liberals on a bar stool?" taunt.
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14-06-2017, 22:41
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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I remember the, "how do you get 3 liberals on a bar stool?" taunt.
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As do I but society was different then, thankfully we have evolved except for Faron it seems.
Although I'm "straight" I have many friends in the LGBT community and have for several years. I have no problem with them they are still my friends.
In fact the most recent one I met (about 5 yrs ago) who I still have a drink and a natter with was surprised when I answered his "You do realise I'm Gay" statement with "Are you a good person or not if so I don't give a ****!"
We've been good friends ever since.
I take people as I find them, not by their sexual orientation, that's none of my business.
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14-06-2017, 22:51
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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As do I but society was different then, thankfully we have evolved except for Faron it seems.
Although I'm "straight" I have many friends in the LGBT community and have for several years. I have no problem with them they are still my friends.
In fact the most recent one I met (about 5 yrs ago) who I still have a drink and a natter with was surprised when I answered his "You do realise I'm Gay" statement with "Are you a good person or not if so I don't give a ****!"
We've been good friends ever since.
I take people as I find them, not by their sexual orientation, that's none of my business.
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Absolutely.
People seem to confuse 'legal' with 'compulsory'...
We have lots of friends, gay and straight (single and married) - they're our friends because we like them and get on with them; their sexual orientation is irrelevant.
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14-06-2017, 23:08
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Absolutely.
We have lots of friends, gay and straight (single and married) - they're our friends because we like them and get on with them; their sexual orientation is irrelevant.
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That's what makes the world turn around IMHO!
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15-06-2017, 07:28
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Peterborough are well shot of their MP.....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7790296.html
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Outgoing Conservative MP Stewart Jackson has contacted a former constituent who had been critical of him on Facebook to call him a "thick chav" days after losing his Peterborough seat to Labour.
Mr Jackson, a prominent Brexiteer and ex-Parliamentary Private Secretary to David Davis, warned Christian Stanley, a businessman in his constituency, "If you print any **** about me on Facebook in the future you will regret it."
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15-06-2017, 07:36
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Aren't most thick chavs jobless, sounds like Mr Jackson has more in common with them than his ex constituent
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15-06-2017, 11:15
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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No surprise there given his hypocritical stance on several things.
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That was my complaint with him. He should have stood firm on his beliefs and faith as they are similar to mine. He may have raised the ire of some but being open about them is better. Being overt in your faith lets people know where you stand clearly and many who would not agree with the position would support the man. Hypocrisy is a bigger turn-off than disagreement.
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