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RichardCoulter 30-01-2017 16:46
Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
It looks like Sky are going to lose the Discovery channels following a carriage fee dispute.

The following preparations have been made for when the current contract ends on 31/1/17:

4461 11.836 H 27.5 5/6 DVB-S OPSK now showing a caption saying "Unfortunately Sky is not able to bring you this channel as the broadcaster has withdrawn it from the Sky platform".

The EPG info says "Programme is no longer available".

Apparently, Sky pays Discovery to keep Quest off Freesat by encrypting it. Could this news now mean that it will go FTA and join Freesat to extend its reach?

Stephen 30-01-2017 17:21
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Does this really need a separate thread as you posted the same thing in the existing Discovery thread?

RichardCoulter 30-01-2017 18:16
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
I believe that it does as this is a forum dedicated to Freesat/Freeview users.

Non Sky Pay TV viewers (including VM where the thread that you refer to is situated) won't be affected and the addition of Quest will be very useful for Freesat viewers.

Chris 30-01-2017 21:02
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
What is Quest?

pip08456 30-01-2017 21:13
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35883102)
Does this really need a separate thread as you posted the same thing in the existing Discovery thread?
I would say no until it is announced that Quest is actually moving to freesat.

Just my POV though.

nodrogd 30-01-2017 21:59
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Quest is currently using a Pan-European beam (Astra 2E). If it were to go unencrypted there may be rights issues involved.

RichardCoulter 30-01-2017 22:28
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35883143)
What is Quest?
It's a channel on Freeview that's owned by Discovery and shows a back catalogue of their previous pay TV material.

Sky have thus far kept it off Freesat by paying Discovery to encrypt it (AFAIK they do this with Dave too).

Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35883147)
I would say no until it is announced that Quest is actually moving to freesat.

Just my POV though.
I think it's ok to speculate on the possible outcomes of the current Sky V Discovery carriage dispute and how the outcome may benefit Freesat viewers.

I have a suspicion that UKTV weren't satisfied with their carriage renewal offer and only agreed to the price if Sky let them put Yesterday, Drama and Really onto Freesat and Home onto Freeview.

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35883180)
Quest is currently using a Pan-European beam (Astra 2E). If it were to go unencrypted there may be rights issues involved.
I didn't realise that it wasn't on a spot beam transponder.

I wonder if rights issues would be ok since Discovery make most (all?) of their own programming??

Also, they have been testing two channels off the EPG. These are currently showing time shifts of Discovery Shed and Discovery Home & Health.

I'm not sure if these are spot beam transponders, if they are maybe the purpose of these is to accommodate Quest and another channel??

nashville 30-01-2017 23:08
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
I miss Freesat 516" Keltic Country , I hope this can be resolved, Please keep me informed if anyone knows if it will be back,

RichardCoulter 31-01-2017 08:41
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Keep It Country say that they will be back shortly after their technical changes are sorted out.

Let's hope that this isn't an excuse for something more ominous as channels in difficulty (in fact all businesses) normally try to keep everything looking fine until the last possible moment.

Chris 31-01-2017 08:45
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35883189)
It's a channel on Freeview that's owned by Discovery and shows a back catalogue of their previous pay TV material.

Sky have thus far kept it off Freesat by paying Discovery to encrypt it (AFAIK they do this with Dave too).



I think it's ok to speculate on the possible outcomes of the current Sky V Discovery carriage dispute and how the outcome may benefit Freesat viewers.

I have a suspicion that UKTV weren't satisfied with their carriage renewal offer and only agreed to the price if Sky let them put Yesterday, Drama and Really onto Freesat and Home onto Freeview.

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I didn't realise that it wasn't on a spot beam transponder.

I wonder if rights issues would be ok since Discovery make most (all?) of their own programming??

Also, they have been testing two channels off the EPG. These are currently showing time shifts of Discovery Shed and Discovery Home & Health.

I'm not sure if these are spot beam transponders, if they are maybe the purpose of these is to accommodate Quest and another channel??
Decent spot beam capacity is still relatively novel to the UK. Certainly it is recent enough that many broadcasters, last time they negotiated carriage, didn't have it as an option, and were more or less compelled to use a pan-European beam with Sky's encryption even if they intended to be FTV.

As more and more old contracts come up for renewal we should, hopefully, slowly see more channels going fully FTA.

nodrogd 31-01-2017 10:34
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35883189)
I'm not sure if these are spot beam transponders, if they are maybe the purpose of these is to accommodate Quest and another channel??
Astra 2G is the spot beam, & even this has overflow into the near continent.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35883252)
Keep It Country say that they will be back shortly after their technical changes are sorted out.

Let's hope that this isn't an excuse for something more ominous as channels in difficulty (in fact all businesses) normally try to keep everything looking fine until the last possible moment.
KIC were operating without a backup provider, probably due to the initial setup costs. Channels change providers all the time but it is never usually noticed at the customers end as the backup is used during changeover.

nashville 31-01-2017 11:51
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Thanks for the update on Keep it country, Hope it is sorted soon

nodrogd 31-01-2017 17:44
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35883294)
Thanks for the update on Keep it country, Hope it is sorted soon
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...55&postcount=4

RichardCoulter 01-02-2017 01:19
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Well, a deal has been settled upon which appears to involve Sky paying the lower carriage costs that they wanted.

In essence, I still think that there is a reasonable chance that Quest could join Freesat, if not more eg DMAX, Discovery Shed etc.

Finally, as part of their contingency plans, Sky threw some money at PBS America to make some documentary programmes, which Sky, Freesat and Virgin Media customers will all be able to enjoy, so Freesat viewers have definitely got something out of this :D

nashville 01-02-2017 13:47
Re: Could Quest be coming to Freesat?
 
Never heard of the Quest Station


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