Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 

Yep, even sounds like bullying. But you know what? I just suck it up.

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Because people with Aspergers aren't unintelligent, they are usually, at worst, of average intelligence and, at best, more intelligent than the general population- it's the lack of social skills that's the main problem.

I can see that you're becoming upset, so let's leave it there. Take care :)

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I don't see Russ getting upset.

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Using the term 'normal' for a non disabled person suggests that you view disabled people as 'abnormal'. Interesting.

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He's not capable of upsetting Russ but when you're in a big hole it's best to stop digging, the way out isn't digging more

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Or that they are different from the norm rather than abnormal, it's easy to find offence everywhere if you look hard enough and the look even harder till you spot it

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No no, you don’t get away that easily. If I have problems with social skills how am I able to converse with these highly influential and intelligent people on a daily basis? A very common route in Legal process is winning people over to your side of the argument - it’s how we win cases. So please do tell me, I’m itching to know your expert opinion about this.

Honestly, there’s no shaming in saying “Sorry, I was wrong”.

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No it really doesn't Richard. But I guess you don't want to answer the question.

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Any chance we can stick to the topic, stop it with the provocative character assassination tones or this thread will close.

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The Digital, Media, Culture and Sport committee has today accused facebook of deliberately and intentionally violated privacy & anti competition laws:

https://www.parliament.uk/business/c...blished-17-19/

Amongst other things eg fake news, they have called for a compulsory code of ethics overseen by a regulator and for websites to be obliged to take down 'harmful' content. They also want the regulator to be given legal powers to take action against those in breach of the code.

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"harmful" as decided by who exactly ?

Just another colossal waste of money to create a huge bureaucracy that will not really achieve anything useful.

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It'll be things like bullying/trolling, guides to help people make bombs, commit suicide etc. Also, scamming and grooming by paedophiles. The issue seems to be that some sites are taking too long to take things down (if at all). I assume the exact details will be thrashed out by the Government and the regulator.

Why don't you think it'll achieve anything Paul? Even if it only covers the 10% of the internet available to most people, I think it will have a massive impact.

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The Metropolitan Police have now started including online bullying/trolling in their online report form:

https://www.met.police.uk/ro/report/...eport-a-crime/

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We need to do something.

We haven't needed to do anything like this in the past because while paedophiles, terrorists and all sorts of bad people have existed as long as humans have, modern technology has made it easy for those people to communicate with each other and potential victims. Frequently using methods that cannot easily be monitored by other people who can help. Take bullying. When you and I were kids, any bullies would be able to upset their victims by insulting them and making them look bad in front of their friends (or any group). They may have been able to do so in or out of school, in the local town or where-ever the person hung out. Once the bullying was sorted out, there would likely be little physical evidence it had every occured and the victim could get on with their life.

Now, Bullies have access to all the previous physical locations they used to bully victims. They can also bully the victim on many social media websites (facebook, twitter, thousands of forums etc), the evidence may well be publicly available and, unless the websites can be persuaded to delete the evidence, it will stay for years, possibly even coming up in any social media searches done by prospective employers (which, for the record, is something I don't like, but happens).

Also, insulting people based on their gender, race, any disabilities, and a whole range of other reasons is already illegal, but what can the authorities in this country do if the poster refuses to delete the offensive content, the site is hosted abroad and the owner of the site refuses to do anything? I believe the changes in the law are designed to help get something done. Let's face it, Google, Facebook and Twitter can make it very difficult to get content deleted even if includes beheadings.

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Totally agree with you Stuart, something has to be done as it's now getting way out of hand.

Facebook have, up until now, sought to justify refusing to take down innapropriate posts on the grounds of free speech, but now appear to be taking matters more seriously. In the past they refused to take down hate speech against a wheelchair user, but Tommy Robinson has now had his Facebook and Instagram accounts closed due to 'violating community standards':

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47371290

He is now officially barred from the platform due to hate speech. Facebook made it clear that they would not tolerate an environment of intimidation and exclusion towards minority groups. In addition, PayPal & YouTube are refusing to do business with him.

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That'll be about 85% of facebook and twitter accounts gone in the next 6 months then . . if the bosses stick to their word :rolleyes: