Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

Any expansion of Gaza would have to come from Egypt. Israel can't be blamed for Gaza's geographical location.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

Israel can absolutely be blamed for it’s location and expansion. They aren’t some passive actor, or a victim of chance, when they seize Palestinian land to give it to Israeli settlers.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

You really know very little about this subject.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

You may find this informative

https://www.britannica.com/place/Gaza-Strip

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

That’s the Israelis onto air strikes on refugee camps taking in the Palestinians fleeing their homes.

I presume the “you must condemn Hamas before you can speak of Israeli war crimes” brigade will be out any minute now to unequivocally condemn this.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

Don't hold your breath. Only actions against Israel seem to have a mandate for condemnation.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

The deliberate targeting of civilians by any military force should be condemned.

I look forward to your condemnation of the same…

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

“Any military force” sounds a bit Corbyny to me.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

Exactly! How about we look around the world and see just how many powder keg situations exist at present that both east, west,north and south are covering their ears and eyes to. How many people on both sides of any of those situations are desperate for those in charge to just shut the f*** up and start to looking at finding ways to make peace.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

What people forget is Israel is an occupying force, . Build settlements in occupied land, which is against international law. Would you fight if England was occupied or just let them get on with the occupation. Reason Britain or usa will not complain of this, is the Jewish vote in both countries.

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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

@noel43

I agree with you but I don't participate in this thread. Chris's thread title is bigoted, no major non-Israeli news organization call Hamas terrorists.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

and yet you just did ... :erm:


Hamas is designated as a terrorist group by the UK [and the EU] as well as the USA.

In fact, by Australia, Canada, European Union, Israel, Japan, Organization of American States, Paraguay, United Kingdom, United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

(The EU and OAS is over 50 countries in total)

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

Well his bias permeates almost every post he makes on the subject you can’t really exempt a thread title. He’s not had much to say about his hypothetical Russian link in the OP, and even less to say about arms from Ukraine turning up in the Middle East.

However it’s important to challenge where people seek to censor opposing thought through their use of language - such as the obligation to criticise Hamas before being permitted to criticise Israel. They’ll criticise opponents for playing the “both sides” card yet are unable (or unwilling) to criticise Israeli actions on their own merit when they are the most egregious breaches of international law and condemned universally by human rights organisations.

Conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism another classic of the genre.

Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages
 

It is possible to criticise both sides - you should try it…

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If that’s your default viewpoint, most things would… ;)