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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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OB doesn't need facts, as George says, you gotta have Faith
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Well, Labour is part of the entrenched elite that so many people (not only in this country) have rejected. I can still hear snotty nosed Ed Miliband giving us all his pompous statements about how things were going to be 'because it's the right thing to do' which brought the worst out in a lot of people.
The fact that Labour would not address the mounting feeling of resentment about the Westminster and EU elite really does them no credit at all. The Conservatives have addressed it, so all credit to them for that.
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I am not sure how you are blaming Labour for the mess that the Tories created? I guess it is a tribal thing ..
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The Conservatives have addressed it, so all credit to them for that
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What parallel universe did this happen in? The Tories have "addressed the mounting feeling of resentment about the Westminster and EU elite"?
Come on, really? The degradation of the UK-owned manufacturing base, the lack of robust tax policies over the last decade to address offshore tax evasion, non-existent Corporation tax payments for globals, runaway housing inflation fueled by uncontrolled foreign investment (inc. money laundering), spending billions on projects intended to favour the City & big business, running down public services while watching the City & privatised national services taking billions out of this country, etc.
The list is endless to be honest. To say that the Tories are addressing the problems of the Elite is jaw dropping. They are part of this problem.
Also, while I am on my high horse
, we have a PM and Cabinet who, believe and campaigned against Leave not 18 months ago. They expressed their views many times on why Leaving is bad for this country. Now the very same people stand up and say the *exact* opposite and expect the country to believe them!
If they had a shred of honesty they should have resigned, all of them. Power is a seductive mistress so here we are, witnessing a group conversation on the road to Damascus.
Ah, you say, but they are only enacting the mythical "will of the people" and they must put aside they own personal convictions and carry out their sacred duty. Rubbish, I say! You cannot believe a word they utter.
It is the same thing as Monsieur Farage becoming Foreign Secretary in the case of a Remain win and enthusiastically representing the UK Government at the EU summit. No chance ...
Lastly, I am curious, why do you add a derogatory, personal insult when discussing someone you do not agree with?