15-01-2018, 11:35
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Pavement parking fines
Around here it's Uni students who park legally, but residents who park illegally. I hope our council starts to take action too.
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15-01-2018, 12:02
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Re: Pavement parking fines
Its only gonna get worse here in Swansea. More and more student accommodations with no parking available.
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15-01-2018, 15:25
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Re: Pavement parking fines
It's a bit of a grey area though - is it illegal to park on the pavement if there are no signs telling you not to?
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15-01-2018, 15:29
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Originally Posted by Kursk
It's a bit of a grey area though - is it illegal to park on the pavement if there are no signs telling you not to?
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...ing-238-to-252
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Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
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15-01-2018, 15:44
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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It's a bit of a grey area though - is it illegal to park on the pavement if there are no signs telling you not to?
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Some councils operate by a "rule of thumb" that you must park to allow passage of a double baby buggy.
It has been illegal to drive on the pavement since 1883 and section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 is used in the current Highway Code under rule 145, but finding a car on the pavement won't always mean a fine or points as "driving on the pavement" was not witnessed.
Earlier this year the Government set out plans in their Accessibility action plan which could change the rules surrounding pavement parking.
Under section 8 49-51 it outlines the problem of pavement parking and the action going forward.
-8.49 As set out in the 2017 manifesto, where you live, shop, go out, travel or park your car should not be determined by your disability. Vehicles parked on pavements can cause significant problems and potential danger to people who are blind or partially sighted, and to wheelchair users, among others.
-8.50 Local authorities have the powers to introduce pavement parking restrictions where they consider it appropriate and the Department for Transport has taken steps to assist them in this.
-8.51 We convened a roundtable meeting in 2016 where it was identified that the major concerns affecting the ability to introduce and enforce pavement parking prohibitions (outside of London) were issues relating to the processing of Traffic Regulation Orders. We are planning to launch a survey in autumn 2017 in order to gather evidence about the current situation, the costs and timescales for processing TROs, and information about options for change.
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15-01-2018, 23:41
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Thanks. The 'MUST NOT' for London is clear enough; the 'SHOULD NOT' for elsewhere is a little more vague.
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Some councils operate by a "rule of thumb" that you must park to allow passage of a double baby buggy.
It has been illegal to drive on the pavement since 1883 and section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 is used in the current Highway Code under rule 145, but finding a car on the pavement won't always mean a fine or points as "driving on the pavement" was not witnessed.
Earlier this year the Government set out plans in their Accessibility action plan which could change the rules surrounding pavement parking.
Under section 8 49-51 it outlines the problem of pavement parking and the action going forward.
-8.49 As set out in the 2017 manifesto, where you live, shop, go out, travel or park your car should not be determined by your disability. Vehicles parked on pavements can cause significant problems and potential danger to people who are blind or partially sighted, and to wheelchair users, among others.
-8.50 Local authorities have the powers to introduce pavement parking restrictions where they consider it appropriate and the Department for Transport has taken steps to assist them in this.
-8.51 We convened a roundtable meeting in 2016 where it was identified that the major concerns affecting the ability to introduce and enforce pavement parking prohibitions (outside of London) were issues relating to the processing of Traffic Regulation Orders. We are planning to launch a survey in autumn 2017 in order to gather evidence about the current situation, the costs and timescales for processing TROs, and information about options for change.
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Thanks. It'll be interesting to see if anything becomes of the action plan; processing TFOs outside London may have prohibitive costs given the potential for challenge in individual cases.
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19-01-2018, 10:16
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Re: Pavement parking fines
Who needs fines when you've installed "cat claws".
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The "CatClaw" tech could be installed on kerbs to puncture tyres that went where they shouldn't.
It could be used on roads where parking on pavements is prohibited and would help if the London Bridge or Westminster Bridge attacks were copied.
The system uses a car or lorry's own weight to expose a sharp steel road that splits the tyre's rubber when it's driven over.
It's so small and cheap to make that thousands could be installed along kerbs - and it takes minutes to put in place at a few pounds per unit.
It's been designed so it's not dangerous to pedestrians – as a person standing on top of the device would not be heavy enough to activate it.
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Having to fork out on a couple of new tyres will be quite sufficient deterrant IMHO.
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19-01-2018, 10:24
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Who needs fines when you've installed "cat claws".
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Having to fork out on a couple of new tyres will be quite sufficient deterrant IMHO.
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That's a crime against welding
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19-01-2018, 10:32
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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That's a crime against welding
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Bit tacky.
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19-01-2018, 15:12
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Who needs fines when you've installed "cat claws".
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Having to fork out on a couple of new tyres will be quite sufficient deterrant IMHO.
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Could be fun if you need to mount the kerb for some reason. I bet ours isn't the only place where silly driving and parking forces users onto the kerb. And who fits them? You would also need to warn drivers to beware else someone will get billed.
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19-01-2018, 15:44
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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And who fits them? You would also need to warn drivers to beware else someone will get billed.
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True that
As with everything that looks a cheap, straight forward cure for a common problem, the 'hidden extras' involved in implementing the idea make it not so economical.
Using them around the areas of potential terrorist targets may work . . . although if concrete barricades and police armed with H&K machine guns doesn't deter them nothing will I guess.
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19-01-2018, 18:09
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Could be fun if you need to mount the kerb for some reason.
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or the Emergency services need to mount the kerb ..........
The simple fact of life in many places is that if people did not park partly on pavements, no traffic (other than moterbikes) would get through.
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19-01-2018, 19:27
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Re: Pavement parking fines
Less cars is the answer. If people didn't feel the need for several cars per household it would solve a lot of problems. Tax the hell out of extra cars in each house. Oh, and improve public transport, make it cheap too. It's a revolutionary idea, wonder why nobody has ever thought of it ??
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19-01-2018, 20:31
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Less cars is the answer. If people didn't feel the need for several cars per household it would solve a lot of problems. Tax the hell out of extra cars in each house. Oh, and improve public transport, make it cheap too. It's a revolutionary idea, wonder why nobody has ever thought of it ??
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Tax everything and get the bus everywhere how very labour .
Will you be bringing in compulsory brown ale drinking ?.
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19-01-2018, 20:32
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Re: Pavement parking fines
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Tax everything and get the bus everywhere how very labour .
Will you be bringing in compulsory brown ale drinking ?.
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