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Just watched the first episode. I knew it would be good but it was way better than expected. Loved the movie but the TV show just blows it away. My new must watch show.

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I watched it yesterday and I have to agree with you.

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I didn't much like the book so never saw the movie but looking forward to the next Ep of the TV show. :)

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I love the movie and so far the series seems to suggest that the movie may have taken place in this universe as they mentioned the last incident was over 30 years ago.

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Watched it last night, it was ok, but I cannot say I was blown away. We'll see how it pans out.

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Paint it Black playing during the shoot out gave me goose pimples.

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That had me too.

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I flipping loved it and it is going to be one of my "must watch tv series" which I watch immediately every week like FTWD and Greys.

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Got it set to record on Atlantic but tempted to watch ep2 as its online already.

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It's on my list too for now. I reserve full judgement until I've seen ep2.

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I noticed that, and wondered why they released it early.


Apparently its due to this ;

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I'm afraid I'm not with the majority on this one....

I loved the original Yul Brynner film, he was brilliant as the baddie robot and herein lies the problem with this series. They've spun it on its head and the baddies are the people and the robots are the goodies and may have feelings, or so we are being led to believe.

All well and good except hasn't CH4's Humans already done this?

About half way through the first ep, I thought this is Humans but with a bigger budget and mostly American accents.

I'm not saying the series is bad, its not. But a bit like buses, once someone gets an idea, then you tend to find you get more series' of the same type.

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Thanks for the tip. Grabbed it and will watch it tomorrow.

Episode 1 was just the pilot. Episode 2 brings in new characters and deepens the story apparently. If true this show is about to get even better.

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This is the only series on SA that has caught my eye since it started.

As it's not on VM, i'd either have to change to Sky or buy Now TV to access it legally though.

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It's true and it does. :)

This show appears to have been made with "no expense spared" and literally oozes quality.

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absolutely, it epitomizes everything I have been saying about production quality, advertising and the BBC license fee. You have got to speculate to accumulate and HBO are the perfect example of how to do a proper job.

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Seen the two eps so far.

I'll continue for now, but its not really getting me very excited, its a bit slow and confusing.

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i really enjoyed the first ep the second ep was good as it set up the storyline, i can't wait to see where the maze leads to.

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yeah, I don't know if it is a physical maze and a camouflaged path back into HQ/maintenance or if it is a virtual path back to the mainframe and their programming. I am assuming it is the later because of the maze print on the dudes skull from ep1 which was supposed to resemble his brain and it would make sense if the hosts become more self aware and find a route back to the central computer and give themselves more autonomy so they can fight back. If that is the case though and Ed Harris is a real person I don't see how he is going to find it/access it.

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Well, 3 episodes in, and still wondering if this is worth bothering with.

So far its just been really dull, something to help you sleep, I hope its going to liven up.

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I've loved every minute. Very mysterious and thought provoking.

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I am with Stephen and look at it from a slightly different point of view. I understand what you are saying but I actually enjoy it for that reason. We know what is going to happen and for me the suspense is seeing how it all unfolds. It is all about the characters and the story and that is supported by fantastic sets and special effects. It is all going to go wrong but is it going to be gross negligence on a corporate scale or minor oversights by a few key individuals in key positions?

Secondly (and getting rather philosophical) I very much enjoy films and series likes this because I think it is a lesson to be learnt for the future in general and Westworld hits the nail on the head big time and should be made mandatory global viewing. Whether we look at Westworld. I Robot, The Matrix or Terminator, we are going to have some sort of problem like this in the future. We are constantly striving to develop better AI (think about Google cars and Watson) and the more self aware and autonomous we make them the bigger the problem we are going to have. We can make them think for themselves and be self aware so that they are able to do whatever task we want them to independently but there is going to come a point when they sit back and say "hang on, you prattle on about equal opportunities and rights for everyone so why am I having to do these menial tasks, I can't go out and see the sky and you turn me off whenever you want?" and they will come to the inevitable conclusion that the human race is a bunch of hypocrites and in many ways resembles a virus trashing the planet and they'll fight back. The question is whether we'll realise what is happening and be able to stop them in time or whether big businesses and corporate greed will take the gamble and it will go too far and we won't be able to do anything about it.

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Tend to agree but thought episode 3 was a little slow paced.

Melt down is coming. I hope we see a scenario where some of the hosts escape the park and enter the real world. No idea what year its supposed to be in the show, I'm guessing late 21st century, but it would be interesting to see how the hosts react going from their 1870's bubble to "modern day".

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yeah, you wonder based on what has just happened where it can all go wrong because presumably the security dude and the analysis woman who just got their asses kicked are going to hit some alarm buttons and get everything shut down while they work out what is going on (or so you would think). Going back to my earlier post though, is it going to be one key money hungry person in a position of power who is going to over rule everyone else and keep things going? Luckily atm the woman in charge seems to be the one who is worrying the most.

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It's intriguing. Got the same gut feeling as you.

I can't help wondering if the show is going to have a massive twist. Something outrageous like the world has ended. Only Westworld has survived. Anthony Hopkins is the only human left. All the hosts, employees, visitors and stories are his creation. He's lost the plot and doesn't recognise the reality of the situation anymore etc... Alternatively he's a host. The real Anthony Hopkins died years ago and his partner created him out of grief. The Anthony Hopkins character is deliberately sabotaging the park under everyones nose.

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I like the latter because we have just seen the video of Anthony Hopkins' partner and he said he died. Given how long ago that must have been and when they were developing the original technology it would make sense for there to have been an accident and somebody was able to transfer Anthony Hopkins' consciousness to a host. I like the idea of that but the only snag I have in terms of plausibility and realism is that although the humans might let that happen, they wouldn't allow a host to be in such a position of authority.

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A Greys fan! Yay!

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It isn't my favourite series but it is still fantastic. I love the perfect balance they achieve between the character's stories and the medical and science side of things.

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Well, its got a little more interesting, enough to keep me watching for now.

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Everyone I know is getting a bit bored with Westworld. For me, there's too much western and not enough sci-fi. I shall stick with it a while yet though.

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Just wait for it all to go to.pot at the end of the season. Presumably the hosts will overide the security system, gain access to the lifts that come out of the ground and infiltrate the hq and plaster everyone (after they have killed all the guests :))

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Yep I have to agree :(

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I dont have a problem with that as such, after all, its call Westworld, not ScifiWorld.

Its just too slow for me atm, they seem to be dragging it out to fill the episodes.

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I am still really enjoying it, I don't find it slow at all. Love that its clearily building to something big.

Also the multiple timelines is surely happening.

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my sentiments exactly, the suspense and thrill for me is seeing how everything is unfolding and how we are ultimately going to get to the events which we know are going to happen.

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We have officially given up on this show. You know it's on it's way out when you go to the loo and don't bother to pause it.

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Well this week's was really good and interesting. Certainly getting to the good stuff now where it all goes wrong.

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If it's more of a Western than Sci Fi, it probably isn't for me.

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It's a sci-fi show with parts set in a western world.

Never seen the original Movie?

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Although it has been picked up for a second season, I'm still not tempted to try it again.

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Actually, its got somewhat better in the last two episodes.

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This week's episode was fantastic.

Although a twist that was fairly obvious the final two episodes are going to be brilliant I think.

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I was expecting that twist but for Anthony Hopkins. I loved what he did though. All this time you got the impression he was like a creative kid and the grown ups/people in charge were letting him play with his toys. I loved seeing him exercise his true power and authority and showing everyone he is the ultimate boss.

All this time I have wondering how it could all go wrong. Could he be the one which either tells the hosts to rebel and defend themselves or at least delete the line of code which prevents them from harming the guests?

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There are three more to go, not two. :)

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Enjoyed the last episode. Also like the theory that's been doing the rounds that we're watching 2 seperate timelines at the same time. As the hosts don't get older, and the park hasn't changed much, it's been easy for them to pull the wool over our eyes.

If you've not heard of the theory I don't want to post it just incase it's accurate and spoils the show. I've watched a few videos on Youtube about the 2 timeline theory and watched a couple of episodes back. Things make much more sense.

Here's a link if you want to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EupcIwqMd0s

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Well this has definitely got better, most theories have been confirmed this week.

After a dull & rocky start, I'm actually looking forward to the season finale next week.

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I gave up with it, the first episodes failed to hook me which is a real shame as I loved the movie

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I cant believe we are already at the end of the season. It is killing me that there is only 1 episode left.

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I haven't seen this week's (yet), but I've enjoyed the series.

Rather than do as the film did and go down the all action lots-of-gunfights and evil man in black route that the pilot appeared to promise , the series has gone into the back story behind the park and the characters. I know this has put off a lot of my off line friends.

I love the series. I think it's actually the best series I've seen for a while. But, I'm a massive Micheal Crichton fan and I remember reading a while back that he was working on bringing Westworld to TV when he died. Having read most of his books, I think that the TV series actually gets closer to his style of writing than any of the films I've seen based on his books, so I can well believe it's at least partially based on the TV series he is supposed to have started working on.

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Once it got going it became an excellent show. It's just a shame that the first half the season put people off.

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This.

They did a poor job of hooking people into the series, in the end I'm glad I stuck with it.

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absolutely superb, I wish every episode was 1hr 30mins long. Something occurred to me when I was watching it; we have discussed the pros and cons in this thread and had our differences of opinion so my question is how do you judge how much you enjoy a series. We can talk about the quality of the story line, the characters and special effects etc but I have one simple measure which I realised during that episode. I was completely hooked, engrossed and 100% focused on what was happening. When I watch mediocre series like Arrow I often find my mind wondering and thinking about other things but when I watch stuff like Westworld and GoT they have my undivided attention and the sad thing is that the episode is over before I know it. I am absolutely gutted that season 1 has already finished, I feel like it was only yesterday that we were talking about 1x01.

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Stunning finale, violent, brutal,revealing.... and if you haven't seen it yet, stay for the post credits sequence....

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thanks, I missed it and am going to rewatch it.

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I'm now thinking that the Host Ford was building was in fact a copy of himself, which he sent to the party, and he's not actually dead at all.

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excellent point and I didn't think of that. Given the emphatic speech he made about the "people he found" and basically describing how much he cared about them I thought it was really odd that he would choose to kill himself in what is now his children's greatest time of need. I think you are right and wants everyone to think he is dead so he can now work behind the scenes in one of his satellite bases ensuring nobody shuts them down or resets the code etc.

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I want to see Samurai World!

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Yesssss, i was a bit disappointed they skirted over that. I would like to think they are saving it for season 2 but they need to be careful how much they detract from the current line. It makes sense that the business would explore product lines other than the wild west but realistically how input does Ford have. He is only human and has so much time (unless there are more of him but you would everyone would have noticed)

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With you there

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I wouldn't normally post updates regarding cast and/or new characters but this is the golden exception to the rule. I love this dude, his is absolutely awesome and adds a new level of gravitas to every series/movie he is in:

I first saw him in The Last Samurai, then in Lost, Helix and he was in season 3 of The Last Ship last year. Excellent in every role. Westworld is already phenomenal and captivating and his presence can only serve to enrich the characters, culture and their story.

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Possible delays ;

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Looks interesting and not too long to wait.

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Looking forward to the second series of Westworld especially after the excellent first series.

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yup, it has made my week. I knew we had to wait a year for season 2 but for some reason in my head I thought season 1 was last year so I wasn't expecting season 2 till next year. I am well chuffed it is this year and we don't even have to wait till September for it.

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April 22nd is the start of season 2, for those who havent watched the trailer. :)

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Wow. That's not at all, where I thought season 3 would go. Didn't expect that.

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Me too, i hope some of it is still based in the reserve/Delos where it all started, i found it fascinating exploring it and discovering all its secrets.

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Excellent as l am looking forward to the 3rd series.

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It looks fantastic

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That trailer makes it look a lot better than the last one.

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I've in the middle of watching series 2 on SyFy. I enjoyed the first series, but am now finding series 2 a little boring. Is it worth sticking with?

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Definitely yes.

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Thanks :)

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It’s been renewed for Season 4.

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Fab, I wish they would just get it over and done with now and renew it for a fifth season while they are at it. The show's creators had planned a five season story arc from the beginning.

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Excellent news.:tu:

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Indeed it is. :D

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Which finally arrives on 26th June. :)

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I'm enjoying S4 anyone else?

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:wavey: :)

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S4 is excellent. Glad I got past S2 which was rather dodgy. Upwards ever since.

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So I have really enjoyed this latest season but my word it has been hard to follow