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roughbeast 30-09-2017 18:58

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35918478)
I have never seen a problem on my Hub3 even though the TBB graph looks bad.

Me neither.

Paul 01-10-2017 14:32

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35918512)
Comhem in Sweden are selling a gigabit down, a hundred Mb up on it with reasonable results.

That's a nice connection. :)

I'd just like 10:1 on all the tiers they do now, then I'd upgrade to 350/35.

Ignitionnet 01-10-2017 19:39

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35918626)
That's a nice connection. :)

I'd just like 10:1 on all the tiers they do now, then I'd upgrade to 350/35.

I'm sure they'd welcome some feedback on that. Increased upstream capacity and the higher speeds that would allow are well behind and no idea why. :mad:

Kushan 01-10-2017 20:40

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35918489)
So a Hub 4 will be a DOCSIS 3.1 device, will cost VM somewhat more than the current Hubs and should, in theory, only be released to customers on 3.1 tiers as the supply will initially be limited.

That said, I'm sure the retentions teams will hand them out like sweets as soon as they arrive in stock. :)

Obviously when a new device comes out it's usually reserved for the top tiers, but I thought part of the plan for rolling out 3.1 was to roll out the CPE's first?

Ignitionnet 01-10-2017 23:29

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35918684)
Obviously when a new device comes out it's usually reserved for the top tiers, but I thought part of the plan for rolling out 3.1 was to roll out the CPE's first?

Plans are fluid. I haven't a clue what the 3.1 rollout plans are but from what I've heard no CPE until products are ordered due to the cost difference.

A 3.1 modem is a high spec 3.0 modem that can handle 32x8 SC-QAMs with a bigger spectrum range, sometimes a switchable range, and 3.1 capabilities attached, so more costly.

No tiers requiring more than the capability of the Hub 3 to be released any time soon and due to upcoming advertising changes VM have gone hard on capacity in the 3.0 network, some areas thanks to new kit, cards or whatever have 28 channels, so they didn't stop at 24 after all, removing the need to offload 3.0 customers onto 3.1 for capacity relief for a while.

pip08456 01-10-2017 23:42

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
Surely if 3.0 is capable of 1Gb/100Mb then the need for 3.1 is greatly reduced especially with 28 channels being made available.

As a matter of interest how many channels are used for the 1Gb/100Mb sevice?

Ignitionnet 02-10-2017 10:57

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35918703)
Surely if 3.0 is capable of 1Gb/100Mb then the need for 3.1 is greatly reduced especially with 28 channels being made available.

As a matter of interest how many channels are used for the 1Gb/100Mb sevice?

The modem I saw was 28 x 256QAM down, 6 x 64QAM up, so ~1.4 Gb/s down, 153 Mb/s up. VM will not be deploying such a product over 3.0, their service groups have too many devices on them, the fibre isn't deep enough, to make it viable, and the SH3's 24 bonded channels downstream inadequate.

pip08456 02-10-2017 13:29

Re: Any news on the superhub 3 latency fix?
 
Interesting. So if I've got this right. 3.0 up to max 500Mb for the foreseeable until Openreach increase the FTTP footprint on a large scale.

Before that the 3.1 infrastructure will already be deployed ready for a switch to 3.1 to compete. Basically just a matter of turning on 3.1 and sending out the SH4 to those who wish to upgrade.

Is that about it?


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