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Originally Posted by Osem
I think there's quite a few people around who like to whine about and exaggerate abuse, bullying, intimidation, threats etc. but don't mind indulging in some very unpleasant behaviour when it suits them. Of course when it's them doling out the nastiness and threats they don't see it as a problem at all. No doubt when the police scrutiny they welcomed turns up on their front door it'll be yet another excuse to claim they're being victimised. Sad, pathetic, people...
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All the incidents that i'm aware of have been a one way street.
It's the norm for those who discriminate and bully those in minority groups to try to think of an excuse or make up lies. Most right thinking people now believe that it is no longer socially acceptable to call someone out for being black/disabled/gay etc.
Claims of "they don't pull their weight", "they don't work as part of a team" etc will be used to try and mask their behaviour.
Of course, this doesn't mean that those in minority groups are above criticism where warranted.
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Originally Posted by Osem
There's more to it than that. I believe some people/groups are trying to engineer a situation in which they can effectively stifle opinions they don't like in the name of hate crimes. It's the same sort of warped 'mentality' demonstrated by the rent a mob thugs whose chosen method by which to demonstrate about brutality and violence is to attack the police, smash things up, set fire to buildings, intimidate staff etc.
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Some opinions are illegal to express in certain situations. It's always worth remembering that we do not have complete freedom of speech in this country and for very sound reasons.
In addition, despite us all being very different, as a society we all need to rub along together.
Part of this includes expressing ourselves tactfully, respectfully and politely; at other times it might mean having some self control and not saying anything if it is likely to lead to upset and hurt.
I remember you posting that this is something that you've tried to instill into your son.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
We have so many angles to this that make it an utter nightmare to have any specialist unit to deal with it any realistic threats made on or off the internet have sufficient laws in place to deal with them we don't need more. This will end up with police officers spending time more often then not dealing with hurt feelings and bruised ego's not the best use of their time.
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Research has shown that the "sticks and stones may break my bones, but calling will never hurt me" stance to be ineffective and wholly untrue. As a result, plans are afoot to treat verbal abuse in exactly the same way as physical abuse.
This is because sustained verbal or online bullying can do as much, if not more, damage than a physical attack.
What you may just brush off could end up with someone else taking their own life.
I've seen forum posts where those clearly suffering from mental health problems/disabilities have been castigated, vilified and bullied because of their 'behaviour'.
It's certainly a problematic and difficult area and i'm glad that it's being addressed at last.